It's just our opinions on certain situations that differ, hence the disagreement.

UEFA are still to announce what punishment Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger will receive for being sent off during his side's defeat by Sevilla last month.

Wenger has also missed one match already and could face a harsher sanction than Rijkaard after failing to retreat all the way to the stands following his 80th minute dismissal.

Wanna join?

We'll draw arsenal or liverpool. Hope pato scores a couple of his 30 goals in those games.

Bring on Arsenal  

BTW does anyone know how many hours till the CL draw, so I can use my clock and work out the relative time.

Worst case scenario:
Arsenal vs. Milan.
Arsenal wins...
...and are eliminated in the quarters...
...Man U and Chelsea face off in the final.

Last season's finalists - AC Milan and Liverpool - could face each other in the second round of the Champions League for their third meeting in four seasons.

The two clubs, which have won Europe's top club trophy a combined 12 times, are among the 16 teams in Friday's draw for the first knockout round.

Milan beat Liverpool 2-1 in Athens, Greece, in May for its seventh title, two seasons after the English club came from 3-0 down at halftime to draw 3-3 and then edge the Italian team on penalties.

Friday's draw in Nyon, Switzerland, pits the eight group winners against the eight runners-up, meaning there could also be a repeat of the 2006 final between FC Barcelona and Arsenal.

The eight group winners are FC Porto, Chelsea, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Barcelona, Manchester United, Inter Milan and Sevilla. They will meet runners-up Liverpool, Schalke, Olympiakos, Celtic, Lyon, AS Roma, Fenerbahce and Arsenal.

Because teams from the same country or same first-round group can't face each other, the four English Premier League survivors won't meet each other. Neither will the three Serie A or three Spanish league teams.

"There are a few teams that could be dangerous and would be better to avoid like Liverpool, Arsenal and Lyon," Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti said. "We'll see, but luckily we have the advantage of playing the second game at home."

Five-time champion Liverpool, which had been on the verge of early elimination this season, thrashed Marseille 4-0 to reach the last 16.

"These are good times for us at the moment," Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez said then. "We are playing well and with confidence. It's not a problem who we play against now. All of them are good sides but we are just enjoying ourselves."

The draw format means group winner and English champion Manchester United is limited to meeting Schalke, Olympiakos, Celtic, Lyon or Fenerbahce, which appears comparatively easy.

Premier League leader Arsenal, however, could face any of FC Porto, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Barcelona or Inter Milan, which looks far tougher.

"I feel for us maybe it is not necessarily a disadvantage to play the big clubs," Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said. "At least the big clubs will play (soccer) as well."

Scottish champion and standings leader Celtic can't face AC Milan, having played the defending champion in the group phase. But Gordon Strachan's team could get Inter Milan, which is the Serie A champion and standings leader. That would be a repeat of the 1967 final, which Celtic won 2-1 in Lisbon.

Strachan could also face his former manager Alex Ferguson, if the Hoops draw Manchester United.

Although the two Scots had a fallout, Strachan, who played for Ferguson both at Aberdeen and Manchester United, says they are friendly again.

"I said he was a bully but I never said I didn't like him," Strachan said. "He was good for me. He's good for anyone who's worked with him. Unless you're weak-minded then you'll have a problem, he'll probably crush you. You'd have to go and find another job somewhere, or find a psychiatrist.

"I think he's the best manager of all-time."

The first legs of the knockout round are Feb. 19 and 20, with the return games on March 4-5. The group winners have the advantage of playing the second legs at home.

The draw for the 32 teams in the UEFA Cup will also be held Friday. The field includes eight clubs which finished third in their Champions League groups: Marseille, Rosenborg, Werder Bremen, Benfica, Rangers, Sporting Lisbon, PSV Eindhoven and Slavia Prague.                                                                   

Yes! I had a feeling we'd draw **** after Carlo laid into them earlier in the season. I can't wait for this - definitely going to get tickets for the game at the Emirates!

So I guess the following teams will advance:

Celtic v Barcelona : Barcelona
Lyon v Manchester United : United
Schalke v Porto : Schalke
Liverpool v Inter : Liverpool
Roma v Real Madrid : Real. But this is a tough one, I hope Roma go through!
Arsenal v Milan : Milan
Olympiacos v Chelsea : Chelsea
Fenerbahce v Sevilla : Sevilla

What did Carlo say about them!??

its 2 months from now and many things might change till then.

by that time we might have Kaka-Ronaldo-Pato starting the match...who knows!!!

That whole "they're not experianced enough" sh!t 

Interesting draw.

I think I'll become an honorary Scouser for two evenings (sorry, dst!). The Liverpool-Inter games should be interesting matchups.

As for Arsenal-Milan, those should also be very interesting ties. Arsenal are a very good side with some awfully good players (Fabregas, for example). They'll certainly play open football and won't park the bus in front of goal like a lot of Serie A teams do against Milan. The Arsenal fans that I know think they've been handed an easy tie because they think the Milan defense is too old to keep up (the example I've been given is that Walcott will run rings around Maldini). I don't necessarily agree with that assertion and in turn asked my friend how the Arsenal defense would stop Kaka and Pippo . I think it'll be a very even couple of matches, all in all, but I think that Milan have a good chance of coming through.

We should beat them really. When you think about it, we're an experienced team competing in 16 games this season, they're a bunh of kids playing over 50. To lose would be disasterous, and our season would be over.

Milan are only competing in the CL and you know it, we gave up on Serie A before the season even started. "Competing for a CL spot" that, to me, is a contradiction in itself. When you're talking about a team like Milan, then saying we actually need to try and finish 4th, it just says we aren't trying as hard as we can in the league.

Hopefully we win the CL again this year and finally compete in the league!

EDIT: That was weird, I replied to R& and instead of putting a new post in the thread, it just replaced the post that was originally here. 

Milan are only competing in the CL and you know it, we gave up on Serie A before the season even started. "Competing for a CL spot" that, to me, is a contradiction in itself. When you're talking about a team like Milan, then saying we actually need to try and finish 4th, it just says we aren't trying as hard as we can in the league.

Hopefully we win the CL again this year and finally compete in the league!

EDIT: That was weird, I tried to post a reply to R7, instead of adding a new post to the thread it just edited over this post. 

U must be so ignorant to think that it will be easy to get to 4th place in Serie A !!!

They'll certainly play open football and won't park the bus in front of goal like a lot of Serie A teams do against Milan.

If ur implying that Milan r just playing for the CL, then boy are u wrong !!

U must be so ignorant to think that it will be easy to get to 4th place in Serie A !!!

I guess you just need to tune in and watch how hard it will be ! Especially with teams like Juve and Fiorentina hungry for the last two CL spots
Anyways ... Milan will crush Arsenal 

Carletto wary of Gunners

Milan boss Carlo Ancelotti admits that Arsenal are a fearsome proposition in the last 16 of the Champions League.

The Rossoneri avoided old enemies Liverpool, but they have a considerable task ahead when they play the Premier League leaders.

“They are one of the scariest sides in this draw,” Ancelotti remarked to journalists.

“They are technically superior to Liverpool, but they don’t have the same level of experience in this competition.

“This Milan side has never encountered a side from London. Arsenal have a very young team, full of promise and quality.

“At the moment they are leading the League, but after a very positive start to the campaign they have slowed a little.

Ancelotti concluded by choosing the man he sees as the Gunners’ most dangerous threat.

“I especially have great respect for Cesc Fabregas who is think is one of the best midfielders in the world at the moment,” Carletto said.

No they won't. Han seems to think so too but I don't know where you're getting this idea from. Wenger might have been a promoter of attacking football but his team didn't reach the CL final playing attacking football. And I don't remember Arsenal being all attacking in the big league games ever since either. Of course they're not playing like the small sides do in San Siro but I don't expect to give us any space.

In attack they need van Persie. If the Dutch is injured and Adebayor plays up front alone then we might as well rest Nesta and Maldini!

As for Walcott running rings around Maldini... yeah, like CR did last season!

Kaka is the man to watch in this game again of course... he undoubtedly will find some space a couple of times in 90 minutes and we all know he doesn't need more than that to make a difference!

In any case, Arsenal are a great team but they lack CL experience - especially compared to Milan. There's still two months till the first leg kicks off and I know it's not going to be a walk in the park for our players but I want to be optimistic.
I agree with him. Who's right or wrong no one can tell!

U must be so ignorant to think that it will be easy to get to 4th place in Serie A !!!

I guess you just need to tune in and watch how hard it will be ! Especially with teams like Juve and Fiorentina hungry for the last two CL spots
Anyways ... Milan will crush Arsenal 

Don't be too certain...

Don't be too certain...

Talked with few Arseanl fans and they are so sure that they are better and talking
about how our team is old bla bla. (Who the f@ck is Arsenal to be condescending over Milan?) Would be so good to shut them   United fans had the same attitude last year   It's always more satisfying to beat English team.

Anyways ... Milan will crush Arsenal