Did anybody hear Wengers comments after his game last night? First of all he says it shouldn't have been a penalty against them. I don't know about you, but dragging someone to the floor from behind is generally seen as a foul. Then he criticised the lack of added on time, as he fouls his team would have gone on to win the game if the correct amount was added on. Oh, and in a shocking surprise, he forgot to mention their 90th minute equaliser was offside. And people wonder why I hate the guy.

Oh, and I saw the Celtic highlights earlier. Samaras went through, was fouled from behind.. then the Italian referee sent off the wrong person.

Has anyone considered that it might not be so horribly bad to support (for example) Juve in the champions league because if they focus THERE, they may focus less on Serie A?

Milan must win being better than the rivals. Not the rivals worse than us (like Mancini's Inter).

Classless? come on they're the classiest English club. how can you say they're classless...

Excuse me, who are you supporting? an English side or a Spanish one?

WHY GILA WHY??? WHY DID YOU FLOP HERE??

It took him more than one season to score in the CL for us.

Anyway... I think La Viola were robbed of a victory if this is to be believed.

Did anybody hear Wengers comments after his game last night? First of all he says it shouldn't have been a penalty against them. I don't know about you, but dragging someone to the floor from behind is generally seen as a foul. Then he criticised the lack of added on time, as he fouls his team would have gone on to win the game if the correct amount was added on. Oh, and in a shocking surprise, he forgot to mention their 90th minute equaliser was offside. And people wonder why I hate the guy.

Oh, and I saw the Celtic highlights earlier. Samaras went through, was fouled from behind.. then the Italian referee sent off the wrong person.

I think you should take a little break from your anti-Wenger campaign, you're becoming awfully predictable...

1. The Kiev player drags Sagna down on top of himself. That is not a penalty, is it?
2. The ref added 3 minutes, but blew the whistle after 1. Can you imagine what Ferguson or Mourinho would have done in the same situation?
3. That goal wasn't offside. Simple as that.

Anti-Wenger? Did I say anything about him at the weekend? No.

Man you're lame! That's the same as me saying I'm not anti-Scouser because I don't bash them every week! Come on Birmingham boy, admit that you jump at every chance Wenger gives you to mock him!

Or... we just don't agree on that. They are the biggest club in England maybe but they are classless in my view... besides, what do you expect me to say I loathe them Scousers!

You can support whichever team you want to, all I'm saying is it seems weird to me...

Because he was the easy target and everyone blamed him for our losses when everyone was awful.

He could have scored in his first season against Fener but he chose to let Sheva complete his hat-trick. here (min 2:50) Sheva thanked him for that after the game.

Unlike Holland's goal against Italy, I don't think this one was offside.

Man you're lame! That's the same as me saying I'm not anti-Scouser because I don't bash them every week! Come on Birmingham boy, admit that you jump at every chance Wenger gives you to mock him!

1 Their current team may not be attractive. I agree. but the name 'Liverpool' is a class by its own.

2 Doesn't seem weird to me. it's good for Serie A and the Italian football if an Italian side (even Inter) wins it.

3 But the club always defended and stood by him. in the forums, yeah, we pointed fingers at him. but he doesn't come and read what we say in forums, does he? if the press did that, then it's not 'our' fault he lost his confidence.

4 Aw. a cookie to your memory! the only things I remember about that match are Sheva's four goals, Kaka limping off the pitch, Rui Costa getting his shirt ripped, and... I'm out!

But that was just one game. he went, if I'm not mistaken, 10 or 11 games without scoring a single goal. bottom line is he struggled in Milan for whatever reason...

5 Doesn't matter if it was offside or onside. you don't play on when one of the opponent's players is down with a serious injury. what they did was not necessarily 'illegal', it was unsportsmanlike!

I've never mocked Wenger for no reason. The only time I ever get on his back is when he makes unnecessary or stupid comments, if he says something I agree with, or nothing at all, I won't mock him, no.

Anti-Wenger? Did I say anything about him at the weekend? No. For some reason you think I'm anti-Arsenal/Adebayor/Wenger.. even though I proved to you the other week I give Arsenal credit when you deserve it, yet you still continue with this.

Sagna put his arms around him, he fell for it, it's his own fault.
I can't say, I don't know how much was added on, how much was played, I didn't see the full game.
Sky Sports replays show differently, he was actually offside twice during that goal. First from the initial cross, then from the touch that Adebayor(?) got.

Youv'e said several times that you hate him and that EPL would be a better place without him, I think that's as anti as it gets, really...

@Jack, Arsenal HAVE one of the best diciplinary records in England concerning recent years.

Really? I wouldn't have said it myself! (no sass intended)

I mean I think Arsenal and discipline...and I remember incidents like the Chelsea cup final, Eboue's antics, Gallas's prima donna routine and the bust up between Adebayor and Bendtner....in recent times.I'm not necessarily talking cards. Good behaviour is what I mean!

Arsenal are one of those-All is fine as long as we win, but when the shite hits the fan they stink. Sorry!

But they do play great football when they wish to...

Compared to the rest of the big 4 (and Blackburn), Arsenal are perfectly nice. When it comes to class, well, I would say the Greenhouse project should be enough really.

What about Beveren?

I'm not saying this is the case for Arsenal (neither that it isn't) but doing one thing right does not mean you're doing everything right. I can protest about the environment for example but if I don't recycle and save energy I'm ****...

So you can't bring one thing forward and say we're good because of that, I hope you get what I'm saying.

What about Beveren?

I'm not saying this is the case for Arsenal (neither that it isn't) but doing one thing right does not mean you're doing everything right. I can protest about the environment for example but if I don't recycle and save energy I'm ****...

So you can't bring one thing forward and say we're good because of that, I hope you get what I'm saying.

I get what you mean, but I think I should explain that I meant Arsenal have done their fair share of good things over the years, but these things get very little attention by the media.

Nedved: It felt like our first time...
Wednesday 17 September, 2008
Pavel Nedved thinks nerves got the better of Juventus as they returned to the Champions League. “We felt like debutants.”

The Bianconeri have been out of Europe for two years since the Calciopoli scandal and some stars – including the 2003 Ballon d’Or winner – stayed with the club even in Serie B.

“This was more than a simple victory, as we cared a great deal about this game. Perhaps too much, as we were tense and have played better in other matches,” he said after the 1-0 win over Zenit.

“The three points were crucial and we paid a little for the fact that we may not be Champions League debutants, but we felt like it tonight.

“I felt it and I saw some of my teammates who were very tense in the first half. They couldn’t express themselves as well as usual.”

Alessandro Del Piero scored the only goal of the night in Turin with a splendid free kick that caught the goalkeeper off guard.

“Zenit are a great side and pushed us, but we defended in an organised manner. I think we are in decent shape physically and proved that in the preliminary round. I think it was psychological tonight, as we were too eager to do well and got nervous.”

Nedved does not disguise he has a particular point to prove in this competition, as he has never won and missed the 2003 Final against Milan through suspension.

“I would make many sacrifices to go all the way in the Champions League, as this is a very special competition for me.

“We will have to wait for other games to play better football, as we needed the result tonight and are happy with it. We know we have to improve, but there is plenty of time for that.”

Juve were also hindered by losing Mauro Camoranesi – who hit the post in the first half – to an ankle injury early on.

“I hope he won’t be out for a long time, as he is crucial for our team, especially now that he is in such great form.”

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1 I fail to see it...

2 Even Inter? You're trying hard to believe it yourself. Anyway, yeah it will be good for Italian football and I'll be happy for Italian football but I cannot support none of them cause they are our bitter rivals.

3 People in the stadium reacted the same as we did and the press was hard on him too. The players get the feeling of the supporters, they do not live in a world of their own.

4 Yes but people kept saying he had not scored a goal and there was much pressure on him. In any case, it's all in the past now. For the record I'm not saying Gila failed solely because he was not supported but I think that was also a big factor.

5 True.

1. 5 European cups... England's most successful club. you still don't see it?

2. Yes even Inter. I'd rather they end this 40-something jinx than to see Man United lift the cup again!!

3. You're right.

4. Well, sometimes a player has to fight even the fans to earn what he thinks he deserves. Gila was not that...

5. Good boy.

No offtopic, you cnuts.

Compared to the rest of the big 4 (and Blackburn), Arsenal are perfectly nice. When it comes to class, well, I would say the Greenhouse project should be enough really.

That's a word I definitely do not want to see on the forums, regardless of whoever uses it.

You can't compare yourself to Blackburn in terms of disciplne! That's like saying, Jack the Ripper killed loads of people, I've only killed 1 or 2 so I'm not that bad.

What do people here (particularly Porty) think of Rui Patricio (Sporting's keeper) he is supposed to be highly rated. Anybody know about his abilities?

Considering Jack the Ripper killed 5 people, then yes, you're very bad.

Report it.

That's not really the point. You're objecting to the S-word being used on the forums, which is fine, but then you toss out a word that is as equally offensive to others.

I really don't get this... whether I write f**k, fvck, fck or anything else the meaning is the same. The meaning is all that matters and at the same time it cannot be suppressed by censorship... so I think this all is a bit ridiculous...

This may help.

Arsenal spanking Porto by 4-0 with 20 min to play. And I'm having a great time watching.

My respect for Arsenal just increased by 35%. Thank you.

When Van Persie Means Business, He Means Business.

Forza Van Persie!

Happy to serve.
porty, what Portuguese club do you follow by the way? My guess would be Sporting or Benfica but you have never really made it clear (at least not to me).

Van Persie's second goal was exquisite, but I must say I find Adebayor's penalties to be a bit paranormal.
He sends them to the right EVERY time and they always go in.

Aalborg's defense provided 2 Beautiful assists for Berbatov's Goal!

Anyways, it was nice skills from C.R.

Any skill is nice skill when your'e playing Aalborg.

^^^

Sour grapes??!!

Goooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Gourcuff strikes for Bordeaux. What a goal. Roma fail to deal with a long ball...Jussie finds the striker who beats Panucci to smash a delightful right foot finish past Doni.

Why is he calling Yoann a striker??