All talks here...

No Milan, no CL. Bayern Munich to go all the way. No other club interests me this season, to be honest.

Forza Fiorentina!!

+ Atletico Madrid. Two traditional teams to make their comeback..

Yaaaaawn....go Zenit...

Forza Milan

i just hope real doesn't win. We are almost caught up.

+1

...But it would also be good to see an underdog team such as Atletico, Fiorentina or Zenit to pull an upset (or should I say a surprise).

Hard to pick a favorite for this one since the transfer market's wide open and a lot of significant players are moving around.

Right now if I were pressed, I'd want one of the 3 Italian teams (Roma, Fiorentina, Zebra), Villareal, or Bayern to win.

[I am aware of who won the scudetto, but I don't necessarily consider them an italian team.]

Not sure who I want to go all the way, would be nice to see English teams there again, but I don't like United or Liverpool. But Chelsea and Arsenal are yet to win it and I don't want them to join Englands true big 4!

I'll go.. Juve.

Honastly I don't care who wins it, as long as it's not real, Diverpool, Bayern or Man U. Actually Chelsea (that way Abramovic will leave ) would be good for me, but two finals in a row isn't easy to do!

I'm gonna support Klinsis Bayern, Juve and Fiorentina.

Who I would mostly like to win? O Marseille, but that's pure fiction...

I prefer a low class team wins it.

Marseille?! Why?

Why? I like them. They are my favorite french team. Many players I liked played there - like Desailly, Völler, Angloma, BokÅ¡ić, Francescoli, even George Weah did. And it's been a while since a french team won the Champions League..

Bah ... Champions League without Milan, too easy of a competition that will be

..this could be funny to watch! I'll support them to enter the CL, even if it's beyond unrealistic..

And btw. - what does that mean, "controversial"? "He claimes"??

I hate reading this topic!!
It feels so wrong!!

There are some goals he counts that he scored in friendlies or something like that from what I can recall.

Hmh,..he should have continued then to reach the record..

Even worse...he apparently also counted goals in show matches (like Barca vs. the local firemen etc.) and even some during training sessions...

As far as I know the only people for which it is safe to say that they scored more than 1000 goals are Arthur Friedenreich, Péle and Gerd Müller.

This is the list I believe: No-one has scored 1000 goals, don't be silly!

If somebody claims to have 1000 professional goals, they're lying. Including friendlies against complete ametuer sides, maybe they do. But not in competitive competition. But since people like Pele, of course they'll believe him.

Let's face it, Pele isn't able to lie.

With that same mindset i want Lyon Roma or Fiore to win it even Villareal i will hope for. For Lyon they have been the top team in france for a loooong time and its time they win outside of their league, also if they win Benzema will come to us

Why is everyone so affected by Benzema? I don't say he's a bad player,...no, in fact he's very good. But there's something about his character, behaviour that bothers me...

^^^

It's called the big fish in a small pond mentality.

A cookie to the fans of Dinamo Zagreb. Dinamo has gone through to the second qualifying round of the CL on a 3-1 aggregate win over Linfield.

He's very smart, if that's what bothers you

Don't you think the cookie should go to the players?


He looks stupid.

As long as United, Madrid ,Liverpool or Merda won't win it, I'll be happy.

No Milan in the CL... how sad...



Anyway, I will be supporting Juventus in the CL this season, for many reasons. hope they win it.

Does he play football like a stupid, too? has he made stupid decisions in his career, too?

NO.

I don't see why people really don't like Ramos. He's not even played professional football for that long, what on earth has he done to wrong people.

Erm... yeah... but he still looks stupid!


His behavior on the pitch. This guy is loathsome.

1. Real Madrid player.

What dst said. You should really observe him Kurt, and then compare his play with someone like Maldini. For all I gather, Ramos will happily break bones if he was allowed. Couple that with his arrogance, and you've got a complete package.

Like I said, you'll have to observe him closely. Do so next time. It's very obvious to people who have an obsession with defense and defenders (me, dst, etc). In short: He's got talent, but no or very little class.

He doesn't mean it that way, but whatever makes you happy I guess.

Haha. Yeah, I guess.

Those two reasons about cover it for me. Ramos gets a big fins down from the fish doll too. Loathsome is a really good word for him.

Well acid911... Maldini actually said Ramos is his heir.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=560322

Or maybe that's why you guys won't admit he's a c**t... cause he truly is a c**t. FACT.

Cristiano, Ibra, Cassano, Matrix, Quaresma, Vieira, Bommel... those are <that word>. But Ramos? I don't think so.

I can't believe the stuff you people say about Ramos. I don't think none of you have watched Real games more than I have and to tell the truth I've never felt he's a loathsome bone-breaking *******... at least bring proof for what you say. reliable links or youtube links or something that proves he's the kind of player you claim to be.

Oh, he's not a bruiser like, say, Van Bommel. He's just...icky to me. I don't like him, no matter what Maldini or anyone else says about him. I also don't think he's quite as good as some believe him to be - he's had more than his share of Kaladzities during the year. (And I do watch La Liga games on a regular basis)

The Champions League is for gays.

Yup, knew that. Maldini is so pure of heart, he thinks of Adebayor as a good striker. I guess that's why they call him God. Then again, we are fans, and they are players - they have that bond between them. Personally, I've never doubted Ramos when it comes to talent and defending skills. They are there for everyone to see.

But as a football fan, I can't help but notice his trail of arrogance he leaves, or say, his tackling style. Even on the pitch. I don't have time to dig up videos, but one can get a good idea of his philosophy of defending in the recent Euros. Bone breaker is exaggerating it a bit, okay, but more than once he took unnecessary risks in order to take the ball off opposing players. Risking other players' safety. Oh, and he's a showman to boot. Gets the job done and done well, but that's not all that counts. There's a small matter of sportsmanship too. Then again, I'm a kid spoiled by people like Paolo, so that could be another reason.

Bottom line: I'd not want him anywhere the red and black part of Milan. And I'm not alone in thinking this, Tennie, dst, and others see this too. Of course, that shouldn't stop you liking him. Didn't stop Porty from admiring Ibra. But in simpler terms, he lacks class. You'll know it in time, I'm certain.


More so when Milan is not playing in it.

ONLY when Milan is not playing in it.