Well there's this part of Kashmir that's Indian...and there's this part that's Pakistani.

Supposedly, that's the reason, India and Pakistan have fought 3 wars. Though I'm still kinda lost about this supposed 'hate'. I've only heard about Indians and Pakistanis who hated each other. All the Pakistani guys I knew were my friends. B!tches used to cheat at cricket though.


Buying Kashmir?? Hmmm....looking to jumpstart your harem program again is it R7?

I know you gotta thing for Kashmiri girls. Well yes, among Indians, they probably have the best skin. But I'm sure acid could show you some groovy Pathan chicks as well.

The girls from Karachi are so I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up eloping with a nice Pakistani girl. I'll probably hide out in acid's house, till the storm blew over.

So when are we visiting acid ?!

Very interesting comments from Berlusconi after the derby:

'Sono sempre stato dubbioso sul suo possibile acquisto, ma ora sono meno convinto che il Milan abbia proprio bisogno di lui'

[I've always been dubious about his possible acquisition, but now I'm less convinced that Milan needs him.]

Have they changed their mind about him? Is it because the 'senators' (ie, senior players) from Milan have come out and said Milan has other priorities? Is it a bargaining strategy to get Barca to lower their price? Who knows?

yea but kaka said today again he would love to play with R10 i think we will sign him in the end on a low price i suppose

I'm not sure we'll sign him -- Gattuso and Seedorf have spoken against it in the last few days and have pointed out that Milan has greater need to reinforce in other areas than in attacking mids (I agree with that point). Then again, Berlusconi's statement may just be part of the bargaining strategy.

oh i consider R10 more than just an AM and seedorf had and excellent game today but overall this season he has problems of not running at all and with R10 our set pieces will also imprve a lot in the end we will have to wait and see our first objecitve shall be to win the next 2 games

I think it's a combination...Milan want him, but not so bad that we'll let Barca break our balls for it. Good ploy.

I don't know 10ster, but I do think our mid-field is very lacking in creativity.

If any one of our creative mids are bottled up/injured...no one can come on and make a difference. Basically our creative mids are too few to lend to squad rotation. Pirlo, Ricky and Clarence have to play virtually every game.

I think we need 3 new signings besides Flamini:

1 LB- I would have said RB too, but Bonera really seems to have stepped up. So with Oddo, Daniele and Cafu we've got it covered.
2 Playmakers: R10, Cigarini...they're all different but still useful

Technically if we got R10 we could do without the second striker, Ricky and R10 could alternate in the game from being trequartista or fantasista.

Milan wants Ronaldinho more & more ...

and I want him badly , more than any time

I think it is ... And as for Seedorf, it's because if Ronaldinho comes to Milan, he is going to bench somebody from the current first XI, which could very well be Seedorf.

I know this for sure, if Ronaldinho comes to Milan and acclimatizes himself with the general discipline of the squad. I will have no doubt that the league will be in Via Turati by the end of the season

I'm still undecided on R10. As a player he is one of the best, but it's the baggage that follows him I'm not too keen on. His brother is a total snake who, if he does sign, will try and screw us in a few years time when he wants yet more money. Then you have the whole Nike joga bonita thing where it's all about the tricks rather than the impact on the game. In saying that though, bringing R10 to the serie A would be a mini coup and raise the stock of the Serie A.

I think there are other areas that need strengthening before we sign R10, strengthen those with quality players and if we have enough for R10 then great, otherwise no real loss IMO

Am I the only one who thinks that this statement has a lot to do with our victory over the merda?

Seriously, I'm not saying we need R10 (actually I think we don't and want to see a 2 strikers formation) but I don't want the management to do what they did last year, Fester already said that if we had Kaka and Pippo 100% fit for Arsenal, we would probably be playing the final now what the hell is that mean? God I don't even want to think about it!

We definitely need to inject new blood in the team, one player in every department would be the ideal, instead of that we get another defensive midfielder, I mean Flamini could be a great acquisition for us but we need more a creative midfielder, a left back, a goal keeper and a target striker. If we're going to act like last year and start all the "we're fine" thing, then there is no point to reach the CL spot at all!!!

Exactly what I thought about. 'we're fine as we are' statements have started

I don't think it's a 'we're fine as we are' statement. I'm taking it as indicating something has soured in the negotiations, whether with Barca or with Ronaldinho's agent. Or both. It could also be that Don Silvio wasn't too impressed with the detailed article that appeared in the Spanish press detailing what Ronaldinho did the night before Barca's semi v. Manchester, when he was too injured to play (out dancing til 5am, basically).

how many rimes they say we want him no we dont want him in the end we have to wait and see I mean gallini even said that 180 percent thing so we defintly had some agreement with the player

Galliani is a liar, just ignore everything he says. In fact, whatever he says, believe the opposite, it's more often than not the right thing to do.

Gallini is not a liar that por fellow has to say everything in the press he does not even grow hairs thnx to this all pressure

I really hope he won't have his partys in Milan next year

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kaka has again spoken abt him and saying that he is gud can help milan win in other words he would like him in milan i think milan will go for him

^^ But Kaka doesn't dictate the club's transfer policy, CMF. The quote is a recycle of an interview given a couple of days ago, I think.

That said, the more I think of it, the more this most recent 'we don't need him' talk seems to be a negotiating tactic. I'll admit I'm particularly in favor of a Ronaldinho transfer, but I still think it may well happen.

So... we're not getting him!?

For AC Milan this would be great... for Milan the town it's bad news... just imagine Adriano and Ronaldinho in the same city... BRING IT ON BABY!!!!

Excellent post that

nor do seedorf or rino who have been anti him seedorf simply bcoz of losing his place i believe R10 is the best solution for seedorf ( he should be on bench from next season).... other than that R10 will improve our set pieces aswell which are useless when pirlo is not in form or not playing

Can't say I'm any more in favour of the transfer than before, but....

Milannews.it is reporting that on Catalan show Ronda (?) journalist Cristina Cubero (who is said to be knowledgeable about stuff related to Barca) stated that Ronaldinho + Zambrotta are going to Milan for a combined sum of 26 million euros. She added that Berlusconi's statements of yesterday were a bargaining ploy to lower the asking price that Laporta had set at 40 million to 'keep face'.

if we get them both for 26 million tht would be brilliant but most catalan sources just spread stuff

Some Catalan sources are relatively reliable. Porty's the expert for that, though. Hopefully he'll be able to tell us whether to believe this or not.

For that money even I would bring Ronaldinho (and the sum also includes Zambro) in! It's a risk worth taken... still a big risk though. I'd be surprised if R20 found his former self but if there's any team he can do that with, I believe it's Milan... and YES that may be biased!

^^

Oh and why would you be biased towards Milan. We are after all a forum full of Aston Villa supporters aren't we?

Well said. if Kaka backs buying R10 it's overstepping boundaries but if Seedorf says we don't need him, simply because he will lose his place and # to a better player, he's a true Milanista who wants the best for the team.

IMO Silvio has always admired R10 and still does. I hope he comes…

Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that Ernesto Bronzetti will be meeting with Barca people in the next few days to discuss the transfer of Ronaldinho and Zambrotta to Milan. Not sure if this is the Italian press copying the above-mentioned Catalan story or if it's confirmation of the story.

We're being linked with Willy Sagnol... mm... first Flamini and now Sagnol... we're going French all of a sudden... Porty's not gonna like it.

It's difficult to say as there are 38342890423043094239024309 rumours around Barcelona at this moment. They'll have Guardiola as their new coach and many players will go.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=102771

This article today says Bronzetti will be tomorrow in Madrid (for El Classico in Bernabeu) and he'll talk with Barcelona about the 10R + Zambrotta deal.

We'll see. But if we get them for 30M/euros it's a good deal.

I'm not much of a fan of this transfer but yeah. 30 million for Zambrotta + Ronaldinho is a pretty good deal and even I wouldn't pass it up.

You wouldn't

what abt this artilce is it just made up from what Silvio said after the derby game bcoz after that he has not spken to press abt milan i guess..

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=685713

L'équipe is quoting a Spanish newspaper "ADN" and they say that R10 passed a medical examination in the night (maybe the last one) and the doctors said that "the results are terrible. His general condition is terrible than people thought"

Source

Does anyone know about ADN and how reliable hey are?

Its a Spanish newspaper ... Not sure of it's reliability though, but I was going to post this same thing.

It says that Ronaldinho cant play up to his standards again, because of a physical problem he has; this is what the tests produced. Barca were not aware of Ronnie taking these tests, he did it in a private clinic for the clubs interested in him (notably Milan). Barca became aware yesterday .. Thus, Silvio declaring that he has doubts on the Ronaldinho-Milan transfer.



TBH ... I am in the cold and have no clue ... We will just have to wait till the 19th of May, for anything reliable from Milan to come out

It changes nothing for us as buyer becuz we have medical tests too , i guess it is more about to show to Barca fans that the best decision is selling Ronaldinho or to show Laporta that every price from Milan for Ronaldinho is good , so sell him Lapo

Do U notice that Ronaldinho Topic reach 100 , on what page we will reach to Ronaldinho ?

Hopefully never.

Hmm.

If he really is in bad condition and there was no way to salvage him, would he be worth it?

That is the question i am sure the board are pondering now

On contrary , I will trying to be Hopeful !

I think all of these are games from Milan and De Asiss !

its too early to make predictions. Every week the story is different. If ronnie will work hard and commit to regaining his form then he will probably come but if not then we will look elsewhere.

so far we have:
flamini
sagnol(looks like its done and will be announced on the 19th)
CB: either zapata/mexes/etc..
ronnie and zambrotta: really depends on barca, and there is no way to make predicition.

finally...
our most important aspect: foreward. We have not even tried to get a worldclass striker and this issue should be solved first and before we think about ronaldinho.

We need to reinforce GK DF MF before strikers

so your fine with a FW that doesn't score, one whos injured 24/7 an 18 year old school kid and a 34 year old striker who can play 2 months out of the entire season?


gk= kalac hasnt beend oing bad
defence= they are still not as bad as the strikers
midfield= worldclass

Well in my humble opinion, a goalkeeper is the least of our worries. Sure a top, top class goalie will save us a few points, but it won't be wise to spend money for a new number 1 and leave out on the other areas that need more attention. It should go something like this:

1. A world class striker.
2. Another attacking mid, R10 or someone like him.
3. Get a couple of left backs, and if possible a quality center back.
4. A young, new number 1.

Of course, this translates to around 5-6 players, more if we include a certain Ukrainian on a loan deal or direct buy. But we're an Italian club after all, with very decent technical abilities. If we can control the midfield and have a waterproof defense, a half decent keeper can get the job done. This doesn't imply we don't need a younger, better man between the posts. But it shouldn't be at the cost of other positions. Which have cost us valuable points this season. No backups for key players, strikers injured, defense leaky, etc.

No i am not happy with the strike force, but our priorities need to be in other areas

GK:
Dida - 34, unfit, out of form - finished basically
Kalac - 35 - decent backup not much else. Not good enough as a first choice GK

DF (in desperate need of reinforcements)
Cafu - 37 - not dependable
Maldini - 39 - Unable to play full season
Kaladze - 30 - good for a few more years
Nesta - 32 good for a few more seasons, but we need to gradually introduce and heir
Simic - 32 - decent backup
Jankulovski - 30 - good for a little while longer
Favalli - 36 - cannot be relied upon anymore
Bonera - 26 - Good
Serginho - 36 - cannot be relied upon anymore (can you see correlation yet?)
Oddo - 31 - good for a little while longer

There are 4 players over the age of 35, most of these will leave soon, while the other if he dosent retire, will still need a word class alternative

Overall there are 9 defenders over 30. Are you saying we should not reinforce the foundations of the squad?

Midfeild is better but still needs reinforcing

Emerson - 32 - Please leave!
Gattuso - 30
Seedorf - 32
Gourcuff - 21
Pirlo - 28
Ambro - 30
Brocchi - 32
(Flamini - 24)

Here we look decent. Brocchi needs to be replaced and Seedorf needs an alternative considering he is 32. Dosent look like Gourcuff will cut it

Forwards

Pato -18
Inzaghi - 34
Gila - 25
Kaka - 26
Ronaldo - 31
Paloschi - 18
(Possibly Borriello - 25)

Now look there and see what needs to be changed. Using logic the defence is the least likely to hold so must be reinforced.

There isnt much depth in midfield so that needs to be reinforced next which is given joint priority for a GK

Attack still needs to be strengthened but can wait till last as ironically (assuming everyone is fit) there is most depth there

Milan will never bring a young goaly unless he's meant to be benched, and I doubt one of the highly rated young keepers out there would accept the bench when he's a starter in his current club. So I think they'll go for an experienced keeper, and Frey is the only one who seems to be available at the moment. Oh, and a very good keeper can bring at least 10 points to his club and 10 points is not something you can spit on.

Anyway, if I have to make a priority choice I'd put the keeper just after the striker, and the wing backs in 3.

That is a bit of an understatement. I've seen good keepers save up to 15 points a season. They completely stand out in say 5 games out of 38, and there you've got yourself a deal. But the case remains that even a Buffon can't help much if he's got a leaky defense and a shaky midfield to contend with.

Dida + Kalac can last another two seasons at least. This of course doesn't mean they should. If we can get a good keeper, someone the quality of Frey or better, then by all means snap him up. But in no way this should interfere with our other problems, which include defense to midfield to attack - and everything in between. They way I see it, we need at least one player for each of the four departments. At the very least.