Unclear? It's the closest we are to bringing someone. It only depends on van Ginkel.

Unclear because he supposedly rejected us, with Milan channel the only outlet as far as I know saying that it could still happen (obviously trying to save face at this point)

Anyone know when the transfer window closes in Italy?

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/...oan-agreed.html

torres on loan for 2 years is official..

On loan? I wonder what we're going to be doing about his wages, because what he's currently earning at Chelsea is insane and blows our "wage cap" out of the water...

I can only guess we're splitting the costs with Chelsea if it's a loan.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to just terminate his contract and figure out a new deal with us?

As always on 31 August at 7:00 PM.



Terrible signing. He'll flop big time IMO. But he's with us now, so welcome Fernando!

I don't think he'll be as terrible as people might think.

Me from 7 years ago would have been excited. Me from today? not so much. Matri 2.0.

I fear this will be Matri 2.0, and I really hope to be proven wrong. (At least it is a loan, so we do not have to try to sell him.)

Does anyone know how much we are paying for the privilege? And does anyone believe this will help us sell tickets?

And signing Biabiany would be an icing on a rotten cake.

Yep, rumours are intensifying on that front, although Zaccardo will be included, so 1 deadweight in, 1 deadweight out.

Albertazzi refused a loan move to some Serie B side last I read, I wonder why we even bought back half his contract... Also Gabriel will most likely be loaned out.

Or he will refuse like he did with Genoa and we'll get both.

+1.

Actually hopeful about Torres. Expect around 10 to 15 goals a season from him. On par return for a striker who will cost us around 6 to 8 million tops over the 2 years of his contract. We're getting him for free and the salary is 3 or 3.5 million rising up to 4 with bonus. I have to say that our wage cap is being held inviolate and I like it.

Btw. Rumors that Rabiot might go to Roma for 15 million!! Whoa!

In 4 years at Chelsea he's scored 20 league goals. You think he'll score 15 in one?

I think it's time Jack explained why Torres sucked at Chelsea.

fwiw I am actually pleased with the signing too. Initially I nearly chucked up, but now, weighing it up, I'm a lot more optimistic about him than I was before.

He's a technical pace striker, who was actually used as a target man battering ram at Chelsea. AKA a 'Drogba'. It didn't work and it damaged him a lot.

If Conte thinks this will work out for Pippo's Milan, I trust him - because while he's a Juventini, he's an excellent manager with top class judgement.

Weirder things have happened.

I think Torres suffered Kaká's fate, who after leaving us at 27 never was the same old player, and at 30 he was already a finished player. Can't see Torres doing more than what Kaká did for us last season. Another typical B&G signing, lots of appeal but zero planning. Just like Alex.

Torres will be for us exactly like Sheva was on his second stint. Mark my words.

Milan have sold Paloschi for a few millions, and now have signed Torres who will eat those millions in salary. Long term it's obvious what was the wise thing to do, but management seems impatient ...again...

Sadly, there are more examples to give.

Wasn't their some youth project?

That lasted long then.

Ok taking a look at his stats last season, he started 24 games for chelsea and scored 16 in all competitions. I think this sort of thing happens when a player loses confidence and is given a lot of sub opportunities instead of starts. He had 23 sub ins last season for chelsea.

This guy was one of my all times favorites. At his prime he was like no other IMO. I personally think it's too late for him to turn it around, especially for a player that peaked so early but his starts vs goal ratio last season is good. We'll see if Pippo can give the guy some confidence and truly count on him, then he might just step up!

Actually he was garbage for us for the last two years. Garbage by his own high standards. Ronaldo and Messi surpassed him totally. Hence us selling him was a genius piece of business.

Looking at his overall Chelsea stats:

172 appearances, 46 goals

It's over one in 4. For a player desperately low on form & confidence it's better than you'd actually think.

Hopefully Pippo can instill confidence in him again, and get him scoring because I agree - when on form he was an absolutely pearling striker.

No gold letters this time

You guys compare Torres with Kaka, but forget that they're completely different players. In his early years, Torres used to rely on his speed. But here the parallel ends. Kaka is an AM/SS and as such, his pace, acceleration and dribbling skill were vital. Strikers like Torres are a completely different breed. Just remember Inzaghi. Whit loosing his speed, he only got more lethal in the box.

Yeah that whole youth thing never really got off the ground, did it? I'm very disappointed with Milan's stance on Paloschi over these last few years. You'd have thought we'd have given him a chance at some point rather than just shipping him around.

Nah, not comparing them in that sense, more like drawing a parallel between their late careers.

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Alex - 0€
Menez - 0€
Armero - 0€
Diego Lopez - 0€
Fernando Torres - 0€

Well now...

Paloschi scored more than Torres last season. 15 goals in 36 games > 11 goals in 41 games. True story.

Champions League money in the foreseeable future - 0€

Sell the club...



Welcome Galliani!

I guess I'm with the minor group here. I too am optimistic about Torres. I think he would do better than balo. He just needs his confidence back

I'm really hoping that at least some money will be spent on a CM in these final 2 days we have left.

Although I'm also dreading the possibility of signing Biabiany who'd only be useful for us as a sub.

Niang , El Sha , Albertazzi , Sapa, Mattia De Sciglio , Hachim Mastour , Bryan Cristante are Milan youth what are you talking about. Ofc not all will make the first team but most will play a big role this season.

I'm annoyed we didnt just keep Paloschi tho......Torres is shite if he can't score in England where the defense are more open how the hell will he do it in Serie A... also we got him on loan so we won't be paying his wages or at least not all.

Torres at his best was 20x the player Balo is. He was debatably the world's best striker. Balo wasn't even the best striker in Serie A. And he's only going to be a fringe player at Liverpool.

tbh his career can go down the tubes as far as I am concerned. I do not like him.

+1

You know, on the bright side, it's a two-year loan deal. Even if he fails we won't have lost anything aside from his wages, which is OK. And two years is not a long time.

I never agreed with that. Always thought he was overrated, even during his Liverpool years.

And now after years of showing poor form, Milan signs him on a two year loan as main striker.

I have never liked him. And I am liking where Milan is going with the day less.

42 games, 27 goals at his peak. You were clearly wrong.

Actually it's the weirdest loan I've ever seen. It's a free transfer in everything but name. He 'had' two years of his Chelsea deal to run but it's been severed given this loan deal will expire at the same time as his Chelsea contract.

So it's basically a free transfer really.

Yep, correct.

What? 3 of those are Milan youth, I'll give you Albertazzi too, but even he's nearly 24 and never played for us. Of the 3 that are Milan youth, there's absolutely no chance Mastour will play a "big role" this season.

So of all players from the Milan academy, there's just Cristante and MDS who are young players coming through into the first team who will likely play 20 games+.

We've spent around 11 million euros + Merkel to get El Shaarawy, and you consider him Milan youth?

Merkel, now him you can consider Milan youth. Milan decided they rather have someone from Genoa's youth instead.

And where is Merkel these days anyway?

Merkel has been taking various trips in Europe. Letting him go didn't turn out to be a mistake so far, but with others like Darmian and Paloschi it did. Milan should have more patience with certain youth players. All of these three didn't look half bad when still at Milan, and two of them turned out good.

Gallaini said, I believe it was last summer, that out youth academy will not be ignored. I hope this isn't just talk and the future Darmian's and Paoschi's of the World will be given a fair chance.

Well well it seems Falcao is heading to Madrid.

Madrid remind me of the galacticos v1, where they just give Makalele to Chelsea, as if he was fodder. The same is repeating itself with Di Maria and now Alonso! Skeptical on how Carlo can do without them.


IN other news, Torres is our player for the next two years, trust Inzaghi to get the best out of him, but skeptical in that sponsors give the club a quota to fill the first team with X amount of world class players. I don't consider Torres to be wc, but sponsors look at the marketing side.

Don't think it is fair to judge on the youth products we have, progress has been done since 2008 to upgrade wholly the process of procuring and training potential players. Six years, summer of 2014 and you expect results? What if what if and what if, or maybe Galliani is at it again. But I know this, having players like Paloschi playing in top flight leagues, gives our youth academy a thumbs up. We could have used him, and Carlo was the only one who did, but since then non of our coaches gave him a chance. The youtube clips we use for reference are of the finest moments, but what of the rest of the matches? I never really watched him, and tbh if he was any good we would have his name in golden letters already.

Excuse me?

42 games, 27 goals, what does that say? It says how much he has scored during one season, that's all. And that's how one can get overrated. If we go all-in on analyzing through stats, I was clearly right while he only did worse since then.