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Portman
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 25 2007, 03:58 PM)
Well at least he isn't telling the Barca fans that he would like to capitain Barca and be a legend biggrin.gif
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I don't know what to think right now. rolleyes.gif

Things are getting confused. Still 1 month and 6 days.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 06:03 PM)
I don't know what to think right now.  rolleyes.gif

Things are getting confused. Still 1 month and 6 days.
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Yeah .. I know what u mean ... Well, as u said, still 1 month to go smile.gif

We'll see how this whole affair ends
Warchant
*sigh*

Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jul 25 2007, 06:37 PM)
*sigh*


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Haha, I really want to post that around I think some will believe it tongue.gif
Zed.D
Officially over....
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 25 2007, 09:00 PM)
Officially over....
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laugh.gif I wish...
Portman
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 25 2007, 10:14 PM)
laugh.gif  I wish...
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Why? Isn't this amazing? This suspense around the thing. cool.gif Love it.
It's like... everyone waiting for Ronaldinho and in the end get a Fred or a Baptista. laugh.gif

Seriously, you don't like Ronaldinho or you just hate this transfers-speculation @Milan? I've noticed some "anti-Brazillian-pony-tricks" in your speech lately.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 09:23 PM)
Seriously, you don't like Ronaldinho or you just hate this transfers-speculation @Milan? I've noticed some "anti-Brazillian-pony-tricks" in your speech lately.
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There's numerous reasons:
  • The first being I really don't think we will sign him, I did a month or so ago but now I think there's little to no chance.
  • The amount of news articles that come out almost daily in the morning he's coming in the afternoon he's not and vice-versa.
  • If the rough estimation of the price is what we could pay for him, no ones worth it.
  • I've never been Ronaldinho's biggest fan, yes he's good but not as good as some say. I see him so many times do extravagant things that just go so badly wrong, the only reason he isn't punished is because of the likes of Puyol, Xavi, Marquez.
  • I can't believe people complain about C.Ronaldo's season and his tricks, yet seem to love it from the goofy Brazilian.
  • We have Kaka! The best attacking mid in the game at the moment why on earth do we need another one?
  • Money could be spent far better elsewhere in the team and just far better in general!
  • The moment things go wrong he seems disinterested, not a real fighter like our players, look how many times in Europe we did it Bayern, Manchester United, Celtic, Liverpool real battles and I think it was our players character that got us through as well as their obvious skill.
  • How cluttered did Brazil's midfield look in the World Cup with Kaka and Ronaldinho? A bit like England's Gerrard-Lampard saga
At the end of the day if it was released on acmilan.com that we have signed Ronaldinho for £30 mil I like most other Milan fans would be extremelly pleased, but the figures being branded around are outrageous.
Portman
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 25 2007, 11:22 PM)
[*]If the rough estimation of the price is what we could pay for him, no ones worth it.
[*]I've never been Ronaldinho's biggest fan, yes he's good but not as good as some say. I see him so many times do extravagant things that just go so badly wrong, the only reason he isn't punished is because of the likes of Puyol, Xavi, Marquez.
[*]I can't believe people complain about C.Ronaldo's season and his tricks, yet seem to love it from the goofy Brazilian.
[*]We have Kaka! The best attacking mid in the game at the moment why on earth do we need another one?
[*]Money could be spent far better elsewhere in the team and just far better in general!
[*]How cluttered did Brazil's midfield look in the World Cup with Kaka and Ronaldinho? A bit like England's Gerrard-Lampard saga

-Obviously no one is worth 125M/euros. But he is a world-class player: the best in the world along Kaka' IMHO. And if you want quality nowadays... you've to pay.

[And if we gave 25M for Gilardino... same for Oliveira... I believe Berlusconi would give 60 or 70 for 10R]

-Not as good as some say? Please. Look at the 2004/05 and 2005/06 season and tell me who was the world's best. By far.

-Cristiano Ronaldo is arrogant and play for a club that is full of arrogance in every ways. Arrogance FC. From Scholes to Rooney, from G.Neville to Smith. Plus... he's no way near Ronaldinho in tricks and pony-stuff. Even the likes of Zlatan or Robinho can do better freestyle than Ronaldo.

-We've Kaka'? Ronaldinho is a second-striker that can ALSO play as AM/LW. He'd be the ideal partner for Gilardino/Ronaldinho/Inzaghi [As we can't get Ibrahimovic, Totti, etc]. Oh and Kaka' is an AM who can play as SS too. Spot the difference?

-Yeah yeah yeah... with those 70M/euros we could buy Sneijder, Pato, Alex and Zambrotta. Sounds good? But it's up to Berlusconi. He won't do that and we all know.

-I shouldn't answer this. Parreira used the "magical square" with Ronaldo, Adriano, Kaka' and Ronaldinho with ONLY Emerson and Ze Roberto behind. That's suicide. Not even going to say why...
Ancelotti knows what he has to do. Way better than Parreira who was really stupid in that World Cup.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 10:44 PM)
-Cristiano Ronaldo is arrogant and play for a club that is full of arrogance in every ways. Arrogance FC. From Scholes to Rooney, from G.Neville to Smith. Plus... he's no way near Ronaldinho in tricks and pony-stuff. Even the likes of Zlatan or Robinho can do better freestyle than Ronaldo.

-Yeah yeah yeah... with those 70M/euros we could buy Sneijder, Pato, Alex and Zambrotta. Sounds good? But it's up to Berlusconi. He won't do that and we all know.
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So Ronaldinho isn't arrogant?! All the tricks he does to wind people up isn't arrogance?! Robinho haha dude you made a valid point until you mentioned that clown! To be honest arrogance to me means nothing because look at Gattuso! But we love him anyway king.gif

If only he would!
agenth
I've thought about it, and I don't think Ronaldinho is something for us.
It's because we already have Kaka. I don't think Kaka-Ronaldinho would work. I don't know but those two just CAN'T

so I think Eto'o is a much better option for us, and I think our chances with him would be higher than with Ronaldinho, since they recently added Henry, and they have too much Egos now.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 01:59 AM)
So Ronaldinho isn't arrogant?! All the tricks he does to wind people up isn't arrogance?!
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I think what he meant by arrogance is that, when United step on the field .. They already think they won the game, before it is even played .. The United players think they are gods gift to football ..

What Gattuso does isn't arrogance, in fact he shakes the hands of his rivals even after a game and accepts his defeat. Look at Ronaldo @ the San Siro, when Seedorf out dribbled him he went back and fouled Seedorf. That is arrogance IMO ..

And Ronaldinho ?! It isn't cuz he is the best player in the world at the moment with the ball at his foot .. But Milan has always been built with only the best that play in it .. I mean, Baptista, Cassano, Pato, Emerson, etc etc sure they will help the team in depth, but quality ?! I think we have better players than all the otehr options, after all we have Ronaldo king.gif What Berlusconi is looking for is to add quality to the team. Okay, I might be somewhat biased in the R10 - Milan soaps .. But still, he is a class player, one that would add to the team's strength. Just imagine, all we get is Ronaldinho for this summer. That means all of the "hyped up teams at the moment" would mean squat. Inter who ?! The Scudetto would be signed sealed and delivered along with the CL. That is how much I rate Ronaldinho. He got Barca a double, IMO he is still within his prime to do the same for us devilsmiley.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 25 2007, 11:59 PM)
So Ronaldinho isn't arrogant?! All the tricks he does to wind people up isn't arrogance?! Robinho haha dude you made a valid point until you mentioned that clown! To be honest arrogance to me means nothing because look at Gattuso! But we love him anyway  king.gif

If only he would!
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Well, Ronaldinho is arrogant but he doesn't come out to the press saying he's the 7th wonder of world. rolleyes.gif

Robinho? Do you know him? I mean, do you know he played futsal (indoor soccer, in English) before football? Do you know what Ginga means? Probably not.

Check out about the last 1/4 of the movie when he goes with Falcao (futsal-Brasil NT player) play some minutes:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/searc...ga-brasil_sport

But as you English (specially you, the ManUtd fans wink.gif ) all hate Madrid more than any other club in the world... I accept. biggrin.gif

Ronaldo doesn't have HALF of the tecnique Robinho has. Not even to compare with Ronaldinho...
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 25 2007, 11:35 PM)
What Gattuso does isn't arrogance, in fact he shakes the hands of his rivals even after a game and accepts his defeat. Look at Ronaldo @ the San Siro, when Seedorf out dribbled him he went back and fouled Seedorf. That is arrogance IMO ..

And Ronaldinho ?! It isn't cuz he is the best player in the world at the moment with the ball at his foot .. But Milan has always been built with only the best that play in it .. I mean, Baptista, Cassano, Pato, Emerson, etc etc sure they will help the team in depth, but quality ?! I think we have better players than all the otehr options, after all we have Ronaldo king.gif  What Berlusconi is looking for is to add quality to the team. Okay, I might be somewhat biased in the R10 - Milan soaps .. But still, he is a class player, one that would add to the team's strength. Just imagine, all we get is Ronaldinho for this summer. That means all of the "hyped up teams at the moment" would mean squat. Inter who ?! The Scudetto would be signed sealed and delivered along with the CL. That is how much I rate Ronaldinho. He got Barca a double, IMO he is still within his prime to do the same for us devilsmiley.gif
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Granted, but that's frustration in my opinion rather than arrogance. In fact Fergie was one of the only people in England to rate us everyone else said it would be out of the English 3 but Fergie before and after the Semi's said that we are a very good outfit.

Then why do we sign players like Oliveira, Vogel etc? The problem is you complain about arrogance then you go onto say we are going to win everything with Ronaldinho, I don't get it tongue.gif
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 11:39 PM)
But as you English (specially you, the ManUtd fans  wink.gif ) all hate Madrid more than any other club in the world... I accept.  biggrin.gif
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A Man United fan? Because I reckon Ronaldo's good oookkk you make no sense whatsoever with that pitiful statement... Madrid is actually the most followed foreign team in England we have every game broadcasted live however you wouldn't know because you don't actually live in England do you? wink.gif wink.gif

It's a bit silly really writing things like that which you blatantly have no idea about rolleyes.gif

As for this Ginga rubbish which I'm not meant to know most probably because I'm English, it's the Brazilian fancy stuff that Nike follow ...
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 02:43 AM)
Granted, but that's frustration in my opinion rather than arrogance. In fact Fergie was one of the only people in England to rate us everyone else said it would be out of the English 3 but Fergie before and after the Semi's said that we are a very good outfit.

Then why do we sign players like Oliveira, Vogel etc? The problem is you complain about arrogance then you go onto say we are going to win everything with Ronaldinho, I don't get it  tongue.gif
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Haha .. Yeah tongue.gif But I did warn you that I was biased in the Ronaldinho - Milan soaps biggrin.gif

Yeah .. I really liked Fergie's comments after our match .. Especially the one about the win bottle, and that he wont open it till WE lift the cup biggrin.gif

We sign Oliveira and Vogel to sit the bench I guess. Cuz they never proved enough quality to make the first team .. But that is just me smile.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 12:47 AM)
A Man United fan? Because I reckon Ronaldo's good oookkk you make no sense whatsoever with that pitiful statement... Madrid is actually the most followed foreign team in England we have every game broadcasted live however you wouldn't know because you don't actually live in England do you? wink.gif  wink.gif

It's a bit silly really writing things like that which you blatantly have no idea about  rolleyes.gif

As for this Ginga rubbish which I'm not meant to know most probably because I'm English, it's the Brazilian fancy stuff that Nike follow ...
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Actually I know many people from UK, specially from London + visited more than once that city. Don't think that I just know people from 25km around Porto. rolleyes.gif

As for the rest, I'll stop seriously. You got offended or so when I talked about Cristiano. The stupid thing right here is that I am the portuguese one.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 26 2007, 12:06 AM)
Actually I know many people from UK, specially from London + visited more than once that city. Don't think that I just know people from 25km around Porto. rolleyes.gif

As for the rest, I'll stop seriously. You got offended or so when I talked about Cristiano. The stupid thing right here is that I am the portuguese one.
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Then surely they wouldn't tell you that everyone hates Madrid tongue.gif There like on every weekend on our Sky channels seriously nearly every game including League, Cup and CL is shown live on Sky if not live they will have delayed coverage starting like an hour after kick-off!

I'm not getting offended about Cristiano! The thing to get offended about is being called a Man United fan, that's like me calling you an Inter fan tongue.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 26 2007, 02:39 AM)


WOW !!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

I have got to give it to the Brazilians, football is in bedded into their culture.
Portman
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 01:10 AM)
Then surely they wouldn't tell you that everyone hates Madrid  tongue.gif  There like on every weekend on our Sky channels seriously nearly every game including League, Cup and CL is shown live on Sky if not live they will have delayed coverage starting like an hour after kick-off!

I'm not getting offended about Cristiano! The thing to get offended about is being called a Man United fan, that's like me calling you an Inter fan  tongue.gif
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I didn't mean to say "ALL THE ENGLISH HATE REAL MADRID". I meant a great part of Manchester United fans hate them to death for logical reasons [History (no chance), worldwide fanbase (Madrid tops them), always lose against them in field, etc].

That's from what I read and know [the majority of the friends I got in London are ManUtd fans, suprisingly or not]. Maybe it's true OR not - I don't know. Just my opinion.

Actually I'm a fan, a big one, of all the things that make me laugh. Inter is one of them. Although they got my favourite footballer as you know. cry.gif

kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 26 2007, 12:13 AM)
WOW !!!  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif

I have got to give it to the Brazilians, football is in bedded into their culture.
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I'm not a fan of all that myself.

It may be because I'm English, but there's no real fight or passion in their game. Look at John Terry and Steven Gerrard compared to them, they'd die for their team, A lot of Brazillians just give up if they can't be bothered.

They may make it look all fancy, with all their skills. To me, I couldn't care less about the skill, now and then if it's effective, but to show off? Pointless.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 26 2007, 03:28 AM)
I'm not a fan of all that myself.

It may be because I'm English, but there's no real fight or passion in their game. Look at John Terry and Steven Gerrard compared to them, they'd die for their team, A lot of Brazillians just give up if they can't be bothered.

They may make it look all fancy, with all their skills. To me, I couldn't care less about the skill, now and then if it's effective, but to show off? Pointless.
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I didn't even have to read ur post tongue.gif

After all, ur the notorious one who thinks Pele cant play football tongue.gif

btw .. the discussion was about football not wits. Like Robinho said in the clip (towards the very end); "..they used to tell me I was too skinny to play futsal, but I still played .. if u used intelligence, no defense can stop you.." btw, true wink.gif Explains Kaka' devilsmiley.gif Probably, why everyone is drooling about Pato too ..

Well, I don't like to think of it as American Football now, ridged tactics biggrin.gif But football does have it's mm "jogo bonito" .. I doubt it has anything to do with you being English, cuz after all how do u explain Henry @ London
Portman
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 26 2007, 01:39 AM)
Probably, why everyone is drooling about Pato too ..

Pato doesn't have the "ginga" thing Ronaldinho and Robinho have. He's brazillian but more Ronaldo (R99) style.

BTW: Did you know Pato already signed a contract with Nike?

http://nikefootball.nike.com/nikefootball/...,br,0;frontpage

Click on TITULARES (in brazillian it means FIRST 11) and then chose PATO to watch a short clip of him.

PS: You can see LUCAS there too. That wonder kid that Liverpool signed and that Milan was after. Oh and GIOVANI dos Santos from Barcelona too.
Rossoneri7
Well, not sure about the ginga .. But I meant skill with the ball.

Yeah, those are some very promising players .. Haven't heard much of Lucas though.
Warchant
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 25 2007, 02:58 PM)
Haha, I really want to post that around I think some will believe it  tongue.gif
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sadly they probably would biggrin.gif
Portman
Dundee-Barcelona playing at the moment, 55 min: 0-0

Ronaldinho and Eto'o played the first half, along with Ezquerro upfront. Now in the 2nd half it's Giovani dos Santos, Bojan Krkic and Henry.
Portman






He was the captain, the time he played today in Scotland vs. Hearts.
Rossoneri7
So ?! huh.gif

Is it over unsure.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 29 2007, 07:04 AM)
So ?!  huh.gif

Is it over unsure.gif
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biggrin.gif You were wrong about R10 all the time my friend!

It IS over! in fact it was over from the very first day! rolleyes.gif
MizNelson
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 28 2007, 02:39 PM)




He was the captain, the time he played today in Scotland vs. Hearts.
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Wow, I haven't seen that much blue outside the canned tuna section in the grocery store. Nice unies. smile.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Jul 29 2007, 06:38 PM)
Wow, I haven't seen that much blue outside the canned tuna section in the grocery store. Nice unies. smile.gif
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hehe i'll have mine in 2 weeks, i ordered it 2 days ago king.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Jul 31 2007, 12:29 AM)
hehe i'll have mine in 2 weeks, i ordered it 2 days ago  king.gif
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I'm ashamed! ohmy.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 30 2007, 10:29 PM)
I'm ashamed!  ohmy.gif
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meh i dont mind barca, i'm no fan but i just love it when they destroy real. and that jersey is so beautiful i'm gonna be using it to play.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 1 2007, 01:54 AM)
meh i dont mind barca, i'm no fan but i just love it when they destroy real. and that jersey is so beautiful i'm gonna be using it to play.
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I was only kidding, I can hardly complain. I have an old De La Pena one. cool.gif
Portman
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 1 2007, 02:54 AM)
meh i dont mind barca, i'm no fan but i just love it when they destroy real.

What's up to their away kit? Yellow... orange... now cyan.
I know Barcelona is a city known for the number of cnuts around but still...
KillerMax
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 31 2007, 08:12 PM)
What's up to their away kit? Yellow... orange... now cyan.
I know Barcelona is a city known for the number of cnuts around but still...
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laugh.gif
Portman


http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/200...3381118152.html

Ronaldinho already joking and saying things about the intense training that Rijkaard is demanding in this pre-season.

When he was training he said to Rijkaard: "Life is not like this." laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Jack Sparrow
*sigh* 50 pages in a thread...all for a guy who's gonna come in the winter. tongue.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 1 2007, 07:53 PM)
*sigh* 50 pages in a thread...all for a guy who's gonna come in the winter. tongue.gif
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Yeah... Summer in Europe = Winter in Brazil. biggrin.gif

Well, we're gonna get him. It doesn't mean it's this Summer or the next one. Someday, he'll wear the black&red shirt.
Zed.D
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Well, we're gonna get him. It doesn't mean it's this Summer or the next one. Someday, he'll wear the black&red shirt.


When he's a finished 30 yo? well, I don't want to have another Rivaldo story. we should sign him next summer or forget about him.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 1 2007, 08:20 PM)
When he's a finished 30 yo? well, I don't want to have another Rivaldo story. we should sign him next summer or forget about him.
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We should forget about him full stop. He's not worth half of what's been speculated, the money can be much better spent.
KillerMax
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 1 2007, 07:54 PM)
We should forget about him full stop. He's not worth half of what's been speculated, the money can be much better spent.
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Next year he'll come for cheaper. Of course it all depends how things turn out for Barca, especially this season.
Portman
Like someone in here posted... there's a rumour in Milano about a "15/08" thing.

Probably b/s... but we're here to see what happens until September.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 6 2007, 05:35 AM)
Like someone in here posted... there's a rumour in Milano about a "15/08" thing.

Probably b/s... but we're here to see what happens until September.
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What's that "15/08" thing? huh.gif
dst
QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 1 2007, 05:12 AM)
What's up to their away kit? Yellow... orange... now cyan.
I know Barcelona is a city known for the number of cnuts around but still...
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Oh! I thought Real Madrid is Spanish for c_nts! rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
Nope Real means royal...so technically it's royal c_nts! Use a translator if you please.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 7 2007, 01:01 AM)

I ain't signing what I can't read dry.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 7 2007, 02:52 AM)
I ain't signing what I can't read dry.gif
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Ronaldinho al Milan.

al = to. wink.gif

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Milan, Galliani riapre i giochi e rispunta Ronaldinho (Gazzetta dello Sport)

L'a.d. rossonero ha fatto capire che il mercato non è chiuso.

zoom - galleria Il mercato rossonero improvvisamente si riapre. Julio Baptista piace sempre e il Real non vuole tenerlo. I dirigenti di via Turati sembrano ancora interessati all'attaccante. Ma il Milan non esclude nulla e pare non aver abbandonato nemmeno la pista Ronaldinho. E infatti ieri in serata, a Milan Channel, alla domanda di Lodetti se arriveranno altri rinforzi, Adriano Galliani non ha replicato con un secco «no», ma si è celato dietro un «preferisco non rispondere ». Una frase che riapre di colpo le porte all'obiettivo più ambizioso: quel Ronaldinho a cui lo stesso Silvio Berlusconi ha fatto periodici riferimenti. E ora quest'uscita dell'amministratore delegato rossonero lascia intendere che in via Turati non hanno affatto mollato la presa sull'ex Pallone d'Oro.

Con tanti obiettivi da giocarsi, basteranno gli attaccanti che il Milan ha a disposizione adesso? L'impressione è che i dirigenti, anche se ufficialmente paghi dell'acquisto (costoso) di Pato, restino pronti a cogliere qualche occasione per rinforzare la rosa nel finale del mercato.

gazzetta


The rumours ARE back. Today in a interview to Gazzetta, Adriano Galliani when asked about Ronaldinho he said a misterious: "I prefer not answer that question."
Rossoneri7
It isn't an impossible target .. It always was Milan's #1 target, so I don't know but .. Lets wait and see if there is any foundation to this rumor ..
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