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 Aug 29 2014, 09:18 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun  Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008  |
I think it's time Jack explained why Torres sucked at Chelsea.
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Aug 29 2014, 09:28 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 29 2014, 07:30 PM)  Actually hopeful about Torres. Expect around 10 to 15 goals a season from him. On par return for a striker who will cost us around 6 to 8 million tops over the 2 years of his contract. We're getting him for free and the salary is 3 or 3.5 million rising up to 4 with bonus. I have to say that our wage cap is being held inviolate and I like it. fwiw I am actually pleased with the signing too. Initially I nearly chucked up, but now, weighing it up, I'm a lot more optimistic about him than I was before. He's a technical pace striker, who was actually used as a target man battering ram at Chelsea. AKA a 'Drogba'. It didn't work and it damaged him a lot. If Conte thinks this will work out for Pippo's Milan, I trust him - because while he's a Juventini, he's an excellent manager with top class judgement. |
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Aug 29 2014, 09:52 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 29 2014, 10:45 PM) In 4 years at Chelsea he's scored 20 league goals. You think he'll score 15 in one? Weirder things have happened. |
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Aug 29 2014, 09:58 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
I think Torres suffered Kaká's fate, who after leaving us at 27 never was the same old player, and at 30 he was already a finished player. Can't see Torres doing more than what Kaká did for us last season. Another typical B&G signing, lots of appeal but zero planning. Just like Alex.
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Aug 29 2014, 09:59 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Torres will be for us exactly like Sheva was on his second stint. Mark my words.
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Aug 29 2014, 10:11 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
Milan have sold Paloschi for a few millions, and now have signed Torres who will eat those millions in salary. Long term it's obvious what was the wise thing to do, but management seems impatient ...again...
Sadly, there are more examples to give. Wasn't their some youth project? That lasted long then. |
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Aug 29 2014, 10:26 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
Ok taking a look at his stats last season, he started 24 games for chelsea and scored 16 in all competitions. I think this sort of thing happens when a player loses confidence and is given a lot of sub opportunities instead of starts. He had 23 sub ins last season for chelsea.
This guy was one of my all times favorites. At his prime he was like no other IMO. I personally think it's too late for him to turn it around, especially for a player that peaked so early but his starts vs goal ratio last season is good. We'll see if Pippo can give the guy some confidence and truly count on him, then he might just step up! |
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Aug 29 2014, 10:53 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2014, 08:58 PM) I think Torres suffered Kaká's fate, who after leaving us at 27 never was the same old player, Actually he was garbage for us for the last two years. Garbage by his own high standards. Ronaldo and Messi surpassed him totally. Hence us selling him was a genius piece of business. |
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Aug 29 2014, 11:05 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (KillerMax @ Aug 29 2014, 09:26 PM) Ok taking a look at his stats last season, he started 24 games for chelsea and scored 16 in all competitions. I think this sort of thing happens when a player loses confidence and is given a lot of sub opportunities instead of starts. He had 23 sub ins last season for chelsea. This guy was one of my all times favorites. At his prime he was like no other IMO. I personally think it's too late for him to turn it around, especially for a player that peaked so early but his starts vs goal ratio last season is good. We'll see if Pippo can give the guy some confidence and truly count on him, then he might just step up! Looking at his overall Chelsea stats: 172 appearances, 46 goals It's over one in 4. For a player desperately low on form & confidence it's better than you'd actually think. Hopefully Pippo can instill confidence in him again, and get him scoring because I agree - when on form he was an absolutely pearling striker. |
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Aug 29 2014, 11:05 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
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Aug 30 2014, 12:17 AM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
You guys compare Torres with Kaka, but forget that they're completely different players. In his early years, Torres used to rely on his speed. But here the parallel ends. Kaka is an AM/SS and as such, his pace, acceleration and dribbling skill were vital. Strikers like Torres are a completely different breed. Just remember Inzaghi. Whit loosing his speed, he only got more lethal in the box.
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Aug 30 2014, 12:26 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 29 2014, 11:11 PM) Milan have sold Paloschi for a few millions, and now have signed Torres who will eat those millions in salary. Long term it's obvious what was the wise thing to do, but management seems impatient ...again... Sadly, there are more examples to give. Wasn't their some youth project? That lasted long then. Yeah that whole youth thing never really got off the ground, did it? I'm very disappointed with Milan's stance on Paloschi over these last few years. You'd have thought we'd have given him a chance at some point rather than just shipping him around. |
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Aug 30 2014, 12:30 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 30 2014, 12:17 AM) You guys compare Torres with Kaka, but forget that they're completely different players. In his early years, Torres used to rely on his speed. But here the parallel ends. Kaka is an AM/SS and as such, his pace, acceleration and dribbling skill were vital. Strikers like Torres are a completely different breed. Just remember Inzaghi. Whit loosing his speed, he only got more lethal in the box. Nah, not comparing them in that sense, more like drawing a parallel between their late careers. - Alex - 0€ Menez - 0€ Armero - 0€ Diego Lopez - 0€ Fernando Torres - 0€ Well now... |
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Aug 30 2014, 12:36 AM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Aug 30 2014, 01:11 AM) Milan have sold Paloschi for a few millions, and now have signed Torres who will eat those millions in salary. Long term it's obvious what was the wise thing to do, but management seems impatient ...again... Sadly, there are more examples to give. Wasn't their some youth project? That lasted long then. Paloschi scored more than Torres last season. 15 goals in 36 games > 11 goals in 41 games. True story. |
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Aug 30 2014, 12:38 AM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2014, 03:30 AM) Alex - 0€ Menez - 0€ Armero - 0€ Diego Lopez - 0€ Fernando Torres - 0€ Well now... Champions League money in the foreseeable future - 0€ |
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