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Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 23 2011, 03:54 PM

Man City haven't bought world class players

Do I even need to respond to that?

Edit: I thought you said World Class, not World's best, quite similar still but my bad.

All I'm going to say is aside of Ronaldo and possibly Figo (for a few years) the ones I mentioned were not the world's best either. They were along the lines of Aguero, Robinho, David Silva, Tevez etc.

Danny

Oct 23 2011, 03:56 PM

PS the EPL is not a battle of billionaires at all. Man Utd are effectively funded by their own fans - the Glazers haven't put their own money in afaik. Chelsea, yes, and City yes. But Arsenal? No. Liverpool? No. Newcastle? Not a chance.

In fact while a lot of EPL clubs are owned by rich people, a lot of them are the likes of Blackburn and Aston Villa, yet we don't see these teams gubbing everyone week in week out.

Danny

Oct 23 2011, 03:58 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 23 2011, 03:54 PM)

Man City haven't bought world class players

Do I even need to respond to that?

All I'm going to say is aside of Ronaldo and possibly Figo (for a few years) the ones I mentioned were not the world's best either. They were along the lines of Aguero, Robinho, David Silva, Tevez etc.

Didn't say they haven't bought world class players.

They have. They just haven't bought any single player who is the best in the world in his position. That's explicitly what I said.

Nothing against you at all, you're sound, but please don't misunderstand what I am saying so badly.

EDIT: just saw your update. Let's...agree to disagree

kurtsimonw

Oct 23 2011, 03:58 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 23 2011, 03:51 PM)

Man City haven't bought a single 'world's best player in his position' imho. They've just bought a lot of very, very good players instead.

I don't think anyone would call any of their defence the best in the world, ditto their midfield or even their attack.

It's just that they've bought wisely - a bunch of very good players.

They're a mile off buying the likes of Silva, Ibra, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Higuain, Rooney blah blah blah. Basically some of the best in the world.

Alot of very top players have self respect though. Ricky didn't go to City because he followed his heart, not his wallet.

And they have bought Silva?

han2503

Oct 23 2011, 03:58 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 23 2011, 02:39 PM)

I've never given Chelsea credit for it either... but City have taken it to another level with spending.

I don't remember anyone doing it to this level to be honest (Chelsea are the obvious alternative), United bred in Scholes, Neville brothers, Beckham, Giggs etc when they were in their prime. I'm not old enough to know too much about Liverpool in their peak but they didn't buy everyone right? I mean United weren't buying people like Del Piero, Vieri, Salas, Ronaldo, Figo etc.

City have who, Richards? Who came through their youth team.

Sure City take it to the extreme with their purchases, simply because of their extreme wealth. But it's still the same thing at the end of the day. and yes, United have produced their own great players, but they've bought some of the best players around as well.

No team can do it without the money these days, and yes, it goes back to these clubs splashing money as if it's going out of style. But it's a vicious cycle, you're either in or you're out. For the English and Italian teams to compete with the amount of money Barca and Real get through their TV deal they have to get some form of input from a backer. If they want to win then they need to spen. It's just the way things are. Do we have to like it? No, but I certainly don't blame City for joining in on it either.

And I'm happy they hammered Man U, it's been a long time coming for them.

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 23 2011, 02:51 PM)

Man City haven't bought a single 'world's best player in his position' imho. They've just bought a lot of very, very good players instead.

I don't think anyone would call any of their defence the best in the world, ditto their midfield or even their attack.

It's just that they've bought wisely - a bunch of very good players.

They're a mile off buying the likes of Silva, Ibra, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Higuain, Rooney blah blah blah. Basically some of the best in the world.

Agreed

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 23 2011, 03:59 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 23 2011, 03:58 PM)

Didn't say they haven't bought world class players.

They have. They just haven't bought any single player who is the best in the world in his position. That's explicitly what I said.

Nothing against you at all, you're sound, but please don't misunderstand what I am saying so badly.

EDIT: just saw your update. Let's...agree to disagree

Yeah, I genuinely mis-read what you said the first time thus the edit.

And Kurt, I'm guessing Danny means Thiago?

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 23 2011, 04:10 PM

QPR 1-0 up, there is some sort of god.

Danny

Oct 23 2011, 04:28 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 23 2011, 03:59 PM)

Yeah, I genuinely mis-read what you said the first time thus the edit.

And Kurt, I'm guessing Danny means Thiago?

I did indeed. Best defender around these days, even if he's not been quite as perfect this season as he was last year.

Danny

Oct 23 2011, 04:28 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 23 2011, 04:10 PM)

QPR 1-0 up, there is some sort of god.

A God with a sense of humour if Barton scored.

acid911

Oct 23 2011, 04:39 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 23 2011, 08:28 PM)

I did indeed. Best defender around these days, even if he's not been quite as perfect this season as he was last year.

Word.

Perfect everything. Including height and build.

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 23 2011, 04:41 PM

Chelsea are down to 9 and it's not even HT

Jack Bauer

Oct 23 2011, 05:05 PM

Not a good week to take Lampard as your team captain in fantasy

X-Offender

Oct 23 2011, 07:30 PM

1-6??? My oh my...

Rossoneri7

Oct 23 2011, 08:50 PM

Citeh 6 1 United - Highlights of the massacre

City are starting to shuffle its feathers on the EPL's finest ... I beg to question their credentials for the EPL this season, surely one of the usual top four will have to make way yet again for City. Its nice to watch something other than the usual United-Chelsea-Arsenal triangle dominating the headlines for a change.

Makes for a very interesting season

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 23 2011, 09:38 PM

They'll spend another £100m+ in January if needs be, I think they will win it.

X-Offender

Oct 24 2011, 12:32 AM

Thanks for the highlights, R7.

"On a scale from 1-6, what do you think how Man.Utd fans feel right now?"

Jack Bauer

Oct 24 2011, 01:26 AM

Fillipo Simone

Oct 24 2011, 01:31 AM

I see de Gea is turning into yet another of United's master goalies.

acid911

Oct 24 2011, 03:27 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 24 2011, 04:32 AM)

"On a scale from 1-6, what do you think how Man.Utd fans feel right now?"

Nice. Here's another one:

SAF's Wife: "Honey, wake up, it's 7"
SAF: "What? They scored another?!!!!"

Rossoneri7

Oct 24 2011, 06:23 AM

Got this as a message when I woke up this morning :

Boy: Hello
Girl: Hey
Boy: Can I **** you 6 times in 90 mins?
Girl: WTF?! .. Do you think I'm Manchester United ??

acid911

Oct 24 2011, 07:14 AM

Well United has this coming, some very pedestrian defending on the last few goals.

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 24 2011, 07:48 AM

There is no doubting De Gea is truly terrible and not nearly physical enough for the league, I mean if you put Jermain Defoe in goal he'd have more presence about him. Though I can't really say the goals were his fault.

Amazing how you can look fairly good in Spain and pretty bad in England

Jack Sparrow

Oct 24 2011, 08:25 AM

The tendency to let the ball go in between his legs..is a bit much. He is a good shot stopper..but I think tussles in the box are not his thing...

kurtsimonw

Oct 24 2011, 08:46 AM

If he were a good shot stopper he'd have saved Dzeko's that was right at him, as opposed to diving over it. I thought he was an average EPL keeper, definitely overrated him there, bottom 6 EPL keeper.

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 24 2011, 08:51 AM

He does what you don't want in a keeper - makes every save that he does make OTT and completely uncoordinated. He must be one of the weakest guys on the planet too.

United should have gone for Stekelenburg, a ton cheaper and a lot better.

Danny

Oct 24 2011, 11:50 AM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 24 2011, 07:48 AM)

There is no doubting De Gea is truly terrible and not nearly physical enough for the league, I mean if you put Jermain Defoe in goal he'd have more presence about him. Though I can't really say the goals were his fault.

Amazing how you can look fairly good in Spain and pretty bad in England

Or fairly good in Spain then quite astonishingly brilliant in England (Silva).

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 24 2011, 02:59 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 24 2011, 11:50 AM)

Or fairly good in Spain then quite astonishingly brilliant in England (Silva).

Silva has always been astonishingly good, I think he had one iffy season where he was battling injury. Now he's lighting up the Prem as he has better players around him too in the City side, take nothing away from him though the little man is a genious.

Apparently Balotelli is driving around in a open-top Bentley with music blaring and high fiving Man City fans, this guy is pure brilliance

Zed.D

Oct 24 2011, 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 24 2011, 10:18 AM)

Amazing how you can look fairly good in Spain and pretty bad in England

I think I know what you're trying to imply here.

but let's not start a war over it.

kurtsimonw

Oct 24 2011, 04:09 PM

Phil Dowd's Villa record
Won - 4
Drew - 6
Lost - 10

That's 0.9 points per game and on the average season that's relegation form. A mate of mine looked over the records of 6 other refs and they were all within 0.1/0.2 points per game of each other, yet Dowd is so far off. Looking through his games you can see so much **** as well. Our only defeat at the Emirates after a Cesc dive. A 4-4 draw at Chelsea when we were 2-0 up before he randomly sent of Zat Knight and gave them a penalty to turn the game. Then obviously the Carling Cup Final and his failure to send Vidic off when Gabby went through on goal. Be interesting to see how many penalties he's given against us as well, I remember one against West Ham a few years back which was nothing more than an outstanding tackle by Habib Beye. Even our 4-2 win over City that he reffed involved a penalty against us when I believe it was Elano tripped over his own damn leg! I rekcon the penalty number would be another abnormal stat. The man should flat out not allowed to ref our games.

The worst thing of all is that he's from Staffordshire. How can a ref from the Midlands be allowed to ref Villa games? He's probably a small heath fan for fucks sake.

I_Rossoneri

Oct 24 2011, 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 24 2011, 02:59 PM)

Silva has always been astonishingly good, I think he had one iffy season where he was battling injury. Now he's lighting up the Prem as he has better players around him too in the City side, take nothing away from him though the little man is a genious.

Apparently Balotelli is driving around in a open-top Bentley with music blaring and high fiving Man City fans, this guy is pure brilliance

You gotta love Balotelli

I think he's extremely talented and would make an excellent addition to our team. Can you imagine him scoring for us(especially the winner) in the derby?

kurtsimonw

Oct 26 2011, 07:29 AM

Fair play to City. Fining Tevez and won't sell at a cut price. Hope your life is a misery you overpaid selfish prick.

kurtsimonw

Oct 26 2011, 03:46 PM

The life of Super Mario.

QUOTE

>Survived a usually fatal disease at birth
>£10,000 in parking fines
>Car impounded 27 times
>£300,000 fine for throwing darts at the youth team
>Won £25,000 in a casino, gave £1,000 to a tramp outside
>Rescued a child from bullying
>Threw tomatoes at some Serie A manager
>Threw water balloons at Serie A meeting
>Started a fight with 4 bouncers, after breaking the no touching rule at a strip club
>Thinks milk with tea is strange
>Started fights with Kompany and Tevez at training
>Was frequently seen at the AC Milan superstore while playing for inter
>Went on TV in an AC shirt with his name on while at inter
>U21s game for Italy, kicks a swedish player while he’s down and proceeds to just sit on the pitch ignoring the opposition and the referee for about a minute.
>Is then offended when he gets sent off and protests about it
>He winked at Ferdinand at the semi final of the FA cup and celebrate in front of the Man U fans.
>After the FA cup final, on live TV, says “This season I have been ****. Can I say that?”
>Was stopped by police driving round Hulme (a real shithole) in his maserati with £25,000 cash on the passenger seat. When asked why he said “because I’m rich”
>Had to go off at half time in a game in Ukraine due to an allergy to the pitch
>Had to be physically hauled away by Zanetti for refusing to let Samuel Eto’o take a penalty that he had won
>Once broke up with a girlfriend via text while she was presenting a live television show
>Slept with a model while his girlfriend was asleep downstairs
>Drove his car into a women’s prison so he could have a look around
>Attempted a roulette back heel shot against LA Galaxy and missed
>Connections with the Naples Mafia, he even testified in court at a Mafia trial
>Brought iPad to bench during International friendly.

>"Even when I have had bad moments they have supported me," he said. "But I don't care what people say about me. I am focused on my football, my manager, girlfriends and my family."

>According to Mirror Football, Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli pulled a genuine Balotelli move when he taunted Wayne Rooney’s prostitute Jenny Thompson in a crowded restaurant. The genius Italian striker was said to have chanted “Rooney, Rooney” at Thompson and a companion whose complaints were met by Mario blowing a raspberry in her face.

Danny

Oct 27 2011, 12:44 PM

So was John Terry racist to Ferdinand or not?

han2503

Oct 27 2011, 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 27 2011, 12:44 PM)

So was John Terry racist to Ferdinand or not?

Probably not, but he probably slept with his wife or girlfriend

kurtsimonw

Oct 27 2011, 04:39 PM

I doubt it. Terry admitted saying certain things, but apparently it's a matter of context. He said he thought Ferdinand accused him of saying something and Terry responded saying "I never called you a..". The fact Ferdinand hasn't complained speaks volumes. Also that Terry backed the investigation into it so he could have his name cleared, why would you do that if you know you were guilty? If it wasn't Terry, it'd be a complete none story.

Jack Sparrow

Oct 28 2011, 06:19 AM

Yup..I'm more convinced Cesc did something than Terry.

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 28 2011, 03:29 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 28 2011, 06:19 AM)

Yup..I'm more convinced Cesc did something than Terry.

Same, to be honest.

kurtsimonw

Oct 28 2011, 04:13 PM

Apparently racism is pretty normal and seemingly 'acceptable' in Spain.

An official team picture taken of the Spanish basketball team before the Beijing Olympics.

Imagine if that was done over here? The team would be hanged!

arivanjj

Oct 29 2011, 01:55 AM

what a bunch of idiots. i dont get what theyre thinking is this like a new trend to insult chinese people..

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 29 2011, 01:33 PM

Mertesacker can't defend, can't run, no sense of position, can't even header, would probably get beaten in the air by Aaron Lennon. Now I see what Kurt meant a few weeks back.

5-3, great game.

Danny

Oct 29 2011, 02:46 PM

Today has proven without a shadow of a doubt that the EPL is f*cked up this season.

Some of the results have been bonkers.

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 29 2011, 03:02 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 29 2011, 02:46 PM)

Today has proven without a shadow of a doubt that the EPL is f*cked up this season.

Some of the results have been bonkers.

That game was god damn entertaining though.

Danny

Oct 29 2011, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Oct 29 2011, 03:02 PM)

That game was god damn entertaining though.

I didn't watch it, Rangers were on ESPN.

kurtsimonw

Oct 29 2011, 10:31 PM

Who needs **** refs when linesman can cost you games too? Ah well, we should've dealt with the free kick even if it shouldn't have been one.

Bent had his name on lights but a damn good save by Westwood denied him. Yet another superb goal from Petrov, been absoloutely outstanding this season.

kurtsimonw

Oct 30 2011, 10:08 PM

Top stadium, in my opinion. Has the look of a traditional stadium, but modern at the same time. I like it.

Even spotted my dad and me on MotD after they showed the Villa fans after Petrov's goal.

That steward in the bottom right in orange got smacked in the face when we scored our 2nd and rightfully so. He kicked out a kid after about 15 minutes for standing up. Everyone was standing up!

Milan Are Brilliant

Oct 31 2011, 02:31 PM

It looks nice Kurt, even better that they have a stand named after Shay Given

Doncaster have signed Diouf...

kurtsimonw

Oct 31 2011, 04:35 PM

He's not good enough for Doncaster!

Danny

Nov 1 2011, 03:21 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 31 2011, 03:35 PM)

He's not good enough for Doncaster!

Have to say he was pretty poor at Ibrox.

kurtsimonw

Nov 1 2011, 05:16 PM

I completely forgot he went there last season. Rangers can do far better.

Milan Are Brilliant

Nov 1 2011, 11:09 PM

So the police are getting involved for the Anton Ferdinand incident with Terry. If he's lying Ferdinand should have the book thrown at him.