Sorry, but he was absolutely rubbish last season. All the promise was gone and he was dire. My tolerance for giving players 'a chance' is next to nothing now, because 12 months for me is a 'chance'.

I'd be quite happy if we sell him for a good price and get in Cole, Marcello or Santon.

DS was injured for a large part of the season, and played on the wrong side. Not surprising he has under-performed. If played correctly, he has the potential of being a great player for us for a long time (which is why Carletto is after him).

If we get enough money and a suitable replacement, maybe. But it feels wrong ...

Hey, wait a minute. DS is still young, this was his first true full season, yet it ended up being plagued by injuries. Also, he got played - for the most part of his season - on the right, which everyone agrees isn't his preferable side.

And now you mention Marcelo and Santon? Both of them played horrible for more then just 12 months in the past, so why ain't they crossed off for you?

OK, maybe he's thrown a couple of punches due to the heat of the moment, but does that really make him a dirty player? For me a dirty player is someone like Materazzi or Chiellini, who incorporate shenanigans and dirty tackles in their way of playing. I don't think De Rossi makes it into that category, at least not for me.

Because they proved themselves already. DS hasn't. Overall he's given us 6 bright (ish) months since he broke through, and my patience has worn thin.

Not just with him, but the whole team. De Jong is the only player we have who walks away from last season with any credibility at all.

If we hold onto him we've done astoundingly well.

I think we should hold onto DS and SES for another season.

kaka is gone

Kaká: "I'm not leaving Milan"

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This is the problem these days.

There was a time when players were actually given time. Now at 21, you have a bad few months and everyone suddenly starts thinking you're rubbish and can't cut it (and I'm not talking about you here Danny, it's just that what you said has given me the opportunity to say this).

SES has a bad few months and an injury plagued season and suddenly he's not good enough anymore, despite the fact that he literally kept us afloat on his own the season before this one. DS has a bad few months playing on his weaker side and we want him out, despite being the most talented player our youth system has produced in a good long while and being wanted by the likes of Real, no we want to just get rid of him, because the options for us are SO amazing if we did sell him

Same thing with Balo, yes he can be a pain in the @ss at times, but people are completely unfair towards him. He can never win, no matter what he does, if he stays and managed to have a 30+ goal season, I'm sure someone will still find reasons to shred this guy to pieces at any given opportunity.

Honda comes in for a few months, which were admittedly average, plus the injuries and people are fed up with him as well. It's just getting to the point of ridiculous.

Back in the day we actually gave players time before jumping on their backs, Sheva had a terrible season with us at one point and we were close to selling him and people were "fed up" with him as well, yet imagine all that we'd have missed had that really happened.

would this be a loan?

@xoff
Tuesday he'll get get presented in orlando. (kaka)

Then will go on loan to santos till pre season.

8m saved from his wages are directly to our transfer budget, at least thats what the media says. Not sure how much of that i believe.

News:
Mandorlini (verona coach): iturbe will leave, we dont know where tho.


Milan and Juve are leading the race.

Juve offerd 21 million plus quaqliarela. Milan offered 20m and saponara. Verona want 30 m cash.

If we fail to get iturbe, well try for lavezzi. same agent.


Napoli are preparing a 8m bid for tarrabt. We have decided not to sign him.

We are waiting on valencia for Rami. THey are having take over issues. Bronzetti is sent to finish the deal, as galliani is negotiationg for itrube.

Good post, agree with everything (especially about DS. To sell him now will be just stupid) except the Balo part. With Balo it's mainly a mental thing, and unless he finds a way to overcome his demons (and I'm not sure he can anytime soon) he'll continue mostly to frustrate us. I'd sale him given a good offer.

Yeah, it's really simple. Santon, Marcelo and whoever got their chances because they're considerably older then DS. But their career had big ups and big downs. We've gotta be patient with Mattia.

News:

Kaka only missing details to be announced as player of São Paulo for the Brazilian Championship of 2014. He will join Orlando FC in March. Kaka will sign for Orlando Fc on a permanent deal and then be loaned to São Paulo.


espn (they never make up stuff, excellent track record) Bye bye ricky :'(



-Empoli have enquired about Birsa

-Monday (30th of June) will be the last day for Urby Emanuelson, Marco Amelia and Ferdinando Coppola. Milan have not renewed their contracts.


-Inter have joined the race for Shkodran Mustafi. Milan, Juventus, Borussia Dortmund, Leverkusen and Schalke are all interested.


-Napoli willing to offer €8m for Taarabt & a 4 year €1.5m a year contract for the player.They want to close the deal quickly.


-Juve have pulled out of the Itrube race after their offer declined. Verona only want cash. THey have set their sights on Ibarbo for 15m

-Galliani recently spoke with Braida (who works for Sampdoria now) about Obiang. Sampdoria are also interested in Zapata.


-Lazio and Palermo are interested in signing Michael Agazzi.


-Milan have tabled an offer of 25m euros for Iturbe. Verona are looking for 30m but could meet halfway. Verona have declined Juve's bid of 21m plus quaqlierella. Galliani will have a meeting with Berlusconi soon regarding this transfer. If berlu gives the green light, we'll finalize terms with his agent. Wage will be around 2m/year.



(who the f**K is this guy, it just seems nuts that were offering this obscene amount of money for someone virtually unknown. We could've signed Fabregas for 35 lol. And wheres this money coming from, we arent even in champions league! wtf!)


gazzeta,milannews,calciomercato, twitter

Blue, we need sources as well.

But if Lazio is interested in Agazzi, maybe we could go for Marchetti.

SES has had a 'bad few months'? In 4 odd years he's had a few GOOD months. That's the problem

We won't have a proper conversation if we're throwing around terms such "absolutely rubbish". He was nowhere near that especially considering the factors everybody else mentions above.


I don't follow ESPN's soccer pages but in every other sport they almost exclusively make up stuff.

Yes he was. When he was fit he sucked. That's fact.

I don't understand how you could be so quick to throw out players like El Sha and DS. These guys are both extremely young and if we did get rid of them this summer we would be selling when their value is lowest. Aside from that, both of these guys are young and extremely promising. If you expect players who are this age to play amazing every single game and not have a dip in form, especially given the fact that the coaching position has been less than secure, is ridiculous. When C. Ronaldo was 21 I don't think he was the player that he is today. The key with young guys is to be patient, and considering our current situation what better time is there than now? The consistency and production will come over time.

This also applies to Balotelli, sure the guy has had his ups and downs and he is one of the most frustrating players to watch sometimes, but I would much rather have him than a player like Mandzukic. Balotelli can take over the game in a way that few attackers can, he has the potential to be World Class, he just needs the time and the support. I understand that its inconvenient to wait around for him to mature but I don't want to see him turn in to a world class star for another team. At this point he is our guy, might as well try and get behind him. Young players give me as a fan hope, especially considering the fact that we don't have the financial strength to buy established stars. Young guys who have a few kinks to work out are much better than players who are past their prime. I think blaming him for Italy's performance is extremely unfair considering that the established players for the most part played like garbage,especially the Juventini. Players like Pirlo, Buffon, and De Rossi should have come out and distributed the blame to the whole team rather than one player who was IMO starved for service through most of the matches. The way that they came out and blamed him shows that their time is done, especially when the national team has a large group of promising goalkeepers and Pirlo's replacement in Verratti (who I thought was the only player who was playing against Uruguay). The future of the national team is youth and that is our future as well.

As far as the Iturbe rumors go, I think 25 mil for him is way too much considering that Fabregas is valued around 35. I think that money would be better spent on both a winger and a cm, although I do want to see Cristante and Poli get some serious time this year. I would have loved to snap up Berardi but Juventus would never sell him to us considering
the year he just had.

How do you guys feel about Ogbonna? I know he had a down year at Juve but I think that a consistent first team shot could do wonders for him here. I think that Rami and Alex are too similar and I would much rather pair one of them with Astori or Ogbonna.

Love the blind faith so many have in SES.

I'm really not a fan of SES, after a bright first 3 months or so, he's done absolutely nothing but play poorly and be injured.

Very good post. I agree with all your points. As for the Italian NT it would be good to see us use this opportunity to start a new cycle and focus on the younger players. unfortunately, that is probably not what is going to happen.

shame about Paloschi i thought inzaghi wouild have him in his plans , great talent!

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Juan Iturbe VeronaHellas Verona star Juan Manuel Iturbe is said to prefer a switch to AC Milan over Juventus.

The 21 year-old enjoyed an excellent season with the newly-promoted Serie A side and has attracted a host of potential suitors.

According to this morning’s addition of Tuttosport the Rossoneri would be Iturbe’s prefered destination over Serie A champions Juventus.

Milan are looking to bounce back from a terrible season with new coach Filippo Inzaghi hoping to secure the Argentinian’s services.

Owner Silvio Berlusconi is understood to be personally bankrolling this transfer with a €25 million offer already on the table.

However the Bianconeri currently have the upper hand with Iturbe close to agreeing personal terms with the Turin giants.

Both Fabio Quagliarella and Federico Peluso could be included in a deal but Hellas Verona are after the full €25 million.

Giuseppe Marotta is keen to avoid a bidding war with Milan which could also work to il Diavolo‘s advantage.

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/06/ve...-over-juventus/

What? We sold Paloschi? Is this official?

Yes, we sold the 50% we had of his contract to Chievo

Brings our grand total of earnings from him to 7 million.

I don't believe the faith in SES is blind at all, the guy scored 14 goals when we were in dire need of a goal scorer. I think that he hasn't been used effectively, and I'm becoming more unsure of his ability to play alongside Balotelli. That being said, they are both still very young so there is time for them to adapt the way that they play to cater to one another. As SES regains his fitness I believe that his form will improve.

What a pathetic move! Goddammit, I wanted him back with us here.

Looks like I am not the only one who thinks that the Italian NT should dump the "senators" and build on youth (link).

Meanwhile, apparently Mino Raiola is trying to sell Balo to Juve (zero cost to Juve), while Barbara is after Galliani (again) because she thinks that Raiola has been a disaster for us (link). Very strange ...

I'm reading various Croatian newspapers (Jutarnji list/Sportske novosti) Šime Vrsaljko of Genoa is close to signing for Milan.

That could mean DS is on his way out. Probably to help pay for Iturbe.

How good is Šime?

Vrsaljsko is a young right fullback. I'd say Abate may be out. Anyway, has some potential, but questionable for me.

Sunday People claim ManU are willing to offer 10 million pound for De Jong.

Link

Kaka is out. Seems official.

I read someplace yesterday that we're going to swap Birsa with Eremenko (Rubin Kazan) as Montolivo's replacement.

Who???

Roman Eremenko, 27-y-o Russian-born Finnish midfielder of Rubinz Kazan.

Would be great

Galliani...

Sign Ochoa now!!!!

..not tomorrow - NOW!

I've read about this earlier as well.

Reports are now apparently suggesting without Birsa.

Either way i am not famillar with Eremenko, but based on this (if it holds any truth)...

Sky's Di Marzio: "Milan see Eremenko as a possible vice-Montolivo. Spaletti and Capello have recommended him to Milan."

I think he would be a good capture.

For obvious reasons, if we were to go for him I wish Birsa was part of the deal!

Eremenko is pretty decent.

He probably will leave, and yes, the speculation is LVG wants him at Utd, but £10M would be ludicrous.

He said he wants to stay, so I don't get how you think he will leave.

Because he said he wants to stay.

So he should have said that he wants to leave?

I think I was too subtle.

When a player says they want to stay, 99% of the time they end up moving.

OFFICIAL: Kaká is gone.

I didn't rate him at all when we signed him. But he's stuck two fingers up to me and shut me up since he joined Milan. His behaviour on the pitch, one of my bigger criticisms of him, has been fantastic. I wouldn't even acknowledge a £10m for him it's far under his value.

Robinho should be next. Don't get me wrong, I would have been more than okay with Kaka staying for another season (I even said this more than once) but the money we were paying him when we have so many financial issues was just not feasible.

And agreed about De Jong, he should be in an exclusive list of players that we absolutely must hold on to this summer. 10m is pocket change these days, if we even consider this... Just no words