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Portman
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No Torres Negotiations - Atletico Insist

Atletico Madrid have denied that they are in negotiations with Liverpool over the sale of striker Fernando Torres.

Reports this morning claimed the Spanish international was on the verge of sealing the move to the Premiership, but while this appears to be premature the La Liga club have admitted that the situation may change.

It has been suggested that Liverpool have struck a deal involved £20m and Luis Garcia, but the 23-year-old is still very much in the plans of Atletico ahead of the resumption of pre-season training in ten days time.

A club spokesperson said: "At the moment, there is nothing happening. There are no negotiations taking place, although things can change.

"The player is on holiday at the moment and will report back to training on July 9 for the Intertoto match (at the end of July).

"At the moment, any talk of a move is just speculation and we are still hopeful that Fernando will be with us next season."


Must be the best denial ever. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



Boss wants Torres. Boss gets Torres. wink.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 29 2007, 12:00 PM)
Must be the best denial ever.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif



Boss wants Torres. Boss gets Torres.  wink.gif
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That's just silly. Everybody knows they're in talks, I just hope they last long enough so that he misses the season opener. tongue.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 09:06 AM)
I really do hate Spurs...
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Let's focus on the English teams you do not hate... it'll be easier! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 01:04 PM)
That's just silly. Everybody knows they're in talks, I just hope they last long enough so that he misses the season opener.  tongue.gif
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I think the big problem is for Atletico. The way they're going to say "OK, Torres left".

I mean, he's their icon, their symbol, their captain. Must be hard for the Atletico directors to explain the move. So it's better for them Liverpool pays the buy-out so they can say "we can't do anything". (Just like their president said 2 or 3 days ago)

Anyway, I READ THAT Forlan and Riquelme seem to be on their way to Atletico.
Portman
Bent for almost 25M/euros.

Good deal for Spurs but still... too much fowards. Berbatov, Keane, Bent, Defoe. Who's gonna leave? Defoe? I like that guy. Always seemed a nice player to me.
dst
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 29 2007, 03:11 PM)
Anyway, I Forlan and Riquelme seem to be on their way to Atletico.
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So... you're gonna be playing for Atlético next season... I thought you are a Real fan... I guess the money is good! tongue.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 29 2007, 12:13 PM)
Bent for almost 25M/euros.

Good deal for Spurs but still... too much fowards. Berbatov, Keane, Bent, Defoe. Who's gonna leave? Defoe? I like that guy. Always seemed a nice player to me.
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Great deal for Bent, he'll show that he's worth every penny of that. The best striker England have in my opinion, better than Defoe/Rooney/Crouch/Owen. wink.gif

Defoe and Mido will leave this season I reckon. Defoe wants a move to the top 4, but there's no chance of that. I wouldn't be surprised if he was at Villa for next season, he'd be a decent replacement for Baros.

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Let's focus on the English teams you do not hate... it'll be easier!

I don't hate THAT many teams. tongue.gif
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 29 2007, 01:19 PM)
So... you're gonna be playing for Atlético next season... I thought you are a Real fan... I guess the money is good! tongue.gif
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Always there to fvck me up you dirrty c*nt. biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 29 2007, 03:31 PM)
Always there to fvck me up you dirrty c*nt.  biggrin.gif
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misha
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Midfielder agrees £2m Blues switch

THE Birmingham Mail understands that Blues have finally secured French international Olivier Kapo from Juventus in a £2 million deal.

Other clubs tried to hijack the transfer at the death, including Fulham, but he has committed to Blues.

Kapo, who spent last season on loan to Spanish club Levante, is due to complete the formalities of the move next week when Blues report back for training.

Blues jumped to the head of the queue on Tuesday when Kapo, the former Auxerre star, flew into Birmingham for talks after the fee was agreed with Juventus.


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Blues takeover moves a step closer

THE Blues takeover edged closer today after shares in the Hong Kong firm bidding for a majority stake at St Andrew's were suddenly suspended.

Grandtop International Holdings Ltd announced to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange it was suspending shares "pending release of an announcement regarding a possible notifiable transaction of a price sensitive nature".

The move coincided with an announcement of the Blues deal to the London Stock Exchange by textiles firm Grandtop - Hong Kong billionaire Carson Yeung's Far East vehicle for buying a 29.9 per cent stake in the club.

Birmingham stockbroker Peter Knowles said the suspension of shares was a clear indication of Mr Yeung's intent through Grandtop to move in on St Andrew's.

In your face Villa!! Forza Bluesssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smile.gif
Portman
Birmingham for the Champions League! biggrin.gif
Man City too! cool.gif

Hope those teams beat United - those arrongant c*nts.
kurtsimonw
Blues current board are worth over a billion. Having a new billionnaire owner will not make a difference. wink.gif

Blues had Mikael Forssell, Walter Pandiani, Jermaine Pennant, Cristophe Dugarry, Chris Sutton and Jesper Gronjaer last time they were in the Premier League.

They've sold off alot of their decent players over the last season, Kapo and that Scottish guy won't make a difference, they'll survive, but nothing more. cool.gif
Milan Are Brilliant
Why have they bought Bent? He's good but he's not £16.8 million good, Charlton have done well there. The other reason being their strike partnership is astounding they have quite possibly the most complete attacker in Berbatov who playing with Keane just compliment each other so well.

They need midfielders and defenders to improve not more attackers.
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 04:24 PM)
They've sold off alot of their decent players over the last season, Kapo and that Scottish guy won't make a difference, they'll survive, but nothing more.  cool.gif
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We are slowly building. Blues gonna bring a few more good players this season but this all the beginning of 3-4 year process and in the end of it we are gonna make Villa our b!tch for a looooong time cool.gif
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 29 2007, 01:37 PM)
we are gonna make Villa our b!tch for a looooong time  cool.gif
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It's Villa's best part of the season, no games played and due to the alphabetics in the Premier League they currently stand 2nd cool.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jun 29 2007, 02:44 PM)
It's Villa's best part of the season, no games played and due to the alphabetics in the Premier League they currently stand 2nd  cool.gif
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laugh.gif That's low.

I think Aston Villa should buy David Villa. Just for the jokes and that. biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jun 29 2007, 01:44 PM)
It's Villa's best part of the season, no games played and due to the alphabetics in the Premier League they currently stand 2nd  cool.gif
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It is actually true. tongue.gif

Mishale sound slike a typical Blues fan "This is a 3-4 year thing". They built up a superb squad over 3 years last time they were up. What heppened then? Relegated. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 29 2007, 01:48 PM)
laugh.gif That's low.

I think Aston Villa should buy David Villa. Just for the jokes and that.  biggrin.gif
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Nah, he's not good enough. biggrin.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 04:57 PM)
Mishale sound slike a typical Blues fan "This is a 3-4 year thing". They built up a superb squad over 3 years last time they were up. What heppened then? Relegated.  rolleyes.gif
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That was during the 100 year curse. Now it's different. You'll see what's like being over and over owned (toughly) by your City rival wink.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 29 2007, 02:08 PM)
That was during the 100 year curse. Now it's different. You'll see what's like being over and over owned (toughly) by your City rival wink.gif
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I'll see what it's like?

I know what it's like.

The first year in the Premier League they did the double, the next year it was two draws, the next year they did the double again. sad.gif

Fortunately we did the double over them in the last season, not only that, but relegated them. biggrin.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 05:14 PM)
The first year in the Premier League they did the double, the next year it was two draws, the next year they did the double again.  sad.gif
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History will repeat herself
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Fortunately we did the double over them in the last season, not only that, but relegated them.  biggrin.gif

Except this part smile.gif
kurtsimonw
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Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon has dismissed renewed speculation linking Dutch winger Arjen Robben with Real Madrid.

Reports in Friday's newspapers claimed that the Spanish champions were closing in on the player that president Ramon Calderon has always coveted.

Calderon made signing Robben one of his election pledges in 2006 and, whilst the Holland international remains at Stamford Bridge, the Real supremo is known to still be a fan.

At the start of June, Los Merengues made clear their desire to bring Robben to the Bernabeu, but Kenyon has now moved to quell talk that the former PSV Eindhoven star could be leaving London.

"Arjen is very happy, he's just got married and he wants to demonstrate and prove what a great player he is and still believes the Premier League is the best opportunity," Kenyon said.

"I'm confident he'll be there next season."

Rumours of Robben's impending exit have been partly fuelled by suggestions that Chelsea are closing in on a deal for Lyon winger Florent Malouda.

However, when questioned during a marketing drive in Hong Kong, Kenyon underlined that prudence was the prevailing philosophy at Stamford Bridge this summer, and that no big-money arrivals are anticipated.

"By Chelsea standards it's been very quiet. That's probably the headline...both in terms of names and in terms of big spending," Kenyon added.

"We've had three or four so-called free transfers."

Sky Sports
Locke Lamora
You probably know this, but Flamini is headed to Birmingham aswell.
Who knows what this club can achieve next season...
Portman
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jun 29 2007, 09:34 PM)
You probably know this, but Flamini is headed to Birmingham aswell.
Who knows what this club can achieve next season...
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The legend Flamini or as Wenger says Fla-mi-hi... Flameehee. laugh.gif

TBH I dunno how such a player has ever played in a club like Arsenal. He's not even Millwall class. rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
So let me get this straight, people think Birmingham are on the up?

Last time they were up: Walter Pandiani, Jermaine Pennant, Chris Sutton.
This time: Mattheiu Falmini, Olivier Kapo, Gary O'Connor.

I'm not genius, but doesn't making worse signings generally mean you're a worse team? rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
I found an interesting site on the net. It rates all of the Worlds derbies, to see which one is the most fierce. I just took out all the English ones.

The Birmingham derby is numero uno. cool.gif

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Aston Villa - Birmingham City  
West Ham United - Millwall FC   
Everton - Liverpool FC  
Arsenal - Tottenham Hotspur 
Manchester United - Manchester City  
Brentford FC - QPR   
Stoke City - Port Vale   
Nottingham Forest - Notts County   
Chelsea - Fulham 

City Derbies
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 09:39 PM)
I found an interesting site on the net. It rates all of the Worlds derbies, to see which one is the most fierce. I just took out all the English ones.

The Birmingham derby is numero uno.  cool.gif
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Don't think the Birmingham one personally, Merseyside and Manchester ones are bigger in my opinion, probably because of the stature of the teams.

And yeah West Ham - Millwall - well thats just dangerous.
Locke Lamora
Arsenal-Man U.
Nuff' said.
Portman
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jun 30 2007, 12:51 AM)
Arsenal-Man U.
Nuff' said.
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Think he meant... derby. Not "big game". But a match between clubs from the same city.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 30 2007, 12:21 AM)
Think he meant... derby. Not "big game". But a match between clubs from the same city.
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Yep.

The Birmingham derby is definetly bigger than the Manchester derby, though I thought we may be number two behind West Ham - Millwall.

I think it's to do with how much the teams resent each other, rather than what game is bigger. Which shows why West Ham - Millwall is up there. But if you've ever been to a Second City derby, you'd know how dangerous it is, a few of my friends refuse to go because of the trouble before/after the game, it's ridiculous. rolleyes.gif

I'd say the biggest game between English teams in United - Liverpool, by a long, long way.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 29 2007, 11:51 PM)
Yep.

The Birmingham derby is definetly bigger than the Manchester derby, though I thought we may be number two behind West Ham - Millwall.

I think it's to do with how much the teams resent each other, rather than what game is bigger. Which shows why West Ham - Millwall is up there. But if you've ever been to a Second City derby, you'd know how dangerous it is, a few of my friends refuse to go because of the trouble before/after the game, it's ridiculous.  rolleyes.gif

I'd say the biggest game between English teams in United - Liverpool, by a long, long way.
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thats one thing i love about hockey, it has the rep of being a violent sport but in reality it's just physical. and theres no crowd trouble or fighting between fans, even during the big rivalry games. i mean when i go watch toronto/montreal i talk a lot of trash to the opposiing fans before and after and of course theres fights here and there between fans but it's not seriously dangerous.
Locke Lamora
Oops, sorry about that.
Well the north London derby is pretty funny too...the scum hasn't beaten us since 1999...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jun 30 2007, 10:50 AM)
Oops, sorry about that.
Well the north London derby is pretty funny too...the scum hasn't beaten us since 1999...
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They scored 4 past you at The Lane in 2004.. And still lost! laugh.gif
misha
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Malouda: I Have Made Up My Mind To Join Chelsea

Florent Malouda has made up his mind to move to Chelsea, and revealed that he has already spoken with coach Jose Mourinho.

Liverpool were the first English club to be interested in him, but the Blues have since taken the lead in the race to land the Lyon midfielder.

He has now declared in no uncertain terms that he wants to move to Stamford Bridge, where he can join up with former teammates Michael Essien and Didier Drogba.

"Chelsea is where I want to be," Malouda told Progres. "I have made my choice."

"I have talked about it with the coach Jose Mourinho and I have had direct contact with the club, unlike Liverpool where too many intermediaries and sharks have entered the game."

"I want to leave, the directors know it and in these conditions I can't see carrying on with Lyon."

He wishes to play in a competitive league, and Lyon can also no longer match his wage demands. Attempts to hang on to him after losing Eric Abidal would prove futile, Malouda warned the club bosses.

"So much the better for Eric [that he moved to Barca], but it changes nothing for me."

The Blues are expected to make a £12m offer.

Probably he will replace Robben who's going to Madrid.
kurtsimonw
He's the most disrespectful player I've ever seen. I can't believe he said some of that about Lyon.

Ah well, one can only wish Robben stays and he becomes a bit part player.
Portman
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Lampard rejects new Chelsea deal

Lampard has been linked with a move from Stamford Bridge
Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard has turned down the offer of a new contract, BBC Sport understands.

It follows News of the World claims the Blues were willing to make him the top earner at Stamford Bridge.

The newspaper says the deal would have eclipsed the £121,000 a week given to Andriy Shevchenko and Michael Ballack.

England midfielder Lampard, 29, has two years left on his current contract and said last week he was content to see out that period of time at the club.

"They don't have to offer me anything so I'll just carry on," he stated.

However, Lampard added last month that he would have liked the club to have offered any such new deal in early June.

"In an ideal world, it would have happened three weeks ago but it is not an ideal world," said the Blues star.

"It feels strange. It is something I am trying to keep my mind off. You get on with it. I am not surprised by it because nothing surprises you in football."

Under Fifa rules, Lampard can buy out the remainder of his contract but it was reported in February that he was unlikely to take that course of action.

The £15m-rated player has been linked to Barcelona and Juventus, who are now managed by former Chelsea boss Claudio Ranieri.

Lampard enjoyed his most prolific season in front of goal for the Blues in the 2006-2007 campaign, scoring 21 times.


So... anybody thinks he'll quit Chelsea?

FC Barcelona, Juventus, ...?
misha
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 2 2007, 01:24 AM)
So... anybody thinks he'll quit Chelsea?

FC Barcelona, Juventus, ...?
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Catalunya waiting for him rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
I highly doubt he'll leave Chelsea.

BUT, if he was to leave, out of Juve and Barca, I'd say Juve, without a doubt.

Firrst reason being, he branded Barcelona 'cheats' after a few of their CL matches, he doesn't much like Rijkaard. Also, Claudio Ranieri was a manager he really liked in his time at Chelsea, linking up with him again wouldn't surprise me.

I just don't see him leaving in the first place, not while Terry's tehre anyway. tongue.gif
dst
Yeah but he knows that if he goes to Barcelona, winning the CL next season will be a walk in the park!

All Serie A is going to offer him is many goals and half-empty (half-full) stadia...
Portman
I think Lampard's wife is from Catalonia. rolleyes.gif

Anyway... I think it's a bad deal for Barcelona to sell Deco and get Lampard. Really bad.
Locke Lamora
Arsenal has signed Eduardo da Silva from Dinamo Zagreb.
Portman
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jul 2 2007, 12:53 PM)
Arsenal has signed Eduardo da Silva from Dinamo Zagreb.
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Hum. He's not bad from what I've seen but still... I don't think it's what Arsenal needs.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jul 2 2007, 11:53 AM)
Arsenal has signed Eduardo da Silva from Dinamo Zagreb.
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Hardly going to turn around your fortunes though
Locke Lamora
He's scored 7 goals in 12 national team matches.
he's also scored 73 goals in 100 matches for Zagreb.
Croatian league, but still...
kurtsimonw
Villa bought Bosko Balaban, a promising young striker from Croatia, he'd had some good seasons with NK Rejika and Dinamo Zagreb.

Let me just say, he scored less goals than Peter Schmeichel for us in 01/02. rolleyes.gif

Don't expect much, at all.
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 2 2007, 02:48 PM)
Villa bought Bosko Balaban, a promising young striker from Croatia, he'd had some good seasons with NK Rejika and Dinamo Zagreb.

Let me just say, he scored less goals than Peter Schmeichel for us in 01/02.  rolleyes.gif

Don't expect much, at all.
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And they spent more on him than they sold Henry for...

kurtsimonw
ohmy.gif

I just assumed they'd spent around £6m or so on him, but more than £15m!?

Arsene may be a good developer of players, but when it comes to transfers, he is awful.
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 10:47 AM)
Arsene may be a good developer of players, but when it comes to transfers, he is awful.
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It seems that your Aston Villa is going to have a quality kit this season. biggrin.gif

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CHELSEA ALVES SWOOP
EXCLUSIVE Roman desperate for Dan
By Alan Nixon 03/07/2007

CHELSEA are making a stunning £14million bid for Sevilla's brilliant Brazilian Daniel Alves - in their biggest move of the summer so far.

Blues owner Roman Abramovich has sanctioned a deal for the speedy South American right-back who can also play as a winger.

Alves could be sold by the Spanish Cup winners whose officials revealed the Londoners' interest last night - sparking anger among fans and possible a bidding war.

However, Chelsea hope to pull off the move and bring in Alves after clearing the way for a transfer by sending Geremi to Newcastle - and encouraging offers for Shaun Wright-Phillips.

Chelsea hoped to keep the deal secret but Sevilla intend to start an auction with Italians out his players to turn on the style. "The modern game has changed so dramatically that it can be very difficult to uphold standards," said the United boss, who welcomes back his players tomorrow for pre-season training.

"For example, the last two years have been difficult, yet we have still played the Manchester United way and worked our way to the top of the Premiership.

That reflects the principles of this club.

"Last se as on we scored 83 goals in the Premiership. To score that many in the modern game is phenomenal."

Nani and Anderson completed their moves to Old Traf ford yesterday, after signing five-year deals.

Keeper Tomasz Kuszczak also finalised his permanent move to United after a loan from West Brom.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...89520-19396156/


Is Chelsea finally going to have a world-class RB? rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 3 2007, 09:51 AM)
It seems that your Aston Villa is going to have a quality kit this season.  biggrin.gif

Is Chelsea finally going to have a world-class RB?  rolleyes.gif
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We most certainly are. cool.gif

Leave Ferreira alone, I like him. tongue.gif

Chelsea could have a great defense next year, with depth, too.
Left
Ashley Cole
Wayne Bridge

Right
Daniel Alvez
Paulo Ferreira

Centre
John Terry
Ricardo Carvalho
Alex

Tal Ben Haim being the utility man, playing accross the back 4. That's going to be brilliant.


P.S. Birmingham have signed their first player of the season, Daniel De Ridder of Celta Vigo. dry.gif
Portman
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 3 2007, 12:13 PM)
We most certainly are.  cool.gif

Leave Ferreira alone, I like him.  tongue.gif

Chelsea could have a great defense next year, with depth, too.
Left
Ashley Cole
Wayne Bridge

Right
Daniel Alvez
Paulo Ferreira

Centre
John Terry
Ricardo Carvalho
Alex

Tal Ben Haim being the utility man, playing accross the back 4. That's going to be brilliant.
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Impressive defense. Just think Alex will be pissed off in the bench, then we might sign him next year. wink.gif

A.Cole - J.Terry - Carvalho - Alves. <- Amazing

Barcelona's: Abidal - G.Milito - Puyol - Zambrotta <- Top too.

Madrid's: Chivu-Cannavaro-Metzelder-Ramos <- Prob the best defensive four. Chelsea's have best full-backs (helping the attack) but Alves and Cole are defensively inferior to Ramos or Chivu.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 3 2007, 11:21 AM)
Impressive defense. Just think Alex will be pissed off in the bench, then we might sign him next year.  wink.gif

A.Cole - J.Terry - Carvalho - Alves. <- Amazing

Barcelona's: Abidal - G.Milito - Puyol - Zambrotta <- Top too.

Madrid's: Chivu-Cannavaro-Metzelder-Ramos <- Prob the best defensive four. Chelsea's have best full-backs but Alves and Cole are defensively inferior to Ramos or Chivu.
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I pretty much agree with everything you've said there. wink.gif

How certain do you think the Milito/Chivu deals are?
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