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dst
Oh I thought the new season had kicked off! biggrin.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE
Gigli: "We and Milan are the most teams that support the Azzurri with players"


Over the last few years, Milan and Juventus were the most teams that contributed to the Azzurri with top class players, unlike Champions inter.


Giovanni Cobolli Gigli had talked about this issue: "We and Milan are the most clubs dedicated to the Azzurri, and this is what differentiates us from the rest!"
Rossoneri7
Milan Friendlies:




26 July: Milan vs Lecce

29 July
: Tim cup (Milan, Juve, merda)

1 to 3 August: Russian Railways cup (Milan, Locamotiv Moscow, Sevilla, Chelsea)

17 August: Luigi Berlusconi cup againt Juventus FC


Two more friendlies will be played after that, probably against Anderlecht and Benfica, then the Serie A season will commence on the 31st of August



Forza Milan ! devil.gif
han2503
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 12 2008, 07:17 PM)
I'm wondering... is Galliani really clean?!?! rolleyes.gif
Inter, Milan and Samp fined for false accounting

ROME, June 12 (Reuters) - Serie A champions Inter Milan, seven-times European champions AC Milan and Genoa-based Sampdoria have been fined for false accounting, the Italian Soccer Federation (FIGC) said on Thursday.

Inter and Milan were hit with 90,000 euro ($138,900) penalties for financial irregularities between 2003 and 2005 that included inflating transfer fees, FIGC said in a statement on its Web site (www.figc.it).

Sampdoria were fined 36,000 euros.

Seven of the three clubs’ directors were also punished, including Milan Vice President Adriano Galliani and Samp President Riccardo Garrone, fined 60,000 euros and 18,000 euros respectively.

Genoa, Udinese and Reggina were charged earlier on Thursday with similar offences.

Genoa president Enrico Preziosi and Udinese chief executive Franco Soldati are accused of “stipulating contracts for rights to player services with far higher values that those really attributable to those rights”.

The FIGC prosecutor said the player values were inflated to enable the two clubs to meet the financial stipulations needed to register for the 2004/2005 and 2005/2006 seasons.

Reggina president Pasquale Foti has been charged with inflating transfer fees so the southern Italian club could register for the 2005/2006 Serie A season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-...uters&type=lgns
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Oh I get it! So this is where the money has been going...my bad rolleyes.gif
Zed.D
Considering the way Pirlo has been playing for some time now, I think we need to get a quality backup for him. I can't believe how bad he's been playing. yesterday he had 9873276482 wrong passes and screwed up all the free kicks he took. he seems really exhausted, we can't rely on him to perform like he should in all of next season's game.
han2503
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 14 2008, 11:23 AM)
Considering the way Pirlo has been playing for some time now, I think we need to get a quality backup for him. I can't believe how bad he's been playing. yesterday he had 9873276482 wrong passes and screwed up all the free kicks he took. he seems really exhausted, we can't rely on him to perform like he should in all of next season's game.
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Yeah well tell that to Galliani we've got 5421131 defensive mids, and not a single quality replacement for either Pirlo or Kaka.

Pirlo is playing the way he is because he's literally run down into the ground right now. And Milan still won't find a quality sub for him, next year will probably get even worse, because I can' see us buying another midfielder
dst
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 14 2008, 02:23 PM)
Considering the way Pirlo has been playing for some time now, I think we need to get a quality backup for him. I can't believe how bad he's been playing. yesterday he had 9873276482 wrong passes and screwed up all the free kicks he took. he seems really exhausted, we can't rely on him to perform like he should in all of next season's game.
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Pirlo was very good yesterday. He even was voted MOM. Maybe you think that's wrong and I agree but he is not some star player that could have been give the award just because he is who he is, he must have done something.

In any case, I agree with you, we do need a back-up for him. He is exhausted!
morgoth
I don't think Pirlo had particularly a good game, he wasn't bad, but wasn't good either. His set pieces were awful, I can't actually remember he delivered one good cross and he definitely don't deserve the MOM in my opinion, it should have been one of the keepers!
morgoth
Balotelli signed a contract extension according to Sky, he's now tied to la merda until 2013!
Ry4n
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 14 2008, 11:16 PM)
Balotelli signed a contract extension according to Sky, he's now tied to la merda until 2013!
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i feel for him he has to put on that dirty shirt for another five years lol tongue.gif
armiss
QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Jun 15 2008, 05:23 AM)
i feel for him he has to put on that dirty shirt for another five years lol  tongue.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Jun 14 2008, 06:53 PM)
i feel for him he has to put on that dirty shirt for another five years lol  tongue.gif
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That's why he asked for a lot more money... It was getting unbearable...
morgoth
Serie B playoff, 2nd leg. Lecce 1:1 Albinoleffe.

Lecce are officially in Serie A smile.gif
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 15 2008, 09:53 PM)
Serie B playoff, 2nd leg. Lecce 1:1 Albinoleffe.

Lecce are officially in Serie A smile.gif
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Milan have some link with them if i am not wrong bcoz we always do play a friendly against them
morgoth
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 15 2008, 09:57 PM)
Milan have some link with them if i am not wrong bcoz we always do play a friendly against them
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No, that's Lecco biggrin.gif
Devillito
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 05:04 AM)
No, that's Lecco biggrin.gif
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I thought they are the same club unsure.gif
Tennie
Hm. Another southern club in Serie A. Good for them!
dst
Bad news for Jack then!
Jack Sparrow
Hang on Leffe....10 more years of pimpin dst out...and I'll have enough to make you the new Chelsea. tongue.gif
morgoth
Don't forget to change the kit colour Jack cool.gif

10 years ohmy.gif Ok by then I'll eligible to be a coach smile.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jun 15 2008, 09:57 PM)
Milan have some link with them if i am not wrong bcoz we always do play a friendly against them
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Do we? Hmh,...
I can't remember any Lecce player we ever purchased..
Portman
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Riise completes Roma move

by JP Lonergan, 18 June 2008

John Arne Riise has completed his move from Liverpool to Roma, with the Serie A giants declaring that he has signed on a four-year deal.

The versatile left-sided Norwegian will join Luciano Spalletti’s side after falling out of favour at Anfield after seven years on Merseyside.

Riise, who has joined The Giallorossi for five million euros, made over 300 appearances under Rafael Benitez and previously Gerard Houllier at Liverpool after signing from Monaco. However, the emergence of Brazilian Fabio Aurelio saw his chances become more limited on the left in his final season on Merseyside.


http://sport.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Foo...etes-Roma-move/

2-3-4 seasons ago, he was one of the best LB's in the world. Then... something happened and became *****. Pure *****. Good for Roma.


Naughty words removed.
morgoth
I think it's a good buy for Roma, they didn't have a great offensive LB, now they just need to find the next Cafu (Rafinha!) and a target striker, and they'll be OK. Oh and of course extend Aquilani's contract!!!
kurtsimonw
Good player, just seemed to lose his confidence at Livrpool. The move is good for all parties involved.
dst
My opinion is that Riise is just another mediocre player that Great Rafa made look good. I really can't see why people rate him above average, he only has a good shot and can clean the ball with his jersey... that's it. I never liked him (as a player) and I probably never will.

That said, I hope he helps Roma beat Inter to the title! biggrin.gif
amancik
Lamps 'agrees Inter switch' Thursday 19 June, 2008

England international Frank Lampard has reportedly agreed to leave Chelsea for Inter, leaving the two sides to come to an agreement.

Inter President Massimo Moratti is looking to make three big swoops to strengthen the squad on the behalf of new boss Jose Mourinho.

And Mourinho seems to have set his heart upon a reunion with Lampard, who was one of his key men at Stamford Bridge.

While Chelsea have tried to discourage the former West Ham man from emigrating, he reportedly sees this as a great chance for a fresh start and has been lured by assurances that he can remain living in England while wearing the Nerazzurri shirt.

The arrival of World Cup winning tactician Luiz Felipe Scolari doesn’t seem to have changed Lampard’s mind and it is believed that he has officially accepted a transfer.

The two clubs are still to find a concrete agreement, but there are rumours that they will shake hands on a £14m deal.

“I’m not a nostalgic person,” Mourinho said when asked for his view on the speculation.

“But I recognise the players who have helped me win and I would never say no to signing Deco, Lampard or Didier Drogba. I’d like to work with them again, but it’s not an obsession.”

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an Englishman in Serie A? hurm ...
Jack Sparrow
^^^

Won't be the first time.

But I think this is tribal football. As far as I know, they are still negotiating his contract extensions at Chelsea. They're ok with his wage demands, but don't want to give him an extension of more than 2 years. Lamps wants a contract that will have him play out his career. I think 4-5 years. Otherwise, he'd like to go play off somewhere else, and then come back to finish off in England.
Portman
It seems that Inter is on a verge to sign Lampard and Mancini. Two top players.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 03:13 PM)
It seems that Inter is on a verge to sign Lampard and Mancini. Two top players.
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How come we, MILAN [Italy's richest club], are in financial crisis but Inter are spending millions each year? rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
We are the richest club in terms of assets. For all you know Inter has probably mortgaged it's own assets. In any case they're losing close to 100 mill pounds every year.

We could do the same, but I believe it is a management decision not to. Perhaps they believe this is a sinking ship(spending as much as possible). For instance, Manchester Utd find themselves in a situation where they just interest payments in the 100 mill range a year!! Since they want the club to last another 100 years, I can't entirely say I blame them. biggrin.gif
Portman
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 19 2008, 12:51 PM)
How come we, MILAN [Italy's richest club], are in financial crisis but Inter are spending millions each year? rolleyes.gif
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No we're not. [The richest] The fact that we've Berlusconi - the richest man in Italy as our owner as nothing to do with the club.

Different mentalities, different motivations, different ambitions.
Jack Sparrow
^^^

What Portikins said. Different mentalities and motivations. Silvio hasn't spent on the club since the Ronaldo transfer. We're running on our own steam now.

So we're basically at Arsenal level, when it comes to economics, except we have no Asian market,and no stadium assets.
dst
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 02:43 PM)
It seems that Inter is on a verge to sign Lampard and Mancini. Two top players.
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Two top players? Lampard is the one... who is the other?

Mancini is mediocre. FACT. tongue.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 19 2008, 01:12 PM)
Two top players? Lampard is the one... who is the other?

Mancini is mediocre. FACT. tongue.gif
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Ibrahimovic was ***** also, an arrogant ***** who never performed in top-matches.

Yet, he gave the last 2 scudetti to them though we've the "best player in the world" in our squad who can't do ***** beside scoring some penalties.

You guessed it. Naughty words removed.
dst
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 03:15 PM)
Ibrahimovic was ***** also, an arrogant ***** who never performed in top-matches.

Yet, he gave the last 2 scudetti to them though we've the "best player in the world" in our squad who can't do ***** beside scoring some penalties.
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I never said that about Ibra. Except for the arrogant ***** part.

You probably have not watched Kaka play for Milan.

Naughty words removed.
KillerMax
QUOTE
"Considero da sempre fondamentale il campionato,
che certamente non si può abbandonare per puntare solo sulla Champions League,
perché altrimenti si crea un problema di continuità nella squadra."

Massimo Moratti, imprenditore e dirigente sportivo italiano.


Moratti can suck my ****. This period of "success" which he bought, not brought for the club, with an scudetti printed on a paper and two others after weakening other teams (Juve to serie B and handicapping Milan) and barely even beating Roma, a team of much lower quality in terms of finances and players, will fade away. Their pathetic record in CL and their loser mentality shows their true colors. Now they have brought in a great coach in Mourinho, and he might bring them some short term success, but with Moratti at the helm, it's only a matter of time before their relationship will break up and they find themselves in the same hole. Milan's success on the other hand has been archived legitimately and it shows with our record in Europe, at the highest stage. Inter can and should enjoy this short term "success" after all their direct involvement in getting other teams weaker. They will be praised by only short sighted people and those are few and far in-between as the whole of Italy disrespect them, even after all of their recent "trophies". Milan, whether under the guidance of Berlusconi, his son, or someone else who might takeover later on, will be back for revenge. And I promise you, it will be a very very cold one.
Tennie
^^^^ 96.gif 96.gif 96.gif The fish doll gives Max a whole box of cookies.

Very nicely said.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 19 2008, 04:12 PM)
Moratti can suck my ****. This period of "success" which he bought, not brought for the club, with an scudetti printed on a paper and two others after weakening other teams (Juve to serie B and handicapping Milan) and barely even beating Roma, a team of much lower quality in terms of finances and players, will fade away. Their pathetic record in CL and their loser mentality shows their true colors. Now they have brought in a great coach in Mourinho, and he might bring them some short term success, but with Moratti at the helm, it's only a matter of time before their relationship will break up and they find themselves in the same hole. Milan's success on the other hand has been archived legitimately and it shows with our record in Europe, at the highest stage. Inter can and should enjoy this short term "success" after all their direct involvement in getting other teams weaker. They will be praised by only short sighted people and those are few and far in-between as the whole of Italy disrespect them, even after all of their recent "trophies". Milan, whether under the guidance of Berlusconi, his son, or someone else who might takeover later on, will be back for revenge. And I promise you, it will be a very very cold one.
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Brilliant post king.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 19 2008, 02:12 PM)
Moratti can suck my ****. This period of "success" which he bought, not brought for the club, with an scudetti printed on a paper and two others after weakening other teams (Juve to serie B and handicapping Milan) and barely even beating Roma, a team of much lower quality in terms of finances and players, will fade away. Their pathetic record in CL and their loser mentality shows their true colors. Now they have brought in a great coach in Mourinho, and he might bring them some short term success, but with Moratti at the helm, it's only a matter of time before their relationship will break up and they find themselves in the same hole. Milan's success on the other hand has been archived legitimately and it shows with our record in Europe, at the highest stage. Inter can and should enjoy this short term "success" after all their direct involvement in getting other teams weaker. They will be praised by only short sighted people and those are few and far in-between as the whole of Italy disrespect them, even after all of their recent "trophies". Milan, whether under the guidance of Berlusconi, his son, or someone else who might takeover later on, will be back for revenge. And I promise you, it will be a very very cold one.
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Bravo,.. devil.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 03:45 PM)
Yet, he gave the last 2 scudetti to them though we've the "best player in the world" in our squad who can't do ***** beside scoring some penalties.
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You are very unfair towards Kaka and what he has done in these 5 seasons for Milan. I feel ashamed when I hear these words from a Milan fan, but not uptight, because there's no truth in them whatsoever.
Portman
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 19 2008, 02:12 PM)
Moratti can suck my ****. This period of "success" which he bought, not brought for the club, with an scudetti printed on a paper and two others after weakening other teams (Juve to serie B and handicapping Milan) and barely even beating Roma, a team of much lower quality in terms of finances and players, will fade away. Their pathetic record in CL and their loser mentality shows their true colors. Now they have brought in a great coach in Mourinho, and he might bring them some short term success, but with Moratti at the helm, it's only a matter of time before their relationship will break up and they find themselves in the same hole. Milan's success on the other hand has been archived legitimately and it shows with our record in Europe, at the highest stage. Inter can and should enjoy this short term "success" after all their direct involvement in getting other teams weaker. They will be praised by only short sighted people and those are few and far in-between as the whole of Italy disrespect them, even after all of their recent "trophies". Milan, whether under the guidance of Berlusconi, his son, or someone else who might takeover later on, will be back for revenge. And I promise you, it will be a very very cold one.
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Pathetic record in CL and loser mentality? Well, we can do it the other way and say our last 2 seasons were Udinese-like in Italy. And us being the club that pay more for wages in Italy. (-36) + (-21) from the leader are interesting numbers.

Archived legitimately? Calciocaos - we're no saints.
Europe? We can use the Liverpool excuse. When was the last time we won the Serie A + CL? Obviously ending up in 4th or 5th, resting the players for 1 competition... etc bla bla bla.

Italy hate Inter? Italy hate every club that is in the top.

Revenge? Football is not about revenge. It's about results. And in that, we're country-miles behind Inter at the moment.

And IMHO that Moratti phrase goes directly to Galliani that every time a milanisti hear him and his stupid comments [like today] the first thing we think is: "Basta. Sei un *****************..."

It's still a naughty term even in Italian. Edited out.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 09:34 AM)
Pathetic record in CL and loser mentality? Well, we can do it the other way and say our last 2 seasons were Udinese-like in Italy. And us being the club that pay more for wages in Italy. (-36) + (-21) from the leader are interesting numbers.

Archived legitimately? Calciocaos - we're no saints.
Europe? We can use the Liverpool excuse. When was the last time we won the Serie A + CL? Obviously ending up in 4th or 5th, resting the players for 1 competition... etc bla bla bla.

Italy hate Inter? Italy hate every club that is in the top.

Revenge? Football is not about revenge. It's about results. And in that, we're country-miles behind Inter at the moment.

And IMHO that Moratti phrase goes directly to Galliani that every time a milanisti hear him and his stupid comments [like today] the first thing we think is: "Basta. Sei un figlio di put..."
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It's me against you. Kaka vs. Ibrahimovic. Milan vs. Inter. You can join the Moratti bandwagon because they are stronger now, but I'm staying put, where I belong and I will fight you and everyone who wants to join Moratti's side. Milan will prevail. And we will be a force to reckon with again. Every era has a cycle. I'm not changing my identity through this transition. Forza Milan!
Portman
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 19 2008, 04:49 PM)
It's me against you. Kaka vs. Ibrahimovic. Milan vs. Inter. You can join the Moratti bandwagon because they are stronger now, but I'm staying put, where I belong and I will fight you and everyone who wants to join Moratti's side. Milan will prevail. And we will be a force to reckon with again. Every era has a cycle. I'm not changing my identity through this transition. Forza Milan!
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I'm not joining any bandwagon lol. You're no more milanista than me.

The problem is that I can see the reality and how Milan is at the moment. Some of you still try to get excuses like the refs, and telecom and bla bla when we've a 50 point gap from them in 2 years.

50 point gap! Open your eyes ffs. And our fan-base in general is becoming a bit tired of the "a posto così", "primo ranking in UEFA", the "forza milan mentality" no mather how we're run by Galliani and co.

Oh and if you think I'm no milanista, I just criticize, bla bla... go check the big italian forums of our club where they insult Galliani and our politics in every single post.

Some of you would be chocked. Oh, but I just forgot. You guys are the "milanistas". laugh.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 09:58 AM)
I'm not joining any bandwagon lol. You're no more milanista than me.

The problem is that I can see the reality and how Milan is at the moment. Some of you still try to get excuses like the refs, and telecom and bla bla when we've a 50 point gap from them in 2 years.

50 point gap! Open your eyes ffs. And our fan-base in general is becoming a bit tired of the "a posto così", "primo ranking in UEFA", the "forza milan mentality" no mather how we're run by Galliani and co.

Oh and if you think I'm no milanista, I just criticize, bla bla... go check the big italian forums of our club where they insult Galliani and our politics in every single post.

Some of you would be chocked. Oh, but I just forgot. You guys are the "milanistas".  laugh.gif
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I'm sick of the lies too. I'm not necessarily defending Berlusconi nor Galliani. I talked about Milan. And my despise for Moratti and everyone who likes him. Read my post. wink.gif

Milan > Inter

That's how I see it. That's how it always will be no matter what the table says at the moment. Inter's supposed "success" is just temporary.
Portman
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 19 2008, 05:11 PM)
I'm sick of the lies too. I'm not necessarily defending Berlusconi nor Galliani. I talked about Milan. And my despise for Moratti and everyone who likes him. Read my post. wink.gif

Milan > Inter

That's how I see it. That's how it always will be no matter what the table says at the moment. Inter's supposed "success" is just temporary.
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As a club we'll always be superior to them*. As a team, nowadays, we're not. That's the reality.

*Though we should be that superior too in our relation with media, and this typical Galliani/Berlusconi/Braida talk just ridicules the club, make us feel bad and pathetic, make other club fans laugh at every quote they say, etc. And many, many other stuff.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 04:58 PM)
I'm not joining any bandwagon lol. You're no more milanista than me.

The problem is that I can see the reality and how Milan is at the moment. Some of you still try to get excuses like the refs, and telecom and bla bla when we've a 50 point gap from them in 2 years.

50 point gap! Open your eyes ffs. And our fan-base in general is becoming a bit tired of the "a posto così", "primo ranking in UEFA", the "forza milan mentality" no mather how we're run by Galliani and co.

Oh and if you think I'm no milanista, I just criticize, bla bla... go check the big italian forums of our club where they insult Galliani and our politics in every single post.

Some of you would be chocked. Oh, but I just forgot. You guys are the "milanistas".  laugh.gif
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If you want to radiate a Milanfan attitude stop allways mentioning Moratti, Inter and their greatness. I mean, yes they are champions, yes the won the title, yes they have 200 points more then we have. Do you think we're all idiots here? Do you think I woke up just about now and asked who's Italy's champion?? Why do you have to constantly repeat yourself? This is not criticism, this is not realism, this are no facts...it's a sadistic way of torture yourself and us. You radiate a negative energy and concentrate to fill that energy in about every post or comment.

And why do you have the need to land a bomb like that Kaka comment? What do you want? Test our commitment? Test our response?

I'm a bit tired of all these repeating comments..
KillerMax
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 19 2008, 11:03 AM)
If you want to radiate a Milanfan attitude stop allways mentioning Moratti, Inter and their greatness. I mean, yes they are champions, yes the won the title, yes they have 200 points more then we have. Do you think we're all idiots here? Do you think I woke up just about now and asked who's Italy's champion?? Why do you have to constantly repeat yourself? This is not criticism, this is not realism, this are no facts...it's a sadistic way of torture yourself and us. You radiate a negative energy and concentrate to fill that energy in about every post or comment.

And why do you have the need to land a bomb like that Kaka comment? What do you want? Test our commitment? Test our response?

I'm a bit tired of all these repeating comments..
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I concur.
Portman
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 19 2008, 06:03 PM)
If you want to radiate a Milanfan attitude stop allways mentioning Moratti, Inter and their greatness. I mean, yes they are champions, yes the won the title, yes they have 200 points more then we have. Do you think we're all idiots here? Do you think I woke up just about now and asked who's Italy's champion?? Why do you have to constantly repeat yourself? This is not criticism, this is not realism, this are no facts...it's a sadistic way of torture yourself and us. You radiate a negative energy and concentrate to fill that energy in about every post or comment.

And why do you have the need to land a bomb like that Kaka comment? What do you want? Test our commitment? Test our response?

I'm a bit tired of all these repeating comments..
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The truth hurts. I know.

But as a Calcio fan I've to talk about them.
Portman
http://www.acffiorentina.it/it/Articolo.aspx?Ctn=290708

Mutu just renewed with Fiorentina until 2012.
Tennie
QUOTE (Portikins @ Jun 19 2008, 01:23 PM)
The truth  hurts. I know.

But as a Calcio fan I've to talk about them.
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Your opinion may hurt. I don't think you've found truth.
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