Getting Torres wouldn't make sense on SO many levels!

How many times have our management done this? Getting a "name" so they can brag about said players glorious past no matter how bad they are at the moment...

Torres isn't good enough for a top half team.

Then he is good enough for us.

Galliani is nuts. Saying Torres is a great striker is fucking with the fans. Clown!

Wait....we can say "fucking"??
What about ****?

*edit* gosh darnit

You know what word should be banned here??
Torres

Woke up again. Nope,Cerci didn't come up

Wasn't expecting much tbh, just excited for Inzaghi's first professional debut as coach. Otherwise the only players I can relate to r bonera and abbs. The rest are just random.

I just don't see where goals are coming from in this team.

I think SES will do much better this season without Balo, they never seemed to be on the same page when on the field together

Milan and Chelsea have found an agreement for the loan (with no option to buy) of Marco Van Ginkel, now it will be up to the player to decide. Between Milan and Benfica, the midfielder Has Already chosen the Italian club, now He Has two options: staying or moving to Milan at Stamford Bridge, where Mourinho Often fielded him When he was fit. Van Ginkel ponders His future, AC Milan and Chelsea Reached an agreement, now the player Has to make a decision.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomerca...ayer-to-decide/

Feeder club is our future it seems.

Feeder or not, van Ginkel isn't half bad from what I've heard. And the option to buy clause is a good thing as well.

We did not include an option to buy, that's the main problem...

Anyway, it's not like we'd exercise that option to buy anyway if it's anything above 5m we're not going to go for it, we'll end up making @sses of ourselves like we did in the Rami situation

Dam it, I misread.

According to Mediaset, we've offered Rami to Monaco, in order to get the money to pay Torres' salary.

WTF?! Like seriously, what the flying f*ck?!

Maybe Falcao, but Torres? Seriously???

So Torres earns about 9 million. And we've told Chelsea we're willing to pay 3 million and not more. Chelsea in fact are okay with paying the remaining half of his salary. Now Torres is the one dragging his feet. He wants a 3 year deal, else he says Chelsea pays out his contract (this is pure rumour/speculation).

I think I'm sort of okay with that. I actually do not think like the majority that Torres is a horrible striker who's lost everything. I believe at 3 million wages, he presents an excellent value add for a team whose only goal this season is to finish in Europe. And I like him better than the other options presented - Borini, Negredo. I also have my own pet theory as to why he sucks so bad in Chelsea. It's not an educated pundit's view, but I just went through a lot of videos comparing Torres at Chelsea v Torres at Liverpool.

EDIT: We've agreed to pay 3.5 million euros in wages, the rest will be on Chelsea. (At 175,000 GBP a week, his salary comes to 9 million GBP a year). No decision yet.

I think it's a great bit of business.

So just for this year, when we have no money coz of no CL and horrible season tickets - we get to strengthen using van Ginkel and Torres, leaving transfer funds intact to buy a winger and proper forward either in January or the next summer without any obligations.

In a way it's what han said. We are choosing to get no one rather than getting a substandard player, but you know that would leave us in shite for the season. So instead we loan them. R7 would call it Operating Expense vs. Capital Expense.
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I don't get the Rami link. Unless it's a makeweight for Falaco to come on loan. So instead of paying a loan fee, you send out Rami.

On a related note, Ogbonna availble for 15 MM from Juventus. Yes or no?

No. I think he's overrated. He's got potential, but I'd rather pay 15 MM to Torino and bring our own little kid back.

Darmian?

Yes!

Ok. But I was thinking of Ogbonna as a CB actually more than a LB. I'd like to have a solid CB who we can trust for the next 5-6 years.

Is he trustworthy though?

We seem to be downgrading every year. It won't be long until it gets to a point where we don't have anyone worth selling, what will the management do then?

We're not there yet. Hopefully, up until then we'll have a new board and a new president.

I'm actually glad we have no one left to sell. We'll be forced to be innovative then and smarter. I think we can do it. We have a very stable backbone, only the operating procedures needs to be worked on.

Coming back to topic...

It's clear now that Chelsea and Milan are in agreement on the loan. Milan seem to stand strong on the wages. Torres now has to take a wage cut and football italia are running a story putting the difference at 2.5 million euros. So Torres needs to take a paycut of 2.5 million euros for the deal to go through.

Last week of the window. #GallianiZone

Van ginnkel has rejected milan as per football italia

Torres wants a 3 year deal last I heard. End of the day if we end up with him at least he'll give us the effort Balo wouldn't.

I'd rather have Torres in my team than Balo, because while Torres is a shadow of his old self, at least he tries and doesn't disrupt the rest of the Club.

If one's family is a bunch of jerks/idiots then it's best to leave them. It happens all the time. Nobody is asking that win the league or CL every year. Just an effort to show that we have some ambition.

Disagree. Balo with all of his problems adds so much to our team. The ONLY advantage that Torres adds is that he works harder off the ball. But without our midfield being functional or cohesive unit I see him cutting an isolated and frustrated figure up front. He has less ability to create his own chances (especially with his decreased pace) and isn't nearly the deadball specialist that Balo is. Massive downgrade.

AFAIAC, there is only down-side with someone like Torres. His last few years have been a disaster, why do we think he will do any better with Milan? Most likely, we will end up with yet another over-paid player we do not want, and we will struggle getting rid of him. (Think Matri or Robinho, except worse.)

Look at other teams. For example, Juve bought Vidal for 10M (which is probably less than what Torres will cost us), they had three great years with him, and it now looks like they are selling him for 50M. Roma has done similar deals. Udinese. Fiorentina. Difference is, other teams look to invest in the future, we just seem to go for the "quick fix".

Frankly, I would rather we sit on the money we got from Balo until we find someone really worth getting.

lol so Van Ginkel rejected us and now we are betraying Rami... f@ck this team sideways...

Balo was a destructive force who added f*ck all to our team last season. Torres is a team player, Balo isn't.

In the club's defence we've only received an offer. It hasn't been accepted.

From FI: "he took a pay cut and gave up on bonuses to help his transfer go through from Valencia last month."

That's why it's f@cked up!



Rami via Twitter just now: “Thanks to everyone for your messages, really, BUT I am a Rossonero and I’m not leaving Milan. #ForzaMilan with all due respect for Monaco.”

I don't think Silvio will leave Milan before he's drained every last ounce of it, so anyone worth selling will be sold, the only reason we haven't sold SES and DS yet is because we can afford to sit on them for a bit longer while their value rises because they have comparatively low wages.

This transfer window has been an utter and complete disaster, probably even eclipses the Ibra + Silva debacle. We've spent absolutely no money aside from 4.7m on Rami who might be on his way out anyway for a little bit of profit. We've sold our only star player (whether you think it was a correct decision or not is neither here nor there), we still have not found the winger Pippo wants although sky are saying that we're close to Biabiany (FFS ), we still have not signed the much needed midfielder that we absolutely and crucially need and got rejected by a Chelsea bench warmer in the process, and even worse, we seem to have no plan to replace Mario aside from Torres or Borini. Just utterly unbelievable, and even worse, they knew they would be selling Mario for months now and instead of securing a replacement before selling him, they did jack sh!t for 3 months straight while sitting on the knowledge that they would definitely be selling him. Just unbelievable the level of mismanagement and utter lack of ambition Galliani and his cohorts have shown this summer

Our transfer season has been the typical downward spiral of promising rumours about great players to being close to signing the likes of Biabiany and Borini/Torres.

Our winger persuit has gone; Iturbe > Douglas Costa > Cerci > Lestienne > Biabiany!!

How f@cking depressing is that?

I would consider Poli a new signing!

If this is how the transfer window will turn out to be, he claims he was played out of position last season, lets see what he's got this time around. Since the club can not afford certain players for him Andrea to play second fiddle with, he has the luxury of that. And at an important club, he should be motivated to do his best.

*off with the rose-tinted glasses*

What a breathtakingly intelligent individual you are!! 30 goals in 53 games? Bah! Present day Emile Heskey could do that with Milan's ultra high quality squad

Torres plays with a team that just keeps stacking on World Class talent and scored 20 goals in 110 games
Balotelli has scored 30 goals in 53 games.... a rate that's almost what Fernando scored in his prime at Liverpool

You were probably one of the geniuses that blames him for Italy's disastrous campaign. I have nothing but the deepest respect and admiration for people like this

Not really sure why you have to behave like a w*nker in order to express your view.

It's NOT f*cked up. It would only be f*cked up if we accepted the offer. There is NOTHING wrong with Milan receiving an offer from another club. How can you possibly blame Milan for Monaco bidding for Rami?



If we accept the offer then it's a different story, and that would be a poor show to say the least. But he's shown great commitment to our club and I'd like us to repay that commitment by rejecting any offer, unless it really is BIG.

Whatever. You're still my hero. Balo has done f**k all is a statement that I will always treasure. Not only because it is so correct, accurate and apt....but because it came from you

When I grow up I will see the genius behind you thinking that Torres is better for our team. ATM I'm too stupid to see it (forgive me. you are so right to call me a wanker ). But I'm (stupidly) holding on to the idea that if a guy struggles to score in a team overflowing with creative players....how is he going to score with our midfield? silly, I know but the thing is....when all else failed, Balo could have made a goal out of nothing such as a trick/shot from distance/free-kick....what is Torres going to do?

Pazzo is a hard worker, team player, runs all match long, is professional etc etc but he simply isn't very talented so his output is always going to be lower than Balo's. The problem with Balo is that he could have been so much MORE. I'm not sure how that translates into being nothing though.

Without his fearsome pace what is Torres going to do? He isn't much of a dribbler these days...Anyway that's me being an illogical wanker again. I have utmost faith in your statements.

I would rather you played for Milan than Balo, Dru. As awful as your posts are, you clearly care. That's the difference.

The rumor was that they offered him to Monaco. Also Milan channel confirmed they were considering an offer from Monaco. That's enough for me for it to be a bad thing.

If big enough I'd consider it myself. He's not exactly Silva. I do admire his commitment and the fact he dipped into his own pocket. That gets my respect. But if someone offered 10M you'd have to consider. If less then obviously no way.

PS he'd get his £500k back via the sign on fee anyway.

As for the offer to Monaco, I don't buy it. We've been linked with Falcao, they've been linked with Mexes, this Monaco stuff is starting to get silly.

You lecture everyone about what a loyal fan you are but are celebrating the departure of a 24 year old striker who could make his own goals. Not only that but you are celebrating the arrival of a washed up player low on goals and confidence! Torres has scored less than Balo with 50 games more.

In summary it's ok for Milan to have less chance of being successful as long as you get to brag about what a great fan you are and lecture us about the virtues of teamwork and proper work ethic. And this is why I'm head over heels in love with you

Let's make it sillier. Torres smokescreen, Falcao in. Yeah, crazy silly, I know.

Its showtime

*off with the rose-tinted glasses*

Your hero regrets moving to us. He's glad to have left.

I'll celebrate his departure longer than you'll annoy people for.



Far from celebrating it, making the most of a dire situation - he's a terrible player but I support everyone in red and black. Including Balo, while he was here, as much as I disliked him.



In summary it's ok for you to troll and make up lies as long as you get a reaction.

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Come on now acid, you know Galliani better than that hehehe

Arsenal interested in Cerci. Funny that, players "not good enough for us" being wanted by some of the best teams in football. Meanwhile, we can't qualify for the Europa League.

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OMG. Half the people here want to believe the world is burning so badly, even a beautiful sunset is just evidence of a wildfire somewhere.

Guys for the last frickin time - Torres is a motherF-ing LOAN!!!! van Ginkel was a motherF-ing loan!!! For a club that needs to reach Europe but cannot gamble on spending money on unproven talents who will then not leave at all.

van Ginkel rejected us because he is second in line for a club in every prestigious competition with a chance to win it. Starters for Chelsea are Matic and Fabregas, and he is in with a fair shot to play because he only needs to compete with Ramires and Mikel and he offers something different. With Milan he has nothing to win. That's why. Torres wants more money. Another thing.

Biabiany is a purchase offer, because like everyone wants, we would rather not buy anyone than buy someone bad. So in that case if no striker, then Menez has to pay false 9 and then what's your cover on the wing??

Do people even realise we're down 40 million in revenue from CL rewards? Or that we're down in TV revenue and stadium revenue additionally (twice the number of CL tickets than league tickets were sold last season). And what is your solution? INVEST?? Invest how??! When it comes down to it, other than Milan being acquired by some sheikh who will be Berlusca part II , there really isn't any investment that will make a difference. Instead we have to take loans.


Right now, only Kuwait and Saudi sheiks are the moneyed parties left to acquire a club, so I suggest you be nice to R7 and maybe he'll talk to a few of his boys and figure something out.

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