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post Jul 25 2007, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 25 2007, 09:00 PM)
Officially over....
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post Jul 25 2007, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 25 2007, 10:14 PM)

Why? Isn't this amazing? This suspense around the thing. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Love it.
It's like... everyone waiting for Ronaldinho and in the end get a Fred or a Baptista. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Seriously, you don't like Ronaldinho or you just hate this transfers-speculation @Milan? I've noticed some "anti-Brazillian-pony-tricks" in your speech lately.
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post Jul 25 2007, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 09:23 PM)
Seriously, you don't like Ronaldinho or you just hate this transfers-speculation @Milan? I've noticed some "anti-Brazillian-pony-tricks" in your speech lately.
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There's numerous reasons:
  • The first being I really don't think we will sign him, I did a month or so ago but now I think there's little to no chance.
  • The amount of news articles that come out almost daily in the morning he's coming in the afternoon he's not and vice-versa.
  • If the rough estimation of the price is what we could pay for him, no ones worth it.
  • I've never been Ronaldinho's biggest fan, yes he's good but not as good as some say. I see him so many times do extravagant things that just go so badly wrong, the only reason he isn't punished is because of the likes of Puyol, Xavi, Marquez.
  • I can't believe people complain about C.Ronaldo's season and his tricks, yet seem to love it from the goofy Brazilian.
  • We have Kaka! The best attacking mid in the game at the moment why on earth do we need another one?
  • Money could be spent far better elsewhere in the team and just far better in general!
  • The moment things go wrong he seems disinterested, not a real fighter like our players, look how many times in Europe we did it Bayern, Manchester United, Celtic, Liverpool real battles and I think it was our players character that got us through as well as their obvious skill.
  • How cluttered did Brazil's midfield look in the World Cup with Kaka and Ronaldinho? A bit like England's Gerrard-Lampard saga
At the end of the day if it was released on acmilan.com that we have signed Ronaldinho for £30 mil I like most other Milan fans would be extremelly pleased, but the figures being branded around are outrageous.
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post Jul 25 2007, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 25 2007, 11:22 PM)
[*]If the rough estimation of the price is what we could pay for him, no ones worth it.
[*]I've never been Ronaldinho's biggest fan, yes he's good but not as good as some say. I see him so many times do extravagant things that just go so badly wrong, the only reason he isn't punished is because of the likes of Puyol, Xavi, Marquez.
[*]I can't believe people complain about C.Ronaldo's season and his tricks, yet seem to love it from the goofy Brazilian.
[*]We have Kaka! The best attacking mid in the game at the moment why on earth do we need another one?
[*]Money could be spent far better elsewhere in the team and just far better in general!
[*]How cluttered did Brazil's midfield look in the World Cup with Kaka and Ronaldinho? A bit like England's Gerrard-Lampard saga

-Obviously no one is worth 125M/euros. But he is a world-class player: the best in the world along Kaka' IMHO. And if you want quality nowadays... you've to pay.

[And if we gave 25M for Gilardino... same for Oliveira... I believe Berlusconi would give 60 or 70 for 10R]

-Not as good as some say? Please. Look at the 2004/05 and 2005/06 season and tell me who was the world's best. By far.

-Cristiano Ronaldo is arrogant and play for a club that is full of arrogance in every ways. Arrogance FC. From Scholes to Rooney, from G.Neville to Smith. Plus... he's no way near Ronaldinho in tricks and pony-stuff. Even the likes of Zlatan or Robinho can do better freestyle than Ronaldo.

-We've Kaka'? Ronaldinho is a second-striker that can ALSO play as AM/LW. He'd be the ideal partner for Gilardino/Ronaldinho/Inzaghi [As we can't get Ibrahimovic, Totti, etc]. Oh and Kaka' is an AM who can play as SS too. Spot the difference?

-Yeah yeah yeah... with those 70M/euros we could buy Sneijder, Pato, Alex and Zambrotta. Sounds good? But it's up to Berlusconi. He won't do that and we all know.

-I shouldn't answer this. Parreira used the "magical square" with Ronaldo, Adriano, Kaka' and Ronaldinho with ONLY Emerson and Ze Roberto behind. That's suicide. Not even going to say why...
Ancelotti knows what he has to do. Way better than Parreira who was really stupid in that World Cup.
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post Jul 25 2007, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 10:44 PM)
-Cristiano Ronaldo is arrogant and play for a club that is full of arrogance in every ways. Arrogance FC. From Scholes to Rooney, from G.Neville to Smith. Plus... he's no way near Ronaldinho in tricks and pony-stuff. Even the likes of Zlatan or Robinho can do better freestyle than Ronaldo.

-Yeah yeah yeah... with those 70M/euros we could buy Sneijder, Pato, Alex and Zambrotta. Sounds good? But it's up to Berlusconi. He won't do that and we all know.
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So Ronaldinho isn't arrogant?! All the tricks he does to wind people up isn't arrogance?! Robinho haha dude you made a valid point until you mentioned that clown! To be honest arrogance to me means nothing because look at Gattuso! But we love him anyway (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

If only he would!
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post Jul 26 2007, 12:30 AM
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I've thought about it, and I don't think Ronaldinho is something for us.
It's because we already have Kaka. I don't think Kaka-Ronaldinho would work. I don't know but those two just CAN'T

so I think Eto'o is a much better option for us, and I think our chances with him would be higher than with Ronaldinho, since they recently added Henry, and they have too much Egos now.
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post Jul 26 2007, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 01:59 AM)
So Ronaldinho isn't arrogant?! All the tricks he does to wind people up isn't arrogance?!
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I think what he meant by arrogance is that, when United step on the field .. They already think they won the game, before it is even played .. The United players think they are gods gift to football ..

What Gattuso does isn't arrogance, in fact he shakes the hands of his rivals even after a game and accepts his defeat. Look at Ronaldo @ the San Siro, when Seedorf out dribbled him he went back and fouled Seedorf. That is arrogance IMO ..

And Ronaldinho ?! It isn't cuz he is the best player in the world at the moment with the ball at his foot .. But Milan has always been built with only the best that play in it .. I mean, Baptista, Cassano, Pato, Emerson, etc etc sure they will help the team in depth, but quality ?! I think we have better players than all the otehr options, after all we have Ronaldo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) What Berlusconi is looking for is to add quality to the team. Okay, I might be somewhat biased in the R10 - Milan soaps .. But still, he is a class player, one that would add to the team's strength. Just imagine, all we get is Ronaldinho for this summer. That means all of the "hyped up teams at the moment" would mean squat. Inter who ?! The Scudetto would be signed sealed and delivered along with the CL. That is how much I rate Ronaldinho. He got Barca a double, IMO he is still within his prime to do the same for us (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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post Jul 26 2007, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 25 2007, 11:59 PM)
So Ronaldinho isn't arrogant?! All the tricks he does to wind people up isn't arrogance?! Robinho haha dude you made a valid point until you mentioned that clown! To be honest arrogance to me means nothing because look at Gattuso! But we love him anyway  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

If only he would!
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Well, Ronaldinho is arrogant but he doesn't come out to the press saying he's the 7th wonder of world. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Robinho? Do you know him? I mean, do you know he played futsal (indoor soccer, in English) before football? Do you know what Ginga means? Probably not.

Check out about the last 1/4 of the movie when he goes with Falcao (futsal-Brasil NT player) play some minutes:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/searc...ga-brasil_sport

But as you English (specially you, the ManUtd fans (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) all hate Madrid more than any other club in the world... I accept. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Ronaldo doesn't have HALF of the tecnique Robinho has. Not even to compare with Ronaldinho...
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post Jul 26 2007, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 25 2007, 11:35 PM)
What Gattuso does isn't arrogance, in fact he shakes the hands of his rivals even after a game and accepts his defeat. Look at Ronaldo @ the San Siro, when Seedorf out dribbled him he went back and fouled Seedorf. That is arrogance IMO ..

And Ronaldinho ?! It isn't cuz he is the best player in the world at the moment with the ball at his foot .. But Milan has always been built with only the best that play in it .. I mean, Baptista, Cassano, Pato, Emerson, etc etc sure they will help the team in depth, but quality ?! I think we have better players than all the otehr options, after all we have Ronaldo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)   What Berlusconi is looking for is to add quality to the team. Okay, I might be somewhat biased in the R10 - Milan soaps .. But still, he is a class player, one that would add to the team's strength. Just imagine, all we get is Ronaldinho for this summer. That means all of the "hyped up teams at the moment" would mean squat. Inter who ?! The Scudetto would be signed sealed and delivered along with the CL. That is how much I rate Ronaldinho. He got Barca a double, IMO he is still within his prime to do the same for us (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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Granted, but that's frustration in my opinion rather than arrogance. In fact Fergie was one of the only people in England to rate us everyone else said it would be out of the English 3 but Fergie before and after the Semi's said that we are a very good outfit.

Then why do we sign players like Oliveira, Vogel etc? The problem is you complain about arrogance then you go onto say we are going to win everything with Ronaldinho, I don't get it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 25 2007, 11:39 PM)
But as you English (specially you, the ManUtd fans  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) all hate Madrid more than any other club in the world... I accept.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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A Man United fan? Because I reckon Ronaldo's good oookkk you make no sense whatsoever with that pitiful statement... Madrid is actually the most followed foreign team in England we have every game broadcasted live however you wouldn't know because you don't actually live in England do you? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It's a bit silly really writing things like that which you blatantly have no idea about (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

As for this Ginga rubbish which I'm not meant to know most probably because I'm English, it's the Brazilian fancy stuff that Nike follow ...
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 02:43 AM)
Granted, but that's frustration in my opinion rather than arrogance. In fact Fergie was one of the only people in England to rate us everyone else said it would be out of the English 3 but Fergie before and after the Semi's said that we are a very good outfit.

Then why do we sign players like Oliveira, Vogel etc? The problem is you complain about arrogance then you go onto say we are going to win everything with Ronaldinho, I don't get it  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Haha .. Yeah (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) But I did warn you that I was biased in the Ronaldinho - Milan soaps (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yeah .. I really liked Fergie's comments after our match .. Especially the one about the win bottle, and that he wont open it till WE lift the cup (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

We sign Oliveira and Vogel to sit the bench I guess. Cuz they never proved enough quality to make the first team .. But that is just me (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 12:47 AM)
A Man United fan? Because I reckon Ronaldo's good oookkk you make no sense whatsoever with that pitiful statement... Madrid is actually the most followed foreign team in England we have every game broadcasted live however you wouldn't know because you don't actually live in England do you? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It's a bit silly really writing things like that which you blatantly have no idea about  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

As for this Ginga rubbish which I'm not meant to know most probably because I'm English, it's the Brazilian fancy stuff that Nike follow ...
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Actually I know many people from UK, specially from London + visited more than once that city. Don't think that I just know people from 25km around Porto. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

As for the rest, I'll stop seriously. You got offended or so when I talked about Cristiano. The stupid thing right here is that I am the portuguese one.

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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 26 2007, 12:06 AM)
Actually I know many people from UK, specially from London + visited more than once that city. Don't think that I just know people from 25km around Porto. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

As for the rest, I'll stop seriously. You got offended or so when I talked about Cristiano. The stupid thing right here is that I am the portuguese one.
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Then surely they wouldn't tell you that everyone hates Madrid (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) There like on every weekend on our Sky channels seriously nearly every game including League, Cup and CL is shown live on Sky if not live they will have delayed coverage starting like an hour after kick-off!

I'm not getting offended about Cristiano! The thing to get offended about is being called a Man United fan, that's like me calling you an Inter fan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 26 2007, 02:39 AM)


WOW !!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I have got to give it to the Brazilians, football is in bedded into their culture.
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jul 26 2007, 01:10 AM)
Then surely they wouldn't tell you that everyone hates Madrid  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   There like on every weekend on our Sky channels seriously nearly every game including League, Cup and CL is shown live on Sky if not live they will have delayed coverage starting like an hour after kick-off!

I'm not getting offended about Cristiano! The thing to get offended about is being called a Man United fan, that's like me calling you an Inter fan  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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I didn't mean to say "ALL THE ENGLISH HATE REAL MADRID". I meant a great part of Manchester United fans hate them to death for logical reasons [History (no chance), worldwide fanbase (Madrid tops them), always lose against them in field, etc].

That's from what I read and know [the majority of the friends I got in London are ManUtd fans, suprisingly or not]. Maybe it's true OR not - I don't know. Just my opinion.

Actually I'm a fan, a big one, of all the things that make me laugh. Inter is one of them. Although they got my favourite footballer as you know. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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