whoarethepatriots
Apr 19 2008, 03:17 PM
Poor Juve, they are so bitter at the supposed "injustice" they have become irrational. I think its just jealousy at the Milanese dominance at the moment
Milan and Inter have been big clubs for the last forty years and will be big clubs for the next forty years, minimum. We are not Parma, Lazio or Fiorentina, we do not suddenly cease to exist
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 03:23 PM
Mr. Blanc seems to have forgotten the existence of the Agnelli family too.
Locke Lamora
Apr 19 2008, 03:32 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Apr 19 2008, 03:17 PM)
Poor Juve, they are so bitter at the supposed "injustice" they have become irrational. I think its just jealousy at the Milanese dominance at the moment
Milan and Inter have been big clubs for the last forty years and will be big clubs for the next forty years, minimum. We are not Parma, Lazio or
Fiorentina, we do not suddenly cease to existThe table seems to disagree with Fiorentina having ceased to excist...but I agree with everything else you said.
Rossoneri7
Apr 19 2008, 03:39 PM
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Apr 19 2008, 05:32 PM)
The table seems to disagree with Fiorentina having ceased to excist...but I agree with everything else you said.
Oh, how so ?! Because in one of the worst seasons Milan has played in, probably in the past decade ?
whoarethepatriots
Apr 19 2008, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Apr 19 2008, 02:32 PM)
The table seems to disagree with Fiorentina having ceased to excist...but I agree with everything else you said.
Fiorentina were pretty pathetic until recently. boucning between the netherworlds of Serie B and C
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Apr 19 2008, 04:07 PM)
Fiorentina were pretty pathetic until recently. boucning between the netherworlds of Serie B and C
Do you even know why they went down to Serie C?
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 04:22 PM
Fiorentina have done a pretty darn good job coming back from the bankrupcy, I think. They moved back up to Serie A in a very short time and if they weren't ahead of Milan in the table, I'd really like them.
They were marvellously fun to watch in the days of Batigol and Rui Costa.
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 04:29 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 19 2008, 04:22 PM)
Fiorentina have done a pretty darn good job coming back from the bankrupcy, I think. They moved back up to Serie A in a very short time and if they weren't ahead of Milan in the table, I'd really like them.
They were marvellously fun to watch in the days of Batigol and Rui Costa.

kurtsimonw
Apr 19 2008, 05:07 PM
Roma-Livorno just kicked off.
Viola-Palermo (20:30 IT)
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 05:07 PM
Roma - Livorno just started
Lines up :
Roma :
Doni
Philippe Mexes
Max Tonetto
Cicinho
Juan
Simone Perrotta
David Pizarro
Daniele De Rossi
Rodrigo Taddei
Mirko Vucinic
Francesco Totti
Livorno :
Marco Amelia
Dario Knezevic
Matteo Melara
Fabio Galante
Giovanni Pasquale
Alessandro Grandoni
Daniele De Vezze
Filippini A.
Martin Bergvold
Nico Pulzetti
Francesco Tavano
Note that the suer complete midfielder isn't even on the bench, is he injured?
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 05:13 PM
First chance for Livorno (side netting) and a very close FK for Totti (very close)
Vai Roma!
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 05:17 PM
Yep, Aquilani is injured.
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 05:22 PM
Totti injured him self when hitting a FK in the penalty area, could be serious since it's his right knee!
What the hell, the channel I was watching switched to Man U game
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 05:23 PM
Plus it's in spanish
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 05:25 PM
Totti's right back on, though, so it can't have been too bad.
Edit: Yellow for Mexes so he misses the next game.
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 05:41 PM
Another good chance for Totti who is still holding his knee!
Edit. He went off on the "car" and doesn't seem very confident

Totti off - Mancini on
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 05:56 PM
Half time at the Olimpico Roma 0-0 Livorno.
La Roma needs a real in-box striker, Vucinic waisted already two chances, and Totti is off injured, wonder if they have what it takes to unlock the Livorno castle
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 06:00 PM
I wouldn't be too worried if Mancini were in any sort of form. That said...
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 06:16 PM
Great play by the romans and a huge miss by De Rossi!!
Goal di Vucinic 1-0 per la Roma

Edit. It's the copy of the first R99 goal for Milan
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 06:25 PM
The Rai commentator said that there's good news about Totti's injury, nothing serious!
Locke Lamora
Apr 19 2008, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 19 2008, 04:22 PM)
Fiorentina have done a pretty darn good job coming back from the bankrupcy, I think. They moved back up to Serie A in a very short time and if they weren't ahead of Milan in the table, I'd really like them.
Thanks Tennie, that was what I was trying to say.
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 06:44 PM
1-1 Diamanti great FK

10 mns to go with (the injury time)
Tadei off - Giuly on
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 06:55 PM
Great save from Amelia at the 93rd!!!
It's over FT. Roma 1-1 Livorno. La merda are officially champions of Italy
fahad
Apr 19 2008, 06:56 PM
man buy ameila
redbabies
Apr 19 2008, 07:19 PM
title race is over!
and TBH, I'm not that angry at Roma's draw.
I even hope Roma loose the next match too, and by the time we face Merda, I hope they will already be champions... it means an easier match for us.
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 19 2008, 07:19 PM)
title race is over!
and TBH, I'm not that angry at Roma's draw.
I even hope Roma loose the next match too, and by the time we face Merda, I hope they will already be champions...
it means an easier match for us.
I'm not sure about that, imagine a merda without any pressure, it could be devastating ... mouaaaaaaaaah
redbabies
Apr 19 2008, 07:47 PM
^^^
they're still merda

btw, FORZA PALERMO!!!!!!!!!!!!
kurtsimonw
Apr 19 2008, 07:48 PM
It can be a bad thing also. If Inter have already won the league by the time they play us, they have no pressure. When a team doesn't have any pressure of anything, the players can go out and enjoy themself, which could be trouble for us.
Zed.D
Apr 19 2008, 07:53 PM
We mock Inter all the time but let's face it, they're winning it deservedly. in fact Roma were never good enough to challenge them.
I really hope Serie A will be back to Milan vs Juve next season...
Rossoneri7
Apr 19 2008, 07:59 PM
La Viola and Palermo is on 0-0 at teh Stadio Franchi @ 30 mins of play
EDIT: Yikes, Donadel scores from right outside of the 18yarder
fahad
Apr 19 2008, 08:01 PM
damn
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 08:03 PM
It was an awfully pretty goal. (Donadel is a former Milan primavera, btw.)
redbabies
Apr 19 2008, 08:04 PM
We need a(n) (impossible) miracle!
dst
Apr 19 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 19 2008, 08:59 PM)
La Viola and Palermo is on 0-0 at teh Stadio Franchi @ 30 mins of play
EDIT: Yikes, Donadel scores from right outside of the 18yarder
Why did you have to comment on it?? Switch off immediately!
Fiorentina are a very good team! Every time I see them I admire them even more. You can see they are very well worked-on, very organized!
And of course the excuse of teams defending by numbers at San Siro is once again brought down. Palermo have done nothing but defend so far and Fiorentina also created a couple of great chances before the goal!
fahad
Apr 19 2008, 08:11 PM
palermo better after the goal
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 08:15 PM
Initial tests have shown a partial tear of the anterior cruciate ligament of Francesco Totti's right knee. Further tests will follow but depending on how bad it is, Totti could be out anywhere from 50 days to 5 months (if he needs surgery). Season over for him.
Rossoneri7
Apr 19 2008, 08:16 PM
La Viola are a very entertaining team .. What is more is that they are (finger crossed) gonna carry the Italian flag in the UEFA cup final
They have maintained 4th place and have done very well this season. They have a good coach and have a 'team'.
That said, I wouldn't compare them to Milan ... I mean when teams come to Milan they come to the San Siro and they play as if they are playing a Final. You see it on the field of play, the opposition give their heart to defend every ball and are very wary not to give Milan any time on the ball. That's the only way you can explain it dst, at least thats how I explain it to myself .. of course set aside all the criticism that has been written in this forum over the season against Milan.
dst
Apr 19 2008, 08:23 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 19 2008, 10:16 PM)
That said, I wouldn't compare them to Milan ... I mean when teams come to Milan they come to the San Siro and they play as if they are playing a Final. You see it on the field of play, the opposition give their heart to defend every ball and are very wary not to give Milan any time on the ball. That's the only way you can explain it dst, at least thats how I explain it to myself .. of course set aside all the criticism that has been written in this forum over the season against Milan.
Teams do defend against Inter too. And even if some of the goals they have scored should not have counted they do create many chances... we, on the contrary, create nothing!
Zed.D
Apr 19 2008, 08:30 PM
There's no doubt Milan were a weak team this season. they underperformed in every position: goalkeeper [=Dida], defenders [especially Kaladze], full backs, midfielders [Pirlo and Gattuso], and the strikers [except for Pato]. the lack of depth and injuries didn't help any. I don't know what's the debate for...
kurtsimonw
Apr 19 2008, 08:32 PM
The trouble is, when teams 'come to defend against us', we often lose! Now losing to a team that's just defending is horribly annoying!
Anyways, I hope Palermo do manage an equaliser, that'd really help us big time.
morgoth
Apr 19 2008, 08:34 PM
La viola is a very good team, the more I see of them the more I think they deserve to finish ahead of us, let's just face it they're better then us!
Totti's injury could be a huge problem for la Roma, not only on the pitch but also in the head, now la merda has only to win tomorrow and it will be over!
By the way, dst, to beat a compact defence you need speed, creativity and movements, we may have a great experience and creativity but what we lack to bring down those kind of defences is the speed in the execusion and the movements, have you seen how Fiorentina players combine between each other, that's what creates superiority against such a compact team.
mishie
Apr 19 2008, 08:40 PM
Totti's injury requires surgery and will be out for 6 months so basically handed the merda the title. looks like they need this consortium to take over quick so they can spend big in the summer
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 08:44 PM
Fiorentina - Palermo is getting a bit rough. Knees in the back, etc. 3 of the 4 Palermo defenders have cards (as does Amauri, who will sit out next week's game).
Zed.D
Apr 19 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (mishie @ Apr 19 2008, 11:10 PM)
Totti's injury requires surgery and will be out for 6 months so basically handed the merda the title. looks like they need this consortium to take over quick so they can spend big in the summer
6 months?
I wouldn't mind seeing one of those billionaires take over Roma.
dst
Apr 19 2008, 08:47 PM
QUOTE (morgoth @ Apr 19 2008, 10:34 PM)
By the way, dst, to beat a compact defence you need speed, creativity and movements, we may have a great experience and creativity but what we lack to bring down those kind of defences is the speed in the execusion and the movements, have you seen how Fiorentina players combine between each other, that's what creates superiority against such a compact team.
I have no doubt about it.
fahad
Apr 19 2008, 09:01 PM
gameover for palermo
fahad
Apr 19 2008, 09:01 PM
red card
Tennie
Apr 19 2008, 09:03 PM
Rinaudo sent off for yellow card accumulation. Bobo Vieri came >< close to scoring off the rebound of the resultant free kick.
Zed.D
Apr 19 2008, 09:04 PM
QUOTE (fahad @ Apr 19 2008, 11:31 PM)
Game over for Milan I'd say! La Viola are going to the CL and if you ask me, they deserve it more than us.
But the thought of Milan finally taking the league seriously is refreshing
fahad
Apr 19 2008, 09:05 PM
oh man
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