Rossoneri7
Jan 16 2007, 03:15 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 16 2007, 05:11 PM)
Now that is just sick
han2503
Jan 16 2007, 03:15 PM
fresh_prince7
Jan 16 2007, 04:33 PM
Hleb Questions Shevchenko Decision
Arsenal midfielder Alexander Hleb believes Andriy Shevchenko should not have joined Chelsea in the summer.
The 30-year-old former Milan star has struggled at Stamford Bridge after scoring on his debut against Liverpool in the Community Shield.
Hleb told The Sun: "I would never have risked coming to England towards the end of my career. The older you get, the harder it gets.
"I was never convinced he would be able to play in England. I don't have anything against him. I respect him and rate him as a player.
"The problem lies in the style of the English league, in terms of the tempo and the time you get to think on the pitch.
"The Italian and English leagues are two very different propositions. And the younger a player is, the easier it is for him to adapt and get to grips with English football.
"There has been talk that Mourinho and Shevchenko have not found a common language.
"In my case, Arsene Wenger's role in helping me establish myself as a first-team regular was invaluable."
fresh_prince7
Jan 16 2007, 04:36 PM
Hmmm I think these 'homosexual' conspiracy is abit farfetched..
Haha nothing like kicking a man even more while he's down..
I'm on the bandwagon who feel sorry to see such a great player falling..
agenth
Jan 16 2007, 06:43 PM
it's not farfetched,
I'm sure there are some gay football players, but they hide it, because their career would be ruined...
that would explain sheva's not scoring abilities.
yaya, just think I'm some crazy girl LOL
han2503
Jan 16 2007, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (mchanna @ Jan 16 2007, 05:43 PM)
it's not farfetched,
I'm sure there are some gay football players, but they hide it, because their career would be ruined...
that would explain sheva's not scoring abilities.yaya, just think I'm some crazy girl LOL
Do you mean scoring goals, or scoring poles?
Portman
Jan 16 2007, 07:11 PM
QUOTE
Chelsea players fear media 'snitch' Shevchenko
tribalfooball.com - January 16, 2007
Andriy Shevchenko is reportedly regarded by Chelsea teammates as a 'snitch'.
The Mirror says the rest of the players blame the £30million flop for the row between Abramovich and boss Jose Mourinho that is threatening to sabotage their season. They feel that Shevchenko, a close friend of Abramovich, is the owner's eyes and ears in the dressing room.
And they have been unsettled by the fact that the smallest details of the struggling striker's dealings with Mourinho appear to have found their way back to the owner.
"The players feel that if he is talking to Abramovich about his relationship with Jose, then what else is getting back," a source close to the team said last night. "They feel uncomfortable about the situation.
"It's a shame because the players think Sheva's basically a decent bloke but they can't really trust him any more and that's obviously no good for team morale."
han2503
Jan 16 2007, 07:20 PM
Sheva just seems like he is manageing to hit a new low every other day
agenth
Jan 16 2007, 07:32 PM
If that rumour would be true, say hypothetically, and his wife 'tortures' him mentally, with those "what have you done" gazes, and co,....
that explains why he'S unable to score goals lol
han2503
Jan 16 2007, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (mchanna @ Jan 16 2007, 06:32 PM)
If that rumour would be true, say hypothetically, and his wife 'tortures' him mentally, with those "what have you done" gazes, and co,....
that explains why he'S unable to score goals lol
Oh so you meant goals. Sorry I thought you meant something else
fresh_prince7
Jan 16 2007, 07:44 PM
Haha nothings going right for him, poor guys going to commit suicide at this rate.
fresh_prince7
Jan 17 2007, 08:01 AM
Shevchenko backs Ancelotti for Chelsea job
tribalfooball.com - January 16, 2007
Andriy Shevchenko wants his former AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti to replace Jose Mourinho at Chelsea.
Shevchenko is reported by the Italian press to have told Roman Abramovich that Ancelotti is the man to get the best out of him and advised the Chelsea owner to bring the Italian to Stamford Bridge.
Shevchenko is supposed to have told Abramovich that "Ancelotti's the man for the job, he's just the man for us", which will hardly endear him to Mourinho, whose long-term position at Chelsea is in doubt.
Mourinho and several senior Chelsea players are suspicious of the perceived influence he has over the owner, which is shown by Abramovich's desire to recruit Avram Grant, the Portsmouth director of football, to improve the striker's form.
For his part, Abramovich is angry with Mourinho for failing to get the best out of a proven goalscorer who cost a club-record £30 million last summer and has taken the view that a player such as Shevchenko should be able to be integrated into any system.
Mourinho contends that he has done everything he can, defending Shevchenko publicly and playing him in every match until a Carling Cup tie away to Blackburn Rovers at the end of October, giving him a rest and attempting to motivate him further by saying that he is not one of his so-called "untouchables".
arivanjj
Jan 17 2007, 08:35 AM
yes, wouldn't you like that.
han2503
Jan 17 2007, 09:52 AM
First he went to London ten he took the Milan physios and shrinks with him and now he wants Carlo.
He went there for change, so I thing that him clinging to the past is not going according to plan.
dst
Jan 17 2007, 11:30 AM
QUOTE
Chelsea players fear media 'snitch' Shevchenko
Mommy that man with the stupid coat won't let me play!! 
QUOTE
Shevchenko backs Ancelotti for Chelsea job
Moommyyy... will you buy me that fatty?? I wanna hop on his belly!QUOTE
For his part, Abramovich is angry with Mourinho for failing to get the best out of a proven goalscorer who cost a club-record £30 million last summer and has taken the view that a player such as Shevchenko should be able to be integrated into any system.
Hey you! My kid is the best in the world so do what I say or you're fired!!... it has now been reduced to a drippy soap opera!! (I'm
almost sad)
arivanjj
Jan 17 2007, 12:33 PM
HAHAHA.. LOOOL
milanistar
Jan 17 2007, 12:55 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Jan 17 2007, 10:30 AM)
... it has now been reduced to a drippy soap opera!! (I'm
almost sad)
Just almost
Rossoneri7
Jan 17 2007, 02:38 PM
I never though this was to be his fate !!!! This is just sad
whoarethepatriots
Jan 17 2007, 04:18 PM
Shevchenko has really fallen from grace
I highly doubt sheva is gay, instead i think his wife coerscied him into going to london
"move to london with or i will leave you"
the convo probably went like that
han2503
Jan 17 2007, 05:48 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jan 17 2007, 03:18 PM)
Shevchenko has really fallen from grace
I highly doubt sheva is gay, instead i think his wife coerscied him into going to london
"move to london with or i will leave you"the convo probably went like that
Wouldn't put it past her, she seems like she is capable opf something like that, and if I where Sheva and she was carrying my child I would have also gone.
But I highly doubt that this is really what happened
agenth
Jan 17 2007, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jan 17 2007, 04:18 PM)
Shevchenko has really fallen from grace
I highly doubt sheva is gay, instead i think his wife coerscied him into going to london
"move to london with or i will leave you"the convo probably went like that
Yeah can be like that...
but the gayness is not a weird thing in football world...
it's just that nobody comes out with it.
I have a good fantasy imagination, so Sheva being gay is not unrealistical for me lol
milanistar
Jan 17 2007, 07:21 PM
Why are you ppl still talking about the reason he left?
I mean who cares if he's gay or not, I don't!
fresh_prince7
Jan 18 2007, 05:56 PM
Haha if his wife said she'd leave him.. he should have asked when. He could have picked up alot better tail than her.

No idea how she is a model.
kaka_sheva
Jan 18 2007, 06:01 PM
QUOTE
I've been made a scapegoat, insists Shevchenko
Andriy Shevchenko says he has been made a scapegoat for Chelsea's current problems and is furious with reports suggesting he has become an unsettling influence at the club.
But Shevchenko, 30, told the Times: 'I am being made a scapegoat for things that have nothing to do with me.
'I have been attacked from all sides but I intend to carry on. I will grit my teeth. I am not a quitter I just want to be kept out of the politics.'
Shevchenko also rejected reports that he is a dressing-room 'spy' of owner and friend Roman Abramovich.
He told ESPNsoccernet: 'This is not true. I'm just one player, I'm part of the team like all the others and I don't think this is true at all.'
'I've got the same relationship [with Abramovich] as other Chelsea players, I'm just one player in the team, and I've got the same relationship as all the other players have.'
The former AC Milan player has shrugged off suggestions that there is tension between him and boss Joe Mourinho and insists he would accept any decision the Portuguese manager made.
He added: 'I highly respect him as a manager.
'Mourinho is a great manager. He has showed how much he's worth by winning so many titles,' he adds.
'He has won many titles, but I cannot judge him either as a coach or as a person because I haven't known him for long enough.
Shevchenko feels he has acclimatized to London, but his on-pitch performances have not been up to scratch and he has come under intense pressure to find the net.
'It's hard to judge my performance,' he says. 'The year is not over yet. So far I have not been at my optimum level, I need time but I'm working as hard as I can.
'I need more time, I need time to fit in, I played for another team, for a long time and now I've come to a new team. I need time and luck as well.'
Shevchenko however has now decided to stop talking to the English media - unless asked to do so by the club.
He declared: 'There have been a lot of quotes coming out from me that I don't even know where they've come from.
'They have caused a lot of hurt to me and my family. From now on other than sanctioned club press conferences all my comments will appear here on my official website.'
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=400383&cc=5901
Rossoneri7
Jan 18 2007, 10:28 PM
LOOOOOOL
Ohh poor Shevchenko .. yes yes ur not a quitter, now go and play golf
agenth
Jan 18 2007, 11:26 PM
I liked the headline "Abramovich's puppy" more *pouts*
Rossoneri7
Jan 18 2007, 11:28 PM
QUOTE (mchanna @ Jan 19 2007, 01:26 AM)
I liked the headline "
Abramovich's puppy" more *pouts*
Fits his charactor just right
Bluesummers
Jan 19 2007, 12:11 AM
He does have a good point though. It's not his fault chelsea are not beating every team 6-0, he is only one player. Secondly whenever he is playing he gets marked like a mofo, so drogba or kalou find more space therefore allowing them to score. Premiership soccer is not a place for 30 year old strikers because you have less than 5 seconds with the ball. What i dont get is why the F*ck would you marry a f*cking g*dd*mn porn star. She models nude, hehehe now we know what sheva did on his lonely nights in milan

. The reason he left was more money, he'll retire in a few years so why not make some extra cash. Also think of this aswell guys, do you honestly think this year and the year after that he would have been able to "save us" if he stayed here, i think not. He's old he's slow he's done and he knows it. Murinho's time is up aswell, he should just leave. He doesnt belong in england, those manager positions only seem to do well with brits. Don't be hating on sheva so much cause he left you, dont cry about it. Even if he steps onto a pitch during his current form, defenders still fear him. Its not like they leave him unmarked. Do you think Puyol isn't afraid of him? Murinho will get cut for two reasons. He is playing the same f@cking style of football for the past two years. WE get it buddy it works. But now some of english defenders have used some brains and now he cant seem to win. IF chelsea were somewhat smart they would have bought fernando torres who could adapt, not some striker whose pretty much old and useless. sorry for gramatic errors.
agenth
Jan 19 2007, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 19 2007, 12:11 AM)
He does have a good point though. It's not his fault chelsea are not beating every team 6-0, he is only one player. Secondly whenever he is playing he gets marked like a mofo, so drogba or kalou find more space therefore allowing them to score. Premiership soccer is not a place for 30 year old strikers because you have less than 5 seconds with the ball. What i dont get is why the F*ck would you marry a f*cking g*dd*mn porn star. She models nude, hehehe now we know what sheva did on his lonely nights in milan

. The reason he left was more money, he'll retire in a few years so why not make some extra cash.
that's the part I agree with 100%!!!
but I'm also on the other hand 100% sure, that sheva would have been like sheva if he would have stayed at milan
Bluesummers
Jan 19 2007, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (mchanna @ Jan 18 2007, 05:19 PM)
that's the part I agree with 100%!!!
but I'm also on the other hand 100% sure, that sheva would have been like sheva if he would have stayed at milan

yes finally! someone quotes what i say!

i'm gonna go celebrate!!!
han2503
Jan 19 2007, 11:52 AM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jan 18 2007, 11:27 PM)
yes finally! someone quotes what i say!

i'm gonna go celebrate!!!
But on another note, I don't think Sheva was finished. I'm pretty sure he would have still been good for us, sure he had been in decline for these past few years, but he was still what drove us on and our current form just shows how much we miss him.
Would I take him back? I don't think I could ever look at him the same way, Just a couple of months ago I could have never imagined Sheva wearing another shirt other then the red and blakc, but now I just can't imagine him in it.
Sheva made his mistake, now he has to live with it.
About Chelsea not going for Torres, well we all knew who wanted Sheva and that was Roman Abramovic and not Mourinho.
whoarethepatriots
Jan 19 2007, 06:37 PM
Mourinho has said Torres is too slow
Too Slow!?!
He is faster than Villa, who mourinho rates better
milanistar
Jan 19 2007, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jan 19 2007, 05:37 PM)
Mourinho has said Torres is too slow
Too Slow!?!He is faster than Villa, who mourinho rates better
Yes but Villa scores 3 times more
han2503
Jan 19 2007, 07:08 PM
Villa is more consistant, where as Torres is more skillfull
Rossoneri7
Jan 19 2007, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:08 PM)
Villa is more consistant, where as Torres is more skillfull
Villa plays for one of the strongest teams in la liga, whereas Torres, holds the whole weight of keeping Athletic Madrid up in la liga
I think Torres handles the pressure better than Villa.
But that is my opinion
han2503
Jan 19 2007, 09:35 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 07:59 PM)
Villa plays for one of the strongest teams in la liga, whereas Torres, holds the whole weight of keeping Athletic Madrid up in la liga
I think Torres handles the pressure better than Villa.
But that is my opinion
Sort of like a certain Gilardino at Parma...?
Rossoneri7
Jan 19 2007, 10:03 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2007, 11:35 PM)
Sort of like a certain Gilardino at Parma...?


Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened next
Torres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.
I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A
milanistar
Jan 19 2007, 10:13 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:03 PM)

Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened next
Torres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.
I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A

I think han meant he was as important as Gila's Parma who kept them in Serie A almost by him self.
han2503
Jan 19 2007, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:03 PM)

Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened next
Torres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.
I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A

If Gila wasn't at Parma in his last season they would have gone down.
But I get what you mean. Different types of players, but still both are/where important to their respective teams
Rossoneri7
Jan 19 2007, 10:36 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 20 2007, 12:15 AM)
If Gila wasn't at Parma in his last season they would have gone down.
But I get what you mean. Different types of players, but still both are/where important to their respective teams
Yes they both are/were important for their respective teams
But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..
In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs
milanistar
Jan 19 2007, 10:38 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:36 PM)
Yes they both are/were important for their respective teams
But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..
In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs

Not sure they also have Aguero
Rossoneri7
Jan 19 2007, 10:46 PM
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 12:38 AM)
Not sure they also have Aguero

Yeah .. still Torres holds his own weight .. We still had Kaka and look what happened to us
milanistar
Jan 19 2007, 10:49 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:46 PM)
Yeah .. still Torres holds his own weight .. We still had Kaka and look what happened to us

Since when Kaka is a striker
Rossoneri7
Jan 19 2007, 10:52 PM
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 12:49 AM)
Since when Kaka is a striker

Since he became our highest goalscorer in the CL and league .. When the team was so out of form
han2503
Jan 19 2007, 10:57 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:36 PM)
Yes they both are/were important for their respective teams
But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..
In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs

Agreed on that.
milanistar
Jan 19 2007, 11:05 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:52 PM)
Since he became our highest goalscorer in the CL and league .. When the team was so out of form
Come on, you know what I mean!
Aguero is the same striker type as Torres, so if Torres goes Altetico will still have a great striker, whereas since Oli is not scoring we don't have sheva's replacement!
Rossoneri7
Jan 19 2007, 11:13 PM
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 01:05 AM)
Come on, you know what I mean!
Aguero is the same striker type as Torres, so if Torres goes Altetico will still have a great striker, whereas since Oli is not scoring we don't have sheva's replacement!
Yeah but Aguero isn't exactly playing at Chelsea or Milan; where there is a strong squad available to support the attack.
I get what u mean, believe me I do ..
If Torres moves, Aguero wouldn't be the replacment for Torres as he has different charectoristics, he isn't a leader as Torres/Sheva are .. He is good, actually very talented, but just like Villa .. Maybe in time he'll turn into someone the club could lean on, but now .. I think it's too early

Oliviera isn't Shevchenko's replacment .. He is a stand in. Sure the team depends on him, cuz he is filling in for Sheva, but he isn't exactly Sheva.
milanistar
Jan 19 2007, 11:33 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:13 PM)
Yeah but Aguero isn't exactly playing at Chelsea or Milan; where there is a strong squad available to support the attack.
I get what u mean, believe me I do ..
If Torres moves, Aguero wouldn't be the replacment for Torres as he has different charectoristics, he isn't a leader as Torres/Sheva are .. He is good, actually very talented, but just like Villa .. Maybe in time he'll turn into someone the club could lean on, but now .. I think it's too early

Oliviera isn't Shevchenko's replacment .. He is a stand in. Sure the team depends on him, cuz he is filling in for Sheva, but he isn't exactly Sheva.
Ok, I get your point

And about Oli, if he managed to score and be the same he used to in spain, I'm sure every one will see him as Sheva's replacement!
Rossoneri7
Jan 19 2007, 11:45 PM
QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 01:33 AM)
Ok, I get your point

And about Oli, if he managed to score and be the same he used to in spain, I'm sure every one will see him as Sheva's replacement!
About that ..
I heard a lot of ppl saying good things about him in la liga, though I havnt seen anything from him when he used to play at Betis ..
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