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Italians: 'Brit clubs steal players'

Sunday 6 September, 2009

Italian clubs claim the ban on Chelsea for poaching a teenager is just the tip of the iceberg and urge UEFA to stop the “robbery” of players from academies.

The Stamford Bridge side has been barred from making any purchases until January 2011 after they were found guilty of pushing Gael Kakuta to break his Lens contract.

This is a familiar issue for many Serie A sides, as Roma, Lazio and Parma were famously furious that homegrown talents like Davide Petrucci, Federico Macheda, Arturo Lupoli and Giuseppe Rossi were tempted to England before they could sign a professional contract.

“Luciano Spalletti rang up Sir Alex Ferguson and asked him to halt Petrucci’s transfer,” insisted Giallorossi director Bruno Conti (pictured).

“Ferguson replied he would do something, but we never heard from him again. United are still behaving this way, it’s not sport and Ferguson is not acting in a sportsmanlike manner.

“The law still allows clubs to do what they want, but Michel Platini is talking to our Federation to resolve the problem.”

Empoli were the most recent ‘victims’ of allegedly underhand tactics when they saw 16-year-old Alberto Massacci and 18-year-old Manuel Pucciarelli picked up by Manchester last month.

“We are not happy. Manchester United do this kind of thing a lot because they know our regulations in Italy, whereby we cannot put our youth players on lucrative contracts,” moaned Empoli director Giuseppe Vitale in the Mail on Sunday.

“They didn't speak to us about our players. It is not right and they know it is not right. Platini must change the law so that when a big club come in and try to rob - and that is the right word, rob - us of our players, they must pay us a decent amount of money.”

Reggina have not forgotten the loss of 15-year-old defender Vincenzo Camilleri to Chelsea, reportedly picked up from the training ground in a helicopter.

"I think FIFA and UEFA should always punish clubs like Chelsea who steal players from smaller clubs,” President Pasquale ‘Lillo’ Foti told the News of the World.

"In Chelsea's case, their arrogance is quite obvious. And with the Kakuta case I can easily see the same procedure which they used with us. Someone should stop Chelsea and all the clubs which follow the same strategy.

"Chelsea took away one of our best players, who had been at Reggina three seasons. They didn't care that Reggina spent money and time on Camilleri.

"They didn't give us anything back. It was a shame, a serious scandal when you think neither UEFA nor FIFA sanctioned Chelsea.

"I have to say in my experience in football most of these cases come from England. And the reason is pretty simple, a Premier League club can offer a professional contract to a young players one year before Italy can.

"It means that if the family agree to move abroad - in this case, to London - there is no chance for us to keep the players. But this is something which should be changed."

Football Italia

As I understand, we could not buy the San Siro coz of municipal regulations. Nothing to do with Inter.

Yes I believe there is. Since it belongs to the Milan Municipality as opposed to the Turin Municipality. But I'm sure now that there's only negotiating interest from the club's side, this deal can go through.

2 problems:

1) We have to be sure that Inter are indeed moving on.
2) If we do intend to redo the stadium where shall we play in the meantime. And btw..will it be renamed to San Siro finally? Even though he played a bit for Milan, I see no real reason why we should stick to such niceties.

Let Inter have their Pirelli Meazza stadium for all I care. I'd rather have a Gianni Rivera stadium. What's the consensus on the Berlusconi Arena?

Stadio Paolo Maldini. That's it.

Don't like the idea of calling it after somebody who's still alive. I'm sure Paolo would feel weird coming to matches.

Italians: 'Brit clubs steal players'

Just because it isn't illegal doesn't mean it isn't unethical.

True but exactly because it's not illegal it cannot be called stealing.

Pato 1 m/y... I swear this is not a fair world.

Pato 1 m/y... I swear this is not a fair world.

I understand what you're saying, Pato is a great player. But be realistic, he's acheived nothing in his career, he's barely played 2 years of top level football.

I understand what you're saying, Pato is a great player. But be realistic, he's acheived nothing in his career, he's barely played 2 years of top level football.

A plan of Roma's new stadium will be released next week according to a statement released on the club's website.

http://www.football-italia.net/sep10m.html


I didn't expect you to say something like that to be honest...!

I think players must get paid based on what they do on the pitch not what they have archived in their careers. does that mean you think Dinho deserves that wage because he "was" an amazing player some years ago? or Dida? or even Kaladze? on the other hand should Pato get paid so little because he's a kid, disregarding of how good he performs for us??... I don't get it!

I don't say he should get 5m a year but 1 million for someone who's without a doubt been one of our best players over the past two seasons seems just unfair. especially when you think of the money we're wasting on some benchwarmers who never play.

It bugs me royally to hear people kvetch about how Pato is underpaid at 1 mil a year. It's his first top-level contract and, as Kurt said, he's barely been with us for two years. He has to earn the big paydays.

Exactly. It annoys me when young players are earning a tonne of money, because surely when they get even better they'll want even more? Then it gets out of hand! Pato doesn't seem to be making a fuss of wanting more money though, which is good to see.

Tons of money? are you talking about Messi or C.Ronaldo or maybe some EPL youngsters? because last time I checked Pato earns 1 m/y which is a joke, even you take everything into consideration, it's still a joke.

We've been agreeing on an awful lot lately han, what's wrong with us!?

But seriously you always disagree with dst, we usually only disagree when it comes to Rino/Ambro

Well it annoys me more to see Dida/Oddo/Kaladze getting the money they do when they're useless to us, and we're only keeping them because we're literally stuck with them. I'm not saying give Pato 7m a season, because I agree that he's too young for those sorts of numbers, but taking into consideration that he is one of our star players along with Pirlo and Nesta he should be earning more. Atleast 3m a season would be fair not this cr@p wehn you have bench warmers like Dida and Oddo leeching money off the club, no wonder they don't want to leave, their road is set, they do nothing while collecting their massive paychecks at the end of the month.

At Jack, I don't really care what Dida for example has done in the past, its what he's doing now that matters, and that is absolutely nothing. So its fair that Dinho is our best paid player when he's not even half the player he was 2 seasons ago, but the money is justified because he was great then. I really don't get this logic. The fact is that Dida/Dinho/Oddo/Kaladze do not deserve what they're getting.

And really I wouldn't care about this, because its not our money, but when you hear Galliani and co complain about Kaka and Pirlo's wages while we have these useless players taking in the ammounts they are it really p!sses me off to no end.

ouch, you are like stalin no sympathy, no soul for a poor man who has been plagued by injury and misfortune through the later stages of his career. He deserves a home, a chance to retire in the club he's given so much to. Is it really that big a deal giving him a few extra million to make sure his retirement is set for life? I mean after all that he's given us for so many years. Poor Dida, no wonder he's lost his confidence after comments like these, anyone would.

And really I wouldn't care about this, because its not our money, but when you hear Galliani and co complain about Kaka and Pirlo's wages while we have these useless players taking in the ammounts they are it really p!sses me off to no end.

We've been agreeing on an awful lot lately han, what's wrong with us!?

How come you agree with what han says when it's basically what I said?