Ah, so...well, that's understandable. Toni is good but not worth the time.

You're right, but I just wanted to clear out that there are no indications of him being a surplus or even a eventual departure. It's akll about Olic and Podolski right now. Maybe we're after Poldi?

If it's true, it's 2 seasons too late. Just like Zambrotta.

seriously. i do NOT want luca toni..if we had gotten him when left fiorentina that would have been a dream, and a different story. Now is not the time to pick him up, when he's about 1 season away from becoming a glorified jan koller. (sorry luca toni fans..i love the man, just don't think he's what we need)

if we buy a striker..it must be one in the 24-27 age range. actually, if we buy any strikers it is my strong opinion that it be one of, or BOTH: mario gomez (who has been prolific for 3 seasons, and has continued to this season) and/or karim benzema who is simply brilliant.

Pato, Benzema/Gomez, Sheva, Borriello. Now we're talking versatiliy/experience/youth/competition/class.

outside of dreamworld, i actually think our attack could do without any signings for the time being..

IMO the real noteworthy news of today is that after this wolfsburg draw, ancelotti has admitted to us being in a crisis - claiming that we don't have the personnel to play the way we want to play. ancelotti and berlu know the situation now, and milan will be retooling, guaranteed. I think the blind faith in the old guard is slowly waning..

MY DREAM SIGNINGS

thiago silva (x)
matteo brighi ( ) - flamini and brighi = the future DM dynamic duo
Sanatacroce/Ivanovic/Agger ( )

Haha. Have you been reading the Italian sports papers, vnata? There are Brighi rumors all over the place (accompanied, however, with Galliani saying that Milan wouldn't 'raid' Roma). The other names mentioned are Donadel in midfield (again) and a whole host of defenders. If we must take a danish defender, I'd honestly prefer Simon Kjaer, the kid from Palermo, over Agger. Agger has Scouser cooties. (Fishdoll keeps hoping that Secco will do Something Really Dumb and let Chiellini go, but that's pretty much not gonna happen. Even Secco isn't that crazy.)

I'd probably stop watching other teams play if we signed up both Gomez and Benzama. These two have been on my wish list for years. But I know, never gonna happen. Not in my lifetime, at least. We also had a sniff of a chance for say, Huntelaar, but didn't happen. We're pretty good with over 30 signings, so go figure!

GUYS we couldn't even beat WOLFSBURG...This is hard for me as a milanfan that milan is suffering..We've been suffering for quite sometime now (3-4 years). Because our management wouldn't help and satisfy us...I'm crying cuz this team isn't wat it was...Slow players, old players esp in defense...no hustle...no fight...I think that tis cuz milan players have achieved a lot..that's why they are playing how they're playing....i have no confidence in this team anymore...We need youth....buying new and young players shows results like in other teams..This isn't like before when milan's old players can still compete with the young ones..It's not the same...First of all, we need a consistent coach which we lack, New and young defenders..I mean not one or two, more like 4..also strikers...

Really, i'm really sad bout this and it ruins ma day..real talk...A high profiled team that u support messes up everytime..and i mean majority of the time...Get rid of favalli, maldini, emerson, inzaghi, senderos, kaladze, Janku doesn't really know how to defend..Instead of defending a shot, he covers his face (body), allowing the other team to shoot..pirlo can't defend and that is killing us big time

we need gourcuff, abate, zapata, alex de silva, Cigirani, paloschi, Agger, and Benzema...All these players wouldn't cost up to $140 millions...All these fresh blood would hustle for titles and most importantly change Carlo Ancelotti...I'm tired of supporting a team that loses and a team that knows the right things to do but would rather always hope for the better when the better times haven't come yet...All these players plus a new coach with new ideas would work out...For instance, look at Guardiola, he came with new ideas..when Barca struggled in a match, his tactic which i never believed could be used was used and barca won cuz of it...

I know this new player issue has been discussed before but why can't milan see all what the milanfans are talking about....3rd position and semifinal in champions league for barca was considered a bad season but with milan we've lived with that for years..If there's a morning that i wake up and these old players go away with new ones replacing them, that'll be d day..but who are we kidding..This is d longest speech i've given but that's how i feel..Change Carlo, even wen we win, its time for change..when will milan realise dis? GOD HELP MILAN

Let's sign Obama, he's change.

I won't gonna repeat myself on any of the matters I commented before.
Just mind that Wolfsburg is a very good Bundesliga team, and it isn't a shame to draw with them even on home soil. Of course, it wasn't a must-win match.

IMO finishing runners-up in a UEFA Cup group is a shame for Milan, Fillipo. considering we always used to top our CL groups easily.

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I'm not going to repeat myself anymore. I just have to say, people are not blind. Milan is in deep sh1t and everyone can see it. this is not how a club as big as Milan performs. I'm waiting for changes... a change of coach... a change of philosophy in the transfer markets. otherwise we will remain like this.

This morning's gossip in the Italian press seems to focus more on who the midfield replacement is likely to be. The current frontrunners mentioned are: Brighi (Roma), Palombo (Samp), Donadel (Fiorentina), Blasi (Napoli), Obodo (Udinese) and Nocerino (Palermo).

Wow.. I'm surprised goal.com hasn't come out saying Fabregas has finally had enough with the draw last week, and now wants to come to Milan. Especially coz he's friends with Flamini.

Or how about, since Scolari is going to be fired, Deco no longer sees Chelsea as a good place to be, and wants to come over and join old partner Ronaldinho.

When does crazy season start?

If we're looking for a good defender, why do we have to wait until summer? Santacroce and Zapata... wouldn't they leave their clubs for Milan if a big and tempting offer arrived? I hardly can believe they wouldn't. and I just named two. there are more than 2 good defenders in the world that could be useful for us!

It's madness to overlook our defensive problems is January transfer window. we must get a good defender!

Milan - Red Star 1:1; 1:1 (second round 88/89)
Milan - Aarau 1:0, 0:0 (first round 93/94)

1996/1997 - Milan finishing third in group C with 7 points, behind Porto (19) and Rosenborg (9)
1999/2000 - Milan finishing fourth in group H with 6 points, behind Chelsea (11), Hertha (8) and Galatasaray (7)
2000/2001 - Milan finishing third in group B second stage with 7 points, behind Deportivo and Galatasaray (both 10)

Milan-BvB 3:1; 0:4 (semi final 01/02)

Because January transfer window usually is a short-term window, which is used to bring instant solutions. It is madness to sell Santacroce or Zapata in the middle of the season. Would you do it?

We're having a difficult time finding a defender. IMO he doesn't need to be young. And who really can say Zapata and Santacroce are good? Did they owe Ibra? Stepped Del Piero? Did Zapata shine for Columbia? Do they play CL? Too many question marks.

I'm for the slow and efficient shopping when it comes to defenders. Not the Senderos moves.

I still think this Milan squad is more capable than finishing 2nd in a UEFA Cup group/getting eliminated from Coppa/trailing Inter by 9 points.



Is it madness to sell Santacroce in the middle of the season? of course! but we're not selling. we're buying and buying Santacroce is not a madness as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think we're having a difficult time finding good defenders. we don't want to find good defenders because we don't want to dig into our pockets. so far it has been the case but things could change in the summer.



I don't know much about Zapata but Santacroce is definitely good [I suggest you to watch some Napoli games].

Did he own Ibra? no, because he didn't play against Inter. but I remember he owned some of our players [including Dinho] when we hosted Napoli

Fishdoll is rather shocked to find himself agreeing with zd. He likes Santacroce too and would be thrilled to see him at Milan. (He doesn't think it likely Di Laurentiis would sell, however).

It's simple: we have to make an offer he can't refuse!

Haha. Even Fishdoll is cautious about messing with the Comorra, zd. They're a scary group.

Gee, it's not Championship Manager you know? I have to start negotiations, you have to do all the things to prepare such a move. What would that offer be? They'll never loose a key CB in middle of the season.

And I'm not so certain. I watched Napoli matches. He's good. But he wasn't tested on a high level yet.


I agree. The stats I pointed out were just a response to your suggestion we always finished first in group stages.

Ancelotti looks to bolster squad
AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti has called for winter reinforcements after his side's disappointing UEFA Cup draw with Wolfsburg on Wednesday.

Ancelotti: Wants new blood

The Wolves twice came from behind to snatch a 2-2 draw at the San Siro and seal top spot in Group E.
Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani revealed the Rossoneri are looking to bring in new players in the January transfer window, specifically a midfielder to replace Gennaro Gattuso who has been ruled out for the rest of the season.
And Ancelotti admits that cannot come soon enough for his injury-ravaged side.
"Considering the moment it seems opportune to me, even if my wish is to recuperate the injured players that I have now," he said. "We're going through a period which is very delicate.
"Things have become complicated because of injuries linked to completely random events and that penalises us a lot because we are forced to go out onto the pitch with a formation that is barely tested, barely united and I am forced to position players outside their normal role as happened (against Wolfsburg).
"Nevertheless this team has quality, therefore they will manage to score regardless of the difficulty of the moment.
"In defence, however, we have a few more problems. Forced to play with three strikers in the second half we didn't manage to fix our defensive line.
"Each player went onto the pitch with commitment and desire, but the fact that we didn't manage to play as a team put us in difficulty."
The draw meant that Milan finished second in the group and are now set to be pitted against one of the sides eliminated from the Champions League.
One of their possible opponents could be defending champions Zenit St Petersburg, but Ancelotti claims he is not worried about facing any side.
He added: "The team that we could meet in the last 32 are all sides of a medium level and we shouldn't be worried about the draw because in February we will certainly have a high rhythm."

from www.teamtalk.com

Since Marlon Brando is dead, I'm afraid this isn't possible.

neither was pato.

it's that sort of assumption which going to keep us in this ditch.

They want to make Napoli big again so there is no such offer. I mean there is, but it's not worth it...

Exactly

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Zd, it's very different to scout or even judge a young striker's ability and a defender's ability.

...But De Niro is alive!

That's one way to put it. Lol. Let's sign De Niro as our lead scout, he'll make offers other clubs can't refuse!

Fantastic!

Naah, Napoli already have Al and Jack. Even Bobby can't fight that.

And if they do refuse, he'll have Joe Pesci as his assistant, so he'll give other club managements a good beating. We can then suck up Chelsea, Barca and Madrid dry. Hehe, I'm an evil genius!

We're geniuses!
Why didn't Silvio & Galliani think of this before!

Evil geniuses, Trini. Evil.


Because they like to think they're De Niro and Galliani is Joe Pesci? Sorry to crush your dreams, Mr. B, but you're not. Better go talk to Mr. Niro's agent and arrange a meeting. As in now!

One serious question. do these things still happen in [Southern] Italy.. extensively I mean?


Dude, I wasn't that serious!



I personally am certain that Santacroce is a good defender. his style is strikingly like Nesta's!



I said we 'used to', not 'always'. we'd been topping our CL groups for more than six seasons in a row, even when we were in the same group as Barca and Madrid, right?



What about Don Silvio what Silvio wants Silvio gets, you know...



+1 (add Kaka to that too)

And Santacroce isn't exactly untested. he's considered by MANY to be one of Italy's best young defenders right now.



Problem is, Napoli need $$$ to become an even better club. they will have to sell one of their stars every now and then to invest on other good players, I think.

Do these things still happen? Yep, zd, they do. Why do you think there were fears of a cholera outbreak in Naples last year? The garbage companies (controlled by the Camorra) stopped picking up trash because they'd been banned from illegal dumping etc. There are also occasional nasty murders, etc. The Neapolitan mafia (the Camorra) and the Calabrese mafia ('ndragheta) are meaner and more dangerous than the Sicilian mafia (the cosa nostra).

Oh really?

Man I love Southern Italians it's like movies, mafia and other stuff.

Thanks for that.



I didn't mean we'd topped our CL groups ever since European Championship started back in the fifties!! I was talking about Carlo era - 2002-03 onwards. around 6 seasons in the first place.

I really don't know what you mean if you don't say it. I'm not inside your head,...yet.
And I didn't made a stat begining from the fifties. I was kind and started from 1988. Do y' wanna see the whole package?

It's all fun and games until you're the one suffering. Boy, I'd hate to live in Southern Italy. Visit it maybe, twice a year, but living there, I'd be very hard pressed to.

long story short, when my grandfather moved to canada it turned out he had the same name of a local mafia boss, giuseppe zappavigna, and they were constantly getting calls from the police, hit men, money launderers and mistresses until they found out it wasnt him years later the real giuseppe was murdered

a website is linking us with chelsea's alex can anyone confirm his eu status

@zd Try to find these, great albums... La Musica Della Mafia

The alex stories have been around a while, cmf, but I haven't seen anything of particular reliability yet. Who's talking about it now?

http://www.fansfc.com/chelseafootballclub/...p?newsid=194597

Appiah to Milan rumors allover now...

who is he

Appiah? Stephan Appiah from Ghana. Played for Parma and Juve.

I don't think it's all that reliable, cmf. could be wrong though.

he is free so wouldne be surprised if milan get him as the jan midfielder whihc we are being linked with

Just a quick story on the Southern Mafia thing......my friends live in Bari and they have a theatre there that dates back to the mid 1800's the Mafia blew it up for whatever reason so the local council decided to do some fund raising in order to restore it back to its former glories so a year of fund raising ensued until they met the required targets only for the local Mafia to say either you hand the money over or we'll wait till the restoration is complete and blow it up again...when we visited last year the theatre is still burnt out and no idea of when work will start....from that you can draw your own conclusions

Nocerino is a natural replacement for Gattuso, bring him in.

I honestly think Frank Rijkaard should replace Carlo Ancelotti with new players also replacing d old ones..Carlo hinted that he wants to quit milan for an African team..he should go ahead n do it..

Whats this news about Appiah being brought in? Chievo get him and loan him to us? is this credible

Appiah is a good player and getting him for free will not harm us in anyway. Plus it will invariably hasten Emersons departure