Feeder or not, van Ginkel isn't half bad from what I've heard. And the option to buy clause is a good thing as well.

We did not include an option to buy, that's the main problem...

Anyway, it's not like we'd exercise that option to buy anyway if it's anything above 5m we're not going to go for it, we'll end up making @sses of ourselves like we did in the Rami situation

Dam it, I misread.

According to Mediaset, we've offered Rami to Monaco, in order to get the money to pay Torres' salary.

WTF?! Like seriously, what the flying f*ck?!

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Maybe Falcao, but Torres? Seriously???

So Torres earns about 9 million. And we've told Chelsea we're willing to pay 3 million and not more. Chelsea in fact are okay with paying the remaining half of his salary. Now Torres is the one dragging his feet. He wants a 3 year deal, else he says Chelsea pays out his contract (this is pure rumour/speculation).

I think I'm sort of okay with that. I actually do not think like the majority that Torres is a horrible striker who's lost everything. I believe at 3 million wages, he presents an excellent value add for a team whose only goal this season is to finish in Europe. And I like him better than the other options presented - Borini, Negredo. I also have my own pet theory as to why he sucks so bad in Chelsea. It's not an educated pundit's view, but I just went through a lot of videos comparing Torres at Chelsea v Torres at Liverpool.

EDIT: We've agreed to pay 3.5 million euros in wages, the rest will be on Chelsea. (At 175,000 GBP a week, his salary comes to 9 million GBP a year). No decision yet.

I think it's a great bit of business.

So just for this year, when we have no money coz of no CL and horrible season tickets - we get to strengthen using van Ginkel and Torres, leaving transfer funds intact to buy a winger and proper forward either in January or the next summer without any obligations.

In a way it's what han said. We are choosing to get no one rather than getting a substandard player, but you know that would leave us in shite for the season. So instead we loan them. R7 would call it Operating Expense vs. Capital Expense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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I don't get the Rami link. Unless it's a makeweight for Falaco to come on loan. So instead of paying a loan fee, you send out Rami.

On a related note, Ogbonna availble for 15 MM from Juventus. Yes or no?

No. I think he's overrated. He's got potential, but I'd rather pay 15 MM to Torino and bring our own little kid back.

Darmian? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yes!

Ok. But I was thinking of Ogbonna as a CB actually more than a LB. I'd like to have a solid CB who we can trust for the next 5-6 years.

Is he trustworthy though?

We seem to be downgrading every year. It won't be long until it gets to a point where we don't have anyone worth selling, what will the management do then?

We're not there yet. Hopefully, up until then we'll have a new board and a new president.

I'm actually glad we have no one left to sell. We'll be forced to be innovative then and smarter. I think we can do it. We have a very stable backbone, only the operating procedures needs to be worked on.

Coming back to topic...

It's clear now that Chelsea and Milan are in agreement on the loan. Milan seem to stand strong on the wages. Torres now has to take a wage cut and football italia are running a story putting the difference at 2.5 million euros. So Torres needs to take a paycut of 2.5 million euros for the deal to go through.

Last week of the window. #GallianiZone

Van ginnkel has rejected milan as per football italia