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acid911
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Tennie
A.C. MILAN COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
18/11/2008
MILANO - In merito ad alcune notizie apparse sulla stampa estera, il Milan smentisce nella maniera più categorica di aver mai offerto il calciatore Andriy Shevchenko al Real Madrid e ne conferma l'assoluta incedibilità.

[AC MILAN OFFICIAL STATEMENT
In relation to various notices appearing in the foreign press, Milan denies in the most categorical manner that it ever offered the footballer Andriy Shevchenko to Real Madrid and confirms that the player is unsellable.]

Sounds like there were a lot of Sheva-to-Madrid rumors rolling around somewhere.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 18 2008, 05:00 AM) *
A.C. MILAN COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
18/11/2008
MILANO - In merito ad alcune notizie apparse sulla stampa estera, il Milan smentisce nella maniera più categorica di aver mai offerto il calciatore Andriy Shevchenko al Real Madrid e ne conferma l'assoluta incedibilità.

[AC MILAN OFFICIAL STATEMENT
In relation to various notices appearing in the foreign press, Milan denies in the most categorical manner that it ever offered the footballer Andriy Shevchenko to Real Madrid and confirms that the player is unsellable.]

Sounds like there were a lot of Sheva-to-Madrid rumors rolling around somewhere.

Heck, I wouldn't've minded, seeing that we brought him back to be just about permanently glued to the bench. I think there's still a bit of a grudge between Carlo and Shev, dating back to their little public tiffs a few seasons ago.
acid911
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 19 2008, 01:30 AM) *
Heck, I wouldn't've minded, seeing that we brought him back to be just about permanently glued to the bench. I think there's still a bit of a grudge between Carlo and Shev, dating back to their little public tiffs a few seasons ago.

2005 to be brutally, exact. rolleyes.gif And 2006 too, most of it. I've been going through some old threads here at the forum archives and well yeah, it's not fun.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE
Galliani: Shevchenko Is Untouchable
Milan vice president Adriano Galliani has quashed rumors suggesting thatUkrainian striker Andrei Shevchenko will join Real Madrid...

Madrid-based daily Marca claimed that Andrei Shevchenko, who rejoined Milan from Chelsea in the summer, was close to making the switch to the Primera Division as cover for the crocked Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

However, Galliani has slammed his fist on the table and he insists there is no chance his star striker will leave in January.

"Technically the operation wouldn't be impossible as you can have two transfers in one season," the chief told Datasport.it.

"However, Shevchenko will not be leaving. He is untouchable and now he will be playing for us."

The chief also spoke about this weekend's showdown clash between bitter rivals Inter and Juventus.

"It will be an uncertain game. The ideal result for us would be a no contest where neither team picked up points."

Milan are currently a point behind Inter and two ahead of the Bianconeri. A draw between the rivals would be the ideal result for the Rossoneri


Goal.com - Sheva is Staying
MizNelson
QUOTE (Channel 4)
Sheva and Kaladze to testify?
Wednesday 19 November, 2008
Ukrainian newspapers claim that Milan stars Andriy Shevchenko and Kakha Kaladze will be questioned during investigations into the President's poisoning.

President Viktor Yushchenko claimed he was poisoned at a dinner in September 2004 and prosecutors are seeking information on businessman Tamaz Tsintsabidze, who was present at that event.

According to newspaper Kommersant, the Prosecutor's Office is seeking testimony from former Dynamo Kiev players who may have had some connection with Tsintsabidze.

Shevchenko and Kaladze are said to be lined up for an interview, while Andrey Gusin has already given his testimony.

“It is all stupid, to my mind, but I can't do anything about it,” said Gusin in Kommersant.

“They asked me to come and I did. Evidently there's no logic in the move. The Prosecutor's Office seems to have gone off the rails.”

TriniKing_CE
...Strange!!
unsure.gif Am I missing something though?
What the hell is this really about? Could someone explain plz.

What's the source of the news btw, Miz?
kurtsimonw
Sheva is untouchable. cool.gif
acid911
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Nov 20 2008, 02:41 AM) *
...Strange!!
Am I missing something though?
What the hell is this really about? Could someone explain plz.

What's the source of the news btw, Miz?

Mafia type thingy. wink.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 20 2008, 01:08 AM) *
Mafia type thingy. wink.gif

blink.gif oh ic huh.gif
MizNelson
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Nov 19 2008, 01:41 PM) *
What's the source of the news btw, Miz?

Channel 4.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Nov 20 2008, 11:57 AM) *
blink.gif oh ic huh.gif


Wiki it. The current Ukrainian President was poisoned, supposedly by the (then) ruling party before elections.Supposedly the Russian FSB as well as the country's 'oligarchs' had a hand in it. It left the handsome, charismatic person, scarred for life. So now they're investigating it.

Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 20 2008, 01:34 AM) *
Sheva is untouchable. cool.gif


Very. even Carlo doesn't touch him anymore dry.gif
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 20 2008, 03:19 AM) *
Channel 4.

Thanx smile.gif
And just so you know, I wasn't questioning you're reliability just the source's own. wink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 18 2008, 09:30 PM) *
Heck, I wouldn't've minded, seeing that we brought him back to be just about permanently glued to the bench. I think there's still a bit of a grudge between Carlo and Shev, dating back to their little public tiffs a few seasons ago.

Agreed.

He should really get over it, whatever happened before should be forgotten.
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 22 2008, 11:50 AM) *
He should really get over it, whatever happened before should be forgotten.

Unfortunately, that's easier said than done. sad.gif More so if you've got two big egos as in Carlo and Sheva. Two big personalities, they won't get over it that easy.
Fillipo Simone
Ego's?? You think Carlo has a big ego? I didn't notice that...I'm not sure. From my viewpoint Capello, Mourinho, Trap and probably all the big coaches have more ego then Carlo, or are at least showing more ego them him.
acid911
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 23 2008, 12:50 AM) *
Ego's?? You think Carlo has a big ego? I didn't notice that...I'm not sure. From my viewpoint Capello, Mourinho, Trap and probably all the big coaches have more ego then Carlo, or are at least showing more ego them him.

Who talked about showing ego? biggrin.gif I know you love the man, Fillipo, and I respect that but sometimes you've got to look beyond your impression of a person to find the truth. I'd be brutally honest with you the only two persons I'd ever like to become are Paolo and Rui Costa, in that order. Seriously. All others come behind. As far as Carlo is concerned, sure you can still love him with all his faults - it only makes him more human.

I'll dig up some Carlo gems from the 2005-2006 era and you'll see ego. Oh, you'll see it alright.
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 22 2008, 08:17 AM) *
Unfortunately, that's easier said than done. sad.gif More so if you've got two big egos as in Carlo and Sheva. Two big personalities, they won't get over it that easy.

I don't think it's an issue of big egos acid. I think Carlo tends to hold onto a grudge for far too long.

I know this issue has been exhausted on the board but like the Yoann case, I'm a firm believer that Carlo had some sort of personal issue with him and because of that he never let him play.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 22 2008, 08:58 PM) *
Who talked about showing ego? biggrin.gif I know you love the man, Fillipo, and I respect that but sometimes you've got to look beyond your impression of a person to find the truth. I'd be brutally honest with you the only two persons I'd ever like to become are Paolo and Rui Costa, in that order. Seriously. All others come behind. As far as Carlo is concerned, sure you can still love him with all his faults - it only makes him more human.

I'll dig up some Carlo gems from the 2005-2006 era and you'll see ego. Oh, you'll see it alright.

No, maybe you misunderstood or I wasn't good in my explanation. I meant, Carlo's ego is IMO not that visible or present in comparison to the other great coaches...
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 23 2008, 01:09 AM) *
I don't think it's an issue of big egos acid. I think Carlo tends to hold onto a grudge for far too long.

It's the ego in the first place that's allowed the grudge to go on for far too long. unsure.gif Not pure ego, yes, but if any of them were a down-to-earth person it shouldn't have gone this far. I still recall some news headlines from 2-3 years back, and both Carlo and Sheva coming out denying them. There just had to be something, in what capacity, the jury is still out on that one. But it wasn't anything nice, and I'm sure we're seeing a part of it continuing.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 23 2008, 01:12 AM) *
No, maybe you misunderstood or I wasn't good in my explanation. I meant, Carlo's ego is IMO not that visible or present in comparison to the other great coaches...

Which I agree with. smile.gif It's also helped by the family atmosphere at Milan, but yes, I'd find it very hard to say that Carlo let's his ego run wild. Still, he has these little cold wars with a couple of players, and plays favorites with a few. It's just the way things are.
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 22 2008, 09:31 PM) *
It's the ego in the first place that's allowed the grudge to go on for far too long. unsure.gif Not pure ego, yes, but if any of them were a down-to-earth person it shouldn't have gone this far. I still recall some news headlines from 2-3 years back, and both Carlo and Sheva coming out denying them. There just had to be something, in what capacity, the jury is still out on that one. But it wasn't anything nice, and I'm sure we're seeing a part of it continuing.

Agreed on that. And we're seeing it continuing because now Carlo can bench Sheva without creating the uproar he would have before if he dared to bench him.

I just think that someone of his experiance as a coach should know when to let the past go for the good of the team.
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 23 2008, 09:44 PM) *
Agreed on that. And we're seeing it continuing because now Carlo can bench Sheva without creating the uproar he would have before if he dared to bench him.

Ditto. innocent.gif Carlo has a good case, this time around. He can play the Ukrainian when his heart desires. And while Sheva is no saint himself, currently he can only sit and watch instead of bringing down the house. This is what happens when you return as a failure with your tails between your legs.

The only difference being this time around - as you put it, Han - is no uproar. Whatsoever.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 23 2008, 06:10 PM) *
Ditto. innocent.gif Carlo has a good case, this time around. He can play the Ukrainian when his heart desires. And while Sheva is no saint himself, currently he can only sit and watch instead of bringing down the house. This is what happens when you return as a failure with your tails between your legs.

The only difference being this time around - as you put it, Han - is no uproar. Whatsoever.

The only difference is that Sheva isn't even a shadow of the player he was back then with us in the late 90ties and early millenium-change years. Pato, Pippo, Boriello,...I see them all before Sheva now. He wanted an adventure, now he paid the price. Don't think it has to do much with Ancelotti or a coach in particular.
Mook
To be fair its hard to judge where Sheva is with his game. He's been given extremely limited opportunity over the course of the season so far. Personally the only thing that he's lost is his pace. In most the games he's played he's created both opportunities for himself and others. Even last night he got himself into a good scoring position. Not too bad considering we didn't create much and he had 10 minutes to get into the tempo of the game.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 24 2008, 01:41 AM) *
The only difference is that Sheva isn't even a shadow of the player he was back then with us in the late 90ties and early millenium-change years. Pato, Pippo, Boriello,...I see them all before Sheva now. He wanted an adventure, now he paid the price. Don't think it has to do much with Ancelotti or a coach in particular.

I wouldn't say Pippo is ahead of him like Mook said, in every game he's plaved he's created chances and played well, his pace is not what it used to be but that's to be expected. If you were to ask me who I'd want to start if it was a competition between Pippo and Sheva, Sheva imo should win hands down. He's a far better all round player that contributed trice as much to the team as Pippo does.

The reason he's not playing is like we've been discussing, whatever problems him and Carlo had before he left are still evident, the only difference now is that Carlo can leave him on the bench in every game without having half of Milan coming after him with torches

QUOTE (Mook @ Nov 24 2008, 04:50 AM) *
To be fair its hard to judge where Sheva is with his game. He's been given extremely limited opportunity over the course of the season so far. Personally the only thing that he's lost is his pace. In most the games he's played he's created both opportunities for himself and others. Even last night he got himself into a good scoring position. Not too bad considering we didn't create much and he had 10 minutes to get into the tempo of the game.

Exactly
Rossoneri7
If you guys are comparing Shevchenko to Inzaghi, its like comparing black and white.

All that is important is that they both can play in 'this' Milan, as 80% of their team mates they already know. They don't need to prove how to play inthe trident of Shevchenko-Inzaghi-Kaka'. But then again, the too front men are over 30 and while that seems like either/or is dispensable, their combined experience is yet another valuable asset in Milan's arsenal, since they both are different in their characteristics.

But between the two, I'd rather see Super Pippo in the Xtree formation, nothing personal, just think with Ronaldinho and Kaka' in support .. With players like Seedorf, Zambrotta, Janku and Pirlo hanging around too .. A player of Sheva's (or Pato) characteristics would just congest the place.
Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 24 2008, 06:15 PM) *
I wouldn't say Pippo is ahead of him like Mook said, in every game he's plaved he's created chances and played well, his pace is not what it used to be but that's to be expected. If you were to ask me who I'd want to start if it was a competition between Pippo and Sheva, Sheva imo should win hands down. He's a far better all round player that contributed trice as much to the team as Pippo does.

The reason he's not playing is like we've been discussing, whatever problems him and Carlo had before he left are still evident, the only difference now is that Carlo can leave him on the bench in every game without having half of Milan coming after him with torches


Exact!

I'm not saying Pato is a good choice for the Christmas tree [I believe he will be able to play in that position one day, but certainly not yet] but did you see the effort he put against Toro? he was constantly battling for the ball, coming back, helping the midfield, stealing the ball, starting a new attack, etc. he tried his best to help the team. the same with Sheva.

I'm not saying this because I'm not a fan of Pippo's football, but with him none of those happen. he doesn't contribute anything particular other than scoring goals... and not wonder goals that come out of nothing [like Sheva used to do]; mostly simple tap ins.
Zed.D
But I have to add this that IMO when a striker scores, he is doing his job alright [of course a striker that both sores and contributes to his team's play is better]. so as long as Pippo scores, he deserves a 'spot'.
han2503
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 25 2008, 04:19 PM) *
Exact!

I'm not saying Pato is a good choice for the Christmas tree [I believe he will be able to play in that position one day, but certainly not yet] but did you see the effort he put against Toro? he was constantly battling for the ball, coming back, helping the midfield, stealing the ball, starting a new attack, etc. he tried his best to help the team. the same with Sheva.

I'm not saying this because I'm not a fan of Pippo's football, but with him none of those happen. he doesn't contribute anything particular other than scoring goals... and not wonder goals that come out of nothing [like Sheva used to do]; mostly simple tap ins.

Agreed

And I'm not even going to expect either Sheva or Pippo to put in the effort Pato put in, because both can't keep up that type of rythem for the full 90 minutes like Pato did. But when comparing who I would prefer at the head of that tree Sheva for me wins hands down.

@ R7, sure Pippo is all good when the midfielders around him are creating chances for him to tap in but when they can't break through Pippo up there just lingering on the offside line is pretty much useless. Look at what Pato did against Toro, that is something Pippo would never be able to do but Sheva on the other hand can, but like I said with a bit less intensity because of his age.

Like we were discussing in another thread, Pippo is great at playing off another striker, but not alone up there on the xmas tree (that is unless the mids around him are all on super human form)
han2503
QUOTE
Ancelotti: Sheva to ruin Pompey's Euro expedition

Portsmouth have been warned that £30million Chelsea reject Andriy Shevchenko could be the man to ruin their big UEFA Cup night against AC Milan at Fratton Park tomorrow.

Milan's legendary head coach Carlo Ancelotti has the Ukrainian striker, 32, back on loan at the San Siro after two miserable seasons at Stamford Bridge where he scored just nine Premier League goals.

And although Shevchenko, who has still been troubled by a groin injury, has scored only once for Milan in his second spell with them and appeared for a total of only 128 minutes, Ancelotti insists: "He is still one of the best strikers in the world.

"He will start against Portsmouth and I'm hopeful he will play a great game. He has worked very hard getting fit.''

Ancelotti took a swipe at Chelsea's treatment of Shevchenko even though he conceded they paid the right market price for him

He said: "Chelsea always play with just one central striker and two wingers so Shevchenko was never going to take (Didier) Drogba's place in that system.

"But they bought a high-quality striker and I don't think he was allowed to express himself to the full. The money they paid was good value at the time.''


Ancelotti confirmed Brazilian ace Kaka, who is suspended for Sunday's Serie A clash with Genoa, will start alongside Shevchenko against Pompey and that former Arsenal pair, centre-back Philippe Senderos and Mathieu Flamini, will also be in the line-up.

But Ronaldinho will be on the substitutes' bench - from where he came on to hit an 89th-minute winner against Portugal's Sporting Braga in the UEFA Cup last month.

That was their second win, having beaten Heerenveen 3-1 in Holland and Ancelotti, who has left veteran skipper Paolo Maldini resting back in Milan, said: "We are confident we can seal qualification for the next round here.''

Pompey, having crashed 3-0 in Braga in their only previous Group E match, already face a tough fight to finish in the top three of the five-team second-round section and reach the last 32 knockout stage - especially as stars like Jermain Defoe, Lassana Diarra, Niko Kranjcar and skipper Sol Campbell are all out tomorrow night through injuries.

But Ancelotti conceded: "We know all about Portsmouth and they are a strong side at home. They will also have the crowd behind them which will be very beneficial but we have travelled everywhere and I believe we will not be intimidated.''

"The dressing rooms at Portsmouth may be small and the stadium a little old-fashioned English ground but the pitch is in good condition and when it comes to scoring goals that is what is important.''


Carlo is totally right on that bolded part
Mook
Hopefully Sheva and Kaka' can tear the Pompey defence apart. devil.gif
TriniKing_CE
biggrin.gif

My fellow Sheva fans & followers...smile.gif

...wait,
Where's Kurt?! huh.gif
Fillipo Simone
Well now you see, Carlo will field a FIT Sheva. I'm convinced this could be a turning point for Andriy and that we could see him more often in Serie A action afterwards..
acid911
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Nov 27 2008, 10:58 AM) *
Where's Kurt?!

He's jumped ship. unsure.gif Na, the real Sheva fan is Misha, who's missing in action. Been quite a while since I've seen him post. The guy even still has a Shevchenko image as a signature.

And frankly, Fillipo, this Sheva thing can go either way. I do hope what you said above turns out to be true, but it's too big of a mess for any one person to clean up. Sheva and Carlo don't particularly like each other, Sheva is over 30, lost the previous level of respect he commanded, etc. sad.gif All said and done, it will come down to Carlo whether he is willing to play him every match, or Sheva whether he can pull himself up, forget about his age, and get back (or at least try) to becoming a lethal forward.
Zed.D
QUOTE
But Ronaldinho will be on the substitutes' bench - from where he came on to hit an 89th-minute winner against Portugal's Sporting Braga in the UEFA Cup last month.


Is that a goal.com article? it was the 93rd minute!
kurtsimonw
That's the first sensible thing Carlo has said this season!
Zed.D
What a sig, acid. I LOVE IT devil.gif
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 27 2008, 06:31 PM) *
What a sig, acid. I LOVE IT

Thank you. biggrin.gif Nothing beats a Clint Eastwood in his prime!
Zed.D
QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 27 2008, 06:53 PM) *
Thank you. biggrin.gif Nothing beats a Clint Eastwood in his prime!


Pity he played in my second favorite western of all time [The Good, the Bad and the Ugly], not the first [Once Upon a Time in the West]. but he's still without a doubt the undisputed #1 western actor in the history of cinema! king.gif
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 27 2008, 09:30 PM) *
Pity he played in my second favorite western of all time [The Good, the Bad and the Ugly], not the first [Once Upon a Time in the West]. but he's still without a doubt the undisputed #1 western actor in the history of cinema!

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is my number one Western. laugh.gif And in my top 3 list of movies, any given Sunday. It has been described as European cinema's best representative of the Western genre film, and even Quentin Tarantino called it "the best-directed film of all time." In fact, I've seen the other two films in the Dollars Trilogy, and while they don't compare to the classic, they're good movies in their own rights. Clint Eastwood, in my opinion, is cinema's best anti-hero. And probably my favorite director of all time.

Both films you listed were directed by Sergio Leone. Too bad he died an untimely death. sad.gif RIP.
Zed.D
"The Good, the..." is a tad bit more entertaining and popular than "Once Upon a...". but cinematic-wise, believe me or not, no other western tops the latter. it's more artistic. and it has a beautiful woman in it too biggrin.gif

[Did you finally watch it btw?]
acid911
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 27 2008, 09:59 PM) *
[Did you finally watch it btw?]

That's the million dollar question: Been planning to. blush.gif Though I've seen trailers, and yes Claudia Cardinale is stunning in that. I also recall you posting that Youtube clip of it. I'll let you know once I get around seeing it, and we'll see which one is better.
kurtsimonw
There is a movies thread. Stop cluttering up one of, if not, THE most important threads on the forum.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 27 2008, 07:27 PM) *
There is a movies thread. Stop cluttering up one of, if not, THE most important threads on the forum.

I agree with Kurt!
Take it to the movie thread section.

...Watch out zd, or I will be forced to continue talking WWE with my buddies back in the Pato thread. tongue.gif
This space is solely for our Ukrainian Legend!
acid911
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 28 2008, 04:27 AM) *
There is a movies thread. Stop cluttering up one of, if not, THE most important threads on the forum.

I'm sure Sheva loves The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. innocent.gif We're not as off topic as we seem!
Zed.D
OK, one last off-topic post!

QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 27 2008, 08:35 PM) *
That's the million dollar question: Been planning to. blush.gif Though I've seen trailers, and yes Claudia Cardinale is stunning in that. I also recall you posting that Youtube clip of it. I'll let you know once I get around seeing it, and we'll see which one is better.


You better do that asap! but there will not be much to discuss as both are from one director and both in probably anyone's top 5 westerns ever. it's just a matter of taste as both films are equally great IMO.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE
IMPORTANT MOMENT
12/10/2008 4:19:00 PM
Andriy Shevchenko today at Milanello. His words are on Rino Gattuso, on the team, on his condition and on Sunday’s rivals, both as a group and individual players.

MILANELLO – This is Andriy Shevchenko, today, at Milan Channel. Very often protagonist of games between Milan and Juventus, many times decisive. However, Sheva started from Gattuso: “It was a big surprise for us this injury. On Sunday Rino had finished the game, he was fundamental as always. I’m very sorry for what happened to him. He's a leader for us, we shall feel a lot his absence. For some of our players, especially in midfielder, this is an important moment, but the thing I mostly want to do now is to wish Rino a speedy recovery. I’m convinced that already from the rehabilitation phase, his presence at Milanello will be important.”

The Andriy spoke about the team and himself: “After two defeats it was very important to obtain a result in front of our public and we managed to do so against Catania. Now we must continue, we will all be very happy to obtain a good result in Turin on Sunday against Juventus. I’m fine, I’m reaching my best condition. I scored in the Coppa Italian and I created chances in the elague. I feel much better and I feel able to give my contribution to the team.”

Then on Juventus: “A game like this is the most important in Italy in terms of wins. The two teams who won most in Italy and on the international scene will be facing each other. Now in the standings we have the same number of points, both teams want to win and it will be tough for us as well as for them. The Scudetto? The road is still long, we at Milan must always play to win. Me and Nedved Golden Ball winners of 2003 and 2004? Yes, important years, Nedved is a great player, he had a great career. I recently read that he regrets never to have played a Champions League final and I understand him perfectly. However he still gave a lot to his national team and the same Juventus in the Champions League.”


Shevchenko: Important Moment - acmilan.com
kurtsimonw
sheva is da bst playa n da wurld.
Jack Sparrow
Woo hoo...kurt is 12 again and channeling the goal.com spirit.
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