kurtsimonw
May 26 2008, 02:12 AM
In fairness, Belletti did score his penalty!

The best thing that can happen for Chelsea is Drogba to leave and Sheva to play more. Drogba goes missing too often, he has great games like against Liverpool in the semi, but where was he in the EPL this season? 8 goals, what a joke! Even Lampard scored more than him, and he missed 18 games in the league through injury!
armiss
May 26 2008, 08:47 AM
OMG controcampo said that we are looking for Mancini from Rome
another nightmare is coming ! this would be very better that they buy a whole squad of a Serie B team and make us happy than link us to these names as TOP players !!
Zed.D
May 26 2008, 09:12 AM

Please...!! Borriello and now Mancini??
dst
May 26 2008, 11:16 AM
If we really want Mancini then **** it!
If this is just the newspapers linking us with him then you understand where we're at...
Tennie
May 26 2008, 11:34 AM
Hrm. New rumor. According to Le Parisien, Milan are interested in Manchester United left back Patrice Evra.
whoarethepatriots
May 26 2008, 11:37 AM
In Sammarco related news the bosses are keen to get rid of Emo and Brocchi to make way for him. A brilliant step in the right direction for me
Sammarco himself said he would rather stay another year with Samp, but wouldnt resist a move back home
Rossoneri7
May 26 2008, 11:48 AM
The transfer window isn't even open yet ... Everything is being thrown around. Even a 'Drogba+Carvalho+cash=Kaka' BS .. What are you gonna comprehend and what are you gonna let loose ?!
The thing is, you guys need to ease off a bit and enjoy the summer

... Borriello, Mancini, Flamini, Shevchenko (there might be more, there might not be a Mancin, still ..) etc; these guys would just add the much needed depth to the squad. As for BIG name signings, Zambrotta, Ronaldinho, etc ... They will come through, it's just that it's too early.
All I know is that Gilardino will be replaced with a world class striker and a really good center back will be brought in. And if Dida leaves, there will be a replacement. Now who will those replacements be, the club must evaluate, and such things rarely happen overnight.
dst
May 26 2008, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ May 26 2008, 01:37 PM)
Sammarco himself said he would rather stay another year with Samp,
but would resist a move back home
you mean wouldn't!??
Jack Sparrow
May 26 2008, 12:36 PM
No he means...he would. If I were a young, upcoming mid-fielder, I'd certainly pick a team that didn't have Gatusso, Pirlo , Seedorf, Kaka and possibly R20. The idea is you want to stand out of a crowd for all the right reasons.
Tennie
May 26 2008, 01:03 PM
Oops. First misstep of the transfer window. It would seem that Hugo Lloris is about to sign a contract with Lyon. Someone screwed up.
Tennie
May 26 2008, 01:23 PM
So Braida gave an interview to a radio station in which he said that Eto'o is more useful to Milan than Ronaldinho. He also said that acquiring Eto'o would be harder as more money would be involved. Finally, he said that the Zambrotta deal is basically done and that it was only a matter of fixing the final price.
link to article on Sky sports. It reflects what the Italian articles are saying.
Not sure whether this is another gambit to get Barca to lower their price for Ronaldinho or not.
arivanjj
May 26 2008, 01:24 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 26 2008, 10:03 PM)
Oops. First misstep of the transfer window. It would seem that Hugo Lloris is about to sign a contract with Lyon. Someone screwed up.
great... let the transfers begin... and Milan watch.
Fillipo Simone
May 26 2008, 01:37 PM
The interesting thing about our transfers is that although we had 2 years of (a serious) transfer-silenzio we still keep bringing up comments like
no way in Milan,
he is shite,
not Milan-class, etc. (me included sometimes)
I get it, we all want only the best players to be here and defend our colours. But isn't that a bit out of the picture by now? We easily say no to Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Drogba, Mancini, Shevchenko and probably every name someone could bring up. Everytime we bring up a new name, there's like 1/2 of the people here yelling NO. In fact, IMO - all those players are very good and would eventually be an enrichment and supplement to our current squad. But what's the deal? Is there any player in Europe we could all agree for a concensus? Any player that transfer would be supported by 80% of us? Hmh,..
R7 made a good point - he separated 2 missions: a) getting the world class players who bring the flavour and make the core and

the additional players for rotation and depth (like Flamini); maybe even c) the kind of player that would give us security in Serie A.
That's why I think we could use Shevchenko or Mancini. They are tested in Serie A and that is what we need most - players who won't wait to adapt; players who can easily start again from where they stopped last season. Cause after all, there's no CL next season and the best thing that could happen to us is a solid early league start that would ensure us between 1st and 4th place.
Fillipo Simone
May 26 2008, 01:49 PM
QUOTE
Milan To Sell Emerson & Brocchi
AC Milan have put both Emerson and Christian Brocchi up for sale, according to Controcampo.»
Both midfielders have received heavy criticism this season, with their detractors claiming that they were not up to the task of filling in for first team stars such as Andrea Pirlo, Gennaro Gattuso and Massimo Ambrosini.
Emerson only signed for the Rossoneri from Real Madrid last summer, however he has been a huge flop, playing just 15 Serie A games, and starting just six of these.
Brocchi meanwhile made 24 league appearances, 10 of these from the start, but like his team-mate he has also failed to impress.
Controcampo says that the two midfielders, both 32, have been put up for sale, and their place in the Milan squad will be partly filled by the return to the club of Sampdoria youngster Paolo Sammarco.
Brocchi has been linked with a move back to Fiorentina, where he excelled while on loan in 2005/06. So far there have been no takers for Emerson, who has also struggled badly with injuries this past campaign.
I'm for Brocchi exiting but I'd rather we keep Emerson. You never know when there's a extra DM needed...
whoarethepatriots
May 26 2008, 02:19 PM
QUOTE (dst @ May 26 2008, 11:27 AM)
you mean wouldn't!??

Yeah sorry typo
Edit: FFS we cant afford to miss out on Lloris
kurtsimonw
May 26 2008, 03:31 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if this was our squad come the end of summer
GK: Kalac & Fiori - Kalac will be told he can start for the good job he did in the 2nd half of last season.
DF: Oddo, Bonera, Simic, Nesta, Kaladze, Maldini, Favalli, Jankulovski, Zambrotta, Grimi. - That's 10 defenders, Galliani will say we're more than covered at the back, only Zambrotta coming in.
MF: Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Flamini, Gourcuff, Brocchi/Emerson (I believe only 1 will leave), Sammarco, Kaka' - Flamini was great for Arsenal last season, we don't need anymore midfielders, that why we can afford to sell one.
FW: Pato, Sheva, Boriello, Inzaghi, Ronaldo, Paloschi. - 6 strikers is enough. Will give us the chance to loan Paloschi out and we'd still have 4 fit strikers, even with R9 injured. Pato is like a new signing as it's his first full season, Boriello is like a new signing and did well last season, Sheva IS a new signing, out big signing of the season. Inzaghi showed that he's still World class at the end of last season, then we have R9 in January who will be like our January purchase, why would we need anyone else?
Tennie
May 26 2008, 03:40 PM
^^ Gosh. Lots of pessimism. The market hasn't even officially opened yet!
FWIW, I really doubt Grimi will return. He seems happy enough in Lisbon and it sounds as if Sporting want to keep him. As for homegrown talent, we might see Marzoratti return or see Darmian/Bruscagin bumped up from the Primavera. Not sure if Albertazzi is still considered too young (he's 17) but he's an option too.
I also expect more than just Sammarco and Borriello to show up in the first team from former Primavera players. Not sure who it'll be but I believe there'll be 1-2 more than that (this is where we get part of the depth for the league that Fillipo's talking about).
As for the traitor (sorry, I know alot of you like him, but I...don't, after what he did), I'd rather not see him in a Milan jersey again but we'll see. There could be worse fates.
kurtsimonw
May 26 2008, 03:44 PM
If we don't make at least 5 or 6 more very good transfers on top of what I put, then we'll be going nowhere in my opinion.
CrazyMilanFan
May 26 2008, 03:56 PM
man lloris going to lyon that is a dissapointment
nuh
May 26 2008, 04:10 PM
we need to buy : zambrotta, lloris,eto,boriello,sagnol,canani and zapata and we are done for this year (and if emerson were to leave then bring in semarco)
Fillipo Simone
May 26 2008, 04:26 PM
Now that isn't a bad idea - Sagnol will be free. That's ideal Milan or Juve stuff..
Habitant
May 26 2008, 04:29 PM
is this true what i'm hearing about lloris? sooo typical of milan

this has happened countless times over the past 2 years
Fillipo Simone
May 26 2008, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 26 2008, 04:29 PM)
is this true what i'm hearing about lloris? sooo typical of milan

this has happened countless times over the past 2 years

C'mmon, it's not like we've lost Buffon. Maybe we got a deal with Coupet? Or someone better. But nothing's official yet, so take it easy..
Portman
May 26 2008, 04:50 PM
Braida just said Eto'o would be more useful for Milan than Ronaldinho and that our interest in him is real.
5 days ago Galliani said Eto'o is not our target.
Geez.
dst
May 26 2008, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 26 2008, 06:29 PM)
is this true what i'm hearing about lloris? sooo typical of milan

Probably Gourcuff told him how much Carletto likes the French...
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 26 2008, 06:36 PM)
C'mmon, it's not like we've lost Buffon.
You should not have gone there... unfortunately we did lose Buffon...

(according to Berlusconi)
kurtsimonw
May 26 2008, 04:55 PM
I think it's about time we had a bit of a reshuffle at the top. It's not good enough anymore. To begin with it was just annoying, now it's becoming pathetic and something you'd expect at a circus.
Habitant
May 26 2008, 04:58 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 26 2008, 03:36 PM)
C'mmon, it's not like we've lost Buffon. Maybe we got a deal with Coupet? Or someone better. But nothing's official yet, so take it easy..
no we already did that last season...thing is we need these types of young propects if we are going to rebuild.
the point is we struggle to finalize the smallest of deals... this is getting pathetic. and it's not because we're not after players, we are getting owned on the transfer market.
coupet? the guy is 35.
morgoth
May 26 2008, 05:00 PM
After Zaccardo, Barzagli will probably end up in Germany too (Wolfsburg). He's been offered a 3M€/year contract (Fiorentina gave him the half).
And Deschamps is linked with Chelsea. It would be very good for them.
kurtsimonw
May 26 2008, 05:05 PM
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 26 2008, 03:58 PM)
the point is we struggle to finalize the smallest of deals... this is getting pathetic. and it's not because we're not after players, we are getting owned on the transfer market.
You're right. Obviously Champions League football plays a bigger part in transfers than Galliani first thought.
Tennie
May 26 2008, 05:07 PM
The transfer market isn't officially opened and none of the rumors have yet been made official yet. I don't think there's a reason to worry just yet.
Habitant
May 26 2008, 05:10 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 26 2008, 04:05 PM)
You're right. Obviously Champions League football plays a bigger part in transfers than Galliani first thought.
thats the frustrating part...this would not have been a problem had we made proper signings last summer when we had CL football and certain players were available.
Tennie
May 26 2008, 05:15 PM
I agree with you there. Can't tell you how many times I've wished that Berlusconi hadn't vetoed the Ribery transfer, for example.
morgoth
May 26 2008, 05:18 PM
Ribery is nothing. Next year his performances will drop heavily in the Bundesliga. He did the same thing in Turkey and France, he impressed for his first year and then laid back and stopped performing ...
Habitant
May 26 2008, 05:31 PM
QUOTE (morgoth @ May 26 2008, 04:18 PM)
Ribery is nothing. Next year his performances will drop heavily in the Bundesliga. He did the same thing in Turkey and France, he impressed for his first year and then laid back and stopped performing ...
still i'd take him any day. he's still considerably young.
Fillipo Simone
May 26 2008, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 26 2008, 04:58 PM)
no we already did that last season...thing is we need these types of young propects if we are going to rebuild.
the point is we struggle to finalize the smallest of deals... this is getting pathetic. and it's not because we're not after players, we are getting owned on the transfer market.
coupet? the guy is 35.
No, we don't need a young keeper, that's why we have our primaveras. We need a quality first keeper, and Lloris would be a gamble.
QUOTE
The transfer market isn't officially opened and none of the rumors have yet been made official yet. I don't think there's a reason to worry just yet.
Exactly. Why all the talk about not finishing up the small deals when the window's still aren't open? And we did secure Flamini and Zambro, haven't we? Well, that's something to start from...
Habitant
May 26 2008, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 26 2008, 04:47 PM)
No, we don't need a young keeper, that's why we have our primaveras. We need a quality first keeper, and Lloris would be a gamble.
Exactly. Why all the talk about not finishing up the small deals when the window's still aren't open? And we did secure Flamini and Zambro, haven't we? Well, that's something to start from...
right now we need we a decent keeper, period. i dont care if he's young or middle aged, as long as we have someone for long term and not another quick fix like milan has done recently. i mean would it be the end of the world to have a young keeper? it's not like kalac is any better, he's had plenty of blunders and so did dida. it's not like experience always makes a difference.
sorry to say we dont have any primaveras that could join the first team and make an impact, but there are plenty of young prospects out there that could.
anyways it's not so much the finishing deals off but more other clubs swooping in at the last minute and stealing our transfers, it's getting tiring.
Portman
May 26 2008, 06:28 PM
If the Amantino Mancini deal is an exchange with Borriello, then... it will be lovely.
I always liked Mancini. He can be useful as he can play in almost every single place in the attack.
Bluesummers
May 26 2008, 06:32 PM
IF we lose Lloris that would be very bad. Coupet would be a very stupid transfer.
There is still other keepers on the market though,
amelia
akinfeev
ochoa
in terms of keepers we can target.
there is
hildebrand
enke
....
jefri91
May 26 2008, 06:35 PM
lol its so funny thay we think we know so much about football
"If we buy ... we will win every single competition there is to win"
I think we should just calm down and let the big kids do their job
Bluesummers
May 26 2008, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (jefri91 @ May 26 2008, 11:35 AM)
lol its so funny thay we think we know so much about football
"If we buy ... we will win every single competition there is to win"
I think we should just calm down and let the
bald kids do their job

fixd.
Rossoneri7
May 26 2008, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (jefri91 @ May 26 2008, 08:35 PM)
lol its so funny thay we think we know so much about football
"If we buy ... we will win every single competition there is to win"
I think we should just calm down and let the big kids do their job

Tennie
May 26 2008, 07:45 PM
Time for a new one since it seems Zambrotta will come.

BRING US ADLER!
Okay, realistically I know it's a long shot but he has been and continues to be my first pick for keeper if we get someone young. And it's NOT just because he's cute. This guy's really really good. I doubt Leverkusen would let him go easily, though.
LaPalma
May 26 2008, 08:28 PM
Yap. It's very unlikely to sign him. He has signed a new contract with Leverkusen just half a year ago. Plus Leverkusen want to build a team that can compete for the Meisterschaft. And for that they need the (atm second, Lehmann is slightly better) best German goalie.
morgoth
May 26 2008, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (Habitant @ May 26 2008, 05:31 PM)
still i'd take him any day. he's still considerably young.
I'd rather we bring back Foggia than buying Ribery. He's young and a youth product, but since Carlo is staying another 2 years we won't use any wingers

Oh and about Lloris I think if Lyon are making him their number one, it means a lot about his quality in my opinion ... anyway we'll have the chance to see him perform next year ... in the CL!
LaPalma
May 26 2008, 08:52 PM
One must give Ribery credit. I can't stand him or his team (the latter I really hate) but he's been amazing. He scored 11 goals which is wworth even more considering Bayerns midfield isn't the best and he lacks support.
morgoth
May 26 2008, 09:21 PM
QUOTE (LaPalma @ May 26 2008, 08:52 PM)
One must give Ribery credit. I can't stand him or his team (the latter I really hate) but he's been amazing. He scored 11 goals which is wworth even more considering Bayerns midfield isn't the best and he lacks support.
Sure, he's been great for his team this season and deserves the credit. Don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that next year he'll probably perform less, exactly like he did at Marseille, of course I could be wrong but only time can tell ...
whoarethepatriots
May 26 2008, 10:14 PM
If we are going to bring in a winger we should be looking at Abate, he has been very impressive for Italy recently
Tennie
May 26 2008, 10:24 PM
^^ +1
What whoearthepatriots said. Abate has REALLY impressed me.
morgoth
May 26 2008, 10:59 PM
From what I was of him, I think he's great pace but no particular dribbling or crossing skills and for a winger it's more than necessary, but I saw only one match so I can't really have an opinion about him ...
aLbErTo
May 26 2008, 11:03 PM
i'm sorry we've sold oli...he deserved another chance, with all the problems he had at milan (in that time...)
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