kurtsimonw
Nov 23 2008, 10:46 AM
QUOTE (Portikins @ Nov 22 2008, 10:17 PM)

Fantastic.
Zed.D
Nov 23 2008, 12:29 PM
Inter made Juve look useless

the thought of our 4 consecutive games against Juve, Udinese, Roma and Fiorentina scares me to say the least!
[pessimistic mode on]
we'll lose a lot of points in those game
[pessimistic mode off]
CrazyMilanFan
Nov 23 2008, 01:10 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 23 2008, 11:29 AM)

Inter made Juve look useless

the thought of our 4 consecutive games against Juve, Udinese, Roma and Fiorentina scares me to say the least!
[pessimistic mode on]
we'll lose a lot of points in those game
[pessimistic mode off]
even in relistic mode we will lost quite a few points but if we are to be optimistic then yea on our day we can beat any team
Locke Lamora
Nov 23 2008, 04:16 PM
Roma are taking Lecce to the cobbles, 3-0. Vucinic, Juan and Totti.
acid911
Nov 23 2008, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Nov 23 2008, 08:16 PM)

Roma are taking Lecce to the cobbles, 3-0. Vucinic, Juan and Totti.
Good for them.

Also sheds a bit of a light on our current plight. Fiddlesticks!
acid911
Nov 23 2008, 11:30 PM
Other results around the friendly neighborhood called Serie A.

Week 13:
1-1 Bologna-Palermo
0-2 Chievo-Siena
4-2 Fiorentina-Udinese
1-0 Inter-Juventus
1-1 Lazio-Genoa
0-3 Lecce-Roma
2-2 Napoli-Cagliari
3-1 Reggina-Atalanta
3-0 Sampdoria-Catania
2-2 Torino-Milan
Zed.D
Nov 23 2008, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 24 2008, 02:00 AM)

2-2 Napoli-Cagliari

cagliari scored their equalizer in the 95th minute...
acid911
Nov 23 2008, 11:54 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 24 2008, 03:41 AM)

cagliari scored their equalizer in the 95th minute...

Sorry, zd. But I can't help it. Not when it's Napoli.

Anyway, here is the Serie A table for this week. Had we gotten all three points today, it would have created a good 5-points buffer between us and the other teams from number three onwards. And had Juve won/drawn against inter we'd have been back at the top. Pity.

Some more dropped points like these, and I'll have serious doubts about our Scudetto challenge. Anyway, inter have yet to play both Napoli and Lazio in the coming weeks. So yeah, I'll be cheering for Napoli (the lesser evil) next week and Lazio too. inter, however, has the most number of wins in the league. Nine.
Zed.D
Nov 24 2008, 12:57 PM
And I love Roma's position!

I also love the name of the 4th placed team
kurtsimonw
Nov 24 2008, 03:58 PM
We fail to take advantage of two of our rivals playing each other, dammit!
Zed.D
Nov 24 2008, 04:17 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 24 2008, 07:28 PM)

We fail to take advantage of two of our rivals playing each other, dammit!
♫ ...I've heard it all before
you're saying nothing new... ♫
TriniKing_CE
Nov 24 2008, 06:03 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 23 2008, 05:46 AM)

Fantastic.

TriniKing_CE
Nov 24 2008, 06:04 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 23 2008, 07:29 AM)

Inter made Juve look useless

the thought of our 4 consecutive games against Juve, Udinese, Roma and Fiorentina scares me to say the least!
[pessimistic mode on]
we'll lose a lot of points in those game
[
pessimistic mode off]
You forgot your closing 'slash' [/]
TriniKing_CE
Nov 24 2008, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 23 2008, 06:54 PM)

Some more dropped points like these, and I'll have serious doubts about our Scudetto challenge. Anyway, inter have yet to play both Napoli and Lazio in the coming weeks. So yeah, I'll be cheering for Napoli (the lesser evil) next week and Lazio too. inter, however, has the most number of wins in the league. Nine.
We're not far behind...though so far Inter has played some tougher opponents.
Rossoneri7
Nov 24 2008, 10:12 PM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 24 2008, 01:54 AM)

Some more dropped points like these, and I'll have serious doubts about our Scudetto challenge.
Its too early to decide .. inter will commence CL football in January, in which case if there is a real push for the title, it will happen in the second half of the season.
I don't think its fair to draw a line just yet .. If the difference to start with is just 3 points. I dont mean that Milan will be walking through the back to back matches against Roma, Juventus and Fiorentina but the difference is not that big to call off even Napoli
There is approx. 70% of the season left .. In a season where several teams are on the same level.
Rossoneri7
Nov 28 2008, 12:26 AM
So its Palermo next ... This is a tricky fixture .. w/o Kaka' Milan might go for two strikers. I have a feeling Shevchenko - Pato.
btw, when does Borriello return ?
kurtsimonw
Nov 28 2008, 12:44 AM
Inter and Juve both play at home, so you'd expect them both to pick up 3 points so it is very important that we win. We can't allow Inter to get more than 3 points away, otherwise catching up takes too much time.
Rossoneri7
Nov 28 2008, 01:03 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 28 2008, 02:44 AM)

Inter and Juve both play at home, so you'd expect them both to pick up 3 points so it is very important that we win. We can't allow Inter to get more than 3 points away, otherwise catching up takes too much time.

I think max 5 points difference, otherwise it would be too blurry chasing the merda
acid911
Nov 28 2008, 06:47 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 28 2008, 05:03 AM)

I think max 5 points difference, otherwise it would be too blurry chasing the merda
You think right, my friend.
Jack Sparrow
Nov 28 2008, 08:33 AM
As long as we keep it under 5, I'm not worried. Eventually, the team's gonna get into must-win mode, and Inter have to play CL. With all due respect in the UEFA cup, playing Zenit or Fiorentina(assuming they don't qualify) will not require the same level of preparation as playing Barca or Chelsea.
acid911
Nov 28 2008, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 28 2008, 12:33 PM)

As long as we keep it under 5, I'm not worried. Eventually, the team's gonna get into must-win mode, and Inter have to play CL. With all due respect in the UEFA cup, playing Zenit or Fiorentina(assuming they don't qualify) will not require the same level of preparation as playing Barca or Chelsea.
Provided they don't come crashing out in the knockout stage?

Then it could get ugly. The one thing I don't want any members here doing is underestimating inter. That'll be our own undoing. Don't underestimate any team, but least of all inter. FACT.
Jack Sparrow
Nov 28 2008, 12:11 PM
This underestimating thing doesn't work. Since we're not up against Inter alone. It's more like a marathon where you rack up the miles at a steady pace.
I know Inter will drop points. So far, Milan are doing well considering we're playing badly, and still in second. I take that as a good thing. I'm also sure, about the winter renaissance, since it's been that way for the past 3 years.
acid911
Nov 28 2008, 12:28 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 28 2008, 04:11 PM)

I know Inter will drop points. So far, Milan are doing well considering we're playing badly, and still in second. I take that as a good thing. I'm also sure, about the winter renaissance, since it's been that way for the past 3 years.
It's been that way, because we've been playing real bad these 3 seasons.

And it just had to pick up sometime, so the winter break was now or never. I don't particularly think this will be the case this season, or at least not as impacting as last time, since we've already raked up (lucky, or otherwise) points. At best, we might keep doing what we're doing now.
But who knows?

Maybe Dubai will charm the team like it's been doing so for the past 3 years.
CrazyMilanFan
Nov 28 2008, 06:22 PM
somebody plz create the new match thread
amancik
Nov 28 2008, 06:48 PM
Milan usually kick-off in January, so I expect a completely different Milan after the break.
CrazyMilanFan
Nov 28 2008, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 27 2008, 11:26 PM)

So its Palermo next ... This is a tricky fixture .. w/o Kaka' Milan might go for two strikers. I have a feeling Shevchenko - Pato.
btw, when does Borriello return ?
we will play 4-3-2-1 emerson/flamini-pirlo-rino and seedorf-rino behind pato
Tennie
Nov 29 2008, 03:09 AM
Hiho all.
Back from Florence and a little groggy, but I'll make a couple of comments here, where they seem most appropriate.
The Franchi in Florence is a great old stadium. The ticket I got for Fiorentina-Udinese cost TWELVE EUROS. I was 9 rows up directly behind Fiorentina's technical area, so I got to watch Prandelli a lot. I was also right smack in the middle of a bunch of season ticket holders who found me amusing. They bought me a hot chocolate (VERY good and a little surprising to see that for sale in a staidum). They also caught me giggling at the 'Udine Vaffanculo' comments and got me to teach them the translation in English. It was sort of funny having a bunch of 60 year olds chanting 'f*** you' to Udinese.

Udinese were easily the better team in the first half of the game and then Fiorentina turned it on in the second half. Montolivo's 2 goals were really impressive. It was a very enjoyable evening! I also discovered that Gattuso is extremely popular, at least in Florence.
As for the other game that night, I watched it on replay. The cugini deserved the win on the whole, I think. Juve's offense just didn't show up. Perhaps a bit surprisingly, Gazzetta named Giorgio Chiellini man of the match for the game.
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 12:35 PM
Welcome back, Tennie.

Sounds like a fun little trip.
Zed.D
Nov 29 2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (Channel4)
Zanetti ready for 'deadly' Lavezzi
Saturday 29 November, 2008
Javier Zanetti is worried at having to face Napoli’s Ezequiel ‘Pocho’ Lavezzi on Sunday. “He’s deadly.”
Inter welcome the San Paolo side tomorrow afternoon and there are no doubts over who the main threat is considered to be.
“When Lavezzi gets into space, he is deadly,” noted the Nerazzurri captain and fellow Argentina international.
“I had already noticed him at San Lorenzo and you could see he was far too good to remain in Argentina.
“Napoli got themselves a great bargain, because there are few around with his pace and dribbling skills.”
Lavezzi has scored three Serie A goals this season, but his main job is to provide assists, earn free kicks and generally terrorise the opposition defence.
“We cannot leave him any space, because he is a phenomenon,” continued Zanetti in the Corriere dello Sport.
“He already proved it last season when Napoli ended our unbeaten record after such a long time.”
Inter had not lost for 31 consecutive Serie A games when they fell 1-0 at the San Paolo to Marcelo Zalayeta’s strike on March 2.
This term Napoli have been doing even better, as they currently share third place with Juventus.
“They have had a great start to the season and are the undoubted surprise of the tournament. We must not underestimate him.”
Zanetti is now Lavezzi’s teammate at international level, as both play a part in Diego Armando Maradona’s Argentine squad.
“Maradona is a great motivator and nobody is better at helping us understand what it means to remain in the history of your country.”
The Inter star was the captain of Argentina, but the armband has been handed to Liverpool’s Javier Mascherano.
“I took his decision in a very relaxed manner, because you don’t need to have a piece of cloth round your arm to feel important to the team.”
QUOTE (Channel4)
Cambiasso shrugs off trophy talk
Friday 28 November, 2008
Esteban Cambiasso gives Zlatan Ibrahimovic his opinion, but also insists “the Ballon d’Or is worthless” because Paolo Maldini never won.
His Inter teammate Ibra is determined to win the trophy presented by France Football next season, although the favourites are Cristiano Ronaldo and Leo Messi.
“Is Ibrahimovic the best I’ve ever played with? No, Zinedine Zidane could not be matched in my opinion, as he had everything required in the football manual,” said the former Real Madrid midfielder.
“I also had the opportunity to play alongside Messi for Argentina. It is difficult to say where Ibra belongs in the list of greatest strikers in the world.”
Cambiasso has again shown himself to be perhaps every bit as decisive for the Nerazzurri as Ibrahimovic, but would never be considered for European Player of the Year.
“For someone who doesn’t play in the final third, the Ballon d’Or is a miracle or a bizarre coincidence. When you see that heroes like Raul and Maldini did not win in their careers, then I think the Ballon d’Or is worthless.”
Ibrahimovic did his candidacy no favours when Inter lost 1-0 at home to Panathinaikos in a result that nonetheless qualified them for the second round.
“Our first objective was to qualify and we achieved that, but if you only look at the last game, then clearly we didn’t do everything we wanted to,” he told Sky Italia television.
“Every now and then a team can get it wrong. Of this week’s encounters, the appropriate one to get wrong was against Panathinaikos, not Juventus or Napoli.”
That 1-0 victory over Juve sent the Scudetto holders three points clear at the top of the table.
“Juventus have a great squad based on the side that got them out of Serie B. It is not true to say that last season they were not real title contenders, as they are this year as well.
“Milan made investments and will want to fight to the end, which they did not manage in recent years. The surprise was Roma, who had a bad start due to a series of setbacks.”
Forza Cambiasso
kurtsimonw
Nov 29 2008, 01:57 PM
Hmm. I disagree, to be the best ever you don't necessarily even have to be the best player in any season. And I think that's the case with maldini, at least since I've seen him play. Has he been consistantly great? Yes. Has he ever been the best player over a year? Probably not.
Zed.D
Nov 29 2008, 02:03 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 29 2008, 05:27 PM)

Hmm. I disagree, to be the best ever you don't necessarily even have to be the best player in any season. And I think that's the case with maldini, at least since I've seen him play. Has he been consistantly great? Yes. Has he ever been the best player over a year? Probably not.
Hasn't Raul ever been the best player in a single season before? or Del Piero... or Maldini...? I don't think so.
kurtsimonw
Nov 29 2008, 02:42 PM
I think Raul and Del Piero maybe have, I'd have to go back and check. People make it sound like just because you're a great player you should win it, but you really have to have an out of this World, exceptional season to win it. Like the winner of this year and last year did.
Zed.D
Nov 29 2008, 02:45 PM
Well, Maldini is a defender and it's very, very hard for a defender to win it. had Maldini been a striker or a midfielder he would have ended up winning a lot of these trophies, like candies
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 03:36 PM
I absolutely dispise Cambiasso.

But his comment about Paolo certainly earned him some well deserved respect in my eyes. Best interview I read all month, really. Thanks for posting it, zd.
Fillipo Simone
Nov 29 2008, 06:47 PM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 29 2008, 03:36 PM)

I absolutely dispise Cambiasso.

But his comment about Paolo certainly earned him some well deserved respect in my eyes. Best interview I read all month, really. Thanks for posting it, zd.

I agree, Cambiasso's also one of the few players I dispise.
Del Piero - last season. Raul - don't know exactly, but somewhere around 2000.
Maldini? Well, yes, exactly...he's a defender, and they occasionally win titles like Cannavaro, but they usually stay in the background. Baresi is another example, altough he had some seasons who were even better then his regular excellent one.
kurtsimonw
Nov 29 2008, 07:25 PM
I dunno, I've looked back as for as the mid 90s and I can not say any single one of them didn't deserve it. Maldini has always been a top 5 type player in the World year-in, year-out. But to me he's always been 2nd best to somebody. I think they do a good job at choosing World Player of the Year, very few I've ever disagreed with so far.
CrazyMilanFan
Nov 29 2008, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 29 2008, 06:25 PM)

I dunno, I've looked back as for as the mid 90s and I can not say any single one of them didn't deserve it. Maldini has always been a top 5 type player in the World year-in, year-out. But to me he's always been 2nd best to somebody. I think they do a good job at choosing World Player of the Year, very few I've ever disagreed with so far.
totti was european golden boot and he didnt even get to last 16 while RVN was and he was behind totti in every department that season 2 years ago fifa world player of the year is quite biased
kurtsimonw
Nov 29 2008, 07:38 PM
RvN? He's never won it. Since the turn of the century it's gone to very deserving players each year, like Ronaldo this year, Kaka', Ronaldinho, Zidane, Figo, etc. Not sure how they can be 'biased' and why would they be against Maldini anyway?
CrazyMilanFan
Nov 29 2008, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 29 2008, 06:38 PM)

RvN? He's never won it. Since the turn of the century it's gone to very deserving players each year, like Ronaldo this year, Kaka', Ronaldinho, Zidane, Figo, etc. Not sure how they can be 'biased' and why would they be against Maldini anyway?

i am talking abt the shortlist i remember both totti and ibra were not included
kurtsimonw
Nov 29 2008, 08:37 PM
I can't believe that, the shortlist usually includes about 40 people. Even players like Vidic have been put on the list this year, so I'm sure Totti/Ibra would have been. Irrelevant anyways, since they didn't deserve it.
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 09:13 PM
Juventus vs Reggina going on right now.

1-0 to Juve with a Camoranesi goal.
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 09:18 PM
Gosh, it's raining like hell in the stadium.

A very tidy blizzard. Juve playing good.
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 09:20 PM
Just as I type that, Juventus score their 2nd.

Amuri.
Tennie
Nov 29 2008, 09:22 PM
Yeah. glad I decided not to stay an extra day and go to the game. Man. blizzard in the stadium. Brrr.
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 09:35 PM
It's started to snow, Tennie.

Winter is officially here, then.
Tennie
Nov 29 2008, 09:38 PM
Well, you can see the Alps from right outside the stadium. It's only about an hour away from some pretty good ski resorts. Still...cold. Brr. And second half just started. Marchionni on for Camoranesi who took a knock in the first half.
There was a shot of Reggina players warming up just now. Di Gennaro was one of them. It'd be nice to see him play!
Tennie
Nov 29 2008, 09:57 PM
And Chiellini just scored the third goal. They're scoring goals for fun at this point, though how they're playing in the middle of a snowstorm is beyond me.
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 10:04 PM
This is the free flowing football I talk about Tennie.

The one Milan lacks at the moment. As if we're scared to lose. I don't know, something just doesn't seem right every time our team steps into the field.
Zed.D
Nov 29 2008, 10:06 PM
It's annoying to see other big teams toying with the teams we struggled so badly against.
acid911
Nov 29 2008, 10:07 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Juve score the 4th.

Wouldn't doubt one bit.
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