I think Heynckes is retiring.

No, he's going to Spain, probably Bilbao.

Or Milan.

Really? Any rumors about that one?

Nah, just me being silly.

I doubt it. He's a strong personality. He wouldn't be the subservient, "Mr. Galliani is a friend. Mr. Berlusconi is always there to guide us..." kind of mouthpiece. :-)

So we really are still spending silly money on wages according to this...

lol lol

So we have a sh!t team when you compare it to most of the others on the list yet we're still spending more then most of them

This piece from the guardian, paints the perfect portrait of how European dominance is shifting Clicky

Gotze to miss the final. seriously, who believes that it's because of injury?

I really wish Dortmund could **** on Bayern in the final and win the CL but sadly it's almost impossible. will keep my fingers crossed though...

Dortmund have a good record vs Bayern, we'll see.

UEFA should look into this themselves. Do Bayern have any right to dictate whether he can play or not?

Fifa should seriously put a stop to any signings occurring outside of the transfer window, this might not be official but they should not be allowed to negotiate players outside of allotted timeframes.

I think it's an injury guys, nothing more or less.

I don't think Bayern are dictating anything. if anything, it must be Dortmund and Klopp's decision not to play him in this game because of obvious reasons. if that's the case then missing this final will serve Gotze right. it's not a given Bayern will make another final any time soon (they could, but they also could not! no one knows).

Yeah, I think the same.

If it's really an injury, then karma bit him in the ***.

+1

Always a conspiracy eh

Nah, I doubt it, most likely Dortmond won't let him play as they don't want to risk unprofessionalism from Gotze.

Yep

But seriously, why risk such unprofessionalism by letting clubs make transfer deals before the season is through? Gotze missing the final means the match itself is going to be deprived of quality that a CL final deserves.

For the neutral that was the biggest sub-plot of the game, and people were curious to see how he'd do against his future team. For me personally this game holds pretty much zero interest as I abhor Bayern and was never really a fan of German football/teams.

Gotze doesn't make Dortmond any weaker if he doesn't play. They have a pretty good team and can shoot for the trophy based on their understanding of Hayden and German football. They have what it takes, and though Bayern are the favorites, Dortmond could very well do a Liverpool.

I think he's important. Maybe not as Gundogan or Lewandowski or Hummels, but he is a very important part of the puzzle that makes them so great.

Hayden?

Yeah, who's Hayden?

Brother of Raiden? From Mortal Kombat? In all probability R7 was referring to Bayern München manager Jupp Heynckes. And yes, I agree, this is one delicious match up. An irresistible force against the only club that can stop it. Kind of like if it were a Milan vs Roma CL final.

They should just make it so you can only offer for, and buy, players in transfer windows. These cheap unsettling tactics are wrong, whether it's a genuine injury or not.

Tbh i'm good with whoever wins this final, Though i hope it's borussia slightly more so cause well, It'd feel rather breaking the chain of the usual european elite winning it (man united - Real - Barcelona - Ac milan if you see a pattern), Bayern might just be having a mirror of cardiff city where they lose 1-2 finals (not sure how many cardiff lost but pretty sure more than 1) and like cardiff this might be their year.

One thing for sure, Gotze being out smells real real fishy.

Lambert supporting his old club! I didn't know he got MotM in the 97 final.



and how tall is Klopp!?

6 ft 3

About as tall as your lanky a$$

He's only 6 foot 3. It's insulting you think I'd even notice him from up here.

How tall are you, Kurt? I'm 6 ft 4.

Same here.

I'm 5 ft 8 :S !

That's such a big jinx..

Borussia Dortmund: Weidenfeller, Piszczek, Subotic, Hummels, Schmelzer, Bender, Gundogan, Blaszczykowski, Reus, Grosskreutz, Lewandowski.

Subs: Langerak, Kehl, Leitner, Sahin, Kirch, Schieber, Felipe Santana.


Bayern Munich: Neuer, Lahm, Boateng, Dante, Alaba, Javi Martinez, Schweinsteiger, Robben, Muller, Ribery, Mandzukic.

Subs: Starke, Van Buyten, Shaqiri, Pizarro, Gustavo, Gomez, Tymoschuk.

Thought that was going to be the killer blow then, great save. Dortmund needed to score with all that early pressure.

Very good game in the first half.

Robben's game is similar to the one he had against Spain in the WC final.

****.

Too bad, wanted Dortmund to win but seems like everything is going Bayern's way right now.

That's what happens when you have 4 defenders who can't defend!

1-1

GUNDOGAAAAAAAAAAAN!

It's all Bayern at the moment.

Game over.

Robben of all people.

Even his chokerness has its limits.

meh.

My opinion of Lahm and Schweinsteiger remain. Anonymous for the full 90. Reus is class though.