It's absolutely certain we will now be getting Ivanovic. I wonder how much we sold Simic for. Monaco came as a surprise.

We want to sign a loan deal with Ivanovic or want to buy him?

How do you know it's absolutely certain?

I think it's likely that Milan will sign a new defender now that Simic has gone.

I don't think one can say that it will FOR SURE happen, however. Things can sometimes go bad at the last minute.

Rumors have stated that the Zebras were looking at Ivanovic, yes.

We sold a defender (Simic), and now we are totally shortchanged.

Didn't Juve want Ivanovic? Have we hijacked yet another deal they wanted?

Yeah, they have been after him for a long time. First they lost Ivanovic to Chelsea and now he is probably gonna sign for us.

Now that simic has left I am pretty sure that the deal with Ivanovic is almost done.

Didn't Chelsea signed him in few months ago?So can a player transfer two times in a transfer window?

Excuse me for this questions but are they Crazy to sell a player that doesn't play for them?

He cost Chelsea £9m. We should get him much cheaper than that, but the way we've been losing money on players of late, i don't trust Galliani at all to get a good deal.

Hopefully. If he was to fail here, it could really ruin his career.. could very well be stuck in the Chelsea reserves for a couple of years.

Chelsea signed him in January. DIfferent transfer window, different season.

He cost Chelsea £9m. We should get him much cheaper than that, but the way we've been losing money on players of late, i don't trust Galliani at all to get a good deal.

I think we spent less than 20 million euros.

Found this news on tuttomercato can somebody translate it please!
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=117458

Ronnie came for 25mill, didn't he?

Thank you
So this means we are going to get him?

You have to take into account the money we made from sales... we got 10 million for Oliveira and 15 million for Gilardino.

Ronaldinho was bought for 21 million euros.

We financed much of our activity through sales.

Aah, yes, taking into account our sales, the figure will be less than 20mill or even 15mill. I thought you only meant the buys. Anyhow, about Ronnie, I think I remember reading somewhere that the transfer fee will increase to 25mill due to some clauses.

Where are we losing money on players? We got Ronaldinho on the cheap, we sold Oliveira for quite a good price and Gilardino too. We've haven't spent much for the players we got this transfer season. I think we spent less than 20 million euros.

Losing money on players means that we're buying them.. then selling them for much less. It's happened to Ronaldo, Oliveira and Gila all very recently. Then bringing players in. Okay, Ronaldinho was about a fair price. But Boriello? For christ sake, he was our player, we then pretty much gave half of him away for nothing, then spent £6m getting back, terrible business. Then Zambrotta, he's 31, had 2 bad seasons, a bad Euro's.. and the we over-paid for him in my view.

I don't trust Galliani with trying to get good deals. If he did it alot, I'd have faith in this, even if he's a complete ***, but he does a bad job, so I can't have faith in him to get it done well.

I'm with Kurt on this one. We've made losses on a lot of our recent transfers. Granted, the traitor to Chelsea for 40MM wipes away some of it (as does getting Flamini on a free) but Kurt's right.

As for Zambrotta...people who have been on the board for any length of time will probably remember my frequent posting of this: ( BRING US ZAMBROTTA!) for the better part of the year. 9MM euros is a lot for him. I love the guy, he's one of my favourite players. But to call his Euro solid...not even I would dare say that. The only Italian defender I'd say had a good Euro was Chiellini. That said, I'm more hopeful than I think some are that Zambrotta will return to something approximating his Zebra form. I'm of the opinion that the Spanish game just didn't suit him (and I don't think he particularly wanted to go to Barca anyway but that's another debate).

I don't agree with this at all. We got fair prices back on all of them and while management has made a few mistakes, they have made most of their money back. Borriello was brought back at an appropriate rate. Zambrotta was very solid in the Euro Cup... despite that one mistake against Romania. We didn't overpay for him. I thought the rate was appropriate.

And I think Galliani has an ability to get lower prices. He does a relatively good job most of the time. I do have faith in him. We've got many good deals... we got Flamini on free transfer for example...

I'm not questioning whether Borielloe, Gilardino, etc. are appropriate rates at that time. I agree in the case of Boriello and Gila that they were, but that's not the point. We had Boriello, he came through our ranks, he cost nothing. Then we give half to Genoa, for basically nothing.. then we buy that half back for £6m? That is bad business, because we had him for free in the first place, we basically wasted £6m.

Same goes for Gila, we bought him for about £17m, then sold him for about half. His performances are irrelevant, we made a bad signing which we lost money on = bad business, same for Oliveira. It doesn't work like this all the time, obviously if players are getting old their value will decrease anyway, but we're talking about throwing around £10m away on these to transfers.

Buying players for money, them sucking, then selling them for less in just not good business basically. Milan buy players at what we think they're worth.. if we then sell them for less, we obviously negotiated poorly in the beginning/over-paid for them. Like with Sheva we made money = good business.

u seems that all the rumours were not that gud as they said he will sign for us today but that does not seem to happen letsee what happens

www.avfc.co.uk can reveal Villa have agreed a fee with Rangers for Spanish defender Carlos Cuéllar and are set for talks with the player.

Villa today made a bid that invoked a release clause in Cuéllar's Rangers deal.

The Madrid-born centre-half, 27 later this month, moved to Ibrox from La Liga side Osasuna last summer and enjoyed an outstanding debut season in the SPL.

He collected the Clydesdale Bank SPL Player of the Year award and was named the Scottish Football Writers Associations Player of the Year.

Speaking as Villa's bid was confirmed Cuéllar told the official Rangers website: "I came to Rangers due to the professional manner of their officials and management and their promise of success. Everything I had been told about this fantastic Club has been true and last year's UEFA Cup run is something I will never forget.

"My ambition has always been to play for my national team and I believe that playing in the biggest league in the world for Aston Villa will help me realise that.

"When I told Martin Bain on Sunday that I wanted to leave, I did so with sadness. The Rangers supporters have been fantastic to me, but I am young and want to play at the highest level and I hope they will always welcome me back. I want to thank them for everything."

Stay tuned to www.avfc.co.uk for any developments

AVFC

Some Summer transfer news, but un-Milan related..


Would be a quite amazing signing for us.

Fiorentina fans may remember him from last years UEFA Cup semi final 2nd leg, where he turn up to the game as brick well and let nothing through.

If we're going to sign Ivanovic on loan then I hope an option to buy him for a stated price is included in his contract since Chelsea's management are a bunch of pirates. as soon as Ivanovic plays well for us, they'll do a Crespo to us when his loan deal runs out.

Crespo was partly our fault also. We decided not to go ahead with the negotiations to buy him and instead went for Gila...

If we're going to sign Ivanovic on loan then I hope an option to buy him for a stated price is included in his contract since Chelsea's management are a bunch of pirates. as soon as Ivanovic plays well for us, they'll do a Crespo to us when his loan deal runs out.

Personally, I don't care if its 10 or 50 ... It's not coming out of my pocket anyways

Me neither I'm worried about Galliani saying 'Chelsea demand too much, we can't have him' when his loan spell ends. I've got this feeling that he will turn out good...

Why Silva? Why not an ITALIAN?

Why Silva? Why not an ITALIAN?

There arent that many good Italian defenders like it used to be.

There are!But big Italian clubs doesn't expect to them.Like Barzagli and Zaccardo,both of them transferred to Germany.

I think there are many great Italian defenders even today but I don't think Barzagli or Zaccardo are examples of that.