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han2503
Still think we need another CB R7. Gabbia is just not a viable backup. And no, it shouldn't be just anyone. Either bring in a young player who is promising, or at least an experienced Serie A player. Gabbia should be loaned, we've see him stunted for the past 3 years now because he's not seeing enough minutes. Send him to a mid-table Serie A side to get good time under his belt and then we can re-assess

Midfield we've lost Kessie. And although he was pretty average throughout last season, it's still a big hole to fill, Adli is an attacking mid, at most a CM, he cannot play in the double pivot imo. Pobega I'm still not sold on and we cannot put the entire burden of the midfield on Tonali and Bennacer. The schedule is going to be super tight because of the ridiculous WC in the winter so we need an extra mid. Whether that will be Sanches or someone else, I do not know, but we need another player in there who is just as good as Benna and Tonali

Re the transfer market. I can understand why everyone is getting frustrated. We've already wasted June with the will they/won't they management renewal saga. Now we've been reading "Milan one step closer to X player" for weeks on end with nothing happening. We're a month away from the start of the season and we're still staring at the potential of starting the season with f@cking Messias and Alexis on the right and no AM to speak of while playing a system that uses an AM...

I thought we'd be quick out of the blocks this summer but we've basically done nothing so far aside from a free transfer. It is worrying that we're still haggling over 5m differences as well. How many players are we going to lose because of this?
X-Offender
I think at this point we just have to be patient. We know how this management operates, and as irritating as it can get, we really should give a final verdict to the transfer window on the 31st of August.

And in all honesty, I really don't think we have lost any players by taking too long. Botman was never meant to be because we could have never matched Newcastle's offer of 40m, regardless of how much Botman wanted to join us.

Same for Renato Sanches. Whereas we do have an agreement with Lille, the player just keeps asking too much money, and once there was an interest from PSG he completely botched negotiations with us. The guy just reeks of mercenary if you ask me.
han2503
^^^ agreed. Still sad about Sanches, but what can you do. I can't fault him either, players have to look out for themselves. I really don't thin it's a matter of him being a mercenary. His former coach and management have moved over to PSG. I can't blame him for wanting to work with Galtier again at PSG, not to mention the salary is reportedly more than double of what we offered.

That being said, had the futsing about with the management's contracts not been an issue, I do think we'd have closed the deal out as soon as the season ended, before Campos and Galtier moved over to PSG. The delay made the PSG swoop possible



I've come to the conclusion that no media outlet knows wtf is going on with our transfer market. Stuff is usually announced just as they're about to happen. When these long transfer sagas happen, it usually just media talk and nothing ever comes of it. I wouldn't be surprised if we signed 3 random players we've never been linked with as of yet.

That being said, it is still frustrating that's we're going to waste pre-season with Pioli being unable to integrate the new players into the group before the season starts. Because at this rate, that's looking very likely
X-Offender
Bruh, Sanches has been playing with his salary demands for half a year with us. If he really had any working brain cells, he'd sign for us on that 4.5m offer and be one of the most important players in our team. Sign for PSG and you're simply one of the many in a team fully stacked with midfielders.

I honestly can't stand him anymore and he can go f*ck himself as far as I'm concerned.
X-Offender
So we beat Koln 2-1 last night. Saw the match. We were missing almost all starters, but still in the first half we had a good display. Rebic looks really fresh and gritty in these early games. Hopefully injuries don't torment him anymore cos we desperately need him like this. His assist to Giroud was splendid.

I'm also being impressed by Adli. The kid really could turn out to be the trequartista we needed. With Leao and De Ketelaere on the flanks we could have something special.

On a side note, about De Ketelaere, many people seem to think the guy is a #10 AM. But that's not the case. In his entire professional career he has played in that position only 13 times in 113 games. He doesn't like to play centrally but always starting from the flanks. Just check his heatmap from last season:

han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 16 2022, 09:39 AM) *
Bruh, Sanches has been playing with his salary demands for half a year with us. If he really had any working brain cells, he'd sign for us on that 4.5m offer and be one of the most important players in our team. Sign for PSG and you're simply one of the many in a team fully stacked with midfielders.

I honestly can't stand him anymore and he can go f*ck himself as far as I'm concerned.

We're offering him 3.5 last I checked. A lot of matters have played into this though. In June we were basically stuck and didn't complete any deals with the management's futures up in the air. That allowed the Lille people to move over to PSG, which is when the deal got f@cked over imo. At PSG he'll be going to play for a coach that knows him and sees him as valuable though. It's not as cut and dry as you're making it out to be. He won't be just a number there. Plus they're offering him almost 2 times as much as us. And for us on the outside it's easy to say pick Milan but would you honestly choose a job that pays nearly half of what another company is offering you?

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 17 2022, 12:41 PM) *
So we beat Koln 2-1 last night. Saw the match. We were missing almost all starters, but still in the first half we had a good display. Rebic looks really fresh and gritty in these early games. Hopefully injuries don't torment him anymore cos we desperately need him like this. His assist to Giroud was splendid.

I'm also being impressed by Adli. The kid really could turn out to be the trequartista we needed. With Leao and De Ketelaere on the flanks we could have something special.

On a side note, about De Ketelaere, many people seem to think the guy is a #10 AM. But that's not the case. In his entire professional career he has played in that position only 13 times in 113 games. He doesn't like to play centrally but always starting from the flanks. Just check his heatmap from last season:


First half we had some first teamers (normal rotation players) we looked pretty sharp. Barely watched the s=2nd half as it was a mess with all the changes. Did you see some of the body cam footage? Looked really interesting

As for CDK, I don't know, but if that's the case, why are we going after Ziyech and not an AM in that case? Let's see what happens. I really hope we get both still, but given this info, it would make more sense to get a pure AM

Btw, Pobega and Baka are not going to be up to snuff. Without Kessie our midfield is threadbare. One injury to Tonali or Benna and we are capital F f@cked! We absolutely have to look into getting a defensive mid as well this summer. Which atm I'm really concerned about considering we're not being linked to any and have not concluded a single deal aside from a free transfer and we're passed mid July
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 17 2022, 02:58 PM) *
We're offering him 3.5 last I checked. A lot of matters have played into this though. In June we were basicallu stuck and didn't complete any deals with the management's futures up in the air. That allowed the Lilli connection to move over to PSG, which is when the deal got f@cked over imo. At PSG he'll be going to play for a coach that know him and sees him as valuable though. It's not as cut and dry as you're making it out to be. He won't be just a number there. Pls they're offering him almost 2 times as much as us. And for us on the outside it's easy to say pick Milan but would you honestly choose to a job that pays nearly half of what another company is offering you?


We don't know anything about how much each club is offering. It's all media speculation. For example, I've heard we're offering him 4.5m, not 3.5m. Which proves exactly my point.

And if his old coach values him so much PSG wouldn't be offering scraps to Lille to sign him. If they want wanted they could write a cheque of 20m and be done with it.

But hey, as I said, the guy can do whatever the f*ck he pleases. I've personally lost all hopes and respect for him.
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 17 2022, 02:58 PM) *
First half we had some first teamers (normal rotation players) we looked pretty sharp. Barely watched the s=2nd half as it was a mess with all the changes. Did you see some of the body cam footage? Looked really interesting

As for CDK, I don't know, but if that's the case, why are we going after Ziyech and not an AM in that case? Let's see what happens. I really hope we get both still, but given this info, it would make more sense to get a pure AM

Btw, Pobega and Baka are not going to be up to snuff. Without Kessie our midfield is threadbare. One injury to Tonali or Benna and we are capital F f@cked! We absolutely have to look into getting a defensive mid as well this summer. Which atm I'm really concerned about considering we're not being linked to any and have not concluded a single deal aside from a free transfer and we're passed mid July


Because, as I said, with Adli and Brahim we're pretty much covered in the AM department. I have a feeling Adli will surprise everyone this season. I know it's too early to make such a proclamation, but I get really good vibes from him. And maybe Pioli is seeing it too.

When you think about it, the rumours regarding Ziyech have died down considerably. I'm not saying negotiations have fallen, but maybe he's more of a last minute bargain deal if the opportunity presents itself.

Agreed about Pobega and Bakayoko. Whilst we knew Bakayoko is trash, Pobega is somebody a lot of people have high hopes for. But to me he's always looked like a very mediocre player. I just don't see how he can fit in our playing style.

We should offload Bakayoko as soon as possible (I read Rino is interested in bringing him in at Valencia), sign a decent backup for Tonali and Benna, and have Pobega be the 4th choice in that midfield.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 14 2022, 10:59 PM) *
Still think we need another CB R7. Gabbia is just not a viable backup. And no, it shouldn't be just anyone. Either bring in a young player who is promising, or at least an experienced Serie A player. Gabbia should be loaned, we've see him stunted for the past 3 years now because he's not seeing enough minutes. Send him to a mid-table Serie A side to get good time under his belt and then we can re-assess

Midfield we've lost Kessie. And although he was pretty average throughout last season, it's still a big hole to fill, Adli is an attacking mid, at most a CM, he cannot play in the double pivot imo. Pobega I'm still not sold on and we cannot put the entire burden of the midfield on Tonali and Bennacer. The schedule is going to be super tight because of the ridiculous WC in the winter so we need an extra mid. Whether that will be Sanches or someone else, I do not know, but we need another player in there who is just as good as Benna and Tonali

Re the transfer market. I can understand why everyone is getting frustrated. We've already wasted June with the will they/won't they management renewal saga. Now we've been reading "Milan one step closer to X player" for weeks on end with nothing happening. We're a month away from the start of the season and we're still staring at the potential of starting the season with f@cking Messias and Alexis on the right and no AM to speak of while playing a system that uses an AM...

I thought we'd be quick out of the blocks this summer but we've basically done nothing so far aside from a free transfer. It is worrying that we're still haggling over 5m differences as well. How many players are we going to lose because of this?


Yes i agree, Gabbia should be loaned out for sure. A decent backup to Tomori/Kjaer/Kalulu, Serie A proven is preferred here.

For midfield, I dont know I think Pobega would do well to get some minutes and European exposure. He is a youth product and a kid I liked what he showed at Torino last season. If Bakayoko leaves then there is room for one more.

For the AM, CDK seems imminent to arrive. However for RW, I am not sure if Ziyech will come on loan or the club will bring in someone else.


The slow maneuvering was due in most part to the renewal of Maldini/Massara as Paolo stated that they will recover lost ground. But the budget is still tight despite winning the Scudetto.

I remain optimistic, but wont dream of a Mr X just yet.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 17 2022, 03:09 PM) *
We don't know anything about how much each club is offering. It's all media speculation. For example, I've heard we're offering him 4.5m, not 3.5m. Which proves exactly my point.

And if his old coach values him so much PSG wouldn't be offering scraps to Lille to sign him. If they want wanted they could write a cheque of 20m and be done with it.

But hey, as I said, the guy can do whatever the f*ck he pleases. I've personally lost all hopes and respect for him.

It is clear by now that no media outlet really has a solid inside source with this management. The BS reports are getting to the point where I'm really ignoring everything right now.

I still want Renato, whether he's been swayed by PSG is another matter. Last week the French media said PSG close for him, now they're saying nothing has happened on that front. It's as you said, if PSG really wanted him and the player is pushing for it, it would have been done. So it is not as cut and dry as you're saying. We're making judgments on this player based on BS reporting. It's always going to be the case that a player and agent wil push for the best for themselves. My issue is that we're currently operating within budget constraints which are worse than Roma/Lazio's it seems, which is seriously worrying and does not bode well for the future under the new management. And under those restrictions you're never going to get your first choice, not in today's market

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 17 2022, 03:15 PM) *
Because, as I said, with Adli and Brahim we're pretty much covered in the AM department. I have a feeling Adli will surprise everyone this season. I know it's too early to make such a proclamation, but I get really good vibes from him. And maybe Pioli is seeing it too.

When you think about it, the rumours regarding Ziyech have died down considerably. I'm not saying negotiations have fallen, but maybe he's more of a last minute bargain deal if the opportunity presents itself.

Agreed about Pobega and Bakayoko. Whilst we knew Bakayoko is trash, Pobega is somebody a lot of people have high hopes for. But to me he's always looked like a very mediocre player. I just don't see how he can fit in our playing style.

We should offload Bakayoko as soon as possible (I read Rino is interested in bringing him in at Valencia), sign a decent backup for Tonali and Benna, and have Pobega be the 4th choice in that midfield.

We should have cashed in on Pobega of Toro wanted him. I do not understand keeping him and redeeming Messias as well. Neither decision makes sense as we've basically just added 2 bodies to the squad that won't add quality but are just a number. I don't think we can rely on Adli and Diaz. Inter and Juve have improved their squads, especially Juve, 2 kids who are unproven are not going to cut it. We did not replace Hakan last summer and now we're going to p!ss away another summer without signing a proper AM. And we're also seemingly waffling on the CDK front. This summer, is becoming so tedious that I feel myself developing a stomach ulcer!

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 19 2022, 07:33 AM) *
Yes i agree, Gabbia should be loaned out for sure. A decent backup to Tomori/Kjaer/Kalulu, Serie A proven is preferred here.

For midfield, I dont know I think Pobega would do well to get some minutes and European exposure. He is a youth product and a kid I liked what he showed at Torino last season. If Bakayoko leaves then there is room for one more.

For the AM, CDK seems imminent to arrive. However for RW, I am not sure if Ziyech will come on loan or the club will bring in someone else.


The slow maneuvering was due in most part to the renewal of Maldini/Massara as Paolo stated that they will recover lost ground. But the budget is still tight despite winning the Scudetto.

I remain optimistic, but wont dream of a Mr X just yet.

CDK is a winger as x-off rightly point out above, look at any video clip of him, he always starts wide. The Messias signing looks even worse in this case because we'll have put in nearly 6m for him and we're going for another RW, plus Alexis as well. Unless we're going to sell off either Alexis or Messias Ziyech and CDK at the same time are a no-go
X-Offender
Unfortunately this is another slow summer. Nothing has really changed. We just have to bear it and be patient.
Rossoneri7
Messias and Saelmakers are great options to have when your roster has either CDK or Ziyach or both.

This summer things are rather quiet at the HQ. But I remain optimistic as the club havnt even reacted to either positive or negative rumors. Which means there are moves being done, what we are being fed is media crap that only reveal the tip of the iceberg.

Take Sanches for example, the media keeps spinning things like his preferred destination is PSG, when the player himself has not come out publicly to state that.

I leave this with you to decipher the codes in the media as I give up on reading anything they spit out until Maldini himself comes shoulder to shoulder with the respective player and a contract in hand.
X-Offender
This Adli kid, I'm starting to like him quite a lot...
han2503
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 21 2022, 12:01 PM) *
Messias and Saelmakers are great options to have when your roster has either CDK or Ziyach or both.

This summer things are rather quiet at the HQ. But I remain optimistic as the club havnt even reacted to either positive or negative rumors. Which means there are moves being done, what we are being fed is media crap that only reveal the tip of the iceberg.

Take Sanches for example, the media keeps spinning things like his preferred destination is PSG, when the player himself has not come out publicly to state that.

I leave this with you to decipher the codes in the media as I give up on reading anything they spit out until Maldini himself comes shoulder to shoulder with the respective player and a contract in hand.

It's been proven over and over again for a while now that there is no inside source with the management in the media.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 27 2022, 06:51 PM) *
This Adli kid, I'm starting to like him quite a lot...

Didn't watch the friendly but people on social media are raving about him. Looks like the RW is going to be the final part of the puzzle for the attack as things stand with Adli in the mix

We're also being linked with that Aston Villa kid and people rate him really highly. I think this is the way to go for us. Adli for 8m looks like it's going to be great business, CDK costs more because he's been hyped for a couple of years now, but we're going to have to make these bargain moves for young players because the budget is clearly not there

At least positive signs have filtered through today re the CDK deal. Hopefully we close that, get a CDM, CB and maybe a LB backup if possible.
han2503
Btw R7, re Renato. I find it hard to believe that PSG want a player and wouldn't just complete the deal especially when the price is low because of an expiring contract. I don't know of it is us, them or the player holding up the deal. We'll see how it ends but I haven't completely lost faith that we'll bring him in. If we get him and CDK. I think we're good in midfield and attack. Ziyech would be a luxury signing and would make the messias signing even more of a head scratcher. Especially with Alexis still on the books
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2022, 09:06 AM) *
Btw R7, re Renato. I find it hard to believe that PSG want a player and wouldn't just complete the deal especially when the price is low because of an expiring contract. I don't know of it is us, them or the player holding up the deal. We'll see how it ends but I haven't completely lost faith that we'll bring him in. If we get him and CDK. I think we're good in midfield and attack. Ziyech would be a luxury signing and would make the messias signing even more of a head scratcher. Especially with Alexis still on the books


PSG are waiting to sell first. They have too many mids. The moment some space will become available they'll get him. He's a gone player for us. Which is a shame cos he would have been perfect.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 28 2022, 10:43 AM) *
PSG are waiting to sell first. They have too many mids. The moment some space will become available they'll get him. He's a gone player for us. Which is a shame cos he would have been perfect.

Well aside from Verratti and Wijnaldum non of them are top notch players but all are probably on massive salaries. It's going to be difficult to sell more than Wijnaldum and he's probably going to Roma on loan with PSG having of still pay half of his salary.

We'll see, but I don't think this is the reason for any potential deal stalling. Being over stacked in a department never stopped them before from signing players. They can afford to keep all of them without any issues
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2022, 01:07 PM) *
Well aside from Verratti and Wijnaldum non of them are top notch players but all are probably on massive salaries. It's going to be difficult to sell more than Wijnaldum and he's probably going to Roma on loan with PSG having of still pay half of his salary.

We'll see, but I don't think this is the reason for any potential deal stalling. Being over stacked in a department never stopped them before from signing players. They can afford to keep all of them without any issues


Then why are they not signing him? It's the most logical explanation. They have changed technical direction with Ocampos this season, so they are being more cautious, considering they are also experiencing huge losses and the Liga lawsuit about the Mbappe renewal situation.

I am 100% confident Sanches will sign for them, otherwise he'd already be training with us.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2022, 12:06 PM) *
Btw R7, re Renato. I find it hard to believe that PSG want a player and wouldn't just complete the deal especially when the price is low because of an expiring contract. I don't know of it is us, them or the player holding up the deal. We'll see how it ends but I haven't completely lost faith that we'll bring him in. If we get him and CDK. I think we're good in midfield and attack. Ziyech would be a luxury signing and would make the messias signing even more of a head scratcher. Especially with Alexis still on the books


I read comments from Albertini when he was questioned about Milan?s transfer activities, he stated that Maldini and Massara started from a while ago and dont act on prematurely. So if the CDK deal closes, I have a strong feeling the Sanches deal will follow along with that Spurs CB.

Think the players already have an agreement, its just Milan negotiating for transfer fees that fit their budgets.

With Ziyech, he is either an alternative for Milan or Milan seriously want to bolster the front line, (Rebic, Leao, CBK, Ziyech, Origi, Giroud, etc) that is serious fire power.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 28 2022, 01:34 PM) *
Then why are they not signing him? It's the most logical explanation. They have changed technical direction with Ocampos this season, so they are being more cautious, considering they are also experiencing huge losses and the Liga lawsuit about the Mbappe renewal situation.

I am 100% confident Sanches will sign for them, otherwise he'd already be training with us.

I think it's the opposite actually. If PSG really wanted him, he'd have been a PSG player weeks ago. I agree that their new management team will not act like Leonardo but, his price is minimal and they've signed other players since they started being linked with Sanches.

On the other hand, it is clear funds are tight for us. The management were obviously prioritizing this CDK deal, but with it now done, I think we'll see the other moves being concluded quicker because my thinking is that we've based the entire budget with the CDK transfer sum as a major factor of how we move forward.

This is why I think we let the Botman deal go. The player wanted to come to Milan, that was clear. However I do think that it was us that backed out, and not as the media were saying that he got tired of waiting. The money was never gong to be there to sink another 30m on a CB so we prioritized the CDK signing over Botman. The Kalulu emergence is what probably cause this shift to happen imo

So back to my main point, because I got side tracked, I do think that now that CDK is in the bag, we'll see the other dominos fall quicker. At least that's the theory that I have.

So I'm not saying that you're wrong re PSG-Sanches. You could be 100% right of course. But I've always wondered why they would wait to sign him, especially when the transfer fee is quite low.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 29 2022, 12:07 PM) *
I read comments from Albertini when he was questioned about Milan?s transfer activities, he stated that Maldini and Massara started from a while ago and dont act on prematurely. So if the CDK deal closes, I have a strong feeling the Sanches deal will follow along with that Spurs CB.

Think the players already have an agreement, its just Milan negotiating for transfer fees that fit their budgets.

With Ziyech, he is either an alternative for Milan or Milan seriously want to bolster the front line, (Rebic, Leao, CBK, Ziyech, Origi, Giroud, etc) that is serious fire power.

I agree that we might see the next 2/3 moves happening quickly now that the "big" signing of the summer is done. We absolutely do need to bring in 2 more players, preferably 3. So we'll see how the management moves now that the CDK deal has been concluded

I think Ziyech is a big opportunity that we shouldn't miss out on. He's a high quality player, that has won big titles. Him coming in would mean that CDK isn't under immense pressure to perform instantly. But yeah, the attack is going to be super stacked for this season if we get Ziyech as well, which once again, makes me scratch my head with regards to the Messias signing. Still makes no sense to me why we wasted 4m when we obviously had much bigger fish in mind for the attack
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 29 2022, 08:40 PM) *
I think it's the opposite actually. If PSG really wanted him, he'd have been a PSG player weeks ago. I agree that their new management team will not act like Leonardo but, his price is minimal and they've signed other players since they started being linked with Sanches.

On the other hand, it is clear funds are tight for us. The management were obviously prioritizing this CDK deal, but with it now done, I think we'll see the other moves being concluded quicker because my thinking is that we've based the entire budget with the CDK transfer sum as a major factor of how we move forward.

This is why I think we let the Botman deal go. The player wanted to come to Milan, that was clear. However I do think that it was us that backed out, and not as the media were saying that he got tired of waiting. The money was never gong to be there to sink another 30m on a CB so we prioritized the CDK signing over Botman. The Kalulu emergence is what probably cause this shift to happen imo

So back to my main point, because I got side tracked, I do think that now that CDK is in the bag, we'll see the other dominos fall quicker. At least that's the theory that I have.

So I'm not saying that you're wrong re PSG-Sanches. You could be 100% right of course. But I've always wondered why they would wait to sign him, especially when the transfer fee is quite low.


PSG are stalling for one reason or another, and Sanches is waiting for them. But eventually the time will come when they'll make their offer to Lille and the player will transfer there. In Portugal today they wrote it will be a loan with obligation, and that it's just a matter of time. Just forget about him.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 29 2022, 08:40 PM) *
But yeah, the attack is going to be super stacked for this season if we get Ziyech as well, which once again, makes me scratch my head with regards to the Messias signing. Still makes no sense to me why we wasted 4m when we obviously had much bigger fish in mind for the attack


Because if Ziyech doesn't arrive (which is a very concrete possibility at this point), then Messias is the perfect sub to have on the right wing, much more so than Saelemaekers.

I will actually go against the flow on this one and say I wouldn't mind at all if Ziyech doesn't arrive, because I view CDK as a right winger, and because I have tremendous faith in Adli.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 29 2022, 09:16 PM) *
PSG are stalling for one reason or another, and Sanches is waiting for them. But eventually the time will come when they'll make their offer to Lille and the player will transfer there. In Portugal today they wrote it will be a loan with obligation, and that it's just a matter of time. Just forget about him.

They've been saying it's going to be done within the next 48 hours for a month now.

Also, it cannot be a loan with obligation. His contract expires next summer


QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 29 2022, 09:16 PM) *
Because if Ziyech doesn't arrive (which is a very concrete possibility at this point), then Messias is the perfect sub to have on the right wing, much more so than Saelemaekers.

I will actually go against the flow on this one and say I wouldn't mind at all if Ziyech doesn't arrive, because I view CDK as a right winger, and because I have tremendous faith in Adli.

I disagree re Messias. He has shown us nothing o suggest he'd be the perfect sub for the Italian champions who are also competing in the CL. Sorry, I like the guy but he's not Milan quality. We should have cut our losses and sent him back to Crotone. That's his level

We're not going to get 18m offers for Alexis, that's a pipe dream. So why keep both him and Messias, plus sign CDK and potentially Ziyech as well (just read that we're still interested). The schedule is going to be packed and this kid is going to have a lot of pressure on him considering the transfer fee and the drama to get this over the line, having an experienced player like Ziyech would smooth over his transition into being a first team player. Messias or Alexis should be far away from the field

Agree re Adli, but he's a CM/AM hybrid, has nothing to do with the players being mentioned
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 29 2022, 09:39 PM) *
They've been saying it's going to be done within the next 48 hours for a month now.

Also, it cannot be a loan with obligation. His contract expires next summer


They said he'll renew for another year.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 29 2022, 09:39 PM) *
I disagree re Messias. He has shown us nothing o suggest he'd be the perfect sub for the Italian champions who are also competing in the CL. Sorry, I like the guy but he's not Milan quality. We should have cut our losses and sent him back to Crotone. That's his level

We're not going to get 18m offers for Alexis, that's a pipe dream. So why keep both him and Messias, plus sign CDK and potentially Ziyech as well (just read that we're still interested). The schedule is going to be packed and this kid is going to have a lot of pressure on him considering the transfer fee and the drama to get this over the line, having an experienced player like Ziyech would smooth over his transition into being a first team player. Messias or Alexis should be far away from the field


I know you don't like Messias, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. I know many Milan fans who value his contribution, and I'm one of them. Last year he had some very decent showings, and also some very bad ones. But that's because he's not starting material. Having him on the bench ready to come in at any moment is the perfect role for him.

And like I said, I value him way more than Saelemaekers who's not even bench material for me at this point. Get rid of him ASAP.

Not so sure Ziyech is coming, man. People are saying he's not part of the plans anymore. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 29 2022, 09:39 PM) *
Agree re Adli, but he's a CM/AM hybrid, has nothing to do with the players being mentioned


No no, I meant I have faith in him for the AM role.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 29 2022, 10:41 PM) *
They said he'll renew for another year.

Still makes no sense for me why PSG would formulate that kind of deal for a measly 10m...

Anyway, we'll see what happens. A Kessie replacement should be priority number 1 now with CDK wrapped up.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 29 2022, 10:41 PM) *
I know you don't like Messias, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. I know many Milan fans who value his contribution, and I'm one of them. Last year he had some very decent showings, and also some very bad ones. But that's because he's not starting material. Having him on the bench ready to come in at any moment is the perfect role for him.

And like I said, I value him way more than Saelemaekers who's not even bench material for me at this point. Get rid of him ASAP.

Not so sure Ziyech is coming, man. People are saying he's not part of the plans anymore. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

It's not about not liking him. As a man he's great, puts his head down and works, but in terms of his qualities as a player, he's just not where we need to be aiming, even for a sub

Like I said, with Alexis we're not going to get the 15-18m we're hoping for plus I personally think he's a much more useful utility player than Messias.

I think re Ziyech, if the conditions are right we'll bring him in. But obviously CM and CB will take priority

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 29 2022, 10:41 PM) *
No no, I meant I have faith in him for the AM role.

Ah ok gotcha, but for me it's still a big risk to rely so much on 2 kids for those positions. Ziyech can play RW/AM and he's got a lot of experience. Brahim, Messias, Alexis have all shown that they'e not good enough at this point. Most CL teams don't have such a huge drop off when going to the subs. That's why I still think that if the opportunity is there, we should absolutely go for Ziyech, no hesitation. He'd take our attack to the next level instantly.
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