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acid911
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Aug 25 2008, 10:47 AM) *
All jokes aside though, I am glad he's back I don't think he will be 'Sheva' like we knew him before but I do honestly believe he will come out of his shell once he's playing for us and we will see one of the greatest attackers in world football shine again.

We will. king.gif Indeed.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 25 2008, 05:27 AM) *
Really? huh.gif I rather like rain. And London. Expensive yes, but I'd happily go dancing in the rain in London, just like that Ricky Martin guy and his song.


I'd hate it. I got a tan from living here in Southern California... and I like the weather... it's similar to some parts of Italy and Spain...
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 06:52 AM) *
I'd hate it. I got a tan from living here in Southern California... and I like the weather... it's similar to some parts of Italy and Spain...

Same, and I'm from England!

So want to live abroad in the future might be going to San Diego for a bit next year, bit better than dirty old Bristol!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Aug 25 2008, 06:19 AM) *
Some of these posts are incredible, if he was useless we'd never call him a 'traitor'...

Get over yourselves and realise life isn't as black and white as you'd love it to be in the 'perfect' world. So he left so f.... what? Not everyone can be like Maldini - he's a complete legend no-one can come near him in the team for his legendary status now but he's a complete exception in football nowadays.

What is Sheva a traitor for, saying he wanted to be future Milan captain, etc. but then wanting to leave? If this is the case, then Rino is also a traitor. He said himself plenty of times he wanted to be a future Milan captain and then he wanted to go to Bayern. What's the only difference here, we let Sheva go, but didn't let Rino go. That doesn't change the fact that both players had the same attutide over their possible transfers. So if Sheva is a traitor, then surely Rino must be also. This obviously only concerns people that feel Sheva is a traitor of course, because I certainly don't think so.
Jack Sparrow
Imo...Abbiati is more of a traitor than anybody on our team now. biggrin.gif

Ronaldo could be considered a traitor coming back to us. Sheva could probably have waltzed into Roma, without taking too much of a paycut. But it was like Carletto said...if Sheva comes back, he won't come back to any other side other than Milan. I believe Wenger ripped those lines off when referring to Henry.

If these same people feel Henry is also a traitor then their opinions are consistent, and we must just agree to disagree.

He's not a traitor..he just left in an ugly manner. You can't really say, he stabbed us in the back! Maybe if he'd bought out his contract, I would have agreed. But we did get top dollar for him. Cash that went into Pato and clearing off our debts. His leaving was a blessing in disguise. Maybe it was even an elaborate plot. tongue.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 25 2008, 10:58 AM) *
He's not a traitor..he just left in an ugly manner. You can't really say, he stabbed us in the back! Maybe if he'd bought out his contract, I would have agreed. But we did get top dollar for him. Cash that went into Pato and clearing off our debts. His leaving was a blessing in disguise. Maybe it was even an elaborate plot. tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Yeah, that was the plan to steal some of Chelsea's money all along.
Jack Sparrow
Now you're starting to get it....I think you guys had something similar in mind with Barry. tongue.gif
han2503
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Sheva lands in Milan

Exactly nine years after his first arrival in Italy Andriy Shevchenko returned to his beloved Milan on a direct flight from London.

The Ukrainian striker arrived at the Linate airport early in the morning and could have crossed paths with his new teammates Ronaldinho and Alexandre Pato, who were coming in from China after the Olympics.

“We are a family and we are all really happy today,” confessed Vice-President Adriano Galliani

“It is not true that it was just Silvio Berlusconi who wanted him here. I worked on it to and I am happy that in the end we managed to bring him home.”

Shevchenko could also wear his favourite No 7 shirt but he will have to ask Pato for permission and the Brazilian wonderkid seems ready to return it to his illustrious predecessor.

“Pato said he would leave the No 7 to me? It’s nice of him, but for me even a 76, 70 or 77 would be good enough. As long as there is a number seven on the Milan shirt,” noted the Ukrainian.

The 31-year-old striker scored 173 goals for the Rossoneri but his spell at Chelsea wasn’t as successful.

“Andriy netted more than 20 goals for them which is a lot if you consider he didn’t play much,” said general director Ariedo Braida.

Meanwhile Kakà welcomed back Sheva. “I am delighted that he is back,” confessed the Brazilian.


Mook
Sheva lands in Milan

Exactly nine years after his first arrival in Italy Andriy Shevchenko returned to his beloved Milan on a direct flight from London.

The Ukrainian striker arrived at the Linate airport early in the morning and could have crossed paths with his new teammates Ronaldinho and Alexandre Pato, who were coming in from China after the Olympics.

“We are a family and we are all really happy today,” confessed Vice-President Adriano Galliani

“It is not true that it was just Silvio Berlusconi who wanted him here. I worked on it to and I am happy that in the end we managed to bring him home.”

Shevchenko could also wear his favourite No 7 shirt but he will have to ask Pato for permission and the Brazilian wonderkid seems ready to return it to his illustrious predecessor.

“Pato said he would leave the No 7 to me? It’s nice of him, but for me even a 76, 70 or 77 would be good enough. As long as there is a number seven on the Milan shirt,” noted the Ukrainian.

The 31-year-old striker scored 173 goals for the Rossoneri but his spell at Chelsea wasn’t as successful.

“Andriy netted more than 20 goals for them which is a lot if you consider he didn’t play much,” said general director Ariedo Braida.

Meanwhile Kakà welcomed back Sheva. “I am delighted that he is back,” confessed the Brazilian.

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Mook
Haha beat me to the punch Han. cool.gif
han2503
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Calcio Debate: Sheva's Return – Good Or Bad Idea?

On Saturday Andriy Shevchenko completed his return to Milan, following a miserable two years at Chelsea. Carlo Garganese asks why he was such a terrible flop in England, and whether he can re-find his old form for the Rossoneri…


Andriy Shevchenko scored a stunning 173 goals during his first spell at Milan between 1999 and 2006, winning a whole host of team and individual honours, including a Scudetto, two Champions Leagues, two Capocannoniere crowns, and the prestigious Ballon d’Or in 2004. Despite turning 30 in September 2006, most would have expected Sheva to continue his brilliant form when he joined English giants Chelsea that summer.

However, the Ukrainian would prove to be an enormous and, at €45m, expensive flop in West London. He struggled for form and fitness throughout his time, scoring just nine league goals in two seasons, and was a shadow of the player who, for a while, was considered the best striker in Europe.

So why exactly did Sheva flop so badly in England?

First of all it is important to dispel the myth that Serie A players cannot succeed in the Premiership. It is true that, aside from lifestyle differences, some struggle switching from a slower to a faster style of play. However, Gianfranco Zola and Paolo Di Canio are just two examples of legendary exports. The truth is that Shevchenko was just weeks shy of his 30th birthday when he joined Chelsea, and it would be foolish to deny that his best years were behind him. Had Sheva arrived at Chelsea between the ages of 22 and 28, I am certain he would have been a huge success. Unfortunately, as was already evident in the 2006 World Cup, Sheva had lost half-a-yard of pace, and in the fast-and-frenetic Premiership, speed and sharpness is vital.

He also had problems adapting to Jose Mourinho’s defensive system. At Milan, Sheva was used to a technical style of play, with brilliant midfield playmakers such as Pirlo and Seedorf supplying him. He was also partnered by intelligent frontmen such as Inzaghi and Crespo. Milan’s slow build-up also played to his strengths, but at Chelsea it was a huge culture shock. The Blues were far more direct, they grinded out results, and there was little fantasy in midfield to provide for Sheva, as Mourinho favoured muscles over magic, and efficiency over enchantment. Mourinho’s 4-3-3 didn’t suit Shevchenko at all, even more so when it became evident that Didier Drogba was the perfect striker to play in the middle of the trident. Shevchenko is not a winger, and thus with the Ivorian around he was forever doomed.

Injury problems didn’t help and, as stated before, fitness and sharpness is so important within the blood-and-thunder of the Premiership. His frosty relationship with Mourinho was also an issue. Shevchenko was Roman Abramovich’s signing, and it is debatable whether Mourinho ever requested him. I would argue that this was eventually a reason why the Special One left Chelsea. He didn’t want Shevchenko, or Michael Ballack, and was fed up with Abramovich’s constant interference.

Finally, it must be noted that after seven years at Milan, a club that Shevchenko himself has described as “family”, it was very difficult to ever really offer his heart-and-soul to another club. Sheva would have never left Milan in the first place had it not been for his American wife who wanted to move the family to London. Sheva was unhappy off-the-pitch, he didn’t receive the same love from Chelsea that he did from Milan, and as a result his performances on the pitch suffered.

Can Shevchenko rediscover his old magic now that he is back at Milan?

Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti certainly thinks so, stating that “I think he will be useful to us, just like he was in years gone by.”

Age is certainly against the Ukrainian. He will turn 32 next month, and he has been constantly troubled by injuries over the past year or so. Many critics believe that his legs have gone, and that his physical decline will gradually continue.

However, on the other hand, Sheva is moving back to a slower league where pace, and he is still by no means slow, is not too much of an issue, while he will also be returning to a familiar environment. His confidence at Chelsea hit rock-bottom, and he will have a great chance of rediscovering it at Milan. It must also be noted that his form for Ukraine during his time at Chelsea remained superb, and he was outstanding during a 2-1 defeat to Italy a year ago, scoring his side’s goal and hitting the bar.

At Milan he will be served by some of the most creative players in world football in the form of Pirlo, Kaka, Ronaldinho and Seedorf, so if Sheva fails with this quartet supporting him, then he will have no one to blame but himself.

All in all, it is unlikely that we will see the Shevchenko of old during his second spell, but this does not mean that he cannot be a success. Only time will tell.


Totally agree with this, finally a decent article on goal
Giancarlo
Yeah I remember his form during the Euros qualifiers... it was actually generally quite good... many people forget that...
drucurl
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 11:57 AM) *
Yeah I remember his form during the Euros qualifiers... it was actually generally quite good... many people forget that...
I can't believe that you are now accepting "$hevy" after you were against it so much.....where's your integrity?
Giancarlo
QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 25 2008, 06:12 PM) *
I can't believe that you are now accepting "$hevy" after you were against it so much.....where's your integrity?


Where is yours? Or is that another attack on my personal character you want to make?

I'm accepting it because it is a done deal and I'm going to support my team. I forgave Sheva. After I was against it so much? Where was I against it so much? All I said is I'd prefer to sign someone else other than Sheva at one point, and I did not forgive him.

But he recognized the biggest mistake in his career moving to Chelsea.

Unlike some around here, I can recognize he's a human being and can make mistakes...

I'm happier we signed Sheva, instead of Quaresma (rubbish).
Tennie
Oo. Gonna disagree with you on Quaresma's value/ability there, Giancarlo. He's a gifted player. He's also messed up in the head (ego/personality/temper) that diminishes his play now and then but he's very, very good. He's also performed more consistently for the Portuguese NT than certain other Sporting-trained wingers who play for Kurt's least favourite PL team. smile.gif

As for Shevchenko...well, I support the team. Even if it's got Mickey, Goofy, and Pluto playing. No, I'm not happy at Shevchenko's method of departure or his return but he IS back and I will support him and the other players.



drucurl
It's kinda hard to believe that the guy that said:
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 23 2008, 01:58 PM) *
WHAT? QUE?

*HEAD EXPLODES*

If I could swear I'd right now. Tell me this is a joke. It's not April 1st!

If we bought him I'm gonna scream. WHYYYYYY!

I'm pissed off now. We needed a defender and this will deflect our attention from that.

AND:
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 21 2008, 01:35 PM) *
20 million for a 32 year old striker whose best is behind him? That's something the LA Galaxy would pay, not Milan.

Ronaldinho is worth 20 million. Mario Gomes is worth 20 million. Sheva is worth no more than 6-7 million.

I think indeed our management is smarter than that. I say spend money on a defender right now.
has gone all kumbaya on us but whatever huh.gif
Giancarlo
QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 25 2008, 08:03 PM) *
It's kinda hard to believe that the guy that said:
AND:
has gone all kumbaya on us but whatever huh.gif


That was more indication of utter shock because I thought the deal was off and gone. When management says the deal is dead it usually is. Ancelotti also said the deal was off... so it came as a bit of shock.

You don't even know what you're talking about with regards to what I said.

The other thing is we didn't spend 20 million on Sheva.

I have character (unlike what you have displayed in the last posts) to show that I will accept Sheva back in the team because the deal is concluded. I will also support my team no matter what. Why are you still supporting Milan afterall?
drucurl
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 03:14 PM) *
That was more indication of utter shock because I thought the deal was off and gone. When management says the deal is dead it usually is. Ancelotti also said the deal was off... so it came as a bit of shock.

You don't even know what you're talking about with regards to what I said.

The other thing is we didn't spend 20 million on Sheva.

I have character (unlike what you have displayed in the last posts) to show that I will accept Sheva back in the team because the deal is concluded. I will also support my team no matter what. Why are you still supporting Milan afterall?
you think you have character because the two players that you have most vociferously opposed have signed huh.gif Seems to me that you are willing to accpet anything management throws at you.....I'll spare you the embarrassment of digging up your anti-Senderos posts cool.gif

Anyway Sheva is wrong for us on so many levels.....though it must be said in footballing terms he may fit in quite well....but management have wounded many fans' pride in this matter. It's almost hard to take them seriously. Being a milan fan means I'll support Sheva on the pitch but he has no place in my heart anymore. That and the fact that he seems to have lost it is still pissing me off
Giancarlo
QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 25 2008, 07:22 PM) *
you think you have character because the two players that you have most vociferously opposed have signed huh.gif Seems to me that you are willing to accpet anything management throws at you.....I'll spare you the embarrassment of digging up your anti-Senderos posts cool.gif

Anyway Sheva is wrong for us on so many levels.....though it must be said in footballing terms he may fit in quite well....but management have wounded many fans' pride in this matter. It's almost hard to take them seriously. Being a milan fan means I'll support Sheva on the pitch but he has no place in my heart anymore. That and the fact that he seems to have lost it is still pissing me off


I didn't vociferously oppose anyone. I was shocked. I'm still against signing Senderos and hope that it falls apart like the Suazo deal. I haven't seen anything official. I don't think Senderos is crap, but I think Milan can do far better than that. I've been an advocate of signing Radoslav Kovac. Why not bring up any of those? Or does that not help your lack of character and your vendetta against me?

Sheva is not wrong. How is it hard to take them seriously? Because you say so? Right. Your view is not representative of other Milan fans. Certainly not the Milan fans on here, and not the ones in Milan itself. Secondly, I've seen your posts on other forums and how nasty you get towards those who wanted to see Sheva back. Kurt is one that wanted Sheva back from day one I believe. Why don't you go attack him?

I supported signing a different striker, but I'm not going to bash and slam Sheva for an awful mistake he made several years ago. If he's part of Milan, he's part of Milan. He'll get back his form at Milan no doubt... because he never fit in Chelsea's formation...

So no, I'm sorry I don't see how he is wrong.

He certainly wasn't my choice, but I'm not going to harp on about it. I'm going to support my ***KING TEAM.
Giancarlo
One other thing... learn to be humble about things as I have... being angry about everything will accomplish nothing. Hope for the best of the teammates and rejoice in the EXCELLENT transfer season we have had.
han2503
Ok guys lets cool it

Sheva is a Milan player, and we should all support him once he pulls on that shirt again. And some here might have had a change of heart regarding Sheva, some are still opposed to it, and some were always behind it. No matter what your feelings on the situation are, the fact is that Sheva is in fact a Milan player, and we should support him.

Now for whatever reasons he left in the past, that's not really our business, he made a mistake, everyone makes mistakes, I'm sure everyone on this forum has done his or her own set of mistakes also.
Tennie
Nicely stated.

+1 Cookie to han.
drucurl
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 03:29 PM) *
I didn't vociferously oppose anyone. I was shocked. I'm still against signing Senderos and hope that it falls apart like the Suazo deal. I haven't seen anything official. I don't think Senderos is crap, but I think Milan can do far better than that. I've been an advocate of signing Radoslav Kovac. Why not bring up any of those? Or does that not help your lack of character and your vendetta against me?

Sheva is not wrong. How is it hard to take them seriously? Because you say so? Right. Your view is not representative of other Milan fans. Certainly not the Milan fans on here, and not the ones in Milan itself. Secondly, I've seen your posts on other forums and how nasty you get towards those who wanted to see Sheva back. Kurt is one that wanted Sheva back from day one I believe. Why don't you go attack him?

I supported signing a different striker, but I'm not going to bash and slam Sheva for an awful mistake he made several years ago. If he's part of Milan, he's part of Milan. He'll get back his form at Milan no doubt... because he never fit in Chelsea's formation...

So no, I'm sorry I don't see how he is wrong.

He certainly wasn't my choice, but I'm not going to harp on about it. I'm going to support my ***KING TEAM.
I have been reading your comments pre-sheva.....now he's officially here you did a 180....but I guess there is some merit in accepting things you can't change....my point is that you now sound like you were supporting it from the start. Yes I admit that my comments were very much over the top. and I also apologised for them...but really how should I feel when a side that is supposed to be rejuvenated gets back a player that's over 30, seems to have lost his pace and is woefully out of form?? And I'm not even touching the loyalty issue

QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 03:32 PM) *
One other thing... learn to be humble about things as I have... being angry about everything will accomplish nothing. Hope for the best of the teammates and rejoice in the EXCELLENT transfer season we have had.
I agree. respect smile.gif
CrazyMilanFan
when will be the number be announced any idea????
Giancarlo
QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 25 2008, 08:42 PM) *
I have been reading your comments pre-sheva.....now he's officially here you did a 180....but I guess there is some merit in accepting things you can't change....my point is that you now sound like you were supporting it from the start. Yes I admit that my comments were very much over the top. and I also apologised for them...but really how should I feel when a side that is supposed to be rejuvenated gets back a player that's over 30, seems to have lost his pace and is woefully out of form?? And I'm not even touching the loyalty issue


I wasn't viciously opposed to signing him.

What I said was I wanted Milan to focus on signing a defender (Kovac), instead of getting a striker. It appears that Milan did the other way around and signing a striker, then a defender (Senderos). My opinion on Senderos is not relevant. I think he'll be fine playing in lesser important games where certain defenders of ours (Kaladze) lose concentration.

I did a 180 because I eventually did accept Shevchenko's apology to Milan. I'm not one to immediately accept someone after they stab me in the back but I felt he was genuine.

I didn't support this from a start. It's not my fault you refuse to read half of what I post, and if you have a vendetta against me. End it. I'm not here to fight with anyone anymore. If you want to make issues with someone who did support it from day one, as I said Kurt was the one who supported it.

Sheva will regain his form at Milan. Jaap Stam was over 30 when he joined us wasn't he? He was lousy right?

Zambrotta got his spark back and he's 31... that was a signing I always supported. Why aren't you attacking me on that one? Zambrotta was sometimes lousy, if most of the time average with Barcelona.

These older players have their uses, especially when we signed a whole bunch of younger players under the age of 28. We brought in what? 8 players? 6 of these were under 28.
han2503
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 25 2008, 07:41 PM) *
Nicely stated.

+1 Cookie to han.

Ahh thanks
drucurl
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 03:47 PM) *
I wasn't viciously opposed to signing him.

What I said was I wanted Milan to focus on signing a defender (Kovac), instead of getting a striker. It appears that Milan did the other way around and signing a striker, then a defender (Senderos). My opinion on Senderos is not relevant. I think he'll be fine playing in lesser important games where certain defenders of ours (Kaladze) lose concentration.

I did a 180 because I eventually did accept Shevchenko's apology to Milan. I'm not one to immediately accept someone after they stab me in the back but I felt he was genuine.

I didn't support this from a start. It's not my fault you refuse to read half of what I post, and if you have a vendetta against me. End it. I'm not here to fight with anyone anymore. If you want to make issues with someone who did support it from day one, as I said Kurt was the one who supported it.

Sheva will regain his form at Milan. Jaap Stam was over 30 when he joined us wasn't he? He was lousy right?

Zambrotta got his spark back and he's 31... that was a signing I always supported. Why aren't you attacking me on that one? Zambrotta was sometimes lousy, if most of the time average with Barcelona.

These older players have their uses, especially when we signed a whole bunch of younger players under the age of 28. We brought in what? 8 players? 6 of these were under 28.
I'm not here to fight with anyone either. I simply got annoyed at people settling for mediocrity. I KNOW you wanted Eto'o as much as I did. Now that we've gotten $heva all I hear is support of the signing...as if it was done soely in the interests of AC Milan......aaaah well it's just my opinion that we've gone for cheap and mediocre -to -good rather than excellent. the sad thing is that excellent was within our reach.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 25 2008, 08:59 PM) *
I'm not here to fight with anyone either. I simply got annoyed at people settling for mediocrity. I KNOW you wanted Eto'o as much as I did. Now that we've gotten $heva all I hear is support of the signing...as if it was done soely in the interests of AC Milan......aaaah well it's just my opinion that we've gone for cheap and mediocre -to -good rather than excellent. the sad thing is that excellent was within our reach.


I don't Sheva is mediocre, and I think our signing season has been absolutely excellent. Superb. Stunning. Simply brilliant considering all the quality we've signed, as well as youth players (the two from Uruguay). No one is settling for mediocrity. But I'm not unrealistic. I have realistic goals. I wanted Eto'o for a while, but I knew that Barcelona was not going to part with him... AT ALL.

I'm more happy we settled for the players we did, plenty of top name signings like Zambrotta and Ronaldinho, some youth talent like Flamini, Viudez and Cardacio..

Sheva will regain his form and score tons of goals for us I'm sure. And I'm even sure he'll meet the goal scoring total of our top scorer, Gunnar Nordahl.

I think our signing season has been full of EXCELLENT signings.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 02:06 PM) *
I don't Sheva is mediocre, and I think our signing season has been absolutely excellent. Superb. Stunning. Simply brilliant considering all the quality we've signed, as well as youth players (the two from Uruguay). No one is settling for mediocrity. But I'm not unrealistic. I have realistic goals. I wanted Eto'o for a while, but I knew that Barcelona was not going to part with him... AT ALL.

I'm more happy we settled for the players we did, plenty of top name signings like Zambrotta and Ronaldinho, some youth talent like Flamini, Viudez and Cardacio..

Sheva will regain his form and score tons of goals for us I'm sure. And I'm even sure he'll meet the goal scoring total of our top scorer, Gunnar Nordahl.

I think our signing season has been full of EXCELLENT signings.


lol no barca was gonna part with him but silvio wouldn't part with 30m
gal_kenny
Sheva Hopes For More Goals Against Inter
Andriy Shevchenko gave his first interview as a 'new' Milan player.
After officially sealing his move back to Milan on Saturday, today Andriy Shevchenko made his arrival at Milanello, and it was an emotional day for him and all the players he had gotten to know intimately during his first stint at the club.

He later gave an interview to Milan Channel in which he said he hopes to score more goals against Inter and to win the Uefa Cup in Istanbul, where the Rossoneri famously lost the Champions League to Liverpool in a legendary final.

"Now I'm back home, I am not looking backward anymore but forward," he said. "In these two years I always felt like they were waiting for me here. I will have the opportunity to make amends and score more goals.

"I would give anything to score immediately. I feel like starting again and working hard. I hope I don't suffer the same injuries as I did the last few years, but here I have everything I need to do well and it only depends on me."

He also spared a thought for his favorite 'victims' Inter: "I always felt good when there was the derby, I hope that tradition continues.

"I really hope we can win the Uefa Cup in Istanbul, where we lost against Liverpool," Sheva concluded
misha
QUOTE
Sheva Hopes For More Goals Against Inter

Andriy Shevchenko gave his first interview as a 'new' Milan player.

After officially sealing his move back to Milan on Saturday, today Andriy Shevchenko made his arrival at Milanello, and it was an emotional day for him and all the players he had gotten to know intimately during his first stint at the club.

He later gave an interview to Milan Channel in which he said he hopes to score more goals against Inter and to win the Uefa Cup in Istanbul, where the Rossoneri famously lost the Champions League to Liverpool in a legendary final.

"Now I'm back home, I am not looking backward anymore but forward," he said. "In these two years I always felt like they were waiting for me here. I will have the opportunity to make amends and score more goals.

"I would give anything to score immediately. I feel like starting again and working hard. I hope I don't suffer the same injuries as I did the last few years, but here I have everything I need to do well and it only depends on me."

He also spared a thought for his favorite 'victims' Inter: "I always felt good when there was the derby, I hope that tradition continues.

"I really hope we can win the Uefa Cup in Istanbul, where we lost against Liverpool" Sheva concluded

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Giancarlo
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2008, 12:12 AM) *
lol no barca was gonna part with him but silvio wouldn't part with 30m


Oh he didn't? Tell me how much was Ronaldinho? He was 21.5 million I believe... and Zambrotta was roughly 9 million I believe...

So he didn't part with 30 million huh? No... Barcelona didn't want Eto'o to go.
Tennie
Or maybe Berlusconi wanted Ronaldinho more than he wanted Eto'o.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 26 2008, 01:36 AM) *
Or maybe Berlusconi wanted Ronaldinho more than he wanted Eto'o.


Exactly... and I think I'm more happy we have Ronaldinho, rather than Eto'o...
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 06:31 PM) *
Oh he didn't? Tell me how much was Ronaldinho? He was 21.5 million I believe... and Zambrotta was roughly 9 million I believe...

So he didn't part with 30 million huh? No... Barcelona didn't want Eto'o to go.


LOL! thats the funniest analogy i've ever heard. Buddy he didnt' want to part with 30 million for eto alone. Besides eto would cost us 30-40 mil range and silvio wouldn't pay it for one player.

and also keep in mind that ronaldinho was the most expensive player of this campaign which really shows you our financial position wink.gif while barca paid over 30 for alves which is the best RB on the planet. If you want players in their prime who are worldclass you gotta pay there is no going around it.
Tennie
Yep. And Milan has been known to splash the cash on occasion. Aug.31, 2002, when Nesta was signed for 30MM euros. (I remember the day because it was the last day of the transfer window and the cugini had only just announced the signing of Fabio Cannavaro a couple of days previous). Or when Rui Costa was signed the year before that for (I think) 35MM. It may not happen too often with Milan but it does happen on occasion.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2008, 02:52 AM) *
LOL! thats the funniest analogy i've ever heard. Buddy he didnt' want to part with 30 million for eto alone. Besides eto would cost us 30-40 mil range and silvio wouldn't pay it for one player.

and also keep in mind that ronaldinho was the most expensive player of this campaign which really shows you our financial position wink.gif while barca paid over 30 for alves which is the best RB on the planet. If you want players in their prime who are worldclass you gotta pay there is no going around it.


That's because we have a bottom line and we spend wisely, not stupidly. Besides that we got a huge amount of top quality signings for less money. That's the best thing for me about this signing campaign. Barcelona did NOT want to part with Eto'o because he's a key player. That would be like us selling Kaka.

Come on... Alves was not worth 30 million. Best right back? Hardly. Not even close. He's not world class. He's not even the best right back in the world. Barca was ripped off big time. Just like Chelsea will be with Robinho.
Jack Sparrow
Alves...is pretty much, the best offensive RB in the game right now. Defensively, I suppose there are others who are better. But it depends on what kind of input you want from your fullback in your gameplay. Whether you want him to be bombing down and overlapping, or staying back and provide cover for the winger.

In Barca's case, the game plan is probably to have Alves and Messi overlap, and overrun, the opposition's left flank. Double edged sword, especially if your opposing team has got a muscled hardman, and players who can play on the counter, by cutting in from the flank.

Hmmm...Rino, Flamini, Pirlo, Kaka, Pato, Ronaldinho. Holy cr@p...that sounds like us...biggrin.gif At least that sounds like us, when we urm play like 'us'.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 26 2008, 04:05 AM) *
Alves...is pretty much, the best offensive RB in the game right now. Defensively, I suppose there are others who are better. But it depends on what kind of input you want from your fullback in your gameplay. Whether you want him to be bombing down and overlapping, or staying back and provide cover for the winger.

In Barca's case, the game plan is probably to have Alves and Messi overlap, and overrun, the opposition's left flank. Double edged sword, especially if your opposing team has got a muscled hardman, and players who can play on the counter, by cutting in from the flank.

Hmmm...Rino, Flamini, Pirlo, Kaka, Pato, Ronaldinho. Holy cr@p...that sounds like us...biggrin.gif At least that sounds like us, when we urm play like 'us'.


The problem with Alves it still fails to address Barcelona's biggest problem. Defense. If anyone remembers the Barcelona-Real Betis game I think it was... even though Barcelona scored twice, Real Betis came in later and scored three.

Alves is average at best in my eyes. He's not even the best offensively. Actually I think Zambrotta and Lahm are best offensive fullback players in the world (though Lahm is a bit iffy defensively).
drucurl
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 09:31 PM) *
Exactly... and I think I'm more happy we have Ronaldinho, rather than Eto'o...
See this is what I don't get.....YOU wanted Eto'o YOU said that it's MORE important having a super finisher like Eto'o or Adebayor/Drogba....so did I so did CARLO ANCELOTTI....now that we got Ronaldinho how did that suddenly change??
Giancarlo
QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 26 2008, 04:30 AM) *
See this is what I don't get.....YOU wanted Eto'o YOU said that it's MORE important having a super finisher like Eto'o or Adebayor/Drogba....so did I so did CARLO ANCELOTTI....now that we got Ronaldinho how did that suddenly change??


Stop misstating what I think and stop misstating what Ancelotti said. Ronaldinho was targeted by Milan and I think Ancelotti is happy to have him. We had Kaka who is suffering from excessive tackling and has knee problems. We needed to get an attacking midfielder as soon as possible to help reduce pressure.

Don't speak for me anymore. Don't try to put words in my damn mouth.
jefri91
Where is the love? sad.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 09:40 PM) *
That's because we have a bottom line and we spend wisely, not stupidly. Besides that we got a huge amount of top quality signings for less money. That's the best thing for me about this signing campaign. Barcelona did NOT want to part with Eto'o because he's a key player. That would be like us selling Kaka.

Come on... Alves was not worth 30 million. Best right back? Hardly. Not even close. He's not world class. He's not even the best right back in the world. Barca was ripped off big time. Just like Chelsea will be with Robinho.



LOL okay here we go.


First of all if you want me to i can bring up all the articles where LAPORTA HAD STATED THAT ETO WAS NOT IN THE FUTURE PLANS OF BARCA. theres about 20 of them. Secondly they didnt' part with him because his price was 30+ and no one even made a realistic offer for him. I mean we signed ronnie for what 20 mil? But thats us and when were signing 10 players thats what we can afford, were not chelsea or madrid. thirdly alves is by far the best RB in the world i would dare you to list a better alternative. Look his statistics up he has had the most assists and goals for any rb in the game last year and furthermore was key member to sevilla. 30 million for him was rightly so because barca's right side now will be unstoppable. Robinho is a different issue and 45 million is too much but they almost paid that for sheva at 30 when he was half the player robinho is.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2008, 05:43 AM) *
First of all if you want me to i can bring up all the articles where LAPORTA HAD STATED THAT ETO WAS NOT IN THE FUTURE PLANS OF BARCA. theres about 20 of them. Secondly they didnt' part with him because his price was 30+ and no one even made a realistic offer for him. I mean we signed ronnie for what 20 mil? But thats us and when were signing 10 players thats what we can afford, were not chelsea or madrid. thirdly alves is by far the best RB in the world i would dare you to list a better alternative. Look his statistics up he has had the most assists and goals for any rb in the game last year and furthermore was key member to sevilla. 30 million for him was rightly so because barca's right side now will be unstoppable. Robinho is a different issue and 45 million is too much but they almost paid that for sheva at 30 when he was half the player robinho is.


Yes here we go!

There are articles that said that but if Eto'o wasn't part of the plans, he would be in Chelsea or Arsenal by now. I'm sure a team in England could afford him even if he was 30 million. We signed many great players for less. We are not chelsea or madrid where we throw away money irresponsibly.

Alves is rubbish. He can't defend, and there are better players than him. And there is a difference between Italian and Spanish football. Italian football is the most defensive in the world. 30 million was a rip off in my eyes and always will be for an overrated player like Alves.
Jack Sparrow
He's the best offensive RB in the world...I still think Messi and Alves on the right, is a tactical flaw that might backfire against a clever coach and a sharp team.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 11:47 PM) *
Yes here we go!

There are articles that said that but if Eto'o wasn't part of the plans, he would be in Chelsea or Arsenal by now. I'm sure a team in England could afford him even if he was 30 million. We signed many great players for less. We are not chelsea or madrid where we throw away money irresponsibly.

Alves is rubbish. He can't defend, and there are better players than him. And there is a difference between Italian and Spanish football. Italian football is the most defensive in the world. 30 million was a rip off in my eyes and always will be for an overrated player like Alves.


no the fact is that they could not afford him because his wage bills are near ronaldinhos and thats why no one signed him. alves rubbish hahahahahhahah laugh.gif laugh.gif I"m gonna stop now obviously you have no clue and are biased on the issue. Please do yourself a favor and watch 5 barca games and you will eat your words and wish that zambrotta was half that.
Giancarlo
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 26 2008, 05:48 AM) *
He's the best offensive RB in the world...


That's opinion.

I don't share that view.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 25 2008, 11:48 PM) *
He's the best offensive RB in the world...I still think Messi and Alves on the right, is a tactical flaw that might backfire against a clever coach and a sharp team.


not at all tahts why yaya toure is sitting there for cover. without a defensive mid it would be as you say 'flawed'
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Giancarlo @ Aug 25 2008, 11:50 PM) *
That's opinion.

I don't share that view.


do you share facts?
Giancarlo
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Aug 26 2008, 05:49 AM) *
no the fact is that they could not afford him because his wage bills are near ronaldinhos and thats why no one signed him. alves rubbish hahahahahhahah laugh.gif laugh.gif I"m gonna stop now obviously you have no clue and are biased on the issue. Please do yourself a favor and watch 5 barca games and you will eat your words and wish that zambrotta was half that.


I posted what I think. If you dont' want to accept that's fine. It'll be best to agree to disagree. He like anyone else can take wage cuts. And I'm sure an Premier League team could afford him.

I have no clue and am biased? Prove it. Prove I have no clue and am biased.

Alves is vastly overrated. Eat my words? And wish Zambrotta was half that? Zambrotta is a world class player and puts Alves in the ****ing dust.

Take your personal attacks out of here.
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