oh, my Spanish is horrible. I understand about half of the commentary but thing is, these guys know what they're talking about. So do the guys on RAI. Andy Gray on ESPN (I like Tommy Healy) and most of the commentators and 'experts' on Fox Soccer have gone beyond the 'annoying' stage and have reached the 'offensive' stage for me. So I'd rather listen to something I only half understand than be forced to endure Andy Gray or Warren Barton.

You call the first 2 United goals anything other then luck? And Ronaldo's goal against Porto??

And unless Milan have suddenly moved quarters and became an English team, I doubt he'll be gushing about anything Milan do anytime soon

Arsenal actually sucking horse's @ss tonight.

I hate how they keep trying to thread the passes through the blue wall with nothing coming out of it except for Unit counter attacking

Fletcher red. poor Fletcher misses the final. 100% correct decision. Rosetti

Red to Fletcher!

It's diferent for me I suppose. I just laugh at most commentators because I think it's a joke how most of them get the job! If anyone knows what they're talking about it's someone who's played the game, somebody who's a former Player of the Year and international footballer. If there's any commentator, in my opinion, that falls under the 'expert' category, it's Andy Gray. Most people don't like him because he likes the English clubs.. well, what do they expect, he's lived here for God knows how long.


Andy Gray was very, very positve towards Milan and particularly Inzaghi when we won it. Immortal is what he said, I believe.


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Penalty Arsenal, Fletcher wrongfully dismissed. RvP scores. That red card will surely be overturned?

Sadly it's too late

According to the commentators on ITV only mistaken identity red cards can be overturned. I really feel for Fletcher, that was a horrible decision, he got the ball quite clearly and now misses the final.

So now we see why zeddie's watching the game!

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Kurt, as for Andy Gray, I remember him referring to Milan as dirty, greasy Italian mafia scumbags who didn't deserve to be in the tournament in 2007.

I'm not sure I've ever heard the man say any positive thing about a club outside the EPL.

THAT's why I don't watch games he commentates because even if he may know his football, his bias is not something I'm prepared to listen to.

Wrongfully? he 'scissored' Fabregas! true that he hit the ball first but Fabregas could've scored on rebound. 100% correct decision. even Fletcher himself didn't protest...

He said those comment towards Milan begrudgingly after we humbled Man U and Pippo made the Liverpool defence look ametourish, nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding his bias, I believe that once you take the role as football commentator bias should not be involved in your commentary.

And it's not All the English clubs he directs it to, when it's for example Liverpool-Chelsea/Arsenal or Man U Chelsea/Arsenal you can hear him being biased towards Liverpool or United

Listen to them now

When Rosetti makes a call in favour of United "Yes, he's got it absolutely right"
When it's against United "He's made a hash of it there"

Well, he never said those things, but he did say Milan didn't deserve to be in it.


I don't think protesting was really in Fletchers mind at the time, that'd be the last thing he'd be thinking about. I think it was never a penalty in a million years and certainly not a red card. Though you're biased against United..

They are now attacking Rosetti and actually comparing him to the next Collina Mr. Howard Webb

I remember him saying them, Kurt. Maybe you got different clips of him there than we did here. In any event, water under the bridge that doesn't matter all that much. You like the guy as commentator and I don't.

Well it's all about opinion. If I were to believe everything on here what people put, Inter would be bottom of the league with 0 points and Milan would be top by miles.. everyone is biased.


Rosetti was a coward today. After Arsenal went 2 behind he gave in to the crowds ironic cheers and gave them free-kicks for everything. I think Rosetti and Webb is a decent comparison, neither can do their job correctly.

I may be biased gaianst Man U but not against Fletcher. I still feel terrible for him, but IMO it was a correct decision.

Yes, but when you're biased against United and biased towards Rosetti and a United player gets sent off.. well, we all know your opinion.

FT. Another season without a trophy for Wenger, surely the Arsenal fans won't put up with this for much longer? United to be the first team to repeat since Milan?

It's clearly not oppinion, but them being biased towards United. If this was any other foreign team playing against Arsenal they would never react the way they have been to Rosetti's calls.

Rosetti is one of the best refs around and has reffed big matches before, I'm sure he's not going to let a few ironic cheers get to him. In fact most 50/50 calls went United's way tonight. As for their Webb comments they were saying that he can ref the game better.

Oh **** it.

ok so now gallaini and carlo will be meeting with adebeyour agent

I think United will face their first real test in the final, no matter who goes through.

I'm hoping they won't actually do the repeat since that is something that Milan are the last to be able to accomplish.

Whoever goes through from the other semi, I'm hoping wins. Not because I don't want Man U to win, but because looking at it from a footballing perspective, Barca are the team that deserve it the most because of the incredible season they've played, and Chelsea because they have been so close on so many occasions yet still can't seem to actually get that final step right.

I can't see any other reason why they're in London

For the food?

But dst once said it sucks seriously, something fishy is going on.

It could just be an extended family visit. Ancelotti's daughter is working in London, last I heard.

Galliani went with him to help him carry the luggage?

When the manager and the coach of a club attends another team's game one can't help but think they're there for business.

Man United just walked through arsenal today _

barca and chelsea should be intresting tomorow _ and im hopin barcelona can win

before the game started i turned to my arsenal friend and said your left side of the pitch has gibbs, djourou andnasri and that united are going to exploit that side cuz of how weak it was, guess what all three goals came from that area.

he gets the ball cleanly with left foot but clear catches fabregas trailing leg with his right, whether or not it was intentional it was a foul and nothing more but it just happened to be in the box and on the last man = red card.

I disagree. If he gets the ball initially, which he does, then it's not a foul. Just because he then catches him, doesn't make it a foul.

So do you think this is a foul? Because he gets the ball first, but then takes then makes contact with the player which results in him going to the floor. Not even close to me, good tackle, like Fletchers today.

like i said one foot gets the ball, the other one chops fabregas, two different actions that are unrelated. using your logic as long as you get the ball you can follow through how ever you want like lets saw cleat his shin or elbow his face or i dunno as long as you get the ball?

Wenger will never, ever be a tactical coach.

Pathetic display by Arsenal in both legs. Just awful.

It was a clear penalty (and subsequently a red card) in my view.

Fixed.

Come on now, they were all awful, in both legs!

my money is on chelsea today

i hate that pick, but i think they'll pull it out

Fishdoll will cry if you're right, Warchant.

In the first one Almunia was excellent, and in the second we self-destructed during the first 10 minutes.

It's been a great game so far.

Chelsea surely do not deserve to lead the tie though, they have playing bad defensive football for 3x45 minutes. Should I call this catenaccio? Oh wait Chelsea's not an Italian side so it's probably called tactically superior defensive-minded football or something like that...

Abidal sent off for...well, for being the closest player to Anelka when Le Sulk decided to go down.

Fishdoll thinks he'll watch the hockey game tonight instead of the replay of this game, yepyep.

EDIT: Fishdoll might watch the last few minutes of the game after all. Iniesta got an equalizer in the 93rd (so the ticker tells me). Barca go through to the final.

Fishdoll should think twice.

ronaldos first goal was weak but he made several amazing saves especially in the first leg.

SCREAMING BARCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....YES

crazy ending.

First shot on target, first goal. I think another performance like that and they will be battered by United though, as for Messi, well if it was Ronaldo he'd be lambasted for a performance that was so distinctively average as that but that's another matter.

Still the 2 best teams (on paper) in Europe will battle it out and it has been a while since that's happened in the final.

YESSS!!!

No all English Final!!!!!!

Barca really showed the desire to win it, and unlike in 06 were they had all the talent and ego, they have the talent and just the drive this season. It was amazing to watch after going down to 10 men.

But as far as refereeing goes... That was a disgrace