Ach, we're giving 10M Euros to Seedorf...

But I'd argue the 3.8M is actually yearly wages which works out at around 70,000 a week.

well that is right.. we have a supposedly cap of 2.5 million annual wage. that is around 40k per week. Secondly that is what we need to pay the player. The taxes law actually makes the wage almost double as usually the club pays of the taxes.

Actually, Bonera is pretty crap in the air...



Barely used by Seedorf? Mexes was an absolute starter in the last two months. As soon as Seedorf realized that he and Rami formed the strongest pairing we have he never touched them ever since.



Exactly. Besides, I don't think Menez is worth that much money. I'd give him €2.5 million max.

I'm mostly comparing him to other defenders besides Alex because I'm mentioning some of the flaws some defenders have, which Mexes doesn't.


But see this is where you confuse me a bit, what does his discipline (or lack-there-of, I'll give you that) have to do with his abilities as a defender?

Yes, he's a total hot head, but as a defender he's imo the best we have and in certain aspects that I personally view as the most important that a defender should have, I think Mexes is better than Alex. Alex of course has certain areas where he's better than Mexes. But the fact that Mexes is a hot head for me shouldn't factor into a discussion about how good he is as a defender.


Now this bit I totally can't agree with

Mexes is our most played CB this season with 22 appearances in Serie A and 5 in the CL all of which were starts bar 1 game in the CL

I don't see this regression you speak of, he's always been a total hot head, even at Roma, and he's always had the occasional moments where he's made mistakes due to lack of concentration, which is a crucial reason as to why he was never considered as a top tier CB

Don't agree but then, I refuse to get into a Bonera battle with you and Han

Well hopefully he leaves and you and I can stop bloody arguing about his strengths and weaknesses

What is it with you and Bonera?

Bonera is a seriously limited player, who may have a couple of encouraging games but can leave you to rue the day you ever trusted him. Ask Allegri, he damn well ended his stint at Milan with his mistakes against Sassuolo


Hopefully he stays and we can continue having this wonderful conversation

You should bloody LOVE him then



The grapevine is buzzing this morning.

Santon, Ganso, Negredo, Darmian, Banega, Menez, Alex.

The only bad news is De Jong is considering his future.

Watch Celtic-Milan again.

According to this, Alex and Menez are done deals (apparently Juve was after Alex as well). Still after Rami. Mexes is probably out.

Also, according to this:
- The situation with Balo is unclear, as it looks like Pippo may want him at the center of his 4-3-3 (which explains Berlu's comments). If Balo leaves we may be after Mandzukic (who has less space at Bayern). He is expected to cost 30M (which apparently is what we expect to get from Balo).
- El Sha is staying and will play a key role. Pazzo also likely to stay.
- Kaka would end up as a sub, which means he may leave (MLS?). Same with Honda.
- Desperately trying to unload Matri (maybe Samp will get him at a discount) and Robinho (though apparently nobody wants to pay his salary - what a surprise! oh why, why did we renew his contract last year?)
- Unlikely we will get Taarabt
- CD: still after Rami (apparently we are working out a deal with Valencia). Bonera stays. Unclear what we want to do with Zapata. Mexes would have to accept a salary reduction or he is out.
- Fullbacks: we will play both Abate and DS (apparently this was one of Galliani's big disagreements with Seedorf). We may also be after Gabriel Silva (Udinese), as apparently he reminds Inzaghi of Serginho.
- Midfield: the strategy is less clear. With Monto out, the combination De Jong, Muntari and Essien (assuming he stays) is seen as "lacking quality". Cristiante and Poli are likely to stay. Unclear if we are after anyone else.

Yeah, read that as well. Apparently he is not happy with what we did to Seedorf.

Allegri to Lazio?

Watch Inter-Milan again.

So the latest news is Turkish media have Balotelli close to signing for Galatasaray while Balotelli himself has changed his Twitter background to Galatasaray's symbol - a lion.

Whether he is just taking the p*ss or is being sincere, who knows.

One game doesn't change anything. When has Bonera ever been good in the air? Never.

Balo to Galatasaray a done deal? What a shame!

Hardly.

I think De Jong will stay and I'd take all of those players in a heart beat. Especially if it means getting rid of some of the dead weight we carry around in this team


1 good game in 5 years isn't really a good argument to make in Bonera's favour


Obviously taking the p!ss, just 23 years old, why on earth would he ever want to go to Turkey?

I think we'll keep Balo in the end. Unless we're really strapped tight for cash or he has a great WC and we get some massive offer for him, I don't see much benefit in selling him, especially since any good striker would require the same kind of money we'd get for selling Balo

Looks like 2M, at least according to this. If true, that is much more reasonable.

AFAIAC, it all depends on how much money we get out of Balo and who replaces him. Not sure if Balo will ever live up to his potential, and we need someone we can count on.

In any case, my guess is that we will wait until after the WC to decide, so this feels like someone trying to make news. (Will see ...)

FWIW, there is talk about "personal terms" but no indication as to how much Gala is willing to pay Milan. I believe Balo is close to Mancio (which explains "why Turkey"), but he is under contract with us, and I get the impression that he can be talked out of leaving. So even if the rumor is correct, it does not look like a "done deal" to me. (At least not yet.)

I still think it's just someone bored trying to make news. Especially because of the Mancini link to make it more "plausible"

PSG make an offer for Abate apparently.

It's being reported at 8m. If we sell him to PSG of all Clubs for 8m I will seriously be pissed the f@ck off.

We're the worst negotiators in Europe currently. And that would mean giving PSG THREE freebies basically considering what they've paid for other players and what they've paid us for Zlatan and Silva

But with all the talk of Pippo wanting both Abate and DS and wanting to play them both I'm hoping this is a bit of nonsense due to the fact that we're taking 2 players off them for free. Especially since I read on another forum that Abate's father will most likely be the GK coach at one of the youth levels for us

I have a feeling the two freebies we got were part-payment for Abate...

How? They're both free agents. PSG have no say in what they decide to do.

According to this, we've proposed a severance pay to Mexes so he agrees to terminate his contract with us.

Mind blown...

You know what, I've had enough with Milannews, Tuttomercatoweb and all these petty websites. Every day they came up with all kinds of sh*t, it's hard to believe what's real and what's an invention. Better stick to Mediaset and Gazzetta. At least they're reliable and consistent in their articles.

The fact that they made an offer does not mean we will accept it.

Mediaset is Silvio's news agency. Not surprised it's accurate!

My guess is Galliani asked PSG to 'persuade' them both to come to us in order for a cut-price deal on Abate.

tbh Milan aren't that attractive right now, I'm amazed anyone would come to us

Define "attractive", we are not talking about Ronaldo or Messi. What you are saying may be indeed what happened, but AFAIAC all we have right now is an unconfirmed rumor, and even if an offer was made there is no indication that it has been accepted (at least not yet).

Nah, I'm sure they both would have easily found a club, and I find it hard to believe that any player would take advice from his old employers as to where he should go next.

Abate has been linked to PSG in the past, so it's not THAT surprising. But 8m should never be enough for him, especially not from a team like PSG who are willing to throw away 50m on an awful defender like David Luiz. A Russian team offered more than that last summer for Abate anyway

That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if they took it. Galliani is just THAT stupid.

What I've read is PSG offered 8, we want at least 12. That's all I know. 12 is fair price for Abate. Which is what I don't get. When everything is so exorbitant, let's ask for 18 million and then settle for 14 million and first option on Verratti.

Alex will become 4th choice with Silva, Luiz and Marquinhos there. Menez barely finds place anymore. I think they want to leave regardless of what our intentions are. From what I've read, Menez was going to say yes to Fiorentina before we contacted him.

And he chose us over a team who have Europe?

Doesn't seem just a little odd?

It's not like he's a top defender in the prime of his career.

Were there any other top teams who actually wanted him? That's what you really have to ask

he is referring to menez i think

if it is about Menez, as x-off said, he was about to join Fiorentina, but we can still offer him better money than them, Europe or no Europe

So, you would choose Fiorentina who play in the EL over Milan? C'mon, nobody is that foolish. Milan are still a huge name. Just because you're playing the EL cannot be considered an advantage. If they were playing CL, that's another matter.

I may disagree with Galliani's choices and policies, and I don't believe he is the right person for Milan these days, but stupid he is not.

Apparently Juve also was after Alex, but I doubt it he would start there.

I agree that EL does not have the same appeal as CL. In addition, I believe Menez has a better chance to start at Milan, and my guess is that Fiorentina was not going to offer as much money. Finally, Fiorentina is doing well these days, but it is not Milan. Those of us on this forum tend to be rather pessimistic (arguably for good reasons), but I believe we still have more appeal than Fiorentina. (BTW, I have nothing against Fiorentina, my brother is a fan and I generally support them when they are not competing with Milan.)

First option on him will mean nothing since we won't be willing to meet their valuation/match bid of another team.

Roma weren't in the CL last season, just the EL, and we lost out on Ljajjic, Pjanic and Strootman to them.

So those 3 were THAT foolish, I guess.

I thought we have a stubborn refusal to spend money?

I think you are looking at this the wrong way. Did we even make a real effort to get any of these players? No, because we were too busy with the Allegri-Berlu drama for half the transfer season, followed by the Honda / Jovetic drama, and then we decided to spend the money on Matri instead. (And yes, we talked about them on this forum and probably they were mentioned in the media, but that is not quite the same.)

Or are you saying that these players would have not gone to Roma if Roma was not in EL? (If so, I believe you are only looking at one of many factors that go in a player's decision.)

We have money to spend, just not a lot of it and IMHO we spend it the wrong way. We are unwilling to pay transfer fees, but we seem to have no problem with salaries (yes, we do have salary caps, but we pay way too much for mid-level players).

Well going by the decisions he's made over the past 10 years I really don't know what to call him any more.

The fact that people used to call him a transfer guru is laughable


As I said, neither player will be hard pressed to find another club, it's just a matter of what they want in the end. Playing time/CL team/big salary/etc


Agreed

I'd only sell Abate for enough money to get us Santon and a bit of profit, if not, I'd rather keep him as it's difficult to find a good RB nowadays especially with the lack of money we're willing to spend


Strootman I highly doubt we were ever really serious in getting, it just reeks of the usual BS and then finding out we never even contacted his agent.

And Ljajic there was that whole back story with Fiorentina not wanting to give him to us and making him sign for Roma as the player would have wanted to come to Milan more than anything else.

Pjanic, I don't know what happened there


I think we shy away from big transfer fees, but when it comes to ridiculously throwing money at players in terms of wages we come in first in the league at that. That's why Napoli, Fiorentina and Roma all have relatively manageable wage bills compared to our exorbitant one.

Muntari probably earns as much as half the team of Parma, and they came in ahead of us in the league. Just to put that into perspective a bit