QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 15 2011, 10:31 PM)

And Aquilani doesn't?
Aquilani mostly had problems at Liverpool, he was relatively injury free at Juve. Players go though difficuilt odd seasons where it's one injury after another. That doesn't mean they're injury prone. Kaka on the other hand has been having problems with his knee and hernias for years now. And that is even more worrying.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:57 PM)

Liverpool loaned out Aquilani to Juventus, he did not perform to expectations, he was good but Pirlo was better

They still paid a huge sum for him after what he did at Roma, which imo was significant and what caught most people's eyes to begng with. Name one Italian player, aside from Zola who had a good playing career in England...
As for his Juve spell, he had good games here and there. But in general, Juve were a hot mess last season, so I don't really give too much weight to his season there.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:57 PM)

Montolivo I rate to an extent, but I do not consider him Mr X, he would add fresh legs for sure. But from what I have seen of him at Fiorentina, he is not Rui Costa (Fiorentina tenure). Nevertheless, he is good.
The Mr. X thing is all Galliani BS to keep the media interested and the fans happy. There was never a Mr. X to begin with imo. I think you've been missing my point, as I've never, in this entire discussion, compared either Montolivo or Aquilani to the likes of Rui Costa or Kaka. I've always said that they'd be good, solid players which will give our midfield some much needed quality when on the ball. And that is what they provide, they might not make us CL winners, but they'll help us in retaining the title and going further in Europe.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:57 PM)

Mega deals? Please, this is Milan not Real Madrid
You mean this list? Roberto Baggio, Marco Van Basten, Oliver Bierhoff, Zvonimir Boban, Christian Broochi, Marcus Cafu, Antonio Cassano, Marcel Desailly, Roberto Donadoni, Nelson Dida, Hernan Crespo, Gennaro Gattuso, Ruud Gullit, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Filippo Inzaghi, Ricardo Kaka, Patrick Kluivert, Alessandro Nesta, Jean-Pierre Papin, Andrea Pirlo, Frank Rijkaard, Robinho, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Dejan Savicevic, Thiago Silva, Andry Shevchenko, Jaap Stam, George Weah, to name a few.
Again, a number of those players came to Milan as relative unkowns, who most thought would be understudies to the older players. Yet all of them (bar Brocchi - what is it with you and this guy? He was always terrible, are you his agent??

) turned out to either be top class players or good players who helped us reached the peaks that we did in those years. And this is what I expect Montolivo and Aquilani to do, they won't become huge stars, and they're not big names now either. Yet they'll inject that extra bit of quality we need.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:57 PM)

I have to take into account their situations? Zlatan and Robinho are world class players, if Milan could take them and retain a Scudetto with them, I’d say it was a brilliant coup for Dr Galliani, considering he was robbing their respective clubs blind. Do you not see how this is a good thing? Clubs and players do sometimes have problems, yes they are human after-all, it’s a window of opportunity – a dream come true for many players. History is rich like that.
Answer me this. Had Robinho and Zlatan not had the problems they had and Man City and Barca respectively, would we have been able to sign them?
I think the answer is fairly obvious, and this is my point exactly, Italian clubs nowadays cannot purchase top class players at their peaks unless the conditions favour them. Do you really think we ever had any chance of actually signing Fabregas? No way! And do you really think we have any chance of signing a big name other then Kaka? A player who is turning 30, is ravaged by injuries and looked over by his coach who would prefer to play a youngster instead of him. I think not

Montolivo and Aquilani may not be huge star names, but again, they're solid, quality players who offer the kind of qualities we need in our midfield, we have plenty of stars and leaders in the team, we don't need that. What we need is some creativity and a midfield that can actually pass the ball instead of lump it.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:57 PM)

Of course next season will be different from the previous. Milan will be eager to prove itself once more … With that said, I expect the club to offer a player of quality in midfield to take the team to the next level - The only way we will be able to tussle it out in Italy and Europe

Yes, and other teams have strangthened while we added depth to an already strong department, while letting an already troubled area get worse by letting one of our best players go for free to a F'ing rival!! One midfielder such as Kaka won't take us anywhere, Kaka is a fairly direct AM, he's not going to link our attack to defence, we need a CM first and foremost, before even thinking about Kaka. And Aquilani and Montolivo are both CMs, they're both good, creative players and fairly cheap due to their current situation at their respective clubs. For me, it's a no-brainer, I don't get what the issue here is. Give me 2 other Central Mid names that you deem worthy of this Milan midfield, and ones that we can realistically afford to bring in...
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:57 PM)

So what if I don’t rate them? I don’t rate them in the same category of say Pirlo and Xavi .. Rui Costa and Kaka .. That would be unfair to them, otherwise they are good squad players, nothing more. They do not present a must purchase now or gloom and doom situation to me - they arrive fine, they don't it doesn't change much.
As I've said millions of times, I don't rate them on that level either, but they're certainly not as bad as you're trying to make them out to be. And imo, they are a must purchase, there aren't many top class CMs running around, and that is the position that we mostly need to fill. The AM position can easily be filled by Robinho, Cassano or Boateng if it came down to it, while our central midfield area is full of muscle players who cannot do anything with the ball, this is our most crucial area. And I don't see any other names cropping up who can fill this slot.
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:57 PM)

Did I say we go into the season with no midfield reinforcements? Honestly now, is that what has been bothering you all this time?

Of course not, must have been my illogical self for considering quality players ahead of your beloved Montolivo and Aquilani?

That was the first thing you mentioned in your first post in regards to this subject, and it literally made me flip the lid over my head

Because imo, our midfield cannot stay as is going into next season, because I believe we'll be in for a big disappointment if that is the case.
Montolivo and Aquilani wouldn't have been my first choice, I mean really, who wouldn't have wanted Fabregas???? Personally I would have wanted us to keep Pirlo and go for someone like Montolivo or Aquilani, but now our midfield is left with nothing but the fading Seedorf. That is the reality, not talking about dream signings such as Fabregas or Xavi. Also you're considering the impossible, as I've asked ou above, give me 2 realistic CM names that can come in and take us to the next level and are better then Montolivo and Aquilani. And PLEASE, for the love of God and my sanity, DO NO mention Cesc, Iniesta or Xavi