Yo ACID i just wanna clarify something..I'm a dude bruh...Ma full name's Galando Kenny...Had 2 short d name...But tis all good..Tis ma bad if it sounded like Gal (oh sh***...it did..tis ma bad though)..

Overall..Shevchenko will be useful to us..In times of injury Shev can be counted on..He's still a world class player..However, we must realise that he did wat he did for his family and his kids...I'm sure if ya'll were in his position u would've considered it..Just as some of ya'll are saying milan should take the $102 mil for Kaka..Kaka isn't in Shevy's condition when shevy was to be bought by chelsea...I'm pretty sure if sheva scores every goal every game he plays (if he came) we'll say Shevy still had it and will probably forget bout what he did..People move on and that's life..I ain't tryna pick up a fight or wat not but i'm saying he did wat he had 2 do..

Haha true. I would class the white Ronaldo up there at the moment and think he could become the new iconic footballer of this generation, taking over from Zidane/#9 Ronaldo. I think the fact he plays and has made his trade in England people dislike him globally, actually I have not a doubt in my mind about that. Yes he is a little arrogant but so are many, if he went to Madrid from Sporting far more people would like him.

The problem with that analogy is many people know of Beckham doesn't mean he's any good though, although I do get what you are saying about the World Cup's.

To get back to possible transfer targets for Milan, I'm now watching a replay of the England-Czech Republic game (what a lovely goal, Janku! ). Possible Milan target Kovac is the #5 in the game and played just in front of the defense, though the commentators noted his natural position is in defense. He played the full 90 and...well, he was half decent. Is he Nesta v2? No. But he might do if needed.

Saw Kovac play. He did what he was supposed to do. More than can be said for the English NT. But don't think of him as a viable option to threaten Kaladze or even Bonera.

Sheva? Let him come. Paolo once said, he's welcome back. I can't question that. One must allow Berlusconi his idiosyncracies.

Besides it makes logical sense. Carletto came out twice and said, Pato should not be considered our lead striker. He said, he's a kid with prodigious talent, who can really develop. But should not be overused. If Sheva doesn't come, that's exactly what's gonna happen. Besides Carletto finds Pato in the same mould as Sheva, and Pato's training will go up in leaps and bounds. Currently he has no one similar to him to learn from. While Marco and Palo have Pippo. The Uruguys have a host of mid-fielders to learn from. Darmian has Nesta. And Abbiati has Fiori ().

He will be useful, but it doesn't take away the need for a CB though.

Like han, I love the idea of the old Sheva. But I'm expecting too much for it to be that way. However, wimpy and gay as it might sound, I just know that if he does come, wears the jersey again, damn..I won't even need him to score, just to see him back standing along with Paolo and Ambro and Sandro...I'm gonna go like Renee Zellwegger in Jerry Maguire... 'You had me on hello!'

That's exactly why I'm upset about him... he hurt the feelings of many Rossoneri fans especially for signing for a mercenary team like Chelski.

Let me tell you guys... I'd like to see Sheva do well if he does come back. But the reality could tell a far different story.

to err is human,to forgive is divine..we may not embrace him,but he should be forgiven..

Some people obviously don't believe in 2nd chances.

He should be forgiven?!!

What the hell?! This guy is a Milan legend and some are contemplating forgiveness! Just because he didn't stay with us all his career doesn't mean he's evil. He left Kiev there fans don't hate him.

Whatever way he left it was hardly a farce. He left us for a healthy fee at the time, I don't see what was wrong god help us if some of you know what some players do. I remember Kewell at Leeds, probably worth about £20-25mil at the time, he left Leeds for £5mil and made the club pay £3m to his agent because they were going down, that's screwing a club over...

This isn't about whether I think he will be the same player, I'm 99% sure he won't be anywhere near but I mean all this traitor rubbish is ludicrous. Just my thoughts...

TMW says :

today, in Monaco : Adriano Galliani, Peter Kenyon and the player dine together, then Abramovich on one of its luxurious ships to goodbaye

tomorrow : travel to London for the signing of the agreement and official .


Sheva should land in Milan on Sunday or at the latest, Monday.

I don't see how Sheva is a traitor personally. He left the club, so what? Alot of people say it's because he said he wanted to stay at Milan and become a legend. Does that mean he's not allowed to change his mind and say he wants to leave?



This quote from Sheva sums it up really. People think he just 'got up and left'.. even here he says there isn't a definitive decision, so he obviously took alot of time to think his answer through. This quote is from May 12th.. he left on May 28th.. that's over 2 weeks people!So he'd obviously thought about leaving for a while.. is it Sheva's fault if Silvio decided not to release these details? Ha! Some guys make it sound like he said "I want to stay forever.. now I want to leave" in one sentence.

EDIT: I'm not trying to say my opinion is right or anything, everyone has their own opinion. I just hope people don't start forgiving him if he scores plenty of goals for us.

Who? Sheva? OK, han's right. this is getting ridiculous! what are these weird numbers? Ronaldo's 99 was nice. even the Little Ronaldo's 80 was OK (for me). but Flattuso's 84 and now Sheva's 76...


Isn't #11 occupied?





Wanna bet that he will score more goals than Sheva?? (that is, of course, if Carlo doesn't act stupidly and bench Pato in favor of Sheva - which is, unfortunately, a big possibility )

As much as I want to say I agree with you... I can't.

Yes he was a legend. The keyword is he "was".

How he left Milan created wounds in the fans and poured salt in them. It wasn't just that he left, but as Tennie said it was how he left. He did say "I'm not going anywhere and I want to be captain of Milan one day", yet, shortly later he signs a contract with Chelsea.

He was NOT honest about it, and 2nd chances are difficult for me to give.

I think everyone needs to understand he's not the Sheva we used to know. That old Sheva is gone.

Some will try their best to cover up the nature of his leaving, but it's simple reality. He didn't leave for the schools. There are great schools in Italy (with an international private one in Milan that is an American private school). I think He left for the money.

or maybe we could see them play side-by-side.

He said he left for family reasons, if you don't believe that then don't. People automatically assume players go to Chelsea for money, even when it's a ridiculous accusation. Look at Ashley Cole, he earned the name 'Cashley' because he joined Chelsea.. even though he took a pay cut to go there!

Actions speak differently than words. I think it was all about money but I'm generally considered a pessimist with regards to people. It's not a ridiculous accusation at all considering Chelski is a mercenary team.



Unlikely because Ancelotti would play 4-3-2-1. I think Pato should always start, and Sheva if he does come back should stay on the bench. But still I'd be in favor of Sheva going to some lower ranked team because he's not worth it to come to Milan.

I'm not forgiving him!

Well, it is a ridiculous accusation to say "Ashley Cole moved to Chelsea for money.. even though he took a pay cut!"

I'm not talking about Cole in this regard. I don't know the specifics of that case.

Djibril Cisse is on the verge of completing a move to Sunderland..

It did. Anyway, point noted. Sorry about the misunderstanding. I've been called a gal quite a few times myself, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. That's the thing with user names, I guess.


Very valid point. Fame isn't the only criteria of success. But then again Beckham used to be good. For a brief period, probably the best of his generation. Other than that agree with your post.

I thought you were a girl when you signed up.. no idea why?

I used to love that Andriy character. But he did some bad moves and he sold himself out in my eyes. But I do welcome him back. In a different manner. Now he's just a goalscoring machine, with no credit, no bonus, no admiration. He just has to do his job - score and make us better. Anything other then that is...not interesting for me. It's just a raw deal.

So this debate is still going on. There still seems to be a variety of opinion on the matter.

I don't think Shevchenko left for money. I think he left because his wife wanted to be famous and glamorous in London. The 'kids learning English' argument doesn't hold water for me because, well, there are a number of English-language schools in Milan because of the sizeable expat (UK/Oz/US/Canada) contingent in the city.

I am going to disagree with interpretations that paint Shevchenko as being completely honest with the fans about his departure. He might well have been honest with management/Berlusconi, but the Gazzetta articles I recall reading at the time have him swearing loyalty and then all of a sudden doing a reverse face. I'm not sure if the 'traitor' label is entirely accurate but I think it's close. (The curva seems to think so too, for what it's worth. So too does Ancelotti, or he did when he did that Iene interview).

Dry-cleaning polar bears, maybe? You weren't alone in thinking this, though.


That's the reason. The exact reason. His wife.

Well, I'll do what the team does. If Maldini, Nesta, Gattuso, Ambrosini and the rest can embrace him back, who am I to say different?

Agree , he played with us and even he thought he was playing with Berlusconi and Galliani , also he thought that he will leave a village and some low level people for what he thought is an utopia , but he didnt find anything new and also he failed on his job , he understood and became a little more mature for responsibility of his actions . this hard experience would be enough for him even if he didnt return here !

Thay'd make a great pair. but Carlo will never field Kaka and Sheva and Ronaldinho and Pato all together. that'd be too offensive for our defensive minded coach.

They will. even if some of them may have to 'pretend'.

Sad but true, too offensive for a cowardice coach.
But only last year I was dreaming of this line-up, and in the next few days it might turn into reality.

Shevchenko
Pato
Ronaldinho
Kaka'
Seedorf
Pirlo
Flamini
Jankulovski
Maldini/Kaladze
Nesta
Zambrotta
Abbiatti

I mean, is this fantasy football or something?

but suddenly press is so quiet abt sheva thing let first wait it to be official

12 players

Both Sheva and Pato will wear the number 7. Confuse the ref. He'll think there's just 11 players.

Oops! my bad. I guess I'm just over-excited huh?

well if it was andy murray and pato i would have ageed but sheva and pato nope unless the ref is blind

Latest reports in the press (mediaset, tuttomercatoweb, etc) indicate that there should be a meeting today in Montecarlo between Shevchenko and Chelsea people. Then tomorrow, the Milan folks will arrive and the deal will be finalized.

(for what it's worth, I've spoken with a friend who's a season ticket holder at the San Siro. Her comment re: Sheva's return? 'I'm disgusted'.)

No, no one took it after Gila left last season.

@ Tennie, no matter what the season ticket holders say, IF Sheva comes it will be because Silvio always wanted him back. There's no reason, football wise why Milan would want him back, Silvio started talking about bringing his 'son' back just a few months after he left so there is no surprise that Sheva might be coming back. Because what Silvio wants, Silvio gets.

Personally I am ready to accept him back if he does put on the shirt again, and he'll probably get booed a couple of times at the San Siro until he starts scoring goals. And the fans will probably never feel the way they did about him before he left but if he does start scoring goals they will start to accept him again.

Personally I do think that he will be useful to us. And he will score goals. Fact is Sheva should have never gone to the EPL, technical players like him suffer in that league, especially when they're not in their prime and can't rely on pace anymore. But Serie A is different, he knows the league like the back of his hand, and even though he has lost that yard of pace, he will know how to adapt his game to that.

Borriello has the #11 jersey.

He does? I thought no one took it after Gila

Yep, he does.

http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=70377

I didn't know it was proved!

Well, Trini, given the other possibilities, the only logical 'traditore' was Shevchenko. It just doens't work for anyone else.

I guess...

sheva thing has complicated again according to mediaset drogba injury and i think some kaka-chelsea issue.....if this also fall through i think Milan should then never deal with chelsea again

...link?

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?a...d&id=118683 (TMW)
http://www.sportmediaset.it/mercato/articoli/14920/ (mediaset)

Now I know why Tennie calls this 'The Silly Season'. One thing today, the complete opposite thing tomorrow.

but this type of stuff it is the same club chelsea i even hate them more now

The whole thing should be left to rest by Milan. It's clear that Chelsea will not just give him to us on loan while paying a large portion of his wages, especially not after paying that ammount of money for him in the first place.

or maybe sheva can reduce his wages and return to milan

Milan are 'a long way from Sheva'
Thursday 21 August, 2008
Latest reports suggest that Milan are some distance from reaching an agreement with Chelsea for the signature of Andriy Shevchenko.

The Ukrainian international was a hero at San Siro before leaving for Chelsea in the summer of 2006.

Sheva has suffered horribly at Stamford Bridge and is allegedly desperate to return to his old stomping ground and rumours stated that a loan deal between Milan and Chelsea was almost complete.

However, despite Milan director Silvano Ramacconi's claims yesterday that an agreement is close there are a number of stumbling blocks.

According to The Independent, the Rossoneri have asked Chelsea to pay a portion of Shevchenko's wages but the Blues are unwilling to do so.

Having dug deep in their wallet to bring Ronaldinho to the club earlier in the summer, Milan don't have a great deal of money available for Sheva's salary.

It is widely believed that the only way a deal can be done is if Shevchenko is included in a move for defender Branislav Ivanovic


The bold part is again a blunder by C4 and it seems there is this wage issue earlier reports said it was agreed in meeting btween SIlvio and roman now off course it is different atleast accroding the independent..... if chelsea ahd agreed and now turned around again then this is no gud or maybe and prbobly it is the itlain media which hypes stuff to much

I don't think that can happen now because of the contract.