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post Mar 18 2012, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 18 2012, 10:08 PM) *
It's 3 point gap, man. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) It won't come to that if we somehow end up with same points, because of the head-to-head, they'll give the title to Juventus. At most we can fudge up one match in the league. That is unless, Juventus drop a few points as well. Even if we draw one, and they don't, it'll start getting too close for comfort.

That's why I want to see either Napoli or inter putting Juventus at their place. The sooner, the better!

It's still 4 points. they'll have to get 4 points on us to be level on points.

I don't think we'll be giving our lead away, but the Roma game is essential in acheiving that.

I have a feeling that Inter will hold them to a draw. Do what they did to us by sitting back for the 90 minutes and get a point off them. Ranieri is great at doing that
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post Mar 18 2012, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 03:28 AM) *
It's still 4 points. they'll have to get 4 points on us to be level on points.

I know, and they pretty much can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) When you have 30 odd points to play with, anything can happen. My only solace is that they do have some really, really tough matches, and we've put a lot of our tough ones behind. Plus, we may, just may get a lot of our injured soldiers back again. So as of this writing, I am fairly, fairly confident.

But just like with Real Madrid today, nothing is certain. We do keep a lot of 1-0 up until the hour mark, so.
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 18 2012, 11:48 PM) *
I know, and they pretty much can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) When you have 30 odd points to play with, anything can happen. My only solace is that they do have some really, really tough matches, and we've put a lot of our tough ones behind. Plus, we may, just may get a lot of our injured soldiers back again. So as of this writing, I am fairly, fairly confident.

But just like with Real Madrid today, nothing is certain. We do keep a lot of 1-0 up until the hour mark, so.

30 points is still a big amount to play with agreed.

But imo if we get past the next handful of games (still retaining a significant lead of course), we can be very confident of winning this thing. That's why I count the Roma game as crucial, because if Juve win and we lose points in that than we'll put ourselves in a right old mess. Juve, Roma, Barca. Those are 3 huge games that we have to play in a matter of a few days. Something has to give and we're seemingly not going to be getting anyone back before the Barca game (maybe Robs and Prince but even they are still big doubts). I can't see how we're going to cope with that since we can't actually rotate the team given the injuries.

I'm thinking, if Boateng and Robinho are back by the Roma game we could go for these 3 formations for the 3 games. Also VB could still not be ready for Juve as well

Juve:
Antonini--Mexes--Thiago--Mesbah
Aqui--VB/Ambro--Nocerino
Urby
Maxi--Ibra

Roma:
Antonini--Mexes--Thiago--Mesbah
Urby--VB--Noce/Sully
Boateng
Robinho--Ibra

Barca:
Zambro/Bonera--Mexes--Thiago--Antonini
Aqui--Ambro--Nocerino
Boateng
Ibra--Robs


That's as much lee-way as we can have in terms of resting some players. Maybe give Nocerino a rest in the Roma game if Boateng and Robs are back so we can push Urby back in midfield. Obviosuly Ambro can't play the Roma game as we need him as fresh as possible for Barca. While a game under their belt will do Boateng and Robinho some good, so hoefully they'll be back by the Roma game
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:03 AM) *
30 points is still a big amount to play with agreed.

Yeah, even if you win 7 games, you get 21 points, comfortably. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Still leaves 9, which can crucially go either way. Good thing is that we're ahead of them at this point in time, thanks to the last couple of matches that Juventus drew after our match with them. Had they won, it would have been fire in heaven.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:03 AM) *
That's as much lee-way as we can have in terms of resting some players. Maybe give Nocerino a rest in the Roma game if Boateng and Robs are back so we can push Urby back in midfield. Obviosuly Ambro can't play the Roma game as we need him as fresh as possible for Barca. While a game under their belt will do Boateng and Robinho some good, so hoefully they'll be back by the Roma game

True. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Silva, along with Nocerino and Van Bommel get no rest at all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Whatsoever. Thiago I can understand, and he probably can take it, Bommel not so much as this age, but he's dragging along. Nocerino is probably one guy who has played the most minutes (not just matches) this season. He deserves a break.

PS. Define hoefully, please?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 19 2012, 12:12 AM) *
Yeah, even if you win 7 games, you get 21 points, comfortably. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Still leaves 9, which can crucially go either way. Good thing is that we're ahead of them at this point in time, thanks to the last couple of matches that Juventus drew after our match with them. Had they won, it would have been fire in heaven.


True. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Silva, along with Nocerino and Van Bommel get no rest at all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Whatsoever. Thiago I can understand, and he probably can take it, Bommel not so much as this age, but he's dragging along. Nocerino is probably one guy who has played the most minutes (not just matches) this season. He deserves a break.

PS. Define hoefully, please?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's "hoe-fully" I can't define it for you, look it up on urban dictionary (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:16 AM) *
It's "hoe-fully" I can't define it for you, look it up on urban dictionary

I'm too frightened to. Honestly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Besides, forget dictionaries, I've got something better for you:

10 Words You Need to Stop Misspelling
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post Mar 19 2012, 02:26 AM
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What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.
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post Mar 19 2012, 03:14 AM
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I like your thinking behind the formation Xoff, but like you said with such a big risk to be taken in such an important game, I can hardly see Allegri looking it to try it.

But just imagine if he were to use it an obtain a positive result with it against the mighty Barcelona. EPIC! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Allegri would definitely deserve some praises.
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post Mar 19 2012, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 09:26 PM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.


I'd love that formation. Best way to get all of our difference makers on the pitch and avoid using the chokers.
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post Mar 19 2012, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 10:59 PM) *
Since when is Milan-Roma a derby? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


It always has been. I remember the fuss about this game when we used to suck their balls in San Siro and Olimpic stadium too. Just so they're 6th now, doesn't mean it's not a derby. Inter is 7nth but it's still a derby.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 02:26 AM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.


That's what I think too. 2 days ago I wrote a piece for my site http://acmilan-shqip.org/sq/lajme/takohemi...arcelonen-prap/

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 02:26 AM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.

That's great, and we'd still have two games to practice with it (in theory), too bad we don't have the players to play it with Nesta and Abate certainly out and Boateng still unsure.

I just posted something in the other thread about a 3 man defensive line if Nesta were to be fit. Your formation could easily switch into that state while we're defending

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 19 2012, 07:24 AM) *
It always has been. I remember the fuss about this game when we used to suck their balls in San Siro and Olimpic stadium too. Just so they're 6th now, doesn't mean it's not a derby. Inter is 7nth but it's still a derby.



That's what I think too. 2 days ago I wrote a piece for my site http://acmilan-shqip.org/sq/lajme/takohemi...arcelonen-prap/

It's still not a derby, just like a Real-Barca game is not a derby. A derby is when teams from the same City play against each other
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 11:28 AM) *
It's still not a derby, just like a Real-Barca game is not a derby. A derby is when teams from the same City play against each other


Yep, or when teams from the same region, like Catania-Palermo etc. That's what's called a derby. Milan-Roma have nothing in common to be called a derby.

Back on topic, Allegri in his press conference today said that Mexes and Seedorf are recovered for tomorrow, whilst Boateng will surely make it for Roma. Pato's return is yet unknown, and van Bommel is still unavailable for back problems. Robinho is trying to make it for Saturday, and they'll try to recover Abate for about ten days, meaning no Barcelona for him.

So many injuries. We recover two players, lose three. It's always like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 03:24 PM) *
Yep, or when teams from the same region, like Catania-Palermo etc. That's what's called a derby. Milan-Roma have nothing in common to be called a derby.

Back on topic, Allegri in his press conference today said that Mexes and Seedorf are recovered for tomorrow, whilst Boateng will surely make it for Roma. Pato's return is yet unknown, and van Bommel is still unavailable for back problems. Robinho is trying to make it for Saturday, and they'll try to recover Abate for about ten days, meaning no Barcelona for him.

So many injuries. We recover two players, lose three. It's always like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

VB is a huge miss for tomorrow... No mention if he'll be back for Roma?

Hopefully Robs and Boateng are back for Roma so they can have a game under their belts. I read on the official site that Nesta has been training regularly with the team, so your line-up is still an option...

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Nah, forget about it. Allegri said that he'll rest Ambro for Roma in order to have him fresh for Barça. I guess it'll be the usual 4-3-1-2, with Zambro and Antonini on the flanks. At least we'll have Mexes-Thiago as CBs and hopefully Aquilani-Nocerino-Boateng-Robinho to support Ibra.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 03:32 PM) *
Nah, forget about it. Allegri said that he'll rest Ambro for Roma in order to have him fresh for Barça. I guess it'll be the usual 4-3-1-2, with Zambro and Antonini on the flanks. At least we'll have Mexes-Thiago as CBs and hopefully Aquilani-Nocerino-Boateng-Robinho to support Ibra.

Obviously he was never going to change formation, but it looked good on paper...

Zambro cannot start against Roma if we're going to play him against Barca though. Don't think he can handle that, Bonera should start one of the games on the right or Antonini and Mesbah can play against Roma
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