Tennie
Jun 20 2008, 12:54 PM
Interesting interview (mostly about the Euros) with Carletto in the online edition of Gazzetta (
link)
When asked about which players had impressed him, he named Luka Modric and Andrei Arshavin.
Jack Sparrow
Jun 20 2008, 01:20 PM
@zd: It's not an issue really if all we have to do is play Serie A. This same thread bare squad when it was dead tired already beat Fio, Inter, Juve and almost beat Roma. The thing was the fatigue meant no consistency.
Pato to score in all competitions? We'll probably rest Pato in Coppa Italia. And Borrielo even if he scores 10 goals is good enough. Since Kaka is going to be playing as a striker from now on.
Serie A is about getting 3 points. It doesn't matter beating Inter, if you're going to lose with Bologna, even if it is on a non-existent penalty.
Like I said, they'll play for the numbers, and look to finish in the top 3 next season. Cut the losses for this season. A very un-Bayern approach.
mishie
Jun 20 2008, 03:05 PM
i don't think we'll take the UEFA cup seriously and probably put out the Coppa Italia side for them games, the lack of depth does bother me and the big thing is now we seem to be like most clubs and watch the euro's carefully!! Adebayor or nothing not really sure thats a scenario we all envisaged the start of the summer......defining times ahead me thinks!!
morgoth
Jun 20 2008, 03:25 PM
merda's target A.Konko has signed for Sevilla and Coupet is said to be very close to joint Villarreal will probably mean that we'll keep Abbiati ...
dst
Jun 20 2008, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 20 2008, 02:53 PM)
Has Borriello ever performed in Milan? no.
That's not true. He has had a few very good games. The truth is no one ever believed in him before. His good performances were always seen as the exception...
It's not being made official yet, has it?
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 20 2008, 02:54 PM)
When asked about which players had impressed him, he named
Luka Modric and Andrei Arshavin.
Oh really? Too late for that now...
aLbErTo
Jun 20 2008, 03:58 PM
i was talking about modric and corluka more then a year ago...but yeah, it's too late now
maybe we could get corluka anyway
Warchant
Jun 20 2008, 04:01 PM
QUOTE (nuh @ Jun 20 2008, 03:55 AM)
ade scored the third most goal in england and you guy's are telling me these players are better than him

he scored 30 goals rooney scored 11 berbatov 15 drogba scored 8 or 9 goals if u guys are looking fora player like that then why dont we just keep gila he will score 10-15 goals a year
drogba is a gr8 player but he is getting old
berbatov is gd but he is lazy and would only play at his best when he wishes to
rooney is a gr8 player but he wont score 20-30 goals every year he would not be a 100% scorer
santa cruz is a wonderful player but he gets injured alot and that wont help us at all
kean are crazy or something kean wont be and is not a wc striker he never played cl he didn't even do well at inter
anelka i dont want to even talk about him....he scored only 2 goals for chelsea omg he scored as much as palosochi
look at this video of ade i hope it will change ur mind about him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XhSVU9KTisi'm glad you posted this...it really surprises me that everyone here doesn't want ade when he scored a lot of goals in the EPL. everytime i saw him he usually played very well. honestly, i wouldn't mind if he came.
Ry4n
Jun 20 2008, 04:18 PM
Hope he signs for us !!!
just let him go wenger !!!!!!!!!!!
dst
Jun 20 2008, 04:25 PM
QUOTE (nuh @ Jun 20 2008, 11:55 AM)
look at this video of ade i hope it will change ur mind about him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XhSVU9KTisGood video... the problem with Ade is that to do all that... he's wasted more than a million chances!
sansiro1708
Jun 20 2008, 04:32 PM
GET VELOSO AND HUNTELAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!!!
kurtsimonw
Jun 20 2008, 04:52 PM
QUOTE (nuh @ Jun 20 2008, 08:55 AM)
ade scored the third most goal in england and you guy's are telling me these players are better than him

he scored 30 goals rooney scored 11 berbatov 15 drogba scored 8 or 9 goals if u guys are looking fora player like that then why dont we just keep gila he will score 10-15 goals a year
And how many chances did Adebayor have compared to those? If a guy like Santa Cruz or Rooney was at Arsenal instead of him, they'd have scored alot more goals with the chances they gave him.
maldini03
Jun 20 2008, 04:54 PM
Personally I only want Adebeyor
If he looses the 'fro. I mean how doofy does he look with it. I like the corn rows waaaaaaaaay better.
Zed.D
Jun 20 2008, 05:24 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2008, 06:01 PM)
That's not true. He has had a few very good games. The truth is no one ever believed in him before. His good performances were always seen as the exception...
Then you're content with Borriello?
When I say performing, I mean performing all season long... taking full advantage of the tiniest chances that the coach hands you, and Borriello never did that imo.
Warchant
Jun 20 2008, 05:38 PM
i would rather have a guy waste a million chance and score 30 than have gila who didn't take chances period.
kurtsimonw
Jun 20 2008, 05:42 PM
I don't think he'll be scoring 30 at Milan, not with our midfield.
Bluesummers
Jun 20 2008, 05:44 PM
OFFICIAL: Milan, Spring Bruscagin goes to Monza
The young defender Matteo Bruscagin class 1989, National Under-19, passed by the Spring of Milan on loan to Monza.
Bluesummers
Jun 20 2008, 05:48 PM
QUOTE
The big names promised by Galliani about the Milan market at large.Adebayor seems directed at Barcelona, Eto'o thing too, Drogba Winking look at Mourinho and Ronaldinho all silent.Too silence, that the rossoneri fans are not accepting certainly welcome. Too fresh "botta" of exclusion from the Champions and the delay by cousins champions Italy to wait patiently, and now that the inbox portal MilanNews, since the director of the site has taken the initiative to personally respond to the doubts of supporters, is becoming incandescent. Hundreds mails that with every day are writing flood, thermometer important for managers of Turati regard to your way of tifoseria milanista. How easily conceivable, is to Ronaldinho is the name most desired and, so far, regret.
you have 2 months left galliani before your forced resignation. Lets see what you can do.
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 20 2008, 05:48 PM
and we keep sellin and loaning but dont do actual market stuff
TriniKing_CE
Jun 20 2008, 06:12 PM
QUOTE (maldini03 @ Jun 20 2008, 11:54 AM)
Personally I only want Adebeyor
If he looses the 'fro. I mean how doofy does he look with it. I like the corn rows waaaaaaaaay better.

I'm sorry this isn't a fashion show!
He could have been 10X uglier than he already is and i would have taken him once he was pure class
Back to reality anyhow.
If he goes Barca, we might have a better chance of an Eto'o capture!
TriniKing_CE
Jun 20 2008, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 20 2008, 11:25 AM)
Good video... the problem with Ade is that to do all that... he's wasted more than a million chances!
+1
TriniKing_CE
Jun 20 2008, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2008, 12:38 PM)
i would rather have a guy waste a million chance and score 30 than have gila who didn't take chances period.
I can understand what you're saying and it makes sense!
But realise that Gila had many goals before coming to us as well (and he was actually accoustomed to italian football), and I am not saying if Ade was to come he wouldn't play well for certain. Just that for the price being placed on him I would say he is by far over valued! And there are better options!
By the way, its not that I am discrediting EPL or so, but I don't rate EPL topscores solely on the amount of goals they score in that league, compared to serie a, the play is much more open and alot less tactical!
I am not however, saying that it is impossible to be a talented foward in EPL while you are the topscorer though!
Zed.D
Jun 20 2008, 07:06 PM
QUOTE
Milan zero in on Arshavin
Friday 20 June, 2008
A scrum is breaking out between Europe’s top clubs trying to sign Russian revelation Andrei Arshavin, but Milan are leading.
Although he missed the first two games of Euro 2008 due to a ban, Arshavin has made a major impact on the competition already.
“The only player unexpected to hit these heights was the Russian, Arshavin,†said Rossoneri boss Carlo Ancelotti in the Gazzetta dello Sport.
Milan’s interest is set to intensify further after his Coach at UEFA Cup winners Zenit spoke of his talents.
“He is a player of exceptional opportunism,†explained Advocaat on Goal.com.
“He is the classic man you don’t see for 50 minutes, but when you do spot him the ball is already in the back of the net.
“There are few out there with these characteristics. Sometimes you sit on the bench and think, ‘I really should substitute him,’ but at the end of the day you don’t because you know full well he can decide a match in a split second.â€
The description is reminiscent of Milan veteran Pippo Inzaghi, who is looking for an heir to his throne at San Siro.
“I know Arshavin is interested in a move abroad and that would not be good news for us,†continued Advocaat.
“I hope he stays, but in all honesty I get the feeling if he has the right opportunity then he’ll leave us very soon.â€
To fuel the speculation further, Ancelotti was in the stands for Russia’s match against Sweden and, as the negotiations for Emmanuel Adebayor hit more hurdles between Arsenal and Barcelona, a swift turn towards Russia might be beneficial.
C4
Tennie
Jun 20 2008, 07:14 PM
I think it's fantamercato, but if it were to happen, the fish doll would give an enthusiastic fins up.
dst
Jun 20 2008, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 20 2008, 07:24 PM)
Then you're content with Borriello?
When I say performing, I mean performing all season long... taking full advantage of the tiniest chances that the coach hands you, and Borriello never did that imo.
Of course not.
No he did not but some players need more time to develop and he was not given that time. I'm not saying he would have become a star player... I'm just saying that we gave up on him easily.
That's what I also wanted to happen, I'm not blaming anyone.
I still don't think Borriello is a great player anyway...
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2008, 07:38 PM)
i would rather have a guy waste a million chance and score 30 than have gila who didn't take chances period.
We don't create as many chances are Arsenal do. Gila would also score that much if he was given those countless chances to do it.
In my opinion, we need a truly great player, a player that not only can score with as less chances as possible but also create chances on his own.
We lost Sheva, we were promised a replacement and we should have got it. It's been 2 (!!) years already! Pato is not a direct Sheva replacement, he needs much time to get to that level...
Now you may say that Sheva is not just any ordinary player and that he can't be replaced so easily. Let's say it takes 2 years or more... but after so much searching (which I assume there was), is Ade the answer? I can't believe that's true! There are many better players out there...
We also lost Gila. Now Gila only delivered big in his first season but he was brought in to deliver big so he is a loss too if you think where we should be according to plan...
dst
Jun 20 2008, 07:19 PM
Come on!!! Ancelotti says Arshavin has impressed him in the Euro and a few hours later we're zeroing in!?!?
FOR ****S SAKE!!!
kurtsimonw
Jun 20 2008, 07:40 PM
"Although he missed the first two games of Euro 2008 due to a ban, Arshavin has made a major impact on the competition already."

Yeah, that whole one game he was so superb.
mishie
Jun 20 2008, 07:49 PM
Huntelaar is staying at Ajax because of the Van Basten impact and Ashavin is being paid alot of money to stay at Zenit so neither are a option
Tennie
Jun 20 2008, 08:41 PM
Mediaset is engaging in fantamercato too.

Today's latest is that there have been tentative talks between Milan and their old friend Marco Van Basten about Huntelaar. Wish it'd happen but...I suspect it's more wishful thinking than anything.
mishie
Jun 20 2008, 09:02 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 20 2008, 07:41 PM)
Mediaset is engaging in fantamercato too.

Today's latest is that there have been tentative talks between Milan and their old friend Marco Van Basten about Huntelaar. Wish it'd happen but...I suspect it's more wishful thinking than anything.
trying to find the link..but i read that Huntelaar said he wanted to spend 1 more season with Ajax to work with Van Basten soon as i find the link i'll post it
Tennie
Jun 20 2008, 09:04 PM
It's at the very bottom of this article:
linkMost of the article is about Adebayor and maybe Luis Fabiano substituting for him at Arsenal so he can go to Milan. The very end mentions that, well, maybe Milan are starting to think about Huntelaar.
mishie
Jun 20 2008, 09:08 PM
cheers Tennie you're a lot my organized then me..lol
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 20 2008, 09:46 PM
veleso again said about milan tthe dream move thing
morgoth
Jun 20 2008, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2008, 04:01 PM)
i'm glad you posted this...it really surprises me that everyone here doesn't want ade when he scored a lot of goals in the EPL. everytime i saw him he usually played very well. honestly, i wouldn't mind if he came.
Because only few people rate a league with such a defensive deficit! A league where players like Henry, C.Ronaldo and Adebayor are crowned kings yet they never did anything outside England, is in my opinion not reliable at all.
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 20 2008, 05:24 PM)
Then you're content with Borriello?
When I say performing, I mean performing all season long... taking full advantage of the tiniest chances that the coach hands you, and Borriello never did that imo.
Did Borriello play a whole season at Milan and have been given the chance like Gilardino or even Oliveira?! No.
whoarethepatriots
Jun 20 2008, 11:10 PM
About the whole Adebayor issue with his wastefulness. Would you want him if he scores against Bologna and Lecce but regurlarly misses potentially crucial chances versus Juve, Inter and Roma?
Quality not quantity is the key here, we need a striker who scores consistently not one who goes through a dry patch of about half a year
dst
Jun 20 2008, 11:53 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 21 2008, 01:10 AM)
About the whole Adebayor issue with his wastefulness. Would you want him if he scores against Bologna and Lecce but regurlarly misses potentially crucial chances versus Juve, Inter and Roma?
Quality not quantity is the key here, we need a striker who scores consistently not one who goes through a dry patch of about half a year
I don't think he would score that much with Milan. We don't create as many chances as Arsenal do.
Besides, I don't think he'd be good at all in Serie A. He needs a couple of meters to control the ball and you don't get that much space anywhere near the box in Serie A.
kurtsimonw
Jun 21 2008, 01:13 AM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 20 2008, 10:10 PM)
About the whole Adebayor issue with his wastefulness. Would you want him if he scores against Bologna and Lecce but regurlarly misses potentially crucial chances versus Juve, Inter and Roma?
Quality not quantity is the key here, we need a striker who scores consistently not one who goes through a dry patch of about half a year
Exactly. Everyones problem with Gila was that he didn't score against the right teams or at the right times. I don't believe Adebayours record vs Chelsea/United/Liverpool is that good. He scored 24 goals this season, 6 of those were against Derby!
TriniKing_CE
Jun 21 2008, 01:36 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 20 2008, 08:13 PM)
Exactly. Everyones problem with Gila was that he didn't score against the right teams or at the right times. I don't believe Adebayours record vs Chelsea/United/Liverpool is that good. He scored 24 goals this season, 6 of those were against Derby!
+1
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 21 2008, 10:59 AM
After the letter received from Emmanuel Adebayor, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has accepted to meet the togolese striker. The two could meet next monday, when the player will ask Wenger to be yield to AC Milan.
this is from GAZZETTA DELLO SPORT so there is a more chance of this being true than other rumours
gal_kenny
Jun 21 2008, 06:47 PM
FROM ESPNSOCCERNET.COM
Milan scout: Arsenal want to sell Adebayor to Barca
MILAN, June 21 (Serie A) - AC Milan scout Ernesto Bronzetti believes the Rossoneri have a '50% chance' of signing Arsenal forward Emmanuel Adebayor, but claims the London club intend to sell to Barcelona.
Milan vice president Adriano Galliani said on Thursday that Adebayor was now his club's sole transfer target this summer, and the the Italian club would be putting all their efforts into signing the player.
However, reports in Spain have suggested that Barcelona have reached a deal to sign Adebayor for 27million euros after repeatedly snubbing the approaches from Milan.
Bronzetti - a renowned FIFA agent and the man behind most of the big transfers between La Liga and Serie A - confirmed these reports, saying that Barca president Joan Laporta hopes to sign the 24-year-old in a bid to strengthen his position ahead of the club's presidential election on July 6.
'Let's say we have a 50% chance, a lot will depend on the wishes of the player in the end,' he told Italian TV station Radio Radio TV.
'Arsenal want to sell him to Barcelona, for their own motives. Barcelona tell me they already have an agreement with the player.
'I only know that the Barcelona president, Laporta, after having been doubted, now wants to shut everyone up by buying a big-name forward.'
However, Bronzetti believes Milan still have an advantage over their Spanish rivals, as Barcelona need to sell before they can finalise any deal with Arsenal.
The Catalan club have already spent big this summer, and need to sell unwanted players such as Ronaldinho and Samuel Eto'o to raise funds.
Both players have been told they can leave the club, and both have been linked with Milan.
But Bronzetti believes publicly announcing the pair can leave will only drive their price down, and urged Milan not to buy either of the two so as not to supply Barca with the funds.
He continued: 'I do know they won't have the economic means to buy him until they sell Eto'o or Ronaldinho, so I'd advise Milan not to buy either of them or they'll finance the operation of taking Adebayor to Barcelona.
'(Saying the players weren't needed) was a massive strategic error. Now anyone who wants to buy those players is maybe going to wait until August 29.
'They've spent 57million euros already and their finances aren't infinite, so now if wait a bit the price for Ronaldinho and Eto'o will go down.'
gal_kenny
Jun 21 2008, 06:49 PM
FROM GOAL.COM
Adebayor To Barcelona = Eto'o And Dinho To Milan - Bronzetti
Milan transfer consultant and super agent Ernesto Bronzetti insists Milan have a
fifty percent chance of signing Adebayor and he claims Arsenal want to sell the
striker to Barcelona. He also believes the Rossoneri could fuel Adebayor's move to Camp Nou and thay they could take Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho to San Siro instead.
The Rossoneri have been after the Togolese hit-man since he impressed them during Arsenal's win over Milan in the Champions League.
Adriano Galliani insists that his club are still after the player but reports claim he is heading for the Camp Nou.
However, in another sharp twist to the story, Bronzetti claims that the Gunners want to sell Adebayor to Barcelona and he is advising Galliani to bide his time as he could get Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho on the cheap.
“Let's say the possibilities are fifty fifty,†Bronzetti told Radio Radio.
“It all depends on Adebayor but the thing is, Arsenal want to sell him to Barcelona and I have already heard they have agreed a deal with the player.
“I know that Laporta wants to show the world he can bring in a great player but they can't unless they sell Ronaldinho and Eto'o.
“I advise Milan to wait a little as they could get those two players on the cheap.â€
Milan could finance Barcelona's move for Adebayor if they buy 'Dinho and Eto'o from the Blaugrana.
It seems as if Galliani doesn't want to do this because he would prefer to lure the Togolese hit-man over the other two players.
Their could well be a bargain hunt on the horizon as Barcelona may be desperate for cash in order to sign the Arsenal star and, in turn, they could let 'Dinho and Eto'o go for less than expected to bring in the funds to go shopping in North London.
dst
Jun 21 2008, 07:09 PM
Oh please Bronzetti, I'm begging you, shut the **** up!! 99% of the things you say do not ever come true so please do us all a favor and shove it or you'll find yourself six feet under!!!
edit: Arsenal are reportedly after Barcelona's Yaya Toure who they see as Flamini's replacement so it's only normal they prefer to deal with Barcelona.
TriniKing_CE
Jun 21 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 21 2008, 02:09 PM)
Oh please Bronzetti, I'm begging you, shut the **** up!! 99% of the things you say do not ever come true so please do us all a favor and shove it or you'll find yourself six feet under!!!
edit:
Arsenal are reportedly after Barcelona's Yaya Toure who they see as Flamini's replacement so it's only normal they prefer to deal with Barcelona. Thats an impossible deal simple as that!
Zed.D
Jun 21 2008, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 21 2008, 01:37 AM)
Did Borriello play a whole season at Milan and have been given the chance like Gilardino or even Oliveira?! No.
Oliveira and Gilardino both were their last teams' best strikers. Borriello had never proved himself in any team before to be given as much chances. I think now you understand the difference.
CrazyMilanFan
Jun 21 2008, 08:28 PM
i hate these damn rumours
TriniKing_CE
Jun 21 2008, 10:18 PM
Bring me Arshavin!!!
Il Capitano
Jun 21 2008, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 21 2008, 06:26 PM)
Thats an impossible deal simple as that! 
It's not that hard. + they got Keita now.
I would not mind Pavlyuchenko after the game against Holland.
Mp_snake007
Jun 21 2008, 10:24 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 21 2008, 09:18 PM)
Bring me Arshavin!!! 
DITTO, I WANT HIM TO..
morgoth
Jun 21 2008, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 21 2008, 08:14 PM)
Oliveira and Gilardino both were their last teams' best strikers. Borriello had never proved himself in any team before to be given as much chances. I think now you understand the difference.

you're wrong man, Oliveira and Gila weren't our best strikers but our first choice strikers ...

Borri played 10 games in last year with Milan's jersey, more than half of them were are a sub!!!
m1ke
Jun 21 2008, 10:28 PM
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jun 21 2008, 09:18 PM)
Bring me Arshavin!!! 
I was thinking this, but where would he play? He's awful at tracking back, so couldn't play in our midfield 3. And he's not going to replace Kaka. I guess he could play alongside him if we play the Xmas tree, but that means Pato up front on his own and he's not an ideal target man.
kurtsimonw
Jun 21 2008, 10:30 PM
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 21 2008, 09:25 PM)

you're wrong man, Oliveira and Gila weren't our best strikers but our first choice strikers ...

Borri played 10 games in last year with Milan's jersey, more than half of them were are a sub!!!
He's not saying Oli and Gila were OUR best strikers. he said they both proved themself at other teams, and had very good goal scoring records (Oli/Betis and Gila/Parma) while Boriello has never had a good scoring record, anywhere.
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