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Habitant
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 11 2008, 09:30 PM)
Serie A is shaping up to have a real interesting season.

There will be a real tussle up top; Milan, Fiorentina, Juventus, inter and Roma.

While it wont be just interesting up top, there will be a lot going on, down the ladder for a UEFA cup position; Napoli, Genoa, Sampdoria, Udinese, Atalanta and Palermo. The interesting thing here is that two historic teams in Serie A history, Genoa and Napoli finishing 10th and 8th respectively just fresh out of Serie B.
As for my predictions ... And considering there will be someone big coming in .. Milan will be champions with a significant points difference trailed by all of inter, Juventus and Fiorentina. I don't think Roma will finish in the top four this time around.
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so i'm assuming your assertion is based on pure fantasy? smile.gif
acid911
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jul 12 2008, 04:26 AM)
so i'm assuming your assertion is based on pure fantasy?
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Or maybe undying love for the club? cool.gif Either way, we can do that only if we sign some players of the caliber of R10, Bezama, Gomez, or Drogba. The base is still there (Kaka, Pirlo, Nesta, Zamborghini, and of course Paolo), we've just got to build on it by injecting some new players. Lots of new players, now that I think of it.

Can't see us at the top, otherwise. Seriously. 3-4 at max with the current squad.
Habitant
QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 11 2008, 11:35 PM)
Or maybe undying love for the club? cool.gif Either way, we can do that only if we sign some players of the caliber of R10, Bezama, Gomez, or Drogba. The base is still there (Kaka, Pirlo, Nesta, Zamborghini, and of course Paolo), we've just got to build on it by injecting some new players. Lots of new players, now that I think of it.

Can't see us at the top, otherwise. Seriously. 3-4 at max with the current squad.
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yep but if you let it get in the way that much ur opinion means *****.

you can never just look at a squad on paper and evaluate them that way, because the same can easily be said about inter. they just added mancini who will fit in well there and their system.

the current squad has shown it's run out of juice, add zambrotta and a couple of other plugs and suddenly we make up the 21 pt gap plus more, come on very credible rolleyes.gif

Naughty term removed.
acid911
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jul 12 2008, 04:43 AM)
yep but if you let it get in the way that much ur opinion means sh7t€.

you can never just look at a squad on paper and evaluate them that way, because the same can easily be said about inter. they just added mancini who will fit in well there and their system.

the current squad has shown it's run out of juice, add zambrotta and a couple of other plugs and suddenly we make up the 21 pt game plus more, come on very credible
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You are right, we'll need more than plain band aids, to make it back up to the top. It will take more than one season, and it will take someone with infinitely more brain cells than Galliani has between his ears. wink.gif In simpler words, it will be a gradual process - one that takes both time, energy, planning and most of all money.

Then again, we can't use last year's result as a basis for analysis. The last 2-3 seasons have been absolute shtick, some with things beyond the management's control. Had we had Ronaldo fit and firing for the whole season last year, we'd have finished first. devil.gif No two words about that. Had Pato been born a week earlier, then too, a team like Viola wound't have stood a chance at being fourth. If Carlo wasn't one of the most stubborn coaches in world football, then too, we'd have been safe. Remember the whole bunch of points we dropped against smaller teams. Or what if Gorcuff was bred the way he should have been, so as to help our creativity? Or Kaka not being on the hit list because he won the Golden Ball? Pirlo missing that last minute penalty? How on world did he do that? mad.gif We lost 3-2. Heck, even if Pirlo and Gattuso had gotten back their form through the middle of the season, you and I wouldn't even be discussing this.

Then again, these are all ifs and butts. Point is, the 21-point gap isn't what it seems like. A lot of factors went into it, including the fans, the management, the coach, the team, Mr. B, the media, in no particular order. Granted our squad needs changes - that's for everyone to see - and I have no doubt in my mind if they are done, no one can touch us this year. The keyword is changes - how and when we do that is what counts. Get someone like Adebayor, then don't expect anything. puke.gif Carefully select the right players, mix them up with the current squad, and we'll be back to the very best. We aren't the first ranked club the the world for diddlydum! laugh.gif Afterall, we still have the best XI in world football - no one else comes close:

Dida
Zamborghini, Nesta, Paolo, Oddo,
Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf,
Kaka, Ronaldo, Pato

It's the bench that suffers. Remember what happened to Napoli 5-2. That was when we were playing total attacking football, with someone like Ronaldo leading the attack. Sadly for KaPaRo, it lasted a whole of one match. sad.gif How about the last inter derby, which we won? Seedorf, Gattuso and Kaka were really something in that match. cry.gif Or those 5 goal combos in those away matches? Can't forget that, last year. But for some weired reason we couldn't and didn't sustain that. Pity.

Now am I as optimistic as R7. Goodness no, sunshine! But even I can see everything takes time, as long as you're on it. Build another winning squad by 2010. But for Pete's sake, start now. huh.gif As in today!
kurtsimonw
Great post, and I agree with most of it.

One thing I disagree with it this: Time. The teams at the very top should never need to rebuild if they're being run properly, it's a gradual process between generations. I think this is the only thing we've lacked recently, we've just not really prepared for life after these players, and we're suffering. Of course there has to be a reason for this, whether it be Carlo's stubborness to change the team or the higher ups not having/wanting to spend the money, we'll never know!
Rossoneri7
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Bonera: "Maldini is my idol, and I am very eager to restart"






Less than a week before the players regroup at Milanello to start preparing for the season ahead after a vacation since last may, Daniel Bonera had stressed about his desire to restart the season.


The Italian defender talked via telephone to Milan Channel, he is still in Greece spending his last days of vacation with his family: "I have gotten the chance to recharge my batteries in this vacation and I am ready to work again with the same desire to to be at top condition."

He added: "I have a big desire in starting again. I will be available to the club, the coach and the team which I have been a supporter of since childhood. And that I am a part of Milan fills me with a lot of pride and satisfaction."

Bonera claimed that he was happy to be with Maldini again, who will continue for yet again another season: "He comes first as he is the heart of our team, he is my idol and the idol of everyone in Milan with the love and continues support he shows everyday to this club."

And Bonera talked about Milan's latest acquisitions of Cristian Abiatti and Gianluca Zambrotta: "Zambrotta's deal is great, as he always showed positiveness on the field with his previous teams and the national team. In addition, he is able to cover more than one position and is always a great addition to the team with his abilities. While Abiatti gave a good season in Spain, he is good and will come to cover the Goalkeeping position, which already was a highly competitive position even before he came."



Milanchannel
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 12 2008, 05:14 AM)
Great post, and I agree with most of it.

One thing I disagree with it this: Time. The teams at the very top should never need to rebuild if they're being run properly, it's a gradual process between generations. I think this is the only thing we've lacked recently, we've just not really prepared for life after these players, and we're suffering. Of course there has to be a reason for this, whether it be Carlo's stubborness to change the team or the higher ups not having/wanting to spend the money, we'll never know!
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All of it, please. smile.gif There can't be one reason for the kind of mess we're in. And yes, completely agree with you with regards to time. A top team should never have to go through this. There are cycles of success, yes, to an extent. Eras, if you will. But there has to be at least one world class signing, plus two regular signings every summer if you want to stay at the top. Instead we got people like Brocchi, Oliveria, and friends, who were not necessarily bad, but nor were they world beaters. In the midst of all this, we let pass people like Ribery, Ibra, etc.

We were in this mess in 1999 when we didn't qualify for the CL. An era came to and end then, and another began with the likes of Dida, Kaladze, Nesta, Sheva, Kaka, Rui Costa, et all. It's a shame we didn't learn from that, and dragged ourselves into the same fuss again now. sad.gif First Sheva leaving, then some bad signings, and then no signings at all. Like you said, Kurt, we'll never know the real reasons behind it, and that's a shame.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 12 2008, 12:27 AM)
All of it, please. smile.gif There can't be one reason for the kind of mess we're in. And yes, completely agree with you with regards to time. A top team should never have to go through this. There are cycles of success, yes, to an extent. Eras, if you will. But there has to be at least one world class signing, plus two regular signings every summer if you want to stay at the top. Instead we got people like Brocchi, Oliveria, and friends, who were not necessarily bad, but nor were they world beaters. In the midst of all this, we let pass people like Ribery, Ibra, etc.

We were in this mess in 1999 when we didn't qualify for the CL. An era came to and end then, and another began with the likes of Dida, Kaladze, Nesta, Sheva, Kaka, Rui Costa, et all. It's a shame we didn't learn from that, and dragged ourselves into the same fuss again now. sad.gif First Sheva leaving, then some bad signings, and then no signings at all. Like you said, Kurt, we'll never know the real reasons behind it, and that's a shame.
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Then hopefully we learn from it next time. When the likes of Ambro, Pirlo, Rino, Seedorf, Oddo, Zambrotta all go, hopefully we'll have ready made replacements to make it feel as there is no change at all.
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 12 2008, 05:43 AM)
Then hopefully we learn from it next time. When the likes of Ambro, Pirlo, Rino, Seedorf, Oddo, Zambrotta all go, hopefully we'll have ready made replacements to make it feel as there is no change at all.
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I wouldn't bet on it, as long as the man in my signature leads the club. tongue.gif Bring on Leonardo.
han2503
QUOTE (vahid @ Jul 11 2008, 08:42 PM)
At last Mancini going to be a Merda player! http://inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=29506&L=en
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Don't understand why Roma keep selling their best players to their direct competitors, making Inter stronger while they get weeker doesn't seem very wise to me. First Chivu now Mancini...
Rossoneri7
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Q. Gilardino, would you consider him as a flop ?

Carlo: "Yes, a little bit. There was something negative going on, as he wasn't playing to his full potential. He could have done more!"


Q. Where did he go wrong ?

Carlo: "Technically he can't do well when he is paired up with another striker, and he needs to be the focus point of the attacking unit as a whole, and it is an impossibility for that to happen in Milan with players as versatile as Kaka' and Seedorf. Prandelli on the other hand will be able to get the most out of him by playing him the way he likes. I can also add that he was suffering from a lot of hatred in the San Siro. He is a sensitive lad: which is not something to look down upon, on the contrary it is a complement for someone to have such characteristics, but considering the experience he had he needs to learn how to be stronger a bit."



He never really clicked with Milan. And I don't think Carlo is at fault here, because he gave him all the chances anyone could have given him. But I think what he needs is a team that plays for him more than a team that plays off of him.

It will be interesting to see how he does with Prandelli again, I wish him luck and hope his career kicks off again smile.gif
Fillipo Simone
Inter favorites? Of course.. But with a bit more focus on the Scudetto and a wider team roster, we can top them. No matter if Moe is their coach. He's maybe great, but he can't win against the Inter mentality..
kurtsimonw
"Technically he can't do well when he is paired up with another striker."

^^ Hmm, funnily enough he did much better when paired up with another striker. I remember we were much better when Carlo paired him and Pato we started to play much better going forward!
TriniKing_CE
It seems as if Jorge Andrade is once again injured ohmy.gif
For now it is yet to be seen the extent of the injury suffered, but like now a days its never to early for the media to begin questioning the players return. blink.gif
kurtsimonw
Poor him, he's really having a tough time of it. It is a shame. sad.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 11 2008, 09:49 PM)
I'm sure our resident Croats and fans of the Croatian NT will know more details, but Napoli lost a friendly today to Hajduk Split. Result was 1-0 for the hosts and I think the Hajduk keeper saved a penalty.
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Yep, it was his debut match and he impressed (the Hajduk keeper). Split finally managed to bring up a decent team, with lots of talented young players and a few veterans (like Igor Tudor). They'll do good this season, I'm sure..
Zed.D
I really feel pity for Andrade. this is just terrible luck...
Fillipo Simone
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Treviso midfielder Mingozzi killed in car crash

Serie B club Treviso are mourning the death of midfielder Gionata Mingozzi who was killed in a car crash on Tuesday.


The 23-year-old died at the scene after his Porsche collided with a truck while on his way to his team's training ground to undergo a pre-season medical.


Mingozzi made 17 appearances for Treviso last season, having made his debut in Italy's top flight with Sampdoria in the 2005-06 campaign.

'It is with profound sorrow that we unite in the pain of the family, friends and all those who had the privilege of knowing Mingozzi in this brief life,' said a statement from Treviso

Oh gosh,..
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 15 2008, 06:16 PM) *
Oh gosh,..


sad.gif RIP
kurtsimonw
Oh dear. RIP.
Jako19
R.I.P.
Ry4n
R.I.P
Locke Lamora
23 years old...R.I.P.
Rossoneri7
1st of September ?! ..... Can't wait cool.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 15 2008, 06:42 PM) *
1st of September ?! ..... Can't wait cool.gif

Ohh Yea! devilsmiley.gif
vahid
R.I.P


Melberg in Juventus shirt,it was a friendly game against piacenza
I like this guy happy.gif
Zed.D
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Juventus lost 1-0 to Piacenza on Olof Mellberg's debut, while the Amauri-David Trezeguet partnership failed to shine.


kurtsimonw
QUOTE (vahid @ Jul 16 2008, 07:42 AM) *
Melberg in Juventus shirt,it was a friendly game against piacenza .

I like this guy happy.gif

He just doesn't look right not in claret and blue. sad.gif
Habitant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 16 2008, 04:17 PM) *
He just doesn't look right not in claret and blue. sad.gif

do you think mellberg will be a starter?

i'm guessing chiellini will start at CB like last season, grygera at LB...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jul 16 2008, 06:39 PM) *
do you think mellberg will be a starter?

i'm guessing chiellini will start at CB like last season, grygera at LB...

I'm not really sure, the Juve fans seem to think he'll start alongside Chiellini in the centre.
m1ke
Does anyone know when the fixtures will be released?
kurtsimonw
July 25 according to wiki.
m1ke
Cheers Kurt.
CrazyMilanFan
Mourinho Takes A Stab At Ancelotti
Inter coach Jose Mourinho responded to Carlo Ancelotti's claims that he could never coach Milan because of his less than illustrious past as a player.

A few months ago, when Inter were about to win the Scudetto and Milan were struggling, there were rumours that coach Jose Mourinho, now at Inter, was ready to join the Rossoneri to replace Carlo Ancelotti.

The Milan coach reacted to these voices by referring to Mourinho's lowly past as a footballer: "Mourinho to Milan? He can't even kick a ball..."

The Portuguese coach never got past the amateur level, while Ancelotti played for the likes of Roma and Milan, as well as appearing for the Italian national team.

During the presentation ahead of the new season at Inter's Appiano Gentile training ground, Mourinho referred to this quote and gave the following response.

"Perhaps he has forgotten that in Milan's history Arrigo Sacchi made them play the best football," he said. "And Sacchi, like me, never played football at a high level. My dentist is great, but he's never had tooth ache..."


this is Jose for us and this is only the start
dst
Ha-ha! That'sa classic Jose quote about his dentist there... biggrin.gif
And what Carlo said is obviously stupid...
Rossoneri7
Interesting season ahead cool.gif


Mook
Ohh it certainly will be..

God I hope we can bury Inter and take Scudetto #18. devil.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Mook @ Jul 16 2008, 11:11 PM) *
Ohh it certainly will be..

God I hope we can bury Inter and take Scudetto #18. devil.gif



Taking inter to their usual position, second best in Milan would be sweet 96.gif


And going for the Scudetto, with a very competitive league, would just make this season so special !
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 16 2008, 09:56 PM) *
Ha-ha! That'sa classic Jose quote about his dentist there... biggrin.gif
And what Carlo said is obviously stupid...

Are we positive Carlo even said that about him in this way?
dst
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 16 2008, 11:54 PM) *
Are we positive Carlo even said that about him in this way?

OK fanboy, let me rephrase... that is a stupid thing to say and maybe Carlo has said it. tongue.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 16 2008, 11:02 PM) *
OK fanboy, let me rephrase... that is a stupid thing to say and maybe Carlo has said it. tongue.gif

That's it,.. wink.gif
Jack Sparrow
I don't recall such a thing, ever having been said by Carlo. It doesn't sound like him at all. It would be the sort of thing Mancini would say though.
dst
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 17 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I don't recall such a thing, ever having been said by Carlo. It doesn't sound like him at all. It would be the sort of thing Mancini would say though.

If he said I think it would be one of those funny jokes of him... that are not funny... but in any case, not serious.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 17 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I don't recall such a thing, ever having been said by Carlo. It doesn't sound like him at all. It would be the sort of thing Mancini would say though.


Carlo spoke today ... When asked about the Mourinho comment, he replied that it was a joke that he tried to say in English when he was asked by an English journalist, but was misunderstood because he doesn't speak English well and that what he said had a totally different meaning had it been said in Italian.



Man, Carlo has never taken swipes at other coaches, he was always the humble and wise man. But this is Mourinho, inter just brought the circus to Milan dry.gif
Mook
Buffon: Milan for Scudetto

Juventus goalkeeper Gigi Buffon believes that Milan are the favourites for the 2008-09 Scudetto.

The Rossoneri languished in fifth place last term, but San Siro is buzzing after the arrival of Ronaldinho last night.

Buffon’s Juventus are expected to make a bid to dethrone Inter, but Buffon thinks Milan are the team to beat.

“If you want my prediction, I would go for Milan,” the Azzurri No 1 told Panorama.

“The fact that the Diavolo aren’t playing in the Champions League next year is an enormous advantage.

“As for Inter, we will have to see what the Jose Mourinho effect is.”

The former Parma shot-stopper then gave an honest assessment of the Old Lady’s situation.

“Last year we had just come up from Serie B and we had this exaggerated motivation that we couldn’t have this year,” he said.

“We need to do well and find new stimuli. I think that Amauri has the ability to make a big difference for us.

“Christian Poulsen? He may not have the technical quality of Amauri, but he is the kind of player who makes a side solid.”

Link
Habitant
New inter jersey
kurtsimonw
THat's quite nice.
Zed.D
puke.gif @ Inter's new jersey.

Only two stripes? I honestly think it's ugly!
Ry4n
One word crap !!
Habitant
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 18 2008, 07:13 PM) *
puke.gif @ Inter's new jersey.

Only two stripes? I honestly think it's ugly!

i find it looks nice on the players

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