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dst
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Mar 28 2008, 12:25 AM)
if i were Sensi,i would swap him with Gila plus cash,with cash i would sign Cigarini and everyone is happy.
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Hey paloschi43 are you by any chance Italian?
paloschi43
yeah i come from Bologna.
dst
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Mar 28 2008, 12:56 AM)
yeah i come from Bologna.
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Nice! smile.gif And you live in Bologna? Can you give us any info about Di Gennaro?
Tennie
Ciao Paloschi43!

Bologna is a great city - amazing food!

Do you go to any of the Bologna games? They're doing quite well in Serie B this year. If you did, did you get a chance to see Albertazzi play before he moved to Milan? He's supposed to be very promising.
dst
I think paloschi43 is the first Italian in milanfan!! king.gif king.gif
paloschi43
Off course i did.

Regarding Di Gennaro,Di Gennaro is really a great talent,thats what all Bologna players said in summer camp last summer,he played in all games in summer camp but whenever the season started,Arrigoni(Bologna coach) changed formation,4-3-1-2,he really plays very defensive football with 3 DM,as Trequartista he plays Bombardini and Adailton over Di Gennaro.above all,Bologna was wrong team for young players,same Bologna send home grown paonessa away as he wouldnt find more playing time than Di Gennaro,considering DiGe was better player than paonessa.Coach+Formation+Bologna's immediate Serie A will limited Di Gennaro's chances,despite that factors,he got chances and however did his maximum during that games and managed to score 2 goals.

i would give an example about the coach,Di Gennaro was about to start 2 weeks ago in first 11 but in the last time he played Adailton over him,then Adailton scored a goal,then the coach tried to defend the score from defensive bench players,he didnt use Di Gennaro for the last 2 games as Bologna got score advantage in these games,if Bologna didnt get the score advantage Di Gennaro would be first that he would play from the bench.

He changed formation to 4-2-3-1 as Di Gennaro on left but didnt work though Di Gennaro did well.

Di Gennaro should be loaned to a club like Empoli,as they are good place for Young players unlike Bologna,Di Gennaro is not ready for Milan,as he didnt mature enough for Milan.

He is really a rare talent,everyone says it,starts from Evani to Arrigoni.

Latelyn Arrigoni plays 4-4-2 with 4 Midfielder who can defend as well,Di Gennaro has 4 rivals for one spot,Bucchi,Adailton,Fava and Bombardini consideirng Marazzina's place quarented thanks to his amazing form this year.

Albertazzi?just seen 1 times during a friendly,off course great talent.
maldini03
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 27 2008, 04:36 AM)
Wow, the rumors are flying thick and fast today.

The new one is the possibility of a swap between Milan and Roma. Gila to Roma in exchange for Aquilani.
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Hmm i would love this trade but i have a slight preference of Cigarini over Aquiliani and i would also perfer Montolivo. Agree to Disagree sorry tongue.gif
Tennie
Wow. Thanks for the insight about Bologna, Paloschi43!

We rarely (in the US) get anything other than brief Serie B highlights; I have to rely on match reports and news articles to know how teams are doing. It's interesting to know how Arrigoni plays his team - even if it's unfortunate for Di Gennaro's maturation. Maybe he'll go somewhere else next year.
Jack Sparrow
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It's interesting to know how Arrigoni plays his team - even if it's unfortunate for Di Gennaro's maturation. Maybe he'll go somewhere else next year.


i kinda speed read it as something else and had to re-read coz I was wondering why he'd need a coach for it. I gotta get my mind out of the gutter. wink.gif
KingKaka
Benzema, Quaresma, Huntelaar, Modric, Gomez, Daniel Alves, Essein, Flamini, Deigo, Luis Fabiano, zambrotta,cigarini, Hernanes, Barzagli, Pasqual, drogba, Zapata, Berbatov, Montolivo , Luca toni, Lucio, Veloso, amauri, baptista, Drenthe, grosso,aquiliani, ben arfa.............


if we dont at least sign 3 of these names in the summer im going to crap out ona plate then eat it while i laugh and cry at the same time in the confussion of the moment......... blink.gif
paloschi43
Genoa's president declared that Borriello is worth 20 m euros,so we have to pay 10 m euros for him.

According to Today's La Gazzetta dello sport(newspaper edition) Milan after blocking Zambrotta contacts with Barcelona again for Samuel Eto'o.

also They claims Mexes-Gila could occur as Romanistas believes They could find his replacement in Lucio.

Also considering Mexes has a 15 m euros clause on his contract,it means we are in loss of 9 m euros(as Gila was bought for 24 m euros)

by the way,Marko Van Basten asked for Gourcuff for his ajax.
paloschi43
Juve is after Vargas as they are in market for a LB.


in all swaps Gila is important,i really wonder which team he will go for a swap,Frey-Fiorentina,Mexes-Roma,Aquilani Roma.

but i would rather to se us paying 15 m euros clauses of Mexes and swap Gila with the half of Aquialani.it seems Gila has a 15 m euros value.
armiss
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 28 2008, 03:49 AM)
I think paloschi43 is the first Italian in milanfan!! king.gif  king.gif
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armiss
QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Mar 28 2008, 03:33 PM)
Genoa's president declared that Borriello is worth 20 m euros,so we have to pay 10 m euros for him.

According to Today's La Gazzetta dello sport(newspaper edition) Milan after blocking Zambrotta contacts with Barcelona again for Samuel Eto'o.

also They claims Mexes-Gila could occur as Romanistas believes They could find his replacement in Lucio.

Also considering Mexes has a 15 m euros clause on his contract,it means we are in loss of 9 m euros(as Gila was bought for 24 m euros)

by the way,Marko Van Basten asked for Gourcuff for his ajax.
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For me :

Goucuff in AJax on loan ! OK
Zambrotta & Eto'o OK
Mexes Ok


if this happen i will be very glad
m1ke
Thanks for the updates Paloschi king.gif

A Mexes - Nesta partnership would be amazing. I also agree with armisse - let Gourcuff spend a season on loan at Ajax to try and rediscover his confidence.
Jack Sparrow
^^^

That still doesn't help us. We need a CM, a SS and a LB.

People leaving does not help.

Montolivo? Nope
Aquilani? I really don't think so
Cigarini/Dessena? The only two people we can hope to land. I doubt we'll try.

I just don't see how we can keep focussing on our strikers forgetting that our mid-field and wings is where we're losing out.

It's not like our strikers are getting a 100 shots on goal every match...
paloschi43
i think Eto'o is unlikely as he many times declared he wouldnt leave Spain,also considering He doesnt cost less than 50 m euros,we could sign Benzema with this money,also considering he declared Milan is his dream club.

We need 2 Side back,as Zambrotta is not enough considering the injuries and fitness problems of him,Pasqual or Vargas is needed,even Antonini is welcomed,better than Favalli at least.

============Lloris==========================
Oddo======Nesta==========Mexes=======Zambrotta=
======Gattuso/Flamini===Pirlo=======Aquilani=======
================Kaka======================
=======Pato============Benzema==============

Lloris 7 m euros
Mexes 15 m euros
Zambrotta+7 m euros
Aquilani (Gila swap)
Benzema 40-45 m euros
Nasri (Gourcuff+money)
Borriello
Antonini

maximum 8 players.

OUT
Dida
Cafu
Serginho
Favalli
Brocchi
Emerson
Gourcuff
Ba
Digao
Gilardino
Ronaldo
Oliveira
KillerMax
QUOTE (m1ke @ Mar 28 2008, 05:37 AM)
A Mexes - Nesta partnership would be amazing.
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I don't think so. I believe A Nesta Stam(when he was a bit younger of course) partnership would be more ideal. Nesta and Mexes are way too similar. Nesta and Maldini work for two reasons:

1) Maldini is naturally a LB, is good at attacking. He adds the needed edge and dimension to Nesta's purely defensive tactics.

2) Maldini is God

Just as Gattuso - Brocchi doesn't work

Just as Pippo - Gilardino doesn't work

Nesta and Mexes won't quite work as expected.
KillerMax
I would make 5 transfers, with two of them being world class players. That with the addition of more youth players such as Darmian, Paloschi and some other ones who will re-join us from loan will be more than enough.

Also, some players will need to be shown the door, of course, for motivation and psychology boost.
redbabies
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Milan Linked With Mexes – Gila Swap

AC Milan are hoping to sign Roma star Philippe Mexes in an exchange deal involving Alberto Gilardino, according to the Gazzetta dello Sport.

The Rossoneri have long been admirers of Mexes, who has established himself as one of the best centre backs in Serie A. 

The Gazzetta says that Milan are willing to hand over Alberto Gilardino as part of the deal to sign Mexes. 

Gilardino's future at San Siro has been in huge doubt for quite some time now following a third disappointing season for the Rossoneri since his big-money move from Parma in 2005.   

Yesterday the striker’s agent admitted that he would welcome a move to Roma. 

"Certainly to play with Totti would please everyone,” Giovanni Bia told Radio Kiss Kiss. 

“Alberto is a footballer who plays for the team. His future will be discussed in June. Currently Alberto has a contract with the Rossonero club. Later on we will decide what to do.”   

Roma have identified a penalty box striker with Gilardino’s characteristics as their primary summer transfer target, but it remains to be seen if they would be willing to let such an influential player as Mexes leave.
redbabies
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 28 2008, 02:25 PM)
I don't think so. I believe A Nesta Stam(when he was a bit younger of course) partnership would be more ideal. Nesta and Mexes are way too similar. Nesta and Maldini work for two reasons:

1) Maldini is naturally a LB, is good at attacking. He adds the needed edge and dimension to Nesta's purely defensive tactics.

2) Maldini is God

Just as Gattuso - Brocchi doesn't work

Just as Pippo - Gilardino doesn't work

Nesta and Mexes won't quite work as expected.

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Strikers and Midfielders are different from Defenders.

I agree with you that Pippo-Gila or Gattuso-Brochi doens't work, but Nesta-Mexes is totally smth else.

They have similiar characteristics, but that doens't mean they'll fail. That probably means they'd actually succed.

Rio-Vidic are also similar in a lot of aspects, but is working perfectly.


Here the problem is that we aren't signing Mexes at all smile.gif
Tennie
I wouldn't mind Mexes, though to be honest I'd probably prefer Chiellini (though that's not realistic as I doubt the Zebras would let him go) or Barzagli (possibly slightly more realistic, but Palermo's Zamparini is a nutcase).
Portman
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Galliani: "Scambio Gila-Mexes? Vedremo"

Adriano Galliani non nega l'ipotesi che Milan e Roma possano perfezionare per la prossima stagione uno scambio alla pari Gilardino-Mexes. Interpellato da alcuni cronisti in merito alle voci, Galliani si è abbandonato ad un eloquente sorriso ed ha laconicamente commentato: "Vedremo".

Fonte: Alice Sport


Galliani about the Gilardino-Mexes swap: "We'll see."
KillerMax
He means: We'll see if can reach 4th place.
Portman


Joke of the week: Milan interested in Eto'o (as some said before, it is on Gazzetta today).

Ronaldinho and Eto'o leaving Catalonia in the same Summer? As much I like Eto'o's goatee I think it's pathetic news from Gazzetta. Probably Galliani is already looking for season-tickets like last Summer...
Darunia
Mexes would be a good signing, they can have Gilardino. Mexes-Nesta would work, plus Nesta is 32 so he's not going to be around forever.
sansiro1708
i rather have barzagli than mexes
dst
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 28 2008, 06:09 AM)
i kinda speed read it as something else and had to re-read coz I was wondering why he'd need a coach for it. I gotta get my mind out of the gutter. wink.gif
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rolleyes.gif Captain... behave! Stop watching Hentai...

QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Mar 28 2008, 01:03 PM)
Genoa's president declared that Borriello is worth 20 m euros,so we have to pay 10 m euros for him.

According to Today's La Gazzetta dello sport(newspaper edition) Milan after blocking Zambrotta contacts with Barcelona again for Samuel Eto'o.

also They claims Mexes-Gila could occur as Romanistas believes They could find his replacement in Lucio.

Also considering Mexes has a 15 m euros clause on his contract,it means we are in loss of 9 m euros(as Gila was bought for 24 m euros)

by the way,Marko Van Basten asked for Gourcuff for his ajax.
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Paloschi43 than you very much for all the info man!!!!!! smile.gif About the Di Gennaro info too!

Milan blocked Zambrotta's move? huh.gif

Gourcuff at Ajax would be great! No, better, it would be ideal!! smile.gif

QUOTE (paloschi43 @ Mar 28 2008, 01:04 PM)
Frey-Fiorentina
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I don't think Fiorentina need a forward (who I don't think is so desperate to join Milan) to swap a very good goalkeeper with Gila.

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 28 2008, 03:25 PM)
2) Maldini is God
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laugh.gif I think Nesta - Mexes would work just fine! But I'd rather see Nesta - Barzagli! The French is amazing but quite often he has some bad games. Barzagli is not at Nesta's level but he is solid and together with Nesta I think they'd make a great pair!! king.gif

It all depends on how much Palermo would ask for Barzagli. Zamparini is crazy, he might opt not to sell at all to Milan... if they ask as Roma ask for Mexes then I think we should go for the French, no second thought! But if the price is reasonable then we should get Barzagli and swap Gila with Aquilani cause Roma are not crazy to strengthen us with both Mexes and Aquilani... Lucio was mentioned, I think he is a great defender, he and Juan would be great!

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 28 2008, 04:49 PM)
Galliani about the Gilardino-Mexes swap: "We'll see."
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QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 28 2008, 05:17 PM)
Probably Galliani is already looking for season-tickets like last Summer...
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whoarethepatriots
I have been thinking about this for a while, the thought is the purchase of Giuseppe Rossi from Villareal

Before you crucify me, hear me out.

He has plenty of characteristics which we need or lack and to me he seems like and ideal partner to Pato.

20 years of age, with brilliant techinque, an eye for goal, good passing, excellent dribbler and finisher, so whats not to like?

The only drawback is his average heading and fairly short size, and the fact he isnt a pure CF, more like a Pato style striker. He is fairly quick and he and Pato seem like ideal foils for each other

(Some youtube clips to stress the importance)

U21 goal vs Czech's - Long range placed drive from tight angle

Goal for Parma vs Torino

Sly backheel goal for Villareal vs Racing

Lob for Villareal vs A.Madrid
Tennie
Hey, I like Rossi. smile.gif Wouldn't mind seeing him at Milan at all, though he's not the 'strong' center forward Milan are supposedly looking for.
dst
I think this season we need a world-class forward and creative midfielder as well as a good CB and young quality subs! It's not regular transfer activity but it's far from being a revolution!

I think if we do this then next season we'll be great! BUT, next summer the priority will be to find two great fullbacks! The Milan with Cafu and Serginho cannot be compared to the current one... If we do this then we'll be unstoppable!

But I guess it will only remain a dream... sleep.gif
aLbErTo
we're "apparently" looking over Stipe Pletikosa, Croatian national gk, plays for Spartak Moscow (shakhtar before that)...
milanisti
we should buy these players : Boruc , Pasqual , Mexes , Flamini and Benzema or Berbatov!!my opinion
KillerMax
If we buy 5 players from this list, we will be more than capable of challenging Inter, even with Mourinho and Drogba...:

Huntelaar
Gomez
Diego
Deco
Van Der Vaart
Aquilani
Thiago Neves
Hernanes
Alves
Zambrotta
Barzagli
Lucio
Amelia
Adler

I would pick:

Amelia
Barzagli
Alves
Thiago Neves
Gomez


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Offredi
Darmian
Antonelli
Di Gennaro
Oliveira/ Boriello
Paloschi


-

Dida
Fiori
Simic
Favalli
Serginho
Brocchi
Ba
Gourcuff
Gilardino



Final Team:

GK: Amelia, Kalac, Offredi
Defense: Nesta, Maldini, Barzagli, Bonera, Kaladze, Darmian, Alves, Oddo, Jankulovski, Cafu, Antonelli
Midfield: Kaka, Seedorf, Thiago Neves, Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Emerson, Di Gennaro
Attack: Pato, Gomez, Paloschi, Inzaghi, Boriello, Ronaldo

Estimated incoming players' cost: 80-90 Million Euros

Estimated outgoing players' worth: 30-35 Million Euros

Subtracted total estimation= 50-55 Million Euros

Give or take, it sounds like a good plan. The 5 players will add a lot of quality to the side and the youth players will give us much needed depth. We will be very competitive with this kind of squad.

The only weak spot would be our LB position with only Janulovski and Antonelli + the occasional Maldini. I would have liked to have picked Zambrotta, but I gotta problem with him. He is going to be 32 next season. He has injury problems and obviously for us, motivation and ambition is a big problem. I'd rather have a somewhat thin LB than have another old, slow and injury-prone player who's best days are past him in the squad. Plus, Alves would friggin set Serie A on fire and would provide amazing crosses for Gomez and our other attackers.

I do believe something smilar, but less extravagant will happen during the summer transfer window. We'll see.
Darunia
Alves won't be as good in Serie A as he is in La Liga, i'm not sure how the tactical game suits him. Milan doesn't play wide open football like Sevilla. That being said, I would love him at Milan, he just won't be as good as he is at Sevilla.

I don't think we should get Di Gennaro, if Gourcuff can't get playing time then Di Gennaro won't. He should be loaned out to another club to develop.
sansiro1708
please don silvio get HUNTELAAR!
Bluesummers
good list max but most of those probably won't happen. We'll get a goalie defender and a striker, thats probably it.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 28 2008, 11:53 PM)
I don't think we should get Di Gennaro, if Gourcuff can't get playing time then Di Gennaro won't.  He should be loaned out to another club to develop.
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Then someone else must come it. Gourcuff is Ancelotti's failure. He prefers to play with 3 defensive midfielders in order not to play him. We either need to part ways with Ancelotti, or bring in someone who Ancelotti trusts enough to field.
paloschi43
Gourcuff's himself is a failure not Ancelotti's,at first everyone was mad at Carlo for Gourcuff then everyone understood why Carlo doesnt play him.

Di Gennaro is better player than Gourcuff if you ask me,but he still feels the pressure and not matured enough for Milan this is why,i want Milan him to loan a club like Siena or Empoli which are giving importance to young players.

i even would be happy with a mercato like this,

Lloris
Zambrotta
Antonini
Flamini
Mexes
Aquilani
Jo(or Benzema/Berbatov/Adebayor)

i doubt how ibra and Drogba can co-exist together,as ibra needs a partner like Pato and however also Drogba needs a partner like Pato as well.

Also considering Chealse wont let him go for less than 35 m euros,his high salaries around 9-10 m euros,in addition he is 30 already.i think Milan is cold on Drogba because of these factors.

Happy for Drogba,he will play for Canalis's team.
redbabies
Ibra-Drogba partnership is f@ckin scary mellow.gif

But in the league we dont need to have the best players in the world to become champions.

First of all, we need depth, and than some world-class signings. But still that doesn't mean that we have to compare to Inter. Since we'll face them twice in Seria A and thats all.

We need players that are ready to beat low-profile teams constantly, and of course be ready to beat Juve, Roma, Fiore...

So, dont think about Merda, I dont care about them.

Just think about it this way: Can Drogba and Mourinho (if they go to Inter) help other teams beat us? Hell NO.

I repeat they have only 2 matches for the wholes season and thats equal to 6 points, which is not that much when you compare to 114 possible points.

FORZA MILAN!
FORZA MILAN MANAGEMENT!
MAKE SIGNINGS!
WE NEED THEM!
Devillito
QUOTE (redbabies @ Mar 29 2008, 07:48 PM)
First of all, we need depth, and than some world-class signings. But still that doesn't mean that we have to compare to Inter. Since we'll face them twice in Seria A and thats all.

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I cannot stand the idea of losing to Merda anymore!! cry.gif
There's so many humiliation i can take, but this is not one of them.
All who oppose Milan must perish!!
Tennie
I still like Gomez from Stuttgart - he's been in scintillating form for both club and country and (which may tip the scales) he's likely to be an awful lot less expensive than anyone from England.

Those of you who follow stuff in Croatia -- what's the latest on where Luka Modric is likely to go? I still like him!
redbabies
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 29 2008, 12:54 PM)
I still like Gomez from Stuttgart - he's been in scintillating form for both club and country and (which may tip the scales) he's likely to be an awful lot less expensive than anyone from England.

Those of you who follow stuff in Croatia -- what's the latest on where Luka Modric is likely to go? I still like him!
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Gomez is a rising star. I agree with you that we need to invest on him.

I dont understand our management. If they fail to bring some top-class players this summer, I'm scared they'll loose fans. blink.gif
Portman
I'll prefer to wait until we have the UEFA Cup/CL confirmation before make any more comments about our Summer.
fahad
The press still saying sheva back on loan if we get sheva for example then will we sign another stiker or wait for R99?? that would be ridicilous
redbabies
@ Porty

Uefa Cup or Champions League we still need signings to fight for Seria A.

And TBH, I dont think it will affect that much our transfer campaign.

Only that there might be any player who might refuse us (but I doubt it) coz we play in Uefa Cup (far from it).

But still, Dinho signed for Barca when they weren't in Champions, than Ribery signed for Bayern when they were in Uefa Cup.

I want to say that, if we wanna sign, WE WILL SIGN!
m1ke
I think he meant that it may affect who we're able to get in the summer. Milan used to be the club famed for giving top players a real shot at winning the CL (only reason Ronaldo joined us in my opinion).

We haven't done particularly well in Serie A in recent years, and if we're in the Uefa Cup as well, I guess some players may think twice.
Portman
QUOTE (redbabies @ Mar 29 2008, 12:32 PM)
@ Porty

Uefa Cup or Champions League we still need signings to fight for Seria A.

And TBH, I dont think it will affect that much our transfer campaign.

Only that there might be any player who might refuse us (but I doubt it) coz we play in Uefa Cup (far from it).

But still, Dinho signed for Barca when they weren't in Champions, than Ribery signed for Bayern when they were in Uefa Cup.

I want to say that, if we wanna sign, WE WILL SIGN!
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Ibrahimovic didn't join us because we were playing the 3rd pre of CL. We didn't have CL confirmation... so he decided to join Inter. And we lost a world-class player. smile.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (redbabies @ Mar 29 2008, 12:32 PM)
But still, Dinho signed for Barca when they weren't in Champions, than Ribery signed for Bayern when they were in Uefa Cup.
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But which teams did these players leave? I believe PSG were a UEFA Cup team at the time, so all R10 was doing was swapping UEFA Cup for UEFA Cup, but playing on a better team. Same goes for Ribery, but he knew Bayern would return to the top quickly as they have alot less competition in the league than Milan do.
redbabies
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 29 2008, 03:28 PM)
Ibrahimovic didn't join us because we were playing the 3rd pre of CL. We didn't have CL confirmation... so he decided to join Inter. And we lost a world-class player.  smile.gif
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that was a different case.
at that time we had a chance of ending up in Serie B.
But still if our management wouldn't have other problems, and if they would really want him, they would sign him.

all I'm trying to say is that Milan were more concentrated on other issues rather than transfers, coz it wasn't the time to think about these things.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 29 2008, 05:18 PM)
But which teams did these players leave? I believe PSG were a UEFA Cup team at the time, so all R10 was doing was swapping UEFA Cup for UEFA Cup, but playing on a better team. Same goes for Ribery, but he knew Bayern would return to the top quickly as they have alot less competition in the league than Milan do.
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1. Which team would Gomez, Thiago Neves, Alves leave?
2. Dinho at that time believe it or not was so close to signing for Man Utd that he even went to Old Trafford, met with Ferguson, and was almost a Man Utd player.
But then Barca came with a better plan and I can assume offered more money, and the deal with Man Utd failed.

So, its not all about Uefa or Champions. Even though I hate to talk about Uefa since WE WILL NOT BE THERE! devilsmiley.gif
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