han2503
Aug 30 2012, 05:40 PM
Easiest group of the night: Man U's
CHU-LIP
Aug 30 2012, 05:40 PM
Ajax went to D, because Juve cant be in red (Milan already was),so instead of the Italy champs, we got the Dutch champs with the German champs, England champs and Spanish champs....
damn
kurtsimonw
Aug 30 2012, 05:40 PM
Who's the hostess?
Jack Bauer
Aug 30 2012, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2012, 08:21 PM)

Btw, what did I say about Man U always getting the easiest of draws?
Yeah, I noticed it too. Though last season even that didn't help them.
Fillipo Simone
Aug 30 2012, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 30 2012, 07:34 PM)

Still it would have been fun

You always ruin my Juve mood swings

That's my thing
Good draw, no BATE or Pilsen this year, but we should finish this one comfortably.
Poor Dortmund, a hell of a group with them, Ajax, City and Real.
Jack Bauer
Aug 30 2012, 05:43 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 29 2012, 05:31 PM)

Real
City
Juve
Dortmund
I almost guessed it
Danny
Aug 30 2012, 05:44 PM
Absolutely, well, not DELIGHTED but pretty pleased with our group. Could have been way worse.
Group of death actually nearly happened - more or less did. City, Real, Ajax and Dortmund. Some group.
As for us, qualification is an outside possibility. We'll see.
kurtsimonw
Aug 30 2012, 05:47 PM
Love Madrid's group, not often 4 actual Champions who deserve to be in the competition get drawn together.
Jack Bauer
Aug 30 2012, 05:50 PM
Spalletti's Zenit shouldn't be underestimated though. With the way our team look now, them finishing first won't be a huge surprise. But, yeah, we dodged a big bullet with City going to Real's group.
X-Offender
Aug 30 2012, 05:53 PM
Really good draw. No excuses if we don't pass it. I'll go as far as saying that first place is within our reach.
But damn, how lucky ManU are!
servbot
Aug 30 2012, 05:55 PM
OK, money for reaching knockout stage is pretty much in the bag, so Galliani can go sign Kaka...
Zed.D
Aug 30 2012, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (servbot @ Aug 30 2012, 10:25 PM)

OK, money for reaching knockout stage is pretty much in the bag, so Galliani can go sign Kaka...
Or you could say we won't sign anyone because our group is easy and we can reach our objective of reaching the first KO stage anyway now.
Jack Bauer
Aug 30 2012, 06:01 PM
Congrats to Iniesta. Quite a surprise.
Danny
Aug 30 2012, 06:06 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 30 2012, 07:01 PM)

Congrats to Iniesta. Quite a surprise.
I hate Barcelona and I hate Messi. But I have ALWAYS rated Xavi and Iniesta and I think Iniesta's getting credit he deserves at long last.
Would have rather it had been Ronaldo but I just don't think he'll ever be favoured by journos.
Danny
Aug 30 2012, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 30 2012, 06:50 PM)

Spalletti's Zenit shouldn't be underestimated though. With the way our team look now, them finishing first won't be a huge surprise. But, yeah, we dodged a big bullet with City going to Real's group.
Zenit will be tough, but some of the other possibilities in Pot 2 were worse.
I'm happy with second place. Qualification is all I want. This club needs it.
Jack Bauer
Aug 30 2012, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 30 2012, 09:06 PM)

I hate Barcelona and I hate Messi. But I have ALWAYS rated Xavi and Iniesta and I think Iniesta's getting credit he deserves at long last.
Would have rather it had been Ronaldo but I just don't think he'll ever be favoured by journos.
Well, I guess The Euros had a big impact on the decision. Xavi should have won it few years ago as well.
They picked him before in 07-08 when he really deseved it. About last season, it could have been either one of the 3.
Milan Are Brilliant
Aug 30 2012, 06:25 PM
Congrats to Iniesta. Unlucky to Ronaldo, couldn't have really done much more to win it but we know how these things go.
Fillipo Simone
Aug 30 2012, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Aug 30 2012, 08:01 PM)

Congrats to Iniesta. Quite a surprise.
+1
X-Offender
Aug 30 2012, 07:43 PM
Schedule:
18 September: Milan - Anderlecht
3 October: Zenit - Milan
24 October: Malaga - Milan
6 November: Milan - Malaga
21 November: Anderlecht - Milan
4 December: Milan - Zenit
First and last games at home, good.
Fillipo Simone
Aug 30 2012, 08:59 PM
Very good indeed. Lucky draw.
Rossoneri7
Aug 30 2012, 09:33 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 30 2012, 10:43 PM)

Schedule:
18 September: Milan - Anderlecht
3 October: Zenit - Milan
24 October: Malaga - Milan
6 November: Milan - Malaga
21 November: Anderlecht - Milan
4 December: Milan - Zenit
First and last games at home, good.
Malaga scare me. Zenit and Anderlecht know they stand a chance against this Milan with or without Kaka. Also, not sure about the weather in Belgium when we face them.
Yes it is an easy draw on paper, and considering the quality of opposition in comparison to what we might have been paired with, then yes there is light at the end of that tunnel ... Just depends on when Allegri can get this team to tick with a new personality.
Highly unlikely, but fingers crossed something shady is going on at via Turati.
arivanjj
Aug 30 2012, 11:52 PM
kurtsimonw
Aug 31 2012, 12:10 AM
Gila's dive.
Fillipo Simone
Aug 31 2012, 12:49 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 31 2012, 02:10 AM)

Gila's dive.

Gila>>>>Pazzini
Ry4n
Aug 31 2012, 12:54 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 31 2012, 04:49 AM)

Gila>>>>Pazzini
So worth it !
arivanjj
Aug 31 2012, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 31 2012, 10:49 AM)

Gila>>>>Pazzini
??
just saw that dortmund is at home to man city on the last match day. im feeling an upset already
Fillipo Simone
Aug 31 2012, 11:13 AM
Gila is and always will be better then Pazzini, even when it comes to diving.
arivanjj
Aug 31 2012, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 31 2012, 09:13 PM)

Gila is and always will be better then Pazzini, even when it comes to diving.
i admit i havent seen pazzini play much but i've got a scar on my heart from watching gila play for us Fillipo! a SCAR!

.. by far the most frustrating player i have ever watched.
Fillipo Simone
Aug 31 2012, 12:32 PM
Yeah, he was frustrating. But the source of this frustration was that we all knew and saw how good he could have been.
X-Offender
Aug 31 2012, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 31 2012, 01:13 PM)

Gila is and always will be better then Pazzini, even when it comes to diving.
+1
At least the Gila before Fiorentina fell apart.
kurtsimonw
Aug 31 2012, 07:54 PM
Falcao 1-0 Atletico completely dominating early on.
CHU-LIP
Aug 31 2012, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 31 2012, 09:54 PM)

Falcao 1-0 Atletico completely dominating early on.
Make that 2.
kurtsimonw
Aug 31 2012, 08:06 PM
Falcao is special.
milanbuf88
Aug 31 2012, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 31 2012, 04:06 PM)

Falcao is special.
Very. I'm surprised no one broke the bank snatching him away.
kurtsimonw
Aug 31 2012, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Aug 31 2012, 09:08 PM)

Very. I'm surprised no one broke the bank snatching him away.
He'd cost too much. Atletico signed him for 40m. You'd have to imagine he'd cost Kaka' money now.
Fillipo Simone
Aug 31 2012, 08:29 PM
And he makes the third as well.
kurtsimonw
Aug 31 2012, 08:33 PM
Amazing.
I bet the Terry haters are in tears, no Terry and Chelsea get destroyed down the middle.
han2503
Aug 31 2012, 09:01 PM
When Luiz has a stinker, he has one of epic proportions.
So undisciplined
Zed.D
Aug 31 2012, 09:24 PM
Falcao is really special...
kurtsimonw
Aug 31 2012, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 31 2012, 10:01 PM)

When Luiz has a stinker, he has one of epic proportions.
So undisciplined
Worst signing in history? He's barely a £2m player, forget £20m+.
Fillipo Simone
Aug 31 2012, 10:34 PM
Maybe not the worst, but still...ouch.
Jack Bauer
Sep 3 2012, 06:19 PM
Multiple reports that Hulk has been sold to Zenit for about 50m. Not confirmed yet.
Fillipo Simone
Sep 3 2012, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 3 2012, 08:19 PM)

Multiple reports that Hulk has been sold to Zenit for about 50m. Not confirmed yet.
Wouldn't be surprised...
acid911
Sep 3 2012, 06:39 PM
So Falcao to Chelsea, and Hulk to Zenit. Both 50m plus transfers.

Sweet. Let's kill football, and quick!
Can anyone find from a reliable source how much Porto have made over the past 10 years?
X-Offender
Sep 3 2012, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 3 2012, 08:47 PM)

Can anyone find from a reliable source how much Porto have made over the past 10 years?
http://portugoal.net/index.php/more-fc-por...-making-machineThe article is from 2009. If you also count Falcao (€45 million), Hulk (€50 million), Guarin and Alvaro Pereira (€23 million), amongst others, you reach an estimate of over €418 million in the last 8 years.
Danny
Sep 3 2012, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 3 2012, 07:39 PM)

So Falcao to Chelsea, and Hulk to Zenit. Both 50m plus transfers.

Sweet. Let's kill football, and quick!
Falcao is, dare I say it, worth more than 50M. He is simply stupidly good, and if he keeps up the form of the past 2 or 3 seasons he could become the greatest striker of all time.
He has made world class teams looks absolutely ordinary and scores on all occasions. 30 in 37 for AM is a quite incredible return, as good as Messi or Ronaldo in a way inferior team. His record for Porto was just as good.
He is incredible. If he was a woman I'd marry him. Hell I'll marry him anyway.
X-Offender
Sep 3 2012, 07:27 PM
Milan CL list for the group stages:
Abate, Abbiati, Acerbi, Ambrosini, Amelia, Antonini, Boateng, Bonera, Constant, De Jong, De Sciglio, Robinho, El Shaarawy, Emanuelson, Flamini, Bojan Krkic, Mesbah, Mexes, Montolivo, Nocerino, Pazzini, Pato, Gabriel, Yepes, Zapata.
B-list: Carmona, Ganz, Narduzzo.
Out Traoré and Niang.
Jack Bauer
Sep 3 2012, 07:32 PM
Too bad Mesbah is there. I don't want to see him anywhere near playing for us again.
Jack Bauer
Sep 3 2012, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 3 2012, 09:19 PM)

Multiple reports that Hulk has been sold to Zenit for about 50m. Not confirmed yet.
Official. They also might buy Witsel for 30m.
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