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post Aug 27 2014, 06:50 PM
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Torres wants a 3 year deal last I heard. End of the day if we end up with him at least he'll give us the effort Balo wouldn't.

I'd rather have Torres in my team than Balo, because while Torres is a shadow of his old self, at least he tries and doesn't disrupt the rest of the Club.
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post Aug 27 2014, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 26 2014, 08:27 AM) *
This seems to be a recurring theme in modern football. When fans aren't happy with the team, they stop wanting to pay anything into the Club. If they're happy with the team, they're happy to pay.

Yet...football support is surely unequivocal. If you support the club you can't pick and choose when you do and don't support it?

It's like a family - you can't choose who your family are, and you suffer them in the bad times as well as enjoying the good times.

Unfortunately, the modern football fan expects a certain standard, and if he or she deems it not having been met, they no longer support the club.

Not sure I like the modern football supporter tbh. And that's not an attack at you Han, just a general observation on a mentality in general that I cannot identify with.

If one's family is a bunch of jerks/idiots then it's best to leave them. It happens all the time. Nobody is asking that win the league or CL every year. Just an effort to show that we have some ambition.
QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 27 2014, 02:50 PM) *
Torres wants a 3 year deal last I heard. End of the day if we end up with him at least he'll give us the effort Balo wouldn't.

I'd rather have Torres in my team than Balo, because while Torres is a shadow of his old self, at least he tries and doesn't disrupt the rest of the Club.

Disagree. Balo with all of his problems adds so much to our team. The ONLY advantage that Torres adds is that he works harder off the ball. But without our midfield being functional or cohesive unit I see him cutting an isolated and frustrated figure up front. He has less ability to create his own chances (especially with his decreased pace) and isn't nearly the deadball specialist that Balo is. Massive downgrade.
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post Aug 27 2014, 07:05 PM
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AFAIAC, there is only down-side with someone like Torres. His last few years have been a disaster, why do we think he will do any better with Milan? Most likely, we will end up with yet another over-paid player we do not want, and we will struggle getting rid of him. (Think Matri or Robinho, except worse.)

Look at other teams. For example, Juve bought Vidal for 10M (which is probably less than what Torres will cost us), they had three great years with him, and it now looks like they are selling him for 50M. Roma has done similar deals. Udinese. Fiorentina. Difference is, other teams look to invest in the future, we just seem to go for the "quick fix".

Frankly, I would rather we sit on the money we got from Balo until we find someone really worth getting.
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post Aug 27 2014, 08:32 PM
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lol so Van Ginkel rejected us and now we are betraying Rami... f@ck this team sideways...
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post Aug 27 2014, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 27 2014, 06:00 PM) *
Disagree. Balo with all of his problems adds so much to our team. The ONLY advantage that Torres adds is that he works harder off the ball. But without our midfield being functional or cohesive unit I see him cutting an isolated and frustrated figure up front. He has less ability to create his own chances (especially with his decreased pace) and isn't nearly the deadball specialist that Balo is. Massive downgrade.


Balo was a destructive force who added f*ck all to our team last season. Torres is a team player, Balo isn't.
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post Aug 27 2014, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Aug 27 2014, 07:32 PM) *
lol so Van Ginkel rejected us and now we are betraying Rami... f@ck this team sideways...


In the club's defence we've only received an offer. It hasn't been accepted.
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post Aug 27 2014, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 27 2014, 02:37 PM) *
In the club's defence we've only received an offer. It hasn't been accepted.


From FI: "he took a pay cut and gave up on bonuses to help his transfer go through from Valencia last month."

That's why it's f@cked up!



Rami via Twitter just now: “Thanks to everyone for your messages, really, BUT I am a Rossonero and I’m not leaving Milan. #ForzaMilan with all due respect for Monaco.

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post Aug 27 2014, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 27 2014, 02:35 PM) *
We're not there yet. Hopefully, up until then we'll have a new board and a new president.

I don't think Silvio will leave Milan before he's drained every last ounce of it, so anyone worth selling will be sold, the only reason we haven't sold SES and DS yet is because we can afford to sit on them for a bit longer while their value rises because they have comparatively low wages.

This transfer window has been an utter and complete disaster, probably even eclipses the Ibra + Silva debacle. We've spent absolutely no money aside from 4.7m on Rami who might be on his way out anyway for a little bit of profit. We've sold our only star player (whether you think it was a correct decision or not is neither here nor there), we still have not found the winger Pippo wants although sky are saying that we're close to Biabiany (FFS (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) ), we still have not signed the much needed midfielder that we absolutely and crucially need and got rejected by a Chelsea bench warmer in the process, and even worse, we seem to have no plan to replace Mario aside from Torres or Borini. Just utterly unbelievable, and even worse, they knew they would be selling Mario for months now and instead of securing a replacement before selling him, they did jack sh!t for 3 months straight while sitting on the knowledge that they would definitely be selling him. Just unbelievable the level of mismanagement and utter lack of ambition Galliani and his cohorts have shown this summer

Our transfer season has been the typical downward spiral of promising rumours about great players to being close to signing the likes of Biabiany and Borini/Torres.

Our winger persuit has gone; Iturbe > Douglas Costa > Cerci > Lestienne > Biabiany!!

How f@cking depressing is that?
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post Aug 27 2014, 09:17 PM
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I would consider Poli a new signing!

If this is how the transfer window will turn out to be, he claims he was played out of position last season, lets see what he's got this time around. Since the club can not afford certain players for him Andrea to play second fiddle with, he has the luxury of that. And at an important club, he should be motivated to do his best.

*off with the rose-tinted glasses*
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post Aug 27 2014, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 27 2014, 04:36 PM) *
Balo was a destructive force who added f*ck all to our team last season. Torres is a team player, Balo isn't.

What a breathtakingly intelligent individual you are!! 30 goals in 53 games? Bah! Present day Emile Heskey could do that with Milan's ultra high quality squad

Torres plays with a team that just keeps stacking on World Class talent and scored 20 goals in 110 games
Balotelli has scored 30 goals in 53 games.... a rate that's almost what Fernando scored in his prime at Liverpool

You were probably one of the geniuses that blames him for Italy's disastrous campaign. I have nothing but the deepest respect and admiration for people like this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Aug 27 2014, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 27 2014, 08:32 PM) *
What a breathtakingly intelligent individual you are!! 30 goals in 53 games? Bah! Present day Emile Heskey could do that with Milan's ultra high quality squad

Torres plays with a team that just keeps stacking on World Class talent and scored 20 goals in 110 games
Balotelli has scored 30 goals in 53 games.... a rate that's almost what Fernando scored in his prime at Liverpool

You were probably one of the geniuses that blames him for Italy's disastrous campaign. I have nothing but the deepest respect and admiration for people like this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)


Not really sure why you have to behave like a w*nker in order to express your view.
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post Aug 27 2014, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Aug 27 2014, 07:40 PM) *
From FI: "he took a pay cut and gave up on bonuses to help his transfer go through from Valencia last month."

That's why it's f@cked up!


It's NOT f*cked up. It would only be f*cked up if we accepted the offer. There is NOTHING wrong with Milan receiving an offer from another club. How can you possibly blame Milan for Monaco bidding for Rami?

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If we accept the offer then it's a different story, and that would be a poor show to say the least. But he's shown great commitment to our club and I'd like us to repay that commitment by rejecting any offer, unless it really is BIG.
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 27 2014, 05:53 PM) *
Not really sure why you have to behave like a w*nker in order to express your view.

Whatever. You're still my hero. Balo has done f**k all is a statement that I will always treasure. Not only because it is so correct, accurate and apt....but because it came from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

When I grow up I will see the genius behind you thinking that Torres is better for our team. ATM I'm too stupid to see it (forgive me. you are so right to call me a wanker (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ). But I'm (stupidly) holding on to the idea that if a guy struggles to score in a team overflowing with creative players....how is he going to score with our midfield? silly, I know but the thing is....when all else failed, Balo could have made a goal out of nothing such as a trick/shot from distance/free-kick....what is Torres going to do?

Pazzo is a hard worker, team player, runs all match long, is professional etc etc but he simply isn't very talented so his output is always going to be lower than Balo's. The problem with Balo is that he could have been so much MORE. I'm not sure how that translates into being nothing though.

Without his fearsome pace what is Torres going to do? He isn't much of a dribbler these days...Anyway that's me being an illogical wanker again. I have utmost faith in your statements. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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post Aug 27 2014, 10:12 PM
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I would rather you played for Milan than Balo, Dru. As awful as your posts are, you clearly care. That's the difference.
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 27 2014, 03:56 PM) *
It's NOT f*cked up. It would only be f*cked up if we accepted the offer. There is NOTHING wrong with Milan receiving an offer from another club. How can you possibly blame Milan for Monaco bidding for Rami?



If we accept the offer then it's a different story, and that would be a poor show to say the least. But he's shown great commitment to our club and I'd like us to repay that commitment by rejecting any offer, unless it really is BIG.


The rumor was that they offered him to Monaco. Also Milan channel confirmed they were considering an offer from Monaco. That's enough for me for it to be a bad thing.
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