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LOL, samp own us and inter. What next juve getting owned?
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Inter Would Be Fourth Without Refereeing Errors - Study
The table would look quite a bit different if there had been no refereeing mistakes this term, according to one study in Italy...
4 Mar 2009 18:17:12
The refereeing controversy in Italy has flared up again as a result of the recent 3-3 draw between Inter and Roma as well as comments made after the match by a number of interested parties.
According to a survey conducted by Observations on Arbitration Errors, in collaboration with Adiconsum, since the beginning of the 2008-09 campaign, 171 points would have been rearranged due to the 163 officiating mistakes.
The hypothetical rankings have Milan at the top of the standings with 53 points, plus five from their current tally, while the Fiorentina, would be in second spot with 51.
Meanwhile, Juventus would fall one place into third, having benefited from a few refereeing decisions this term and Inter would lose a rather significant 11 points from their current status, dropping down to fourth place.
Of course, this is just one study with it's own limitations, but certainly it's findings will fuel the criticism of the officiating throughout the peninsula.
The table would look quite a bit different if there had been no refereeing mistakes this term, according to one study in Italy...
4 Mar 2009 18:17:12
The refereeing controversy in Italy has flared up again as a result of the recent 3-3 draw between Inter and Roma as well as comments made after the match by a number of interested parties.
According to a survey conducted by Observations on Arbitration Errors, in collaboration with Adiconsum, since the beginning of the 2008-09 campaign, 171 points would have been rearranged due to the 163 officiating mistakes.
The hypothetical rankings have Milan at the top of the standings with 53 points, plus five from their current tally, while the Fiorentina, would be in second spot with 51.
Meanwhile, Juventus would fall one place into third, having benefited from a few refereeing decisions this term and Inter would lose a rather significant 11 points from their current status, dropping down to fourth place.
Of course, this is just one study with it's own limitations, but certainly it's findings will fuel the criticism of the officiating throughout the peninsula.
Reffing Errors in Italy - goal.com
I don't like things like this, it's impossible to say. Errors are made all the time, even something as simple as a throw-in given the wrong way will completely change the rest of a game, same goes for free-kicks given/not given. Impossible I tells ya.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 5 2009, 07:43 PM) 
I don't like things like this, it's impossible to say. Errors are made all the time, even something as simple as a throw-in given the wrong way will completely change the rest of a game, same goes for free-kicks given/not given. Impossible I tells ya.
Agreed, it'd be much easier to just dump Inter down into Serie B and be rid of the source of the problem at once.
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 5 2009, 06:38 PM)
ohh hooo carlo and gallaini got a new excuse
I don't think it's completely an invalid excuse. 
Maybe I wouldn't go so far as to say Inter must be fourth. But I will insist their lead wouldn't be so huge as it is now, if everyone got the same treatment.
Maybe I wouldn't go so far as to say Inter must be fourth. But I will insist their lead wouldn't be so huge as it is now, if everyone got the same treatment.
Three games tomorow !
Stadio: Olimpico
Kick off CET:15:00 AS Roma - Udinese
Roma lost the last game they played against Udinese away at the Stadio Friuli the score was 3-1
Channel 4 Preview link
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Stadio: Luigi Ferraris
Kick off CET:17:00 Genoa - inter
Genoa drew there last game 0-0 against inter away at the San Siro ( same again please or even better win
)
Channel 4 Priview link
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Stadio: Stadio Olimpico di Torino
Kick off CET:19:30 Torino - juventus
Torino lost there last game against juventus away at the Stadio Olimpico di Torino.
Channel 4 Preview link
Stadio: Olimpico
Kick off CET:15:00 AS Roma - Udinese
Roma lost the last game they played against Udinese away at the Stadio Friuli the score was 3-1
Channel 4 Preview link
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Stadio: Luigi Ferraris
Kick off CET:17:00 Genoa - inter
Genoa drew there last game 0-0 against inter away at the San Siro ( same again please or even better win
)Channel 4 Priview link
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Stadio: Stadio Olimpico di Torino
Kick off CET:19:30 Torino - juventus
Torino lost there last game against juventus away at the Stadio Olimpico di Torino.
Channel 4 Preview link
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Inter Would Be Fourth Without Refereeing Errors - Study
This is the second time in three seasons that this issue has come up. Both instances, interestingly enough, Milan were out of the Scudetto race and mired in a double-digit points deficit to Inter.
Thing is, Miz, the article appeared in a Rome paper, not a Milan paper. Milan aren't leading the charge of 'Inter's getting reffing favors' this time.
EDIT: Actually, Channel 4 put it more nicely than I did.
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Milan veteran Paolo Maldini refuses to enter the Jose Mourinho controversy but comments “for every trophy he has lifted, I have won five.”
Mourinho has caused outrage in the peninsula with disparaging comments at the expense of Milan, Roma and Juventus.
“I don't really want to prolong this exchange of insults,” Maldini said in La Gazzetta dello Sport.
“After all, it seems like Mourinho was harsher towards Juventus. But I just want to say that it doesn't work well for him when we look at trophies won.
“As far as I am concerned, during my years at Milan for every trophy he has lifted I have won five."
Mourinho has caused outrage in the peninsula with disparaging comments at the expense of Milan, Roma and Juventus.
“I don't really want to prolong this exchange of insults,” Maldini said in La Gazzetta dello Sport.
“After all, it seems like Mourinho was harsher towards Juventus. But I just want to say that it doesn't work well for him when we look at trophies won.
“As far as I am concerned, during my years at Milan for every trophy he has lifted I have won five."
This is just another case of the media putting words in people's mouths. I hope Mou is smart enough to realise that if he responds to this, by insulting Maldini there will be hell to pay. Maldini is a national treasure and the papers would tear into him for it.
Sacchi's on Mou's side so it's not like Mou's all alone. I just think Jose should realise that Italy's got a different culture, and you don't go around calling people out. His team is doing well, why doesn't he just leave his talking on the field.
He started this feud with the media anyway. They liked him till he did the Ranieri - 'old man' stunt. Also when he refused to attend the media briefing saying this is how it's done in England.
Sacchi's on Mou's side so it's not like Mou's all alone. I just think Jose should realise that Italy's got a different culture, and you don't go around calling people out. His team is doing well, why doesn't he just leave his talking on the field.
He started this feud with the media anyway. They liked him till he did the Ranieri - 'old man' stunt. Also when he refused to attend the media briefing saying this is how it's done in England.
I don't believe this is Maldini's exact words. He would not say something like this that way, if at all!
Actually, dst, they are. Here's a link to the gazzetta article. link
Is this from an interview to Gazzetta?
Yep.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 6 2009, 05:25 PM)
Yep.
Well... he's God... I will blindly follow him!
Hmh, God and Devil...
QUOTE (Maldini)
“[For] every trophy he has lifted, I have won five.”
Gold.
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 6 2009, 07:53 AM)
Well... he's God... I will blindly follow him!
*sings Little Peggy March's "I Will Follow Him"
Tardelli: Mou's no Mancini... Saturday 7 March, 2009
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Republic of Ireland assistant manager Marco Tardelli slammed Jose Mourinho, as “Inter played better under Roberto Mancini.”
Jose Mourinho has dominated headlines over the last week for his outlandish statements and disappointing performances against Roma and Sampdoria.
“It’s nothing new. This is a Coach who, generally, takes it out on someone if things go wrong,” said Tardelli in the Gazzetta dello Sport.
“In this case he’s not the problem, it’s the media. I’ve never seen so much grovelling to a Coach before. Perhaps now a few people are starting to change their tune.
“Mourinho is very intelligent and knows how to sell himself, but he’s wrong in the way he acts. [Giovanni] Trapattoni never attacked a colleague.”
It’s not just the Press conferences that irritated former Inter boss Tardelli, as the performances haven’t impressed him either.
“They played better under Mancini, but who can say Mourinho doesn’t get results? I think he has a good chance of going through to the next round of the Champions League.
“Manchester United may have wasted a great opportunity at San Siro and it will be different at Old Trafford. I’ve give it 50-50.”
Tardelli represented Juventus for many years and is keeping an eye on the other Italian contenders in Europe.
“Juve didn’t take enough risks against Chelsea. They deserved a draw and have the mentality to go through, although they are missing a creative force in midfield.
“Roma deserved to beat Inter on Sunday and it’s a shame [Francesco] Totti has such a huge impact, both in a good and a bad way, on the rest of the team. [Marco] Motta has been an excellent signing.”
Tardelli and Trapattoni come face to face with Marcello Lippi’s Italy on April 1 for a World Cup qualifier.
Amauri’s wife has just taken Italian citizenship, so the striker is a step closer to becoming an Azzurri star.
“I would leave him to Brazil. We will play with our heads held high.”
channel 4.com
That is in so many words exactly how I feel.
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Republic of Ireland assistant manager Marco Tardelli slammed Jose Mourinho, as “Inter played better under Roberto Mancini.”
Jose Mourinho has dominated headlines over the last week for his outlandish statements and disappointing performances against Roma and Sampdoria.
“It’s nothing new. This is a Coach who, generally, takes it out on someone if things go wrong,” said Tardelli in the Gazzetta dello Sport.
“In this case he’s not the problem, it’s the media. I’ve never seen so much grovelling to a Coach before. Perhaps now a few people are starting to change their tune.
“Mourinho is very intelligent and knows how to sell himself, but he’s wrong in the way he acts. [Giovanni] Trapattoni never attacked a colleague.”
It’s not just the Press conferences that irritated former Inter boss Tardelli, as the performances haven’t impressed him either.
“They played better under Mancini, but who can say Mourinho doesn’t get results? I think he has a good chance of going through to the next round of the Champions League.
“Manchester United may have wasted a great opportunity at San Siro and it will be different at Old Trafford. I’ve give it 50-50.”
Tardelli represented Juventus for many years and is keeping an eye on the other Italian contenders in Europe.
“Juve didn’t take enough risks against Chelsea. They deserved a draw and have the mentality to go through, although they are missing a creative force in midfield.
“Roma deserved to beat Inter on Sunday and it’s a shame [Francesco] Totti has such a huge impact, both in a good and a bad way, on the rest of the team. [Marco] Motta has been an excellent signing.”
Tardelli and Trapattoni come face to face with Marcello Lippi’s Italy on April 1 for a World Cup qualifier.
Amauri’s wife has just taken Italian citizenship, so the striker is a step closer to becoming an Azzurri star.
“I would leave him to Brazil. We will play with our heads held high.”
channel 4.com
That is in so many words exactly how I feel.
AS Roma 1 : 1 Udinese
54' Felipe Dias Dal Belo scored for Udinese
61' Mirko Vucinic scored for Roma
68' Daniele De Rossi red carded
54' Felipe Dias Dal Belo scored for Udinese
61' Mirko Vucinic scored for Roma
68' Daniele De Rossi red carded
So there are 3 games in Serie A today. Two have already taken place.
Roma 1 -1 Udinese, as R4an mentions above.
Genoa 0 - 2 cugini. Doubts as to whether the goal crossed the line on one goal and a really nasty foul by Balotelli on Sculli that wasn't called.
Roma 1 -1 Udinese, as R4an mentions above.
Genoa 0 - 2 cugini. Doubts as to whether the goal crossed the line on one goal and a really nasty foul by Balotelli on Sculli that wasn't called.
Today's third game is the Turin derby (Toro are the deisgnated home team).
It's scoreless in the 14th. So far it's been a pretty even game, with both sides having chances. I think Toro's have been slightly better.
It's scoreless in the 14th. So far it's been a pretty even game, with both sides having chances. I think Toro's have been slightly better.
If the media didn't overreact to everything Mourinho said, maybe he'd shut up for five minutes. They're as responsible as he is for any "controversy" that ensues over whatever he says.
So the Gobbi won the derby. Chiellini goal in the 81st. Even so, Toro's Matteo Sereni was probably man of the match. He was amazing.
What did De Rossi do to get sent off? I notice he gained his first yellow card in the 68th minute, then was also sent off in the 68th minute.
He got the second for protest, Kurt. I was making coffee at the time so just heard the commentary. didn't see exactly what happened.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 7 2009, 09:08 PM)
He got the second for protest, Kurt.
In other words, two technicals and he's out.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 7 2009, 11:48 PM)
So the Gobbi won the derby. Chiellini goal in the 81st. Even so, Toro's Matteo Sereni was probably man of the match. He was amazing.
I said that before!
he deserves to be the third choice GK for national team.
Is that the same Sereni that played for Ipswich? 
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 8 2009, 06:58 PM)
Is that the same Sereni that played for Ipswich?
Yes. If he was bad when he did it's probably because most Italians cannot function without their mama's pasta!
^^ Re Sereni: He was given a rating of 8 for the game, even though he conceded that goal. That's how good he was.
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 8 2009, 05:01 PM)
Yes. If he was bad when he did it's probably because most Italians cannot function without their mama's pasta!
He wasn't bad at all actually, I just thought he was very old when he went to Ipswich so I thought he'd be retired now!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 8 2009, 07:06 PM)
He wasn't bad at all actually, I just thought he was very old when he went to Ipswich so I thought he'd be retired now!
Ah alright. He turned 34 last month.
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 8 2009, 05:09 PM)
Ah alright. He turned 34 last month.
Nowhere near as old as I thought, in fact he'd have only been in his late 20s at Ipswich. He must look bad for his age!
So, Bari are back in first place in Serie B. They won today's game against 4th place Sassuolo 3-1 and are two points clear of Livorno, who drew yesterday and 4 points clear of Parma, who also drew. Triestina have moved up to fifth and Brescia are in sixth.
Young Alberto did NOT start for Parma this week (came on fairly early in the second half).
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 9 2009, 12:21 AM)
So, Bari are back in first place in Serie B. They won today's game against 4th place Sassuolo 3-1 and are two points clear of Livorno, who drew yesterday and 4 points clear of Parma, who also drew. Triestina have moved up to fifth and Brescia are in sixth.
Young Alberto did NOT start for Parma this week (came on fairly early in the second half).
Am I very wrong if I say you have the same relationship to Bari as I have to Chievo?
Haha. To an extent, yes. I just have a soft spot Bari. I've got friends there and I really like the big banner (see above). There's also the fact that Serie B is really interesting this year. The leadership changes almost every week and right now any one of 6 teams could win the league.
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Injury note: Season is over for Napoli's Maggio and Gargano. Maggio has a torn ACL and Gargano has broken metartarsals. The Gobbi's Sissoko is also out for the season with a broken foot.
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Injury note: Season is over for Napoli's Maggio and Gargano. Maggio has a torn ACL and Gargano has broken metartarsals. The Gobbi's Sissoko is also out for the season with a broken foot.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 9 2009, 10:03 PM)
Injury note: Season is over for Napoli's Maggio and Gargano. Maggio has a torn ACL and Gargano has broken metartarsals. The Gobbi's Sissoko is also out for the season with a broken foot.
BAH!
Things keep getting better and better for Napoli...
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 9 2009, 11:33 AM)
Haha. To an extent, yes. I just have a soft spot Bari. I've got friends there and I really like the big banner (see above). There's also the fact that Serie B is really interesting this year. The leadership changes almost every week and right now any one of 6 teams could win the league.
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Injury note: Season is over for Napoli's Maggio and Gargano. Maggio has a torn ACL and Gargano has broken metartarsals. The Gobbi's Sissoko is also out for the season with a broken foot.
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Injury note: Season is over for Napoli's Maggio and Gargano. Maggio has a torn ACL and Gargano has broken metartarsals. The Gobbi's Sissoko is also out for the season with a broken foot.
thats wonderful news. Best news i've heard all day.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Mar 9 2009, 05:24 PM)
Am I very wrong if I say you have the same relationship to Bari as I have to Chievo?
ur flying donkey seems to have a flying shlong as well
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 9 2009, 07:08 PM)
thats wonderful news. Best news i've heard all day.
Yeah, now Inter's road to the Scudetto will be even easier. Wonderful.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Mar 9 2009, 08:07 PM)
Yeah, now Inter's road to the Scudetto will be even easier. Wonderful.
Ahhh and arrghhh...terrorista internazionale...
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Mar 9 2009, 01:07 PM)
Yeah, now Inter's road to the Scudetto will be even easier. Wonderful.
I could care less about where inter finish. Its great news because when we play them, he will not be there. Thats a huge bonus. Getting champions league is all that matters and if half of juve were injured, i'd still celebrate it.
I'm not sure I'd celebrate even a cugini player's injury. Maybe if their coach got long-term laryngitis...but anyway.
Sissoko's absence may not necessarily be a good thing for opponents - the place will probably fall then to Marchisio and he's not exactly playing badly right now.
(PS: Locke, my Fierce Rooster could beat your Flying Donkey.)
Sissoko's absence may not necessarily be a good thing for opponents - the place will probably fall then to Marchisio and he's not exactly playing badly right now.
(PS: Locke, my Fierce Rooster could beat your Flying Donkey.)
Juve? We still have to play them at San Siro..
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 9 2009, 09:07 PM)
(PS: Locke, my Fierce Rooster could beat your Flying Donkey.)
I'm afraid not.
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Mar 9 2009, 08:23 PM)
I'm afraid not.
i do like you Locke but anymore of that and your donkey will be like a stuffed one they sell in spain!!!
QUOTE (mishie @ Mar 9 2009, 09:28 PM)
i do like you Locke but anymore of that and your donkey will be like a stuffed one they sell in spain!!!
What? Are you on the chicken side as well??? Donkeys, ATTACK!!!
Result:
[quote name='Locke Lamora' date='Mar 9 2009, 08:32 PM' post='202100']
What? Are you on the chicken side as well??? Donkeys, ATTACK!!!
i introduced Tennie to the world of donkey killing chickens!
prepare for war!
What? Are you on the chicken side as well??? Donkeys, ATTACK!!!
i introduced Tennie to the world of donkey killing chickens!
prepare for war!
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