QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 13 2008, 05:57 PM)
There's huntelaar and ... Borriello 
There's Huntelaar and ... Berbatov (*fixed*)
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There's Huntelaar and ... Berbatov (*fixed*)
Now looking into the possible situation of a possible arrival of the 2 I mentioned above, I just realised they both are said to be looking for CL football from next season (which would essentially rule us out 
)
Anyway, theres still hope... as we all know things can change dramatically and instantlly in the transfer market without a hint!
Huntelar did say once that he was content to stay at Ajax too for another season...
anyway well see what happens!
)Anyway, theres still hope... as we all know things can change dramatically and instantlly in the transfer market without a hint!
Huntelar did say once that he was content to stay at Ajax too for another season...
anyway well see what happens!
Why does Huntelaar get such attention?
I mean all we've seen is him at Ajax. MvB doesn't give him any chances for the Oranje team. He is good. But more than that? At this moment..not.
I mean all we've seen is him at Ajax. MvB doesn't give him any chances for the Oranje team. He is good. But more than that? At this moment..not.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 14 2008, 01:03 PM)
Why does Huntelaar get such attention?
I mean all we've seen is him at Ajax. MvB doesn't give him any chances for the Oranje team. He is good. But more than that? At this moment..not.
I mean all we've seen is him at Ajax. MvB doesn't give him any chances for the Oranje team. He is good. But more than that? At this moment..not.
I think he's injured/isn't 100% ready to play
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 14 2008, 10:33 AM)
Why does Huntelaar get such attention?
I mean all we've seen is him at Ajax. MvB doesn't give him any chances for the Oranje team. He is good. But more than that? At this moment..not.
I mean all we've seen is him at Ajax. MvB doesn't give him any chances for the Oranje team. He is good. But more than that? At this moment..not.
He's getting attention because he's exactly the type of player we need, young and good!
About the Dutch NT, I think it's really hard for him to play when he has RVN as a team mate. RVN has been incredible last night, probably his best performance I've ever seen!
His goal scoring record is incredible. Even better than what RvNs was in Holland, and we all know how god Ruud turned out to be.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 14 2008, 04:09 PM)
His goal scoring record is incredible. Even better than what RvNs was in Holland, and we all know how god Ruud turned out to be.
Hunter would make a interesting partnership with Pato. Exactly the type of partner our brazillian starlet need.
But I believe Real or Man Utd will get him.
I'm just surprised Berlusconi, Braida and Galliani didn't think of him... I mean, just to throw the name to the papers for the abbonamenti.
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 15 2008, 12:15 AM)
Hunter would make a interesting partnership with Pato. Exactly the type of partner our brazillian starlet need.
That's what I think. And he could learn a lot from the Master Poacher.
edit: He's not that big a name to sell season tickets...
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 14 2008, 10:19 PM)
edit: He's not that big a name to sell season tickets...
I agree he doesn't seem as **** as Eto'o and Drogba or as lazy as Ronaldinho but still... I think it may work.
Surprise surprise, bad word removed.
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Guardiola: "From now until the 14th of July we should have settled the problem with Ronaldinho"
The future of one of footballs most esteemed and decorated player is still in the dark, he was once unsellable, and today a black cloud surrounds his future.
What is definite is that Ronaldinho's journey with Barcelona has ended after five years, and the clubs that are keen to sign him are well known in the likes of AC Milan and Manchester City. Milan had presented a one time offer to Barcelona FC and not eligible for negotiation, it was a 15MM euro offer.
Now things are different, Chelsea have come into the fold with their new coach, Luiz Felipe Scolari, demanding the Barcelona and Selecao mega star. With two heavy weights set to battle it out, make no mistake that Manchester City's situation is the weakest: Chelsea and Milan will enter a bidding war, with Abramovic and Berlusconi setting the stage for a bidding war. Nevertheless, both clubs hold their reservations for Ronaldinho's fitness level and that he might not regain the form that he was notorious for.
But all of this doesn't mean anything to Barcelona's new coach Guardiola, who doesn't show interest in Ronaldinho, stating: "Until the 14th of July when the players get back together, Ronaldinho has to remain a problem for the club!"
The future of one of footballs most esteemed and decorated player is still in the dark, he was once unsellable, and today a black cloud surrounds his future.
What is definite is that Ronaldinho's journey with Barcelona has ended after five years, and the clubs that are keen to sign him are well known in the likes of AC Milan and Manchester City. Milan had presented a one time offer to Barcelona FC and not eligible for negotiation, it was a 15MM euro offer.
Now things are different, Chelsea have come into the fold with their new coach, Luiz Felipe Scolari, demanding the Barcelona and Selecao mega star. With two heavy weights set to battle it out, make no mistake that Manchester City's situation is the weakest: Chelsea and Milan will enter a bidding war, with Abramovic and Berlusconi setting the stage for a bidding war. Nevertheless, both clubs hold their reservations for Ronaldinho's fitness level and that he might not regain the form that he was notorious for.
But all of this doesn't mean anything to Barcelona's new coach Guardiola, who doesn't show interest in Ronaldinho, stating: "Until the 14th of July when the players get back together, Ronaldinho has to remain a problem for the club!"
Good news , so they dont want him
Hopefully we can still salvage something from this on going transfer saga!
....Scolari at Chelsea ( i wonder if we still have a chance)
Come on Dinho make the right choice!
....Scolari at Chelsea ( i wonder if we still have a chance)
Come on Dinho make the right choice!
R10 gave an interview to the Daily Telegraph where he said that he has a great faith in Scolari and he'd like to work with him again ...
good, i dont mind.
Gigi Balestra said today on Milan Channel that he thinks Ronaldinho will be our 'big transfer' of this Summer.
Gigi works for the club as Carlo's Ancelotti assistant.
Gigi works for the club as Carlo's Ancelotti assistant.
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 17 2008, 01:38 AM)
Gigi Balestra said today on Milan Channel that he thinks Ronaldinho will be our 'big transfer' of this Summer.
Gigi works for the club as Carlo's Ancelotti assistant.
Gigi works for the club as Carlo's Ancelotti assistant.
Yes!
In news that amuses me to no end, El Mundo Deportivo is reporting that the LA Galaxy has offered Barcelona 26 milion for Ronaldinho and that they're guaranteeing him a 32 million/year salary. The egos involved at LA really know no bounds. 
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 17 2008, 07:57 PM)
In news that amuses me to no end, El Mundo Deportivo is reporting that the LA Galaxy has offered Barcelona 26 milion for Ronaldinho and that they're guaranteeing him a 32 million/year salary. The egos involved at LA really know no bounds.
WHAT!?!? 32 million per year!?!? 
32 million a year? 
actually I think doable, doesn't some NBA players have the same salary?!
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 17 2008, 04:26 PM)
actually I think doable, doesn't some NBA players have the same salary?!
NBA and Baseball are in another league in terms of salaries
But I don't think 32M/season is the figure, if there was an offer from LA .. Maybe something closer to what Becks is getting.
32M/yr isn't realistic, especially with the financial difficulties that the US is in now !
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 17 2008, 01:26 PM)
actually I think doable, doesn't some NBA players have the same salary?!
Of all North American sports, the biggest contract ever signed is Alex Rodriguez' $275m over 10 years with the New York Yankees. So that's an average of $27.5m a year - which is also the highest ever average salary per year for a contract in US sports too. So R10s would be bigger than pretty much any team sports contract, ever, really. (Though I think a few F1 contracts are worth more.)
If I'm not mistaken Schumi earned about 40 Million € on his prime and experts put him on 600 million Euro for his entire career.
It's doable. LA would simply forego all image rights to Ronaldinho. Every single jersey, every single R10 boot etc...all the cash goes to Ronaldinho. Maybe not 32 million..something close to 20 would be my guess.
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 17 2008, 09:23 PM)
If I'm not mistaken Schumi earned about 40 Million € on his prime and experts put him on 600 million Euro for his entire career.
Yeah, his contracts were big. Kimi has a huge one too, I think it's around $40m a year!
From ESPNSOCCERNET.COM
Milan admit defeat in Ronaldinho transfer race
AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has admitted the club cannot compete financially with Manchester City in the race to sign Ronaldinho.
Galliani said Milan and other Italian clubs are being squeezed out of several transfer moves as clubs in England, Spain and Germany have more money to spend.
'I cannot ignore that Italian football is now in fourth position in Europe behind England, Spain and Germany,' he said in Gazzetta dello Sport.
'We simply cannot compete with certain figures anymore.
'Manchester City have offered the Brazilian (Ronaldinho) 12 million euros (£9.5million) a year. We can only compete with that if they (Barcelona) give him away for free.'
Milan admit defeat in Ronaldinho transfer race
AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has admitted the club cannot compete financially with Manchester City in the race to sign Ronaldinho.
Galliani said Milan and other Italian clubs are being squeezed out of several transfer moves as clubs in England, Spain and Germany have more money to spend.
'I cannot ignore that Italian football is now in fourth position in Europe behind England, Spain and Germany,' he said in Gazzetta dello Sport.
'We simply cannot compete with certain figures anymore.
'Manchester City have offered the Brazilian (Ronaldinho) 12 million euros (£9.5million) a year. We can only compete with that if they (Barcelona) give him away for free.'
^^^^
Then how come Inter don't seem to mind spending so much money on players Galliani??
Even Fiorentina and manageing to out do us in the transfer market. As I expected he's already preparing people to the fact that no star striker will arrive. This is his way of saying that
Then how come Inter don't seem to mind spending so much money on players Galliani??
Even Fiorentina and manageing to out do us in the transfer market. As I expected he's already preparing people to the fact that no star striker will arrive. This is his way of saying that
as sad as this story is
mac city is willing to throw everything at one player...we're trying to build a team
but still...pretty sad
mac city is willing to throw everything at one player...we're trying to build a team
but still...pretty sad
So for the past two years no one believes what Galliani says, now all of a sudden they r taking him seriously ... Anyways, I doubt this is true, cuz if it was he wouldn't even be bringing it up in the first place ..
I didn't even read past the first line. Milan can't financially compete with Man City..
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2008, 05:08 PM)
I didn't even read past the first line. Milan can't financially compete with Man City..
better believe it
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 18 2008, 11:36 PM)
So for the past two years no one believes what Galliani says, now all of a sudden they r taking him seriously ... Anyways, I doubt this is true, cuz if it was he wouldn't even be bringing it up in the first place ..
+1
It just another Galliani nonsense.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 18 2008, 04:36 PM)
So for the past two years no one believes what Galliani says, now all of a sudden they r taking him seriously ... Anyways, I doubt this is true, cuz if it was he wouldn't even be bringing it up in the first place ..
He talks crap about us getting this & that player and makes excuses when what we need are actions, but when it comes to the club's finances why would he lie?
Why not?
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Jun 19 2008, 06:10 AM)
He talks crap about us getting this & that player and makes excuses when what we need are actions, but when it comes to the club's finances why would he lie?
Why not?
Why not?
He doesn't need to say anything really, I mean it's not like he is asking us 'fans' for any contribution ... If anything, then it is just another attempt at sending a message to the other clubs that Milan wont be hassled.
By now, all the clubs know Milan need a striker, so 'up the price when Milan come knocking' ... In the end, Milan will end up with a WC striker, even if it costs 100MM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:49 AM)
He doesn't need to say anything really, I mean it's not like he is asking us 'fans' for any contribution ... If anything, then it is just another attempt at sending a message to the other clubs that Milan wont be hassled.
By now, all the clubs know Milan need a striker, so 'up the price when Milan come knocking' ... In the end, Milan will end up with a WC striker, even if it costs 100MM
By now, all the clubs know Milan need a striker, so 'up the price when Milan come knocking' ... In the end, Milan will end up with a WC striker, even if it costs 100MM
if he actually felt that way he would stfu, but being as desperate as they are for money we all know tthis is for season ticket sales.
and no your wrong. if if this WC costs too much, we wont sign anybody just like they did last year and year before that.
oh ya where's mr. "ronaldinho is ours as soon as he is for sale" berlsconi?
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 19 2008, 11:49 AM)
He doesn't need to say anything really, I mean it's not like he is asking us 'fans' for any contribution ... If anything, then it is just another attempt at sending a message to the other clubs that Milan wont be hassled.
By now, all the clubs know Milan need a striker, so 'up the price when Milan come knocking' ... In the end, Milan will end up with a WC striker, even if it costs 100MM
By now, all the clubs know Milan need a striker, so 'up the price when Milan come knocking' ... In the end, Milan will end up with a WC striker, even if it costs 100MM
Take it easy guys.
What's going on with all this fuss?
I hate this Galliani's nonsense as much as any bloke
and im one of those that hate our management policy
and R7 is on a different boat entirely.
But, the man speaks the truth this time.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 19 2008, 07:19 AM)
In the end, Milan will end up with a WC striker, even if it costs 100MM
Please don't exaggerate.
First...zd you'll have to find me a WC striker who's worth 100 mill. And then we can talk of Milan getting him.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 19 2008, 01:45 PM)
First...zd you'll have to find me a WC striker who's worth 100 mill. And then we can talk of Milan getting him.
Leo Messi! since Barca will not sell Messi at any cost, if a club want him, they have to pay his release clause to Barca, and I'm sure it's worth even more than 100 million.
^^^
120 million I think. Leo Messi is injury prone and even worse Argentine. I see no chance of Milan wanting him. The toughest part is getting Milan to want a player.
I'd really be happy, if we spent 30 million and got ourselves Cassano, Cigarini and maybe Mutu. Perhaps cancel Mutu and next season, we can get Boruc.
120 million I think. Leo Messi is injury prone and even worse Argentine. I see no chance of Milan wanting him. The toughest part is getting Milan to want a player. I'd really be happy, if we spent 30 million and got ourselves Cassano, Cigarini and maybe Mutu. Perhaps cancel Mutu and next season, we can get Boruc.
^^ I disagree. any team would be glad to have Messi at its disposal, even if he gets injured more than he should. he's a F gem.
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 18 2008, 05:48 AM)
It's doable. LA would simply forego all image rights to Ronaldinho. Every single jersey, every single R10 boot etc...all the cash goes to Ronaldinho. Maybe not 32 million..something close to 20 would be my guess.
No, no it's true. They would pay him 32 milions. 16 from his image rights and 16 would have been his salary! That's what they said in LA Galaxy.
That's a stupid amount of money, how can somebody possibly need that much!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 19 2008, 09:05 PM)
That's a stupid amount of money, how can somebody possibly need that much!
No one does. Same for 9m.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 19 2008, 01:05 PM)
That's a stupid amount of money, how can somebody possibly need that much!
i'd take it
QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 20 2008, 12:56 AM)
i'd take it
no ****
Tsk. Naughty!
Of course it's a lot of money, even the salaries now are huge and indecent. Can you imagine what's 1M€ a year?!
Rummenige has said something alone those lines.
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Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge has hit out at the way football clubs are allowed to run up huge debts and predicted financial meltdown if nothing is done about it.
The Bayern boss has labelled the current football world as “sick†as ever increasing wage bills threaten to cripple clubs. He also claims that clubs are going down a very slippery slope and that financial ruin will be the only outcome.
"Football is sick" he told Kicker magazine in Germany. "I read a statistic which says 85% of all professional football clubs are running at a loss."
Bayern are the biggest club in Germany and by far the biggest spenders in terms of both transfer fees and wages, but they are in a healthy position financially.
Rummenigge believes that Uefa should introduce a top limit on how much clubs can spend on wages, with "50 to 55% of turnover" being the upper limit.
"That would make football healthier again" he added.
The Bayern boss has labelled the current football world as “sick†as ever increasing wage bills threaten to cripple clubs. He also claims that clubs are going down a very slippery slope and that financial ruin will be the only outcome.
"Football is sick" he told Kicker magazine in Germany. "I read a statistic which says 85% of all professional football clubs are running at a loss."
Bayern are the biggest club in Germany and by far the biggest spenders in terms of both transfer fees and wages, but they are in a healthy position financially.
Rummenigge believes that Uefa should introduce a top limit on how much clubs can spend on wages, with "50 to 55% of turnover" being the upper limit.
"That would make football healthier again" he added.
There needs to be done something, do doubt about that. Maybe what Rum suggests would be good...
And I think all teams should adopt the Members thing... like in Barcelona / Madrid. I don't think clubs can make much money today, especially with the prices on transfers / wages / stadiums they have to pay.
And I think all teams should adopt the Members thing... like in Barcelona / Madrid. I don't think clubs can make much money today, especially with the prices on transfers / wages / stadiums they have to pay.
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