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Zed.D
I agree with han. it almost has become an old cliche that Kaka and Ronaldinho can't play well in the same team. they have played some great football together most of times [except for the World Cup of course]. even if they hadn't, that wouldn't have been necessarily true regarding Milan. Brazil and Milan are two completely different teams...
Zed.D
This one's from Channel 4. it's nice to see he's doing his utmost to become a Milan player smile.gif

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Dinho to Milan 'imminent'
 
Sunday 13 July, 2008

The Italian, Spanish and Brazilian media are buzzing with news that Ronaldinho could complete his move to Milan within 48 hours.

Interest in the Barcelona outcast had waned over the past few days after Emmanuel Adebayor’s agent revealed Arsenal were willing to part with the Togolese striker for “just over half” the original £32m asking price.

However, according to O Globo, the Gazzetta dello Sport and El Mundo Deportivo this morning, Adriano Galliani is in Catalonia to finalise the transfer.

The key is the fact that Barcelona have banned Ronaldinho from attending the Beijing Olympics with the Brazil squad.

The club is within its rights to do so, as the tournament does not form part of the FIFA official calendar, but he wants to use it as reason to call on Article 17.

That would allow him to buy himself out of his contract for a small fee and would therefore be free to join Milan rather than await their £20m demands.

Matters will come to a head on Monday, when Ronaldinho will refuse to attend pre-season training with his club.

Instead his agent (and brother) Roberto De Assis will fly in to demand an immediate transfer. Considering Barca are having problems of their own with the club hierarchy in conflict, they could be open to ending this potentially damaging situation before it begins.

Ronaldinho has been training in Porto Alegre and seems to have already lost the weight that caused so many jokes at his expense only a few weeks ago.

It is believed he has agreed to accept a two-year contract with the Rossoneri worth £4m per season.
vahid
Does we have any transfers on Sundays or we have to wait until tomorrow?
Zed.D
QUOTE (vahid @ Jul 13 2008, 01:12 PM)
Does we have any transfers on Sundays or we have to wait until tomorrow?
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I don't think there would be any problem. we can sign him any time we want, maybe we only have to wait until tomorrow to register it in FIGC books!
vahid
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Dinho To Skip Training & Join Milan
Barcelona star Ronaldinho will refuse to turn up to pre season training with his club tomorrow, and will instead complete a move to Milan, according to reports in Brazil, Italy and Spain.

Ronaldinho’s proposed transfer to the Rossoneri has become something of a saga this summer, but it seems as if the soap opera has finally reached its last episode.

The 28-year-old is angry with his club for refusing him permission to play with Brazil at this summer’s Olympics, and according to O Globo, the Gazzetta dello Sport and El Mundo Deportivo, the player will use this as an excuse to execute FIFA’s Article 17 whereby he will buy himself out of his contract.

This would mean that Milan would not have to shell out the €25m or so that Barcelona are demanding for Ronaldinho.

Milan general manager is currently in Catalonia finalising the transfer, and it is expected that Ronaldinho will officially be a Rossonero player within 48 hours.

In order to speed up the move, the Brazilian will refuse to turn up to pre season training with the Blaugrana tomorrow, with his brother and agent, Roberto De Assis, instead demanding an immediate transfer. Barca, who are currently engrossed in some internal conflict, are unlikely to put up much of a fight.

Link


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fresh_prince7
Hmm out of curiosity.. when we play 2 strikers, what sort of formation do you think we'd use.
Ry4n
Come on make it Official !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ry4n
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 12 2008, 09:26 PM)
It's was on Dubai sport channel. I also saw it on our local sports channel, not long ago, but didn't think much of it.

This could be it !!
Com'on han, break out the Champaign biggrin.gif
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Dubai sport the news iis at 6pm right?
fresh_prince7
MILAN, Started the meeting Galliani-Assis: there isn't Dinho
14.07.2008 15.41 by Redazione TMW read 596

Ha begun the meeting between Roberto Assis, Adriano Galliani and Ernesto Bronzetti. Rossonero general manager will elucidate the offer still agreed during last days by the brother and agent of Ronaldinho. The brazilian ace is in this moment in his Villa, waiting the return of Roberto, for go together to Barcelona headquarter and communicate that the only offer to which is disposed to say yes is that one of Milan.

http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=r...amp;idsel=20675
CrazyMilanFan
well this is on it climax rite now hopefully it ends soon innocent.gif
Zed.D
There were rumors it will be a done deal today... imagine Ronaldinho + v2 on the same day
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 14 2008, 07:04 PM) *
There were rumors it will be a done deal today... imagine Ronaldinho + v2 on the same day

yea follow this http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=88287
Zed.D
^^

What does this say?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 14 2008, 09:13 PM) *
^^

What does this say?


I think its a minute by minute update huh.gif
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 14 2008, 07:13 PM) *
^^

What does this say?

the last two say that
19.45 In two hours there will be a new meeting between Roberto De Assis, the President of Barcelona Laporta and Adriano Galliani. the future of Dinho is increasingly rossonero

19.30 The negotiations should close in the next 48 hours, but Adriano Galliani still hopes to close during the day. According to Sky Vice President rossonero gave the blaugrana about 20 million euros
m1ke
Could be a great day biggrin.gif
han2503
A lot of sites saying it's done deal for Milan. Barca still trying to stall by using Man City as a tool to try and get a bit more money.

But Dinho has stood his graoud saying he only wants Milan which leaves Galliani with all the cards in his hands to play with

han2503
Ronaldinho In Milan Meeting

AC Milan general manager Adriano Galliani is currently engrossed in negotiations for Ronaldinho with the player, his brother and agent Roberto de Assis, Barçelona president Joan Laporta and the club's Director of Football, Txiki Begiristain.

According to Sport, Ronaldinho's brother and agent, Roberto de Assis, met with AC Milan's vice-president, Adriano Galliani, to hear the Rossoneri's offer for the two-time FIFA World Player of the Year.

After the meeting, which took place at the hotel Rey Juan Carlos in Barcelona from 16:45 to 17:45, De Assis and Galliani headed to Camp Nou, where they are currently in negotiations with Barça president Joan Laporta and the club's Director of Football, Txiki Begiristain.

It is also believed that Ronaldinho himself is at the club's facilities and has joined the negotiations table after missing the club's first pre-season training this morning.

Sport further claims that the midfielder and his brother flew to Barcelona earlier today and arrived at the Spanish city at around 13:10, having avoided the press upon their arrival and left the airport through a different terminal than the expected one.

Latest whispers in Italy suggest that Ronaldinho's transfer to Milan could be announced tonight.
Zed.D
I hate Barca, but I understand their antics. it must be hard losing Ronaldinho for such a low sum! especially when Man City is ready to pay more to both Barca and Ronaldinho...
Rossoneri7
Alright people ... Drum roll .. An announcement is expected at around 9:30 pm Spain time ...


Journalists have been outside of the Barca headquarters waiting for news all evening!
Zed.D
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 14 2008, 10:10 PM) *
Alright people ... Drum roll .. An announcement is expected at around 9:30 pm Spain time ...


Journalists have been outside of the Barca headquarters waiting for news all evening!


I can't wait for that "Ronaldinho al Milan" announcement
m1ke
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Ronaldinho's agent wants a move to Milan tonight, but Barcelona are taking “two or three days” to decide on their £8m offer.

“Ronaldinho and his agent arrived at the Camp Nou this afternoon to discuss his future with general manager Txiki Begiristain, director of football Raul Sanllehi and Coach Josep Guardiola,” read an official statement on the club website.

“Both parties have agreed to give themselves a margin of two or three days to conclude the sale of the player to one of the clubs who have shown an interest in signing the Brazilian.

“If by the time this deadline has passed the deal has not been completed, the player will resume pre-season training with Barcelona.”

The decision has effectively put the ball in Milan's court, as they have 72 hours to convince Barca that their £8m bid - or an improved proposal - is worth their while.

The Blaugrana are holding out because they would obviously prefer to accept the £25.5m offer from Manchester City.

However, Ronaldinho and agent De Assist have repeatedly stated in the media that Milan are the only choice.

Today De Assis - who is the former World and European Player of the Year's brother - met with Milan general manager Adriano Galliani in a Barcelona hotel and spoke to journalists outside.

“Things are going well. In fact, they could not have gone better,” specified the representative.

It is now reported that the Rossoneri expressed their willingness to go up to £16m if absolutely pushed into it, but would prefer to use Ronaldinho's personal preference to force Barcelona's hand.

Milan wish to complete the signing for the start of their pre-season training, which is on Wednesday at 11am.

£8M? Imagine that! laugh.gif
CrazyMilanFan
well if the figure is abt 8 million or even 10 million then gallaini has done some bussiness all this adebeyour thing over the last few months
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 14 2008, 07:40 PM) *
Alright people ... Drum roll .. An announcement is expected at around 9:30 pm Spain time ...


Journalists have been outside of the Barca headquarters waiting for news all evening!

it should be in 25 mins then wink.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 14 2008, 10:33 PM) *
well if the figure is abt 8 million or even 10 million then gallaini has done some bussiness all this adebeyour thing over the last few months


I don't think we can get Ronaldinho for just 8 million... it's simply stupid!!
CrazyMilanFan
it will be a bit more than 17.5 million euros which is R10 release clause it could be abt 15 million pounds 18.75 euros
Zed.D
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 14 2008, 09:45 PM) *
I think its a minute by minute update huh.gif


Will you please stop being like that? what do you think, I'm a dumb or something? I know it's a minute by minute update. I just don't understand Italian, Einstein!
han2503
QUOTE (m1ke @ Jul 14 2008, 06:46 PM) *
£8M? Imagine that! laugh.gif

If the fee is actually £8m I will never say a bad thing about Galliani again.

Even if R10 flops royally, we can still recover that ammount on his shirt sales alone, and I would believ that the marketing guys would be working up a storm to promote the brazialian trio of Kaka, R10 and Pato, so we will have np recuiperating that ammount on marketing alone.

If he manages to complete the deal for that ammount I will take my hat off to Galliani and admit he is a genius
han2503
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 14 2008, 07:11 PM) *
I don't think we can get Ronaldinho for just 8 million... it's simply stupid!!

Fact is Milan hold all the cards in their hand because of the simple fact that Ronaldinho does not want to go to M.City. If that wasn't the case thenhe would have been sold to Man City weeks ago because of the much more bigger offer they made to Barca.

But because R10 does not want to go to MC then Barca have no choice but to accept whatever Milan offer. Because lets face it, Barca can't afford to keep Dinho no matter what they say. It would cost them a hell of a lot to keep him especially when their coach has made it public that he is not in his plans, plus he will create problems as long as he is kept there against his will

So Barca whether they like it or not will have to sell him, they have 2 options, but since Dinho refuses to go to the highest bidder then Barca will have to make do with our smaller offer

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 14 2008, 07:15 PM) *
Will you please stop being like that? what do you think, I'm a dumb or something? I know it's a minute by minute update. I just don't understand Italian, Einstein!

Hey, let's calm down, I think the R10 excitement is getting to our heads. That article you posted is basically showing all the events of the day when R10 and his brother arrived, Galliani arriving, Meeting between Galliani and R10, meeting between R10 and Barca.

Galliani and R10 meeting at the hotel and being seen near the pool while seemingly happy and amidst celebrations and then Galliani leaving and another meeting to be going on between all parties later on today
armiss
I like the way Ronaldinho did it , he never choose clear fight against Barcelona , he was always calm and did what he wants !
han2503
According to totto mercato web the official meeting between Milan and Barca has just begun

So I think we'll have to wait until tomorrow for an official announcement
Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 14 2008, 11:58 PM) *
Hey, let's calm down, I think the R10 excitement is getting to our heads. That article you posted is basically showing all the events of the day when R10 and his brother arrived, Galliani arriving, Meeting between Galliani and R10, meeting between R10 and Barca.

Galliani and R10 meeting at the hotel and being seen near the pool while seemingly happy and amidst celebrations and then Galliani leaving and another meeting to be going on between all parties later on today


I'm cool. v2 has really made my day. wink.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 15 2008, 12:45 AM) *
According to totto mercato web the official meeting between Milan and Barca has just begun

So I think we'll have to wait until tomorrow for an official announcement


I don't think so. remember Pato's? it was way in the midnight!
han2503
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 14 2008, 08:19 PM) *
I don't think so. remember Pato's? it was way in the midnight!

Well considering this and Barca's reluctance to make it official I'm shooting for tomorrow.

CrazyMilanFan
well we need some statement from gallaini today then we can wait for the official announcmnet tommarow and on wednesday the players can be presented
nuh
i cant wait man this will be the longest day of my life and i think i wll wake up 5:00 in the morning just to check up
han2503
Reports now claiming that all talks have been postponed until tomorrow.

Looks like another day of waiting ahead of us
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 14 2008, 10:21 PM) *
Reports now claiming that all talks have been postponed until tomorrow.

Looks like another day of waiting ahead of us

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Jack Sparrow
Wow...I wish they would post transcripts of the negotiations. It would be super cool. I'm just thinking of Laporta's arrogant - "Milan still negotiate like they're in the 80s!" comment. Anything less than 20 million euros will pay us back in 2-3 years max, and that is not including earnings from victories.

Wait...does anyone know if the contract we're offering him, cedes image rights to r20? Cos otherwise, our revenue will really be something. droolsmiley.gif

Inshallah...this'll happen soon.
Ry4n
isnt he contracted to Nike ?? aswell
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 15 2008, 11:28 AM) *
Wow...I wish they would post transcripts of the negotiations. It would be super cool. I'm just thinking of Laporta's arrogant - "Milan still negotiate like they're in the 80s!" comment. Anything less than 20 million euros will pay us back in 2-3 years max, and that is not including earnings from victories.

Wait...does anyone know if the contract we're offering him, cedes image rights to r20? Cos otherwise, our revenue will really be something. droolsmiley.gif

Inshallah...this'll happen soon.

I don;t think we'll touch his image rights, just like with Ronaldo. He'll be getting a smaller wage but Milan will give him full control of his image rights
Jack Sparrow
^^^

He is....but that doesn't matter. So is Paolo, Pirlo and Pato (also R99 previously). I mean if we don't have his image rights, then all R20 replica milan jersey earnings go to R20 and not Milan. For instance, we have the Kaka 22 line of apparel, which I'm sure gives us some cash. biggrin.gif

But we could still earn, cos quite a few sponsors will be eager to sponsor a team which has Pato, Kaka and R20.
han2503
Blog: Dinho’s Devils


Rivaldo and Ronaldo failed before him, but James Horncastle believes Ronaldinho and Milan are made for each other – albeit off the pitch

Look back at the last 15 years of this wonderful sport and ask yourself a question. Which players from the `90s and the early `00s will you still talk about over the next decade and beyond? Zinedine Zidane’s name is probably the first that springs to mind, but I bet more than a few of you mention one of the three Rs – Rivaldo, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho – in the same breath as the magical Frenchman.

Each of the three Brazilians made their names at Barcelona, enthralling Spain, before receiving a call from Milan. The allure of playing for the Rossoneri was such that Rivaldo and Ronaldo broke their contracts at Barca and Real Madrid respectively in 2002 and 2007 to join the Italian giants. Both were aged 30 and hardly over the hill. Both averaged a goal every other game in their final seasons in Spain. Both then signed a pact with the Diavolo in the literal and Faustian sense.

A year after penning for Milan their careers were in tatters. Rivaldo all but forgotten in Greece. Ronaldo injured and disgraced in Brazil. Ronaldinho has yet to follow his compatriots to Milanello. The Diavolo, however, have been trying to tempt him to San Siro for nearly two years now and a deal is said to be close.

So should he let superstition get in the way of a move to Milan? Err no. Footballers have, after all, called an end to negotiations for stranger reasons. Tottenham left-back Lee Young-Pyo, a devout Christian, famously turned down a move to Roma because the city was not religious enough. Ronaldinho by contrast, is a man very much in need of faith after a trying year in Catalonia.

Milan will give him that. But it’ll come at great cost. Not so much in terms of money. He’ll take the Rossoneri out of the red and into the black financially thanks to his value as a commercial asset. The problem lies in finding a place for Ronaldinho in the dressing room. He was disruptive at Barcelona, dividing the team in two. He trained how and when he wanted to. Moreover, his arrival will rule out the signature of an out and out centre-forward, a burly partner young Alexandre Pato is crying out for.

That said it’s little wonder why Milan are in for Gaucho. They need each other. Both can offer the other redemption. If the Rossoneri make Ronaldinho smile again, he might, just might, return the favour and give those disaffected Milanisti something to grin about and football fans everywhere a reason to believe he still deserves his place in the pantheon of all-time great players.


armiss
If Laporta think Milan Shopping is 80's has a huge mistake because he is the one that is coming from not 80's but a date befor B.C. !
CrazyMilanFan
the meeting is said to be at 1 pm spain time let see how it goes
han2503
Well the negotiations between Galliani and Laporta and set to start at 13:00 so we might hear something in a couple of hours.

But I wouldn't be surprised if this dragged on until the end of the week
Jack Sparrow
I don't care how long this drags on. For once we have the upper hand in the negotiations. And I hear Barca do really need to offload Eto'o and Ronaldinho. Do you think we'd get a buy one get one free thing?? biggrin.gif Coz for one, this is R20 last season, and he could leave on a free. Next, he could just as easily buy out the remainder of his contract. biggrin.gif And he will...it's just that Milan are being nice and decent about it. biggrin.gif But I have no doubts that, this is the trump card Galliani has. De Assis will walk in and say, if you don't accept Milan's final offer, we'll buy out the contract. It might ruin relations between the club for a time, but in Spain relations last only as long as the management remains. It's not like in Italy. biggrin.gif

han2503
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Ronnie, trattativa-maratona. Segui la giornata decisiva

Proseguono senza sosta a Barcellona i colloqui per portare il calciatore brasiliano al Milan. Alle 13.30 Galliani e Laporta si vedranno a pranzo: la differenza di 10 milioni fra la richiesta del Barcellona e l'offerta del Milan sembra prospettare una lunga trattativa. Seguiamo, ora per ora, l'evolversi della situazione

BARCELLONA (Spagna), 15 luglio 2008 - Passano le ore e si avvicina il momento in cui Ronaldinho potrebbe diventare un calciatore del Milan. Il brasiliano è arrivato ieri a Barcellona, dove ha incontrato Galliani e il fratello-procuratore. La società blaugrana intanto ha definito "soddisfacente" l'offerta rossonera, dando di fatto via libera all'operazione. Ma il contratto del giocatore è particolarmente complicato anche per ragioni extra-calcistiche, i dettagli da sistemare sono ancora tanti e ci sono da considerare anche le "interferenze" di Manchester City e Chelsea, interessate al giocatore. I nostri inviati seguiranno la trattativa ora per ora.

Ore 10.30 - Nonostante Ronaldinho sia a un passo dal Milan, non si spengono le sirene inglesi. Secondo il "Sun", il Chelsea ha contattato Ronaldinho offrendogli la prospettiva di un ingaggio più elevato di quello del Milan. Per il tabloid inglese sarebbe stato il nuovo tecnico Felipe Scolari a chiamare personalmente Ronaldinho. Anche a Manchester non si danno per vinti: secondo il "Guardian" il City ha offerto 27 milioni di Euro ai blaugrana. "Siamo determinati a fare qualsiasi cosa pur di arrivare al giocatore - ha detto il direttore generale Garry Cook - Ronaldinho ha dimostrato un serio interesse verso il Manchester City".

Ore 12.30 - Galliani è ancora in albergo, al Juan Carlos Primero, ma ha sentito il presidente del Barcellona, Joan Laporta: i due si vedranno alle 13.30 al ristorante. La trattativa sembra essersi complicata: secondo quanto scrivono i giornali spagnoli, i blaugrana vogliono chiudere a 25 milioni più premi, mentre l'offerta del Milan per ora è arrivata a 15 più premi. I dieci milioni di differenza sembrano prospettare una maratona.

source gazzetta.it


First it says that the negotiations have started.

There is still a gap of 10m between barca and Milan which personally I don't understand since yesterday Laporta said that both bids are adequate unsure.gif

But in the second paragraph they are confirming what I just said which is that Laporta said that Milan's offer is 'satisfactory'. But there are a lot of details still to go through regarding the contract. And that Ronaldinho could be hours away from being a Milan player. And they are also taking into consideration the possible interferance from Man City and now also Chelsea have gotten into the mix apperantly

@ 10:30 - Despite R10 being hours away from Milan, the sirens have gone off in England and the Sun is reporting that Chelsea have contacted R10 with an offer that is better then Milan's. It is reporting that Scolari himself hads talked to Ronaldinho.
Man City on the other hand have offered €23m and their general manager has said that they will do anything to get him. This is what is being reported by The Gaurdian

@ 12:30 - Galliani is still at the hotel, but he and Laporta are to meet at a restaurant at 13:30 and that the negotatiations are getting complicated because Barca want €25m while Milan are offering 15
Jack Sparrow
Oh shite...Scolari....realmad.gif Talk of f@ckin wild cards... Certain details?? I think Barca want a resell percentage or something...or extra money, depending on the position Milan finish in. That's what it sounds like.

Damn it......f@ckin Chelski....
Zed.D
Thanks for the update, han.

By the way, how come Laporta thinks our offer of 8 million is satisfactory? reading.gif it is super-unsatisfactory IMO!
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