Tennie
Jun 14 2008, 12:50 PM
As regards the Adebayor story, Portikins, the same web page you quoted also has a story quoting Adebayor's agent who said that 'it'd be difficult to say no to Milan'. There's yet another story on that page that says Wenger's made the 45 million price official and that Galliani may be flying to London to negotiate. So, including all the information on that particular page, I think the matter is still open to interpretation.

Corriere is reporting that Bayern want Massimo Oddo.
whoarethepatriots
Jun 14 2008, 01:01 PM
I heard something about an Oddo-Sagnol swap a few days ago. It would be extremely stupid on our behalf to let Oddo go for Sangol
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 01:03 PM
yea oddo-sagnol swap wont make any sense for both the clubs and we lose a player from our youth so i think we shall stick with oddo
morgoth
Jun 14 2008, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 14 2008, 01:01 PM)
I heard something about an Oddo-Sagnol swap a few days ago. It would be extremely stupid on our behalf to let Oddo go for Sangol
I'm not sure about that, Sagnol is exactly the kind of fullback we need, he delivers the best crosses and is good defending, the only bad thing about him is his physical condition, as seen in his two games with France he's out of form!
Fillipo Simone
Jun 14 2008, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 14 2008, 01:05 PM)
I'm not sure about that, Sagnol is exactly the kind of fullback we need, he delivers the best crosses and is good defending, the only bad thing about him is his physical condition, as seen in his two games with France he's out of form!
Let's see:
Oddo-Sagnol
age: 31-31
caps: 32-57
Both have the ability to attack but not a "natural gift". Sagnol's crossing is better, while Oddo can shoot and take penalty-kicks. Willy is stronger in the air, Oddo is faster. The crucial thing is, Oddo is a better defensive RB IMO. Also, he's one of the Milan-youth product players, so...I don't think he's up to a move.
Ry4n
Jun 14 2008, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 14 2008, 10:07 AM)
I thought of that too but I don't know if I'm just dreaming...

We can both dream together we will make it come true , just gunna text Marco and ask him to sell us Klass
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 04:14 PM
drogba has now said he doesnot want to leave chelsea
armiss
Jun 14 2008, 04:36 PM
Adebayor: My Future's With Arsenal
Emmanuel Adebayor looks likely to stay at Arsenal following talks with manager Arsene Wenger about his future, which has been the subject of intense speculation for weeks.
Emmanuel Adebayor has been strongly linked with a move to AC Milan - and his agent Stephane Courbis this week suggested that the Togo striker would find an offer from the Rossoneri hard to decline.
And it was reported yesterday that Milan director Adriano Galliani was planning to fly to London this week to talk directly to the Arsenal board members about securing Adebayor's signature.
However, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has always stressed that he does not want Adebayor to go, and the player himself has played down talk of a move.
"My future with Arsenal has never been in doubt and I want to assure fans I will be here for many years," Adebayor said in The Sun.
"My agent has met with coach Arsene Wenger about a new deal and I am happy about how the talks are going so the fans can rest assured."
The Togo international only signed a new deal with the Gunners last year but after he hit 30 goals during the 2007-08 season and aroused the covetous interest of rival clubs on the continent, the Gunners could be about to offer him a lucrative contract extension, which Adebayor could be about to sign.
Earlier this week, Adebayor's agent Courbis said on Italian radio: “It is difficult to say if Emmanuel will play for Milan.
“I know the club has been in contact with Arsenal and now it all depends on the intentions of the English side.
“Milan are a great club, among the best in the world, and when a team like that wants to buy you, you have to think about it very carefully.
“There has to be an agreement between the two clubs. Adebayor is happy at Arsenal, but when a player is tracked by Milan, it is difficult to turn them down.â€
So now only Eto'o remains !
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 04:41 PM
and eto is expensive and chelsea and inter are after him aswell so this stiker lane is shrinking and shrinking in the end it could be crespo
kurtsimonw
Jun 14 2008, 04:44 PM
I'm sure things would have been different had we been able to offer CL football. Now the only striker we've managed to get isn't World class, and we already owned half of him!
dst
Jun 14 2008, 04:55 PM
As we all... as most of us expected CL football IS a big factor... so here's what I've been thinking. Should we settle for second-rate players or should we bet on young rising stars for the future? In my view we should do the second. I think it's better to leave the scudetto race on one side and focus on creating a team that will conquer Italy and Europe not next season but for a long time after that! I don't think we can aim for the championship anyway. I don't think our bench has so far improved significantly compared to last season and it would not be wise to bring in a dozen players to do that anyway... we need a core. Bring in the youngsters and make a bet for the future, that's what I think we should do!
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 04:57 PM
young stikers are more expensive like aguro,benezma the only options which we can fight for are gomez or someone like jo i thin we should get R10 who was willing to join us but with chelsea in that will also be difficult
dst
Jun 14 2008, 05:01 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 14 2008, 06:57 PM)
young stikers are more expensive like aguro,benezma the only options which we can fight for are gomez or someone like jo i thin we should get R10 who was willing to join us but with chelsea in that will also be difficult
I don't think Pato was expensive. And I don't think Huntelaar will cost us that much either.
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 05:29 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 14 2008, 05:01 PM)
I don't think Pato was expensive. And I don't think Huntelaar will cost us that much either.
i dont consider hunleear as young by young i thought u meant some one like pato and i think he wants UCL.... as for pato finding someone like him will be very difficult now
dst
Jun 14 2008, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 14 2008, 07:29 PM)
i dont consider hunleear as young by young i thought u meant some one like pato and i think he wants UCL.... as for pato finding someone like him will be very difficult now
Huntelaar is already 24. But he still has not made the big step.
Ry4n
Jun 14 2008, 07:19 PM
i think 15 Mil is probably a good price for him but , the more people want to buy him the more the price will go up remember his move from SC Heerenveen was 9 Million
Bluesummers
Jun 14 2008, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Jun 14 2008, 12:19 PM)
i think 15 Mil is probably a good price for him but , the more people want to buy him the more the price will go up remember his move from SC Heerenveen was 9 Million
hopefully we'll fork out something
TriniKing_CE
Jun 14 2008, 07:40 PM
Some time back we were linked with Quagliarella, what ever happened to that>!?
I mean first of Udinese might not want to sell him but if the possibilty was there I think he can be a good option. He is italain, young-ish (just turned 25), talanted, fast and i am sure we can make good use of him.
Anywayz he is not a WC striker obviously
(but seeing that our options are lessening)
...I think we can consider him a good fall back option! if he ever considered leaving Udinese that is!
dst
Jun 14 2008, 07:44 PM
Neither Di Natale nor Quagliarella are good enough to be in Milan's starting XI.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 14 2008, 07:47 PM
I beg to differ
Tennie
Jun 14 2008, 07:50 PM
So do I. Okay, Quagliarella is no Didier Drogba. That said, he's proven in Serie A. If no big name strikers come in, I wouldn't cry if he were bought (and Paloschi remains).
Bluesummers
Jun 14 2008, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 14 2008, 12:50 PM)
So do I. Okay, Quagliarella is no Didier Drogba. That said, he's proven in Serie A. If no big name strikers come in, I wouldn't cry if he were bought (and Paloschi remains).
di natali, di michelle, quaq, cassano are all choices.
vnata001
Jun 14 2008, 09:04 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 14 2008, 11:57 AM)
di natali, di michelle, quaq, cassano are all choices.
geez. we already had the impotent gila, signed the 3rd best scorer in italy in boriello, i would prefer if we left any of those 4 names off of our squad. simply buy berbatov. he's the best option.
gomez is young and mistake prone. eto'o would be nice, but he's too similar to pato. drogba's prolific but too old. adebayor is overrated. Benzy is very sadly not for sale..Berbatov is now entering his prime, and he is peaking.
what a great idea it would be to go into next year with crespo, pato, pippo, and boriello. Three goal poachers, 2 that are past it, one that hasn't proven it...and an 18 year old Second Striker!
I think of Berbatov like a Luca Toni clone, with maybe slightly a little more place..how would that not be exactly what we need?
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 09:53 PM
now with all these players option decreaing and R10 seems to go to chelsea now that means that our chances of getting a world class player are nearly over and silvio said adebyour is expensive i think
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 10:00 PM
well as it seems that we are quite out of option real madrid saviola anyone???
dst
Jun 14 2008, 10:17 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 15 2008, 12:00 AM)
well as it seems that we are quite out of option real madrid saviola anyone???
Are we that desperate!?
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 14 2008, 11:00 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 14 2008, 10:17 PM)
well after last year emeson after al that drama of MR X i am worried so wouldnt mind some one like saviola
whoarethepatriots
Jun 14 2008, 11:44 PM
Galliani (or Braida or someone important - cant remember who at the moment) has said that Manu Adebayor is too expensive, which is only a good thing for us
I thought it would be nice to share this good news
dst
Jun 14 2008, 11:52 PM
Berlusconi said that.
morgoth
Jun 14 2008, 11:55 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 14 2008, 07:40 PM)
Some time back we were linked with Quagliarella, what ever happened to that>!?
I mean first of Udinese might not want to sell him but if the possibilty was there I think he can be a good option. He is italain, young-ish (just turned 25), talanted,
fast and i am sure we can make good use of him.
Quagli is every thing but fast!
han2503
Jun 15 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 14 2008, 10:55 PM)
Quagli is every thing but fast!
Exactly, if I were going to choose between the 2 Udine boys I would take Di Natale, I think he'd fit in more, and he's not world class far from that but he is quality and will give us more pace upfront
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 15 2008, 10:32 AM
it seems tht chances of getting a world class stiker or even a big name stiker are almost over and another oliveria sort of player is something we could be getting
han2503
Jun 15 2008, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 15 2008, 09:32 AM)
it seems tht chances of getting a world class stiker or even a big name stiker are almost over and another oliveria sort of player is something we could be getting
Exacty what I've been expecting from the moment they shifted gears from R10 to then saying we have 5 strikers on our list and one of them will come, to then lowering it to 3 because the others are too expensive. And now they're saying that Adebayor and Eto'o are too expensive.
That only leaves Drogba and I don't expect Chelsea to let him go for anything lessthen atleast £27 - £30M.
Galliani says that Milan want to buy a WC striker but apparently he's not willing to go over the £20M mark, or even less then that if possible

which imo, is more then a bit unrealistic. As I said in another thread, this is not the 80's, the market is different now
Portman
Jun 15 2008, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2008, 12:19 PM)
Exacty what I've been expecting from the moment they shifted gears from R10 to then saying we have 5 strikers on our list and one of them will come, to then lowering it to 3 because the others are too expensive. And now they're saying that Adebayor and Eto'o are too expensive.
That only leaves Drogba and I don't expect Chelsea to let him go for anything lessthen atleast £27 - £30M.
Galliani says that Milan want to buy a WC striker but apparently he's not willing to go over the £20M mark, or even less then that if possible

which imo, is more then a bit unrealistic. As I said in another thread, this is not the 80's, the market is different now
han, 1 word: abbonamenti.
It's always the same thing every year.
We're behaving as a team like Porto trying to buy Messi.
"Yes, we want him."
"We're talking to his agent."
In the end of the day: "He costs too much and his club doesn't even answer our calls." OH REALLY? FFS.
Portman
Jun 15 2008, 01:14 PM
Until now:
Zed.D
Jun 15 2008, 01:25 PM
I don't care what others' responses to my words might be, but, I think Porty's right about abbonamenti. during each transfer window our management keep talking of the club's will of signing the world's biggest stars, but in the end we end up with the cheapest and oldest of them all.
Zed.D
Jun 15 2008, 01:28 PM
E10 million and Di Gennaro for half of Borriello's contract? Genoa really riped us off on this!
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 15 2008, 01:37 PM
and borrillo could soon be named as our star signing
dst
Jun 15 2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
E10 million and Di Gennaro for half of Borriello's contract? Genoa really riped us off on this!
I hope this is not true! It just can't be true... we owned this guy a year ago and now we pay all that money AND we give up on Di Gennaro!?? And of course in a couple of seasons we will spend money on him too!
I have to say that I respect Galliani for what he's done over the years but the deals he has made in the past 2 seasons are real bad! And whoever cannot admit this is only turning a blind eye to it...
This is more ridiculous than Roma buying Cassano for 30m and selling him for 5! Utterly ridiculous...
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 15 2008, 02:22 PM
i think we should get VDV with a oliveria level stiker someone like bianchi,di natle etc
whoarethepatriots
Jun 15 2008, 02:23 PM
Wow 10m for Borriello and 9m For Zambrotta, our transfer guys are incapable of negotiating. Borri did score alot of goals for that much and Di Gennaro is too much. 9m For an almost 32 year old plus further money if we qualify for CL is too much.
We need Leonardo in charge of transfers, getting Kaka for cheaper than what he was and plenty of other deals, he knows how to drive a hard bargain
Portman
Jun 15 2008, 02:26 PM
The stupid thing about the 'abbonamenti' (season-tickets) is that it's not a 30M/euros or 40M/euros thing.
http://www.bilanciomilan.it/contoeconomico.htmlAccording to Milan, the abbonanmenti gave us 13M in 2005 and 12M in 2006. Nothing out of this world for a club like us. That's just Kaka's wages...
Rossoneri7
Jun 15 2008, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 15 2008, 02:19 PM)
Exacty what I've been expecting from the moment they shifted gears from R10 to then saying we have 5 strikers on our list and one of them will come, to then lowering it to 3 because the others are too expensive. And now they're saying that Adebayor and Eto'o are too expensive.
That only leaves Drogba and I don't expect Chelsea to let him go for anything lessthen atleast £27 - £30M.
Galliani says that Milan want to buy a WC striker but apparently he's not willing to go over the £20M mark, or even less then that if possible

which imo, is more then a bit unrealistic. As I said in another thread, this is not the 80's, the market is different now
It's like 'why do I even try'
armiss
Jun 15 2008, 03:49 PM
It's true and we cant do anything , something that make it even worse is that every year we are harder about this strategy, even in Eufa cup !!
Galliani has said another about this strategy , he said that he has enough experience and he will not pay attention to Media & Market voices , but this year in eufa cup entry we take new lessons and he still repeat
if our problem in money making is Stadum why they dont start to go their own way without city of Milan & inter !
Fillipo Simone
Jun 15 2008, 04:23 PM
Why don't we just wait...
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 15 2008, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 15 2008, 04:23 PM)
Why don't we just wait...
because that is what we did in the lest 2 summers
armiss
Jun 15 2008, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 15 2008, 07:53 PM)
Why don't we just wait...
becuz we are always waiting ....
for fans it makes worry !!! all of this words dont mean that we are not content with Milan results , it is becuz after calciopoli we are very slow in market and one of it's signs is eufa cup !
kurtsimonw
Jun 15 2008, 05:13 PM
To say we're slow on the market is a bit unfair. We already have Zambrotta and Flamini (Not sure if Boriello is official is it?) and the transfer window hasn't even opened yet. So to sign 2 players before it's even open is pretty quick business if you ask me.
han2503
Jun 15 2008, 06:29 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 15 2008, 12:50 PM)
I hope this is not true! It just can't be true... we owned this guy a year ago and now we pay all that money AND we give up on Di Gennaro!?? And of course in a couple of seasons we will spend money on him too!
I have to say that I respect Galliani for what he's done over the years but the deals he has made in the past 2 seasons are real bad! And whoever cannot admit this is only turning a blind eye to it...
This is more ridiculous than Roma buying Cassano for 30m and selling him for 5! Utterly ridiculous...
Totally true.
I've said before we got Boriello the idea of paying for a player that was ours just 1 single season before is completely ridiculous. And on top of that paying that ammount of money and giving up on a prospect for the future for a player that has already been given more then one chance at Milan!!! It's completely unthinkable, they go on and on about how we can't spend money but they go and throw it away on this deal.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 15 2008, 03:23 PM)
Why don't we just wait...
Because we'll probably end up with another Oliveira in the end
Bluesummers
Jun 15 2008, 06:47 PM
There is nothing we can do guys. Lets stop dreaming and face reality.
We are in the uefa cup, which means the revenue we are used to isn't going to come anymore so we have to settle for less all around. Berlu doesn't look like he wants to invest as much as he used to in the club so we'll have to make profit. Signing a WC striker probably won't come and we are all seeing it now. Its all season ticket selling schemes that our club pulled last year.
I'm still gonna give galliani and co till august 31 to see what they will do but i'm definatly not happy with what has been going on. Maybe they will change my mind but as of right now i dont think galliani/berlu and co staying at our club is in our best interest. Every club has to spend sometime and we are not fiorentina that we can say oh well we dont have money or a rich board to support us, furthermore they seem to spend more than us

We are milan, there is no excuse. The amount of merchandise/sales from the fanbase is huge. What i do think is that there are more underlining reasons to why we dont spend much as a club.
1) we shouldn't be paying kaka 9m a season, that is just too much and hurts us.
2) We need to stop getting 30 year olds/ freebies and try to rebuild from our primevera. Instead of say signing a wc midfielder, lets sell brocchi and bring back di genaro and in a few years he'll be a star but its too late for that.
3) Berlu has to spend. He hasn't spent in 3 years and that is just BS.
4) Players like dida/ronaldo/emerson/brocchi are getting payed way to much and do jack ****. I have calculated that by freeing those 4 we will have freed 300k in wages. Lets use our young italian prospects loaned all of over italy. Di genaro, marzoratti, abate etc as reserves for our starting. This is what we should have done because we are in seria A not champions league, so there is nothign to lose really.
But what i say doesn't matter so i will stop and let a foolish old man who uses experience from 20 years ago run our club and we will see at the end of the day where we end up.
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