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Fillipo Simone
Great. We'll enjoy the shows Bonera will give us as RB.
X-Offender
NO!!! sad.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 15 2012, 02:38 PM) *
Great. We'll enjoy the shows Bonera will give us as RB.


Allegri tried today Antonini as RB.
Zed.D


Will someone please kidnap these people?
han2503
Another muscle problem. Why am I not surprised....
X-Offender
If I was Galliani, instead of focusing on signing players this summer, I'd concentrate on trying to understand where all these injuries come from. The preparation, training methods and medical staff need to be thoroughly evaluated. IT'S BECOME UNBEARABLE!!!
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2012, 06:09 PM) *
If I was Galliani, instead of focusing on signing players this summer, I'd concentrate on trying to understand where all these injuries come from. The preparation, training methods and medical staff need to be thoroughly evaluated. IT'S BECOME UNBEARABLE!!!

100% with you

I'd seriously be happy if we did not sign anyone but know for sure that this situation has been taken care of
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 15 2012, 08:14 PM) *
100% with you

I'd seriously be happy if we did not sign anyone but know for sure that this situation has been taken care of


Agreed. If I was to choose between new signings or a fully fit squad, I'd easily pick the second.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2012, 10:34 PM) *
Agreed. If I was to choose between new signings or a fully fit squad, I'd easily pick the second.

Yep, if we'd had a fully fit squad this season we'd have ran away with the Scudetto. It says a lot when a mediocre team like Juventus is still breathing down your neck at this point in the season.

The contributions from Pato, Robinho and Cassano from last season have been sorely missed. And then there are all the issues with the midfield, I wouldn't know where to start with that.

I'd be happy with a free Montolivo and Astori next summer. As long as a complete overhaul in the medical department is made
TriniKing_CE
Since we can't rely on a genie guaranteeing us a fully fit squad.

I want some new blood in our much needed areas.
X-Offender
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 16 2012, 01:49 AM) *
Since we can't rely on a genie guaranteeing us a fully fit squad.

I want some new blood in our much needed areas.


Merkel and Strasser were new blood, and look where they are now. Nope, gotta fix these injuries problem. New players won't solve anything. They'll just get injured too.
Bluesummers
It could be the diet. Theres several articles in north america on the study of nutrition and how it can lead to or prevent injuries from occuring.
han2503
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 16 2012, 01:49 AM) *
Since we can't rely on a genie guaranteeing us a fully fit squad.

I want some new blood in our much needed areas.

We already have a very large squad, and techinically speaking we should have had 2 first 11 sides that can be competitive. Yet ou first choice players are injured as well as their backups.

No, this issue should be the first item on the to-do list. We simply cannot go into next season expecting the same types of problems.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2012, 02:07 AM) *
Merkel and Strasser were new blood, and look where they are now. Nope, gotta fix these injuries problem. New players won't solve anything. They'll just get injured too.

Agreed. Don't forget Maxi Lopez as well who hasn't had a long term injury in I don't know how long, he comes to Milan, and 2 weeks later he's out for the count. Pirlo spent last season out injured, goes to Juve and hasn't missed a game unless it was because of suspension.

I would gaurantee that a player like Pato would most likely stay fit for longer stretches is he were to change teams. His issues started about 3 seasons ago, before that he was one of the least injured players on the team.

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 16 2012, 04:57 AM) *
It could be the diet. Theres several articles in north america on the study of nutrition and how it can lead to or prevent injuries from occuring.

I think the diet plans have been kept the same. It's the medical staff that has been changed a couple of times in recent years, and they have co-incided with all of these injuries. Last season wasn't as bad, but let's not forget that at one point we were playing Thiago in midfield, that;s how dire the situation was at one point last season as well.
X-Offender
This situation started when Allegri came in. Under Leo we didn't have so many injuries. And they both employed different preparations and training methods. Leo focused more on training with the ball, Allegri's is more physical, and perhaps that's why we have so many muscular injuries. Someone must look into it.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2012, 12:39 PM) *
This situation started when Allegri came in. Under Leo we didn't have so many injuries. And they both employed different preparations and training methods. Leo focused more on training with the ball, Allegri's is more physical, and perhaps that's why we have so many muscular injuries. Someone must look into it.

Many coaches take a more physical approach to training, that should not mean that suddenly the entire squad should break down
William405
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2012, 01:39 PM) *
This situation started when Allegri came in. Under Leo we didn't have so many injuries. And they both employed different preparations and training methods. Leo focused more on training with the ball, Allegri's is more physical, and perhaps that's why we have so many muscular injuries. Someone must look into it.


same could be said about Conte.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 16 2012, 12:53 PM) *
Many coaches take a more physical approach to training, that should not mean that suddenly the entire squad should break down

I remember Ottmar Hitzfelds drills used to impact Bayerns team a lot.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 16 2012, 08:11 PM) *
I remember Ottmar Hitzfelds drills used to impact Bayerns team a lot.


*Hitzfeld's, Bayern's

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X-Offender
Boateng is getting better, should be ready for Roma.

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Zed.D
LOL, what a joke!

Forget about Roma, HAVE HIM READY FOR BARCA realmad.gif
han2503
First it's Lecce, then it's Parma but he won't play as a precaution, now he's going to miss another Serie A game plus 2 huge cup games against Juve and Barca. Just ridiculous
acid911
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 17 2012, 05:06 AM) *
Boateng is getting better, should be ready for Roma.

Getting better, is he now. dry.gif mad.gif You had me till should. Like Fillipo said, who cares now. It's a stinking revolving door now, anyone that is ready can come and play any match, get injured, and come back again after another few weeks, or months. I don't think Milanlab should even bother stating their timeline, it does not matter.
Zed.D
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 17 2012, 03:17 PM) *
First it's Lecce, then it's Parma but he won't play as a precaution, now he's going to miss another Serie A game plus 2 huge cup games against Juve and Barca. Just ridiculous

Don't we play Roma before Barca?
acid911
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Mar 17 2012, 04:32 PM) *
Don't we play Roma before Barca?

Yeah, it was scheduled for the 25th of this month, they moved it up to 24th. unsure.gif Due to our CL match!
han2503
Isn't the Roma game sandwiched between the Barca games?

EDIT: Sorry, my mistake I thought it was on week 30 in the league, but it's next week.

Well they always said that he'd miss the Parma game as a precaution but it's still BS that he'll miss the Juve game
X-Offender
No Boateng, no Coppa final.
William405
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 17 2012, 04:47 PM) *
No Boateng, no Coppa final.


We still kicked their *** with Emmanuelson,it isn't impossible.
X-Offender
QUOTE (William405 @ Mar 17 2012, 03:53 PM) *
We still kicked their *** with Emmanuelson,it isn't impossible.


Playing at their home will be much more difficult.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (William405 @ Mar 17 2012, 03:53 PM) *
We still kicked their *** with Emmanuelson,it isn't impossible.

Yet, the match ended up 1-1. And their now with a goal and home advantage.
X-Offender
We need to score two goals or more, and concede only one at max. Very difficult. That's why we need our best players out there. Mexes, Van Bommel, Aquilani, Boateng, Ibra, Binho...
X-Offender
Boateng-Ibra-Tevez will do wonders. And with Cassano and Binho as subs, our attack will be fearsome.
X-Offender
Allegri: "Boateng is the closest to recovering. Merkel needs some more time. Seedorf played an hour with the Primavera on Saturday. Robinho won't be available for Juventus".

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Everyone's being cautious for the Barça game. Allegri knows very well that the only way to bear them is to play with our best possible line-up.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 04:20 PM) *
Allegri: "Boateng is the closest to recovering. Merkel needs some more time. Seedorf played an hour with the Primavera on Saturday. Robinho won't be available for Juventus".

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Everyone's being cautious for the Barça game. Allegri knows very well that the only way to bear them is to play with our best possible line-up.

I hope that they do not sacrifice the Roma game for it! It's far more important.

Anyone has any word on whether VB can play against Juve
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2012, 05:48 PM) *
I hope that they do not sacrifice the Roma game for it! It's far more important.

Anyone has any word on whether VB can play against Juve


Not in a million years is Roma more important than Barça. Even if our chances ouf beating them are very slim, you cannot put a league game ahead of such an epic clash.

No idea about van Bommel.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 05:53 PM) *
Not in a million years is Roma more important than Barça. Even if our chances ouf beating them are very slim, you cannot put a league game ahead of such an epic clash.

No idea about van Bommel.

For me it's more important as losing the 4 point gap would make it difficuluilt for us especially if we get KO'd of the CL on top of that.

They're both hugely important games, but not playing an important player because Barca are a few days away would be stupid
X-Offender
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2012, 06:16 PM) *
For me it's more important as losing the 4 point gap would make it difficuluilt for us especially if we get KO'd of the CL on top of that.

They're both hugely important games, but not playing an important player because Barca are a few days away would be stupid


For you, that is. But I highly doubt any of the players care about the Roma game more than for the Barça one. The pressure, importance and prestige are too big.
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2012, 10:16 PM) *
For me it's more important as losing the 4 point gap would make it difficuluilt for us especially if we get KO'd of the CL on top of that.

It's 3 point gap, man. innocent.gif unsure.gif It won't come to that if we somehow end up with same points, because of the head-to-head, they'll give the title to Juventus. At most we can fudge up one match in the league. That is unless, Juventus drop a few points as well. Even if we draw one, and they don't, it'll start getting too close for comfort.

That's why I want to see either Napoli or inter putting Juventus at their place. The sooner, the better!
d'Arc.LP
Juventus got a record to break. More draws will come for them. And I don't understand all this sacrifice thing. We have a squad with 35 players and even though 11 of them are injured/suspended we still have a good squad, especially knowing that most of them, 5-6 players will return within 10 days.

The derby against Roma will not be decisive and we can win against them without sending in the best squad. But I strongly think that for the sake of Italy's coefficient, the game against Roma will be re-scheduled.
acid911
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 19 2012, 02:25 AM) *
But I strongly think that for the sake of Italy's coefficient, the game against Roma will be re-scheduled.

It already is. unsure.gif It was scheduled for 25th, they moved it up one day to 24th. Sure, I won't mind playing it a month late, but chances for that happening are really slim.
X-Offender
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 18 2012, 10:25 PM) *
The derby against Roma will not be decisive and we can win against them without sending in the best squad. But I strongly think that for the sake of Italy's coefficient, the game against Roma will be re-scheduled.


Since when is Milan-Roma a derby? blink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 18 2012, 10:08 PM) *
It's 3 point gap, man. innocent.gif unsure.gif It won't come to that if we somehow end up with same points, because of the head-to-head, they'll give the title to Juventus. At most we can fudge up one match in the league. That is unless, Juventus drop a few points as well. Even if we draw one, and they don't, it'll start getting too close for comfort.

That's why I want to see either Napoli or inter putting Juventus at their place. The sooner, the better!

It's still 4 points. they'll have to get 4 points on us to be level on points.

I don't think we'll be giving our lead away, but the Roma game is essential in acheiving that.

I have a feeling that Inter will hold them to a draw. Do what they did to us by sitting back for the 90 minutes and get a point off them. Ranieri is great at doing that
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 03:28 AM) *
It's still 4 points. they'll have to get 4 points on us to be level on points.

I know, and they pretty much can. tongue.gif When you have 30 odd points to play with, anything can happen. My only solace is that they do have some really, really tough matches, and we've put a lot of our tough ones behind. Plus, we may, just may get a lot of our injured soldiers back again. So as of this writing, I am fairly, fairly confident.

But just like with Real Madrid today, nothing is certain. We do keep a lot of 1-0 up until the hour mark, so.
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 18 2012, 11:48 PM) *
I know, and they pretty much can. tongue.gif When you have 30 odd points to play with, anything can happen. My only solace is that they do have some really, really tough matches, and we've put a lot of our tough ones behind. Plus, we may, just may get a lot of our injured soldiers back again. So as of this writing, I am fairly, fairly confident.

But just like with Real Madrid today, nothing is certain. We do keep a lot of 1-0 up until the hour mark, so.

30 points is still a big amount to play with agreed.

But imo if we get past the next handful of games (still retaining a significant lead of course), we can be very confident of winning this thing. That's why I count the Roma game as crucial, because if Juve win and we lose points in that than we'll put ourselves in a right old mess. Juve, Roma, Barca. Those are 3 huge games that we have to play in a matter of a few days. Something has to give and we're seemingly not going to be getting anyone back before the Barca game (maybe Robs and Prince but even they are still big doubts). I can't see how we're going to cope with that since we can't actually rotate the team given the injuries.

I'm thinking, if Boateng and Robinho are back by the Roma game we could go for these 3 formations for the 3 games. Also VB could still not be ready for Juve as well

Juve:
Antonini--Mexes--Thiago--Mesbah
Aqui--VB/Ambro--Nocerino
Urby
Maxi--Ibra

Roma:
Antonini--Mexes--Thiago--Mesbah
Urby--VB--Noce/Sully
Boateng
Robinho--Ibra

Barca:
Zambro/Bonera--Mexes--Thiago--Antonini
Aqui--Ambro--Nocerino
Boateng
Ibra--Robs


That's as much lee-way as we can have in terms of resting some players. Maybe give Nocerino a rest in the Roma game if Boateng and Robs are back so we can push Urby back in midfield. Obviosuly Ambro can't play the Roma game as we need him as fresh as possible for Barca. While a game under their belt will do Boateng and Robinho some good, so hoefully they'll be back by the Roma game
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:03 AM) *
30 points is still a big amount to play with agreed.

Yeah, even if you win 7 games, you get 21 points, comfortably. smile.gif Still leaves 9, which can crucially go either way. Good thing is that we're ahead of them at this point in time, thanks to the last couple of matches that Juventus drew after our match with them. Had they won, it would have been fire in heaven.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:03 AM) *
That's as much lee-way as we can have in terms of resting some players. Maybe give Nocerino a rest in the Roma game if Boateng and Robs are back so we can push Urby back in midfield. Obviosuly Ambro can't play the Roma game as we need him as fresh as possible for Barca. While a game under their belt will do Boateng and Robinho some good, so hoefully they'll be back by the Roma game

True. dry.gif Silva, along with Nocerino and Van Bommel get no rest at all. sad.gif Whatsoever. Thiago I can understand, and he probably can take it, Bommel not so much as this age, but he's dragging along. Nocerino is probably one guy who has played the most minutes (not just matches) this season. He deserves a break.

PS. Define hoefully, please?! tongue.gif biggrin.gif
han2503
QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 19 2012, 12:12 AM) *
Yeah, even if you win 7 games, you get 21 points, comfortably. smile.gif Still leaves 9, which can crucially go either way. Good thing is that we're ahead of them at this point in time, thanks to the last couple of matches that Juventus drew after our match with them. Had they won, it would have been fire in heaven.


True. dry.gif Silva, along with Nocerino and Van Bommel get no rest at all. sad.gif Whatsoever. Thiago I can understand, and he probably can take it, Bommel not so much as this age, but he's dragging along. Nocerino is probably one guy who has played the most minutes (not just matches) this season. He deserves a break.

PS. Define hoefully, please?! tongue.gif biggrin.gif

It's "hoe-fully" I can't define it for you, look it up on urban dictionary happy.gif
acid911
QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:16 AM) *
It's "hoe-fully" I can't define it for you, look it up on urban dictionary

I'm too frightened to. Honestly. unsure.gif laugh.gif Besides, forget dictionaries, I've got something better for you:

10 Words You Need to Stop Misspelling
X-Offender
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.
TriniKing_CE
I like your thinking behind the formation Xoff, but like you said with such a big risk to be taken in such an important game, I can hardly see Allegri looking it to try it.

But just imagine if he were to use it an obtain a positive result with it against the mighty Barcelona. EPIC! cool.gif

Allegri would definitely deserve some praises.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 09:26 PM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.


I'd love that formation. Best way to get all of our difference makers on the pitch and avoid using the chokers.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 10:59 PM) *
Since when is Milan-Roma a derby? blink.gif


It always has been. I remember the fuss about this game when we used to suck their balls in San Siro and Olimpic stadium too. Just so they're 6th now, doesn't mean it's not a derby. Inter is 7nth but it's still a derby.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 02:26 AM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.


That's what I think too. 2 days ago I wrote a piece for my site http://acmilan-shqip.org/sq/lajme/takohemi...arcelonen-prap/
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