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post Jan 19 2007, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 07:59 PM)
Villa plays for one of the strongest teams in la liga, whereas Torres, holds the whole weight of keeping Athletic Madrid up in la liga (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I think Torres handles the pressure better than Villa.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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Sort of like a certain Gilardino at Parma...? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2007, 11:35 PM)


(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened next

Torres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.

I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:03 PM)
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened next

Torres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.

I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I think han meant he was as important as Gila's Parma who kept them in Serie A almost by him self.
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:03 PM)
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened next

Torres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.

I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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If Gila wasn't at Parma in his last season they would have gone down.

But I get what you mean. Different types of players, but still both are/where important to their respective teams

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post Jan 19 2007, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 20 2007, 12:15 AM)
If Gila wasn't at Parma in his last season they would have gone down.

But I get what you mean. Different types of players, but still both are/where important to their respective teams
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Yes they both are/were important for their respective teams (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..

In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:36 PM)
Yes they both are/were important for their respective teams (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..

In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Not sure they also have Aguero (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 12:38 AM)


Yeah .. still Torres holds his own weight .. We still had Kaka and look what happened to us (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:46 PM)
Yeah .. still Torres holds his own weight .. We still had Kaka and look what happened to us (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Since when Kaka is a striker (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 12:49 AM)

Since he became our highest goalscorer in the CL and league .. When the team was so out of form
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post Jan 19 2007, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:36 PM)
Yes they both are/were important for their respective teams (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..

In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Agreed on that.
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post Jan 19 2007, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:52 PM)
Since he became our highest goalscorer in the CL and league .. When the team was so out of form
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Come on, you know what I mean!

Aguero is the same striker type as Torres, so if Torres goes Altetico will still have a great striker, whereas since Oli is not scoring we don't have sheva's replacement!
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QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 01:05 AM)
Come on, you know what I mean!

Aguero is the same striker type as Torres, so if Torres goes Altetico will still have a great striker, whereas since Oli is not scoring we don't have sheva's replacement!
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Yeah but Aguero isn't exactly playing at Chelsea or Milan; where there is a strong squad available to support the attack.

I get what u mean, believe me I do ..

If Torres moves, Aguero wouldn't be the replacment for Torres as he has different charectoristics, he isn't a leader as Torres/Sheva are .. He is good, actually very talented, but just like Villa .. Maybe in time he'll turn into someone the club could lean on, but now .. I think it's too early (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Oliviera isn't Shevchenko's replacment .. He is a stand in. Sure the team depends on him, cuz he is filling in for Sheva, but he isn't exactly Sheva.
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post Jan 19 2007, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jan 19 2007, 10:13 PM)
Yeah but Aguero isn't exactly playing at Chelsea or Milan; where there is a strong squad available to support the attack.

I get what u mean, believe me I do ..

If Torres moves, Aguero wouldn't be the replacment for Torres as he has different charectoristics, he isn't a leader as Torres/Sheva are .. He is good, actually very talented, but just like Villa .. Maybe in time he'll turn into someone the club could lean on, but now .. I think it's too early (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Oliviera isn't Shevchenko's replacment .. He is a stand in. Sure the team depends on him, cuz he is filling in for Sheva, but he isn't exactly Sheva.
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Ok, I get your point (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

And about Oli, if he managed to score and be the same he used to in spain, I'm sure every one will see him as Sheva's replacement!
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QUOTE (milanistar @ Jan 20 2007, 01:33 AM)
Ok, I get your point (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

And about Oli, if he managed to score and be the same he used to in spain, I'm sure every one will see him as Sheva's replacement!
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About that ..

I heard a lot of ppl saying good things about him in la liga, though I havnt seen anything from him when he used to play at Betis ..
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