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Nice dive from the 'greatest player in the world'
Another day, another Liverpool big game flop (outside of europe of course)
C.Ronaldo -> 2008 Ballon d'Or winner. 
Portugal will be frightening to watch with Ronaldo and Nani and others at Euro 2008.
Portugal will be frightening to watch with Ronaldo and Nani and others at Euro 2008.
FT 3-0. Not a surprise if we know it was 11 v 10 for 1 hour in Old Trafford.
MOTM: Steve Bennett
MOTM: Steve Bennett
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 23 2008, 03:19 PM)
Another day, another Liverpool big game flop (outside of europe of course)
Well, when they play against a team that isn't one of the big 4, they ALWAYS have the ref doing the best he can to win Liverpool the game. It's refreshing to see that not happen today/
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 23 2008, 03:19 PM)
C.Ronaldo -> 2008 Ballon d'Or winner.
Portugal will be frightening to watch with Ronaldo and Nani and others at Euro 2008.
Portugal will be frightening to watch with Ronaldo and Nani and others at Euro 2008.
Quaresma = 10 times what Nani is. The problem is that he's not in Man Utd so he's not as hyped.
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 23 2008, 03:23 PM)
MOTM: Steve Bennett
Nah, MotM: Reina (MU)
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 23 2008, 03:24 PM)
Quaresma = 10 times what Nani is. The problem is that he's not in Man Utd so he's not as hyped.
I'd disagree. Even living in England I hear way more about Quaresma than I do Nani. Last time I saw Quaresma play he has one huge flaw. He just won't pass.
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 23 2008, 06:54 PM)
Quaresma = 10 times what Nani is. The problem is that he's not in Man Utd so he's not as hyped.
Of course. I forgot him! overall Portugal have a very good chance of making at least the semis imo. mainly because there is Ronaldo. hope he doesn't under-perform in this big stage.
I think of Portugal as Europe's Brazil btw!
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 23 2008, 03:29 PM)
I'd disagree. Even living in England I hear way more about Quaresma than I do Nani. Last time I saw Quaresma play he has one huge flaw. He just won't pass.
He's tired of Porto. In the last few months he did feck all.
In Portugal everybody knows he's leaving FC Porto.
R.Madrid or Inter are the teams that he's being linked on the last few weeks.
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 23 2008, 03:33 PM)
Of course. I forgot him! overall Portugal have a very good chance of making at least the semis imo. mainly because there is Ronaldo. hope he doesn't under-perform in this big stage.
It depends of the form/shape of our central-midfielders.
Chelsea 0-1 Arsenal, Sagna. Kalou lost him on the corner.
DROGBA! 1-1!
2-1 i guess chelsea is the only team that has a chance of stopping manure.
Arsenal has gone from 1st to 3rd... still have to play @ Old Trafford too. If Chelsea can beat Man U @ home and Arsenal draws United, then they have a chance.
And United still have to go to the Bridge!
Great game and great win 
1 Manchester United 73
2 Chelsea 68
3 Arsenal 67
4 Liverpool 59
5 Everton 57
Next week: Liverpool vs Everton
2 Chelsea 68
3 Arsenal 67
4 Liverpool 59
5 Everton 57
Next week: Liverpool vs Everton
Priceless moment of the game:
Arsenal lead the game 0-1.
Avram Grant takes off Ballack and Makelele for Belletti and Anelka.
Chelsea fans at AG: "You dunno what you're doin'!"
10 minutes later, Chelsea lead 2-1.
Arsenal lead the game 0-1.
Avram Grant takes off Ballack and Makelele for Belletti and Anelka.
Chelsea fans at AG: "You dunno what you're doin'!"
10 minutes later, Chelsea lead 2-1.
Duh. Just watched the 30min. highlights of the United-Loserpool game. Reina is stupid! He is at fault for both Brown's and Ronaldo's goal... he is too short to come out like that, isn't it pretty obvious?
Also,
If CR is a winger then Kaladze is the best defender in the world.
Nani's celebration was class.
Oh and Skrtel is stupid too (first goal).
And... we should have bought Anderson.
Also,
If CR is a winger then Kaladze is the best defender in the world.
Nani's celebration was class.
Oh and Skrtel is stupid too (first goal).
And... we should have bought Anderson.
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 24 2008, 11:39 AM)
And... we should have bought Anderson.
Are you serious!?
It's almost the end of the season and he's yet to score, which is awful for an AM. Even Derby's backup AM has scored this season. It's pathetic. One of the worst value for money signing this season, in my opinion.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 24 2008, 04:20 PM)
Are you serious!?
It's almost the end of the season and he's yet to score, which is awful for an AM. Even Derby's backup AM has scored this season. It's pathetic. One of the worst value for money signing this season, in my opinion.
It's almost the end of the season and he's yet to score, which is awful for an AM. Even Derby's backup AM has scored this season. It's pathetic. One of the worst value for money signing this season, in my opinion.
Anderson played a lot of matches as CM in the pure 4-4-2 in this Man Utd. Only a few as AM in a typical 4-3-3 as he did in Porto.
And @dst... Milan would never pay 30M/euros for any player at the moment. Pato was half of that.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 24 2008, 06:20 PM)
Are you serious!?
It's almost the end of the season and he's yet to score, which is awful for an AM. Even Derby's backup AM has scored this season. It's pathetic. One of the worst value for money signing this season, in my opinion.
It's almost the end of the season and he's yet to score, which is awful for an AM. Even Derby's backup AM has scored this season. It's pathetic. One of the worst value for money signing this season, in my opinion.
I've never seen him play as an AM in United. I have not seen all their games but in those I've seen he was not in that position.
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 24 2008, 06:35 PM)
And @dst... Milan would never pay 30M/euros for any player at the moment. Pato was half of that.
30m is a lot of money. I would not have spent so much for Anderson either. But would we pay that fee for a proven player? I don't know.
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 24 2008, 10:59 AM)
I've never seen him play as an AM in United. I have not seen all their games but in those I've seen he was not in that position.
30m is a lot of money. I would not have spent so much for Anderson either. But would we pay that fee for a proven player? I don't know.
30m is a lot of money. I would not have spent so much for Anderson either. But would we pay that fee for a proven player? I don't know.
We paid 50 million euros for Inzaghi. But I guess he made it worthwhile with his epic goals when it mattered the most.
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DIC to seal £400m deal for Liverpool in 'three to four weeks'
By Jason Burt and Ian Herbert
Tuesday, 25 March 2008
The long pursuit of Liverpool by Dubai International Capital is set to end within the next "three to four weeks" with the investment group taking full control of the Premier League club, according to a source close to the proposed deal.
DIC is understood to be confident that it will finally buy the club for £400m – and is looking to involve a "third party" investor, who would take a minority stake, as part of its business plan. The company is believed to already have an agreement in place with the club's co-owner George Gillett Jnr to buy his share. It is also confident that Tom Hicks, who owns the other 50 per cent, is now close to agreeing to sell to them even though he cut off negotiations earlier this month insisting he would not sell even a minority stake. Hicks also said he would block any attempt by Gillett to sell.
Although DIC, which is the private equity investment arm of the Dubai government, realises it is paying a high price for Liverpool – Gillett and Hicks bought the club for £219m 13 months ago – such is its determination to succeed that it wants to push ahead. "It's not a cheap deal and Hicks is holding out but there is confidence that it will now finally happen," a source said. Matters have not been helped by the strained relationship between the two Americans.
DIC, whose chief executive Sameer Al-Ansari is a life-long fan of the club and who will join the board, has ambitious plans which could include involving some of its other investment vehicles in an attempt to raise its profile. The hotel group Jumeirah could be used as part of the development of a new stadium. A wide-ranging review of the club, and its revenue streams, will be conducted.
DIC came close to buying Liverpool before the Americans' acquisition and has tried to resume negotiations, on and off, ever since. The reason for the apparent confidence now could be that several of Hicks' loans are due for refinancing within two or three months. This may be the trigger for his main lender – believed to be JP Morgan – to force him back into talks with DIC and accept its offer for Liverpool.
The full level of the Texan's debt is unclear. But DIC sources believe he has been hit badly by the state of the financial markets in the United States, which has seen the value of assets which he has borrowed heavily against drop – in some cases by between 30 and 50 per cent. Were Hicks unable to refinance loans when, at a time of severe anxiety among financial institutions, they are due, JP Morgan could take over the assets Hicks has borrowed against or force a sale. Since bankers would tend to sell on such assets anyway the presence of a prospective buyer like DIC would be attractive to them.
Given how far apart DIC and Hicks seem to be, it would appear that any chance of the Arab consortium having a future role at Anfield would be through a complete takeover, with or without a junior partner.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...eks-800255.html
By Jason Burt and Ian Herbert
Tuesday, 25 March 2008
The long pursuit of Liverpool by Dubai International Capital is set to end within the next "three to four weeks" with the investment group taking full control of the Premier League club, according to a source close to the proposed deal.
DIC is understood to be confident that it will finally buy the club for £400m – and is looking to involve a "third party" investor, who would take a minority stake, as part of its business plan. The company is believed to already have an agreement in place with the club's co-owner George Gillett Jnr to buy his share. It is also confident that Tom Hicks, who owns the other 50 per cent, is now close to agreeing to sell to them even though he cut off negotiations earlier this month insisting he would not sell even a minority stake. Hicks also said he would block any attempt by Gillett to sell.
Although DIC, which is the private equity investment arm of the Dubai government, realises it is paying a high price for Liverpool – Gillett and Hicks bought the club for £219m 13 months ago – such is its determination to succeed that it wants to push ahead. "It's not a cheap deal and Hicks is holding out but there is confidence that it will now finally happen," a source said. Matters have not been helped by the strained relationship between the two Americans.
DIC, whose chief executive Sameer Al-Ansari is a life-long fan of the club and who will join the board, has ambitious plans which could include involving some of its other investment vehicles in an attempt to raise its profile. The hotel group Jumeirah could be used as part of the development of a new stadium. A wide-ranging review of the club, and its revenue streams, will be conducted.
DIC came close to buying Liverpool before the Americans' acquisition and has tried to resume negotiations, on and off, ever since. The reason for the apparent confidence now could be that several of Hicks' loans are due for refinancing within two or three months. This may be the trigger for his main lender – believed to be JP Morgan – to force him back into talks with DIC and accept its offer for Liverpool.
The full level of the Texan's debt is unclear. But DIC sources believe he has been hit badly by the state of the financial markets in the United States, which has seen the value of assets which he has borrowed heavily against drop – in some cases by between 30 and 50 per cent. Were Hicks unable to refinance loans when, at a time of severe anxiety among financial institutions, they are due, JP Morgan could take over the assets Hicks has borrowed against or force a sale. Since bankers would tend to sell on such assets anyway the presence of a prospective buyer like DIC would be attractive to them.
Given how far apart DIC and Hicks seem to be, it would appear that any chance of the Arab consortium having a future role at Anfield would be through a complete takeover, with or without a junior partner.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...eks-800255.html
So, things are over or not?
After the last result I can see Liverpool fans thinking:
"Feck that. We want the arabs. We want 342894392849499422903 zillions spent next Summer on Joaquin, Dani Alves, Rafinha, Quaresma, Huntelaar and M.Richards."
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 24 2008, 08:01 PM)
We paid 50 million euros for Inzaghi. But I guess he made it worthwhile with his epic goals when it mattered the most.
50 million dollars maybe, 25 mil pounds, I doubt it was 50 mil euros (39 mil pounds)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_transfer
QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 24 2008, 08:07 PM)
50 million dollars maybe, 25 mil pounds, I doubt it was 50 mil euros (39 mil pounds)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_transfer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_transfer
Yep, 50 million dollars. That was a lot of money back then.
This weekends games
Saturday, 29 March 2008
Birmingham v Man City, 15:00
-Blues have won only 3 of 17 games under new manager McLeish.
My prediction: 1-1
Bolton v Arsenal, 15:00
-Last 6 meetings: Bolon 3 wins, 2 draws, 1 Arsenal win.
My prediction: 1-2
Derby v Fulham, 15:00
-Bottom 2 in the league, only 5 combined wins between them this season.
My prediction: 1-0
Portsmouth v Wigan, 15:00
-In every game Portsmouth have taken the lead this season, they have won. (12 of 12).
My prediction: 2-0
Reading v Blackburn, 15:00
-Only Derby have lost more games than Reading. Blackburn have never lost to Reading in the Premier League:
My prediction: 2-1
Sunderland v West Ham, 15:00
Sunderland have only scored 1 goal in their last 5 games. West Ham have conceeded 14 goals in their last 5.
My prediction: 2-1
Man Utd v Aston Villa, 17:15
-Villa haven't won at Old Trafford since I've been born. Have not lost away to a team in the big 4 this season (Drew all 3).
My prediction: 3-1
Sunday, 30 March 2008
Chelsea v Middlesbrough, 13:30
-Chelsea unbeaten in the league since December 16th 2007.
My prediction: 3-0
Liverpool v Everton, 16:00
-Lierpool won last 5 league games at Anfield. Everton unbeaten in 2008.
My prediction: 1-1
Tottenham v Newcastle, 15:00
-Spurs undefeated at home in 8 games. Newcastle picked up only 7 of last 42 points possible.
My prediction: 3-0
BBC Sport
Liverpool co-owner reveals split
Fresh doubts have been raised over the future of Liverpool after co-owner George Gillett revealed relations with partner Tom Hicks are now "unworkable". (Use link for full story).
Saturday, 29 March 2008
Birmingham v Man City, 15:00
-Blues have won only 3 of 17 games under new manager McLeish.
My prediction: 1-1
Bolton v Arsenal, 15:00
-Last 6 meetings: Bolon 3 wins, 2 draws, 1 Arsenal win.
My prediction: 1-2
Derby v Fulham, 15:00
-Bottom 2 in the league, only 5 combined wins between them this season.
My prediction: 1-0
Portsmouth v Wigan, 15:00
-In every game Portsmouth have taken the lead this season, they have won. (12 of 12).
My prediction: 2-0
Reading v Blackburn, 15:00
-Only Derby have lost more games than Reading. Blackburn have never lost to Reading in the Premier League:
My prediction: 2-1
Sunderland v West Ham, 15:00
Sunderland have only scored 1 goal in their last 5 games. West Ham have conceeded 14 goals in their last 5.
My prediction: 2-1
Man Utd v Aston Villa, 17:15
-Villa haven't won at Old Trafford since I've been born. Have not lost away to a team in the big 4 this season (Drew all 3).
My prediction: 3-1
Sunday, 30 March 2008
Chelsea v Middlesbrough, 13:30
-Chelsea unbeaten in the league since December 16th 2007.
My prediction: 3-0
Liverpool v Everton, 16:00
-Lierpool won last 5 league games at Anfield. Everton unbeaten in 2008.
My prediction: 1-1
Tottenham v Newcastle, 15:00
-Spurs undefeated at home in 8 games. Newcastle picked up only 7 of last 42 points possible.
My prediction: 3-0
BBC Sport
Liverpool co-owner reveals split
Fresh doubts have been raised over the future of Liverpool after co-owner George Gillett revealed relations with partner Tom Hicks are now "unworkable". (Use link for full story).
a Derby win?! lol .. that is very rare even against Fulham.
Wow didn't know Arsenal had such a bad record against Bolton, but Bolton is just plain terrible this year.
even against Fulham.Wow didn't know Arsenal had such a bad record against Bolton, but Bolton is just plain terrible this year.
QUOTE
Q: Torres came in for a fair bit of rough treatment during the friendly for Spain in midweek against Italy. Not the best preparation for this fixture?
A: Clearly not the best preparation but he wasn't playing against Italy, he was playing against Materazzi. He is okay and he will be ready for this game.
A: Clearly not the best preparation but he wasn't playing against Italy, he was playing against Materazzi. He is okay and he will be ready for this game.
Rafa Benitez.
Classic.BTW. Chelsea's statement:
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DISAPPOINTMENT AT FIXTURE CHANGE
Chelsea Football Club is extremely disappointed with the announcement today regarding the Everton fixture.
We believe the decision to hold the match on Thursday April 17 undermines the sporting integrity of the competition by giving our rivals for the Premier League title an unnecessary competitive advantage at a critical time of the season, with more recovery time from their previous match and preparation time for their next fixture when we have to play two games during the same period.
Secondly there has been no consideration given to our fans who will be presented with serious travel, work and other issues.
And lastly, the decision sets a dangerous precedent in changing match days still further when fixture congestion does not exist and when a sensible solution regarding other television matches that weekend was suggested.
Football has benefited greatly from the backing of television and Chelsea as much as anyone else. However this decision is one step too far and we reserve all rights on our position.
Chelsea Football Club is extremely disappointed with the announcement today regarding the Everton fixture.
We believe the decision to hold the match on Thursday April 17 undermines the sporting integrity of the competition by giving our rivals for the Premier League title an unnecessary competitive advantage at a critical time of the season, with more recovery time from their previous match and preparation time for their next fixture when we have to play two games during the same period.
Secondly there has been no consideration given to our fans who will be presented with serious travel, work and other issues.
And lastly, the decision sets a dangerous precedent in changing match days still further when fixture congestion does not exist and when a sensible solution regarding other television matches that weekend was suggested.
Football has benefited greatly from the backing of television and Chelsea as much as anyone else. However this decision is one step too far and we reserve all rights on our position.
Completely unfair on Chelsea in my opinion. Looks like the EPL is still doing everything they can to win United the league.
Anyways, Derby 1-0 Fulham and Bolton 1-0 Arsenal.
EDIT:
Derby 1-1 Fulham.
Sunderland 1-1 West Ham.
Diaby red card for Arsenal, looks like 4 straight defeats away at Bolton for the Gunners.
Portsmouth 1-0 Wigan.
Anyways, Derby 1-0 Fulham and Bolton 1-0 Arsenal.
EDIT:
Derby 1-1 Fulham.
Sunderland 1-1 West Ham.
Diaby red card for Arsenal, looks like 4 straight defeats away at Bolton for the Gunners.
Portsmouth 1-0 Wigan.
And then there were two..
Arsenal are out of the title race. Bolton 2-0 Arsenal, Matty Taylor with both, and Arsenal down to 10 men.
EDIT: 2-1, Gallas.
EDIT 2: Maybe it's not all over, penalty Arsenal. van Persie.. goal. 2-2.
Arsenal are out of the title race. Bolton 2-0 Arsenal, Matty Taylor with both, and Arsenal down to 10 men.
EDIT: 2-1, Gallas.
EDIT 2: Maybe it's not all over, penalty Arsenal. van Persie.. goal. 2-2.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 29 2008, 08:46 PM)
And then there were two..
Arsenal are out of the title race. Bolton 2-0 Arsenal, Matty Taylor with both, and Arsenal down to 10 men.
Arsenal are out of the title race. Bolton 2-0 Arsenal, Matty Taylor with both, and Arsenal down to 10 men.
2-1 and now penelty to arsenal
2-2 at reebok
I really am a curse, I said it was all over.. Cesc, 2-3 Arsenal.
Derby 2-2 Fulham: Derby are officially relegated.
Derby 2-2 Fulham: Derby are officially relegated.
arsenal 3-2 wow
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 29 2008, 09:53 PM)
I really am a curse, I said it was all over.. Cesc, 2-3 Arsenal.
Derby 2-2 Fulham: Derby are officially relegated.
Derby 2-2 Fulham: Derby are officially relegated.
I am sad abt derby man i study there
QUOTE (fahad @ Mar 29 2008, 04:54 PM)
I am sad abt derby man i study there
I'm in split minds about them. It's always nice to see local rivals get relegated, but it's always fun to watch local derbies.
Portsmouth lead 2-0, Defoe again. That's 6 goals in 7 games so far in his Pompey career.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 29 2008, 09:55 PM)
I'm in split minds about them. It's always nice to see local rivals get relegated, but it's always fun to watch local derbies.
Portsmouth lead 2-0, Defoe again. That's 6 goals in 7 games so far in his Pompey career.
Portsmouth lead 2-0, Defoe again. That's 6 goals in 7 games so far in his Pompey career.
defoe got the rite team he was being wasted at spurs............
**** does not belong here but roma 1-0 down in 2 mins own goal ferreri
What a goal by Cristiano Ronaldo against A.Villa.
His 26th in the EPL. 35 overall.
27' 1-0
His 26th in the EPL. 35 overall.
27' 1-0
2-0 Tevez!
who scored the third??
Rooney, I think. With an assist from Ronaldo.
Just saw the Diaby redcard, terrible tackle.. could've broken his leg there.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 29 2008, 11:36 PM)
Rooney, I think. With an assist from Ronaldo.
what abt 4th now
Rooney again.
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 29 2008, 05:45 PM)
What a goal by Cristiano Ronaldo against A.Villa.
His 26th in the EPL. 35 overall.
27' 1-0
His 26th in the EPL. 35 overall.
27' 1-0
Oh please, that was lucky and nothing more. If anybody else scored that goal nobody would care
Can't believe we lost 4-0 really, United played well but we created plenty of chances. A defeat by 1/2 goals would have been a fair result, but 4 doesn't have a fair showing on how well we played.
The refereeing was, as usual, terrible. No big decisions went against us, but it's all the little things. Every 50/50 goes Uniteds way, corners not given to us when they clearly should have, free-kicks not going our way. It's always the same, Old Trafford is an unfair advantage.
I can't wait to see Wengers interview later on. I'm sick of hearing him talk about how his team are kicked all over the place, the Diaby tackle today was much, much worse than the Martin Taylor one on Eduardo, let's see how he reacts to it.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 29 2008, 07:19 PM)
Oh please, that was lucky and nothing more. If anybody else scored that goal nobody would care
If he scored that goal against Liverpool you wouldn't say that.
Anyway, with that goal + 3 assists must be a lucky soab.
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 29 2008, 09:50 PM)
Anyway, with that goal + 3 assists must be a lucky soab.
Can't see the goal as my connection is crawling at the moment.
1 goals + 3 assists! Come on, what are they "feeding" him!??
Seriously, if a player from the Euro winners does brilliant and wins the Ballon d'Or instead of him, he should kill himself!
Even his assist with Rooney was lucky, that was meant to go to Evra.
But R+R were the difference today, just class. Teves really is a bad player, he missed 2 or 3 very easy chances. They need to replace him with a real player to partner Rooney. And if they play like they did today for the rest of the season, nobody can catch them.
But R+R were the difference today, just class. Teves really is a bad player, he missed 2 or 3 very easy chances. They need to replace him with a real player to partner Rooney. And if they play like they did today for the rest of the season, nobody can catch them.
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