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Zed.D
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 9 2012, 01:10 PM) *
Guess I'm in the minority. I always respected Juve as an opponent. I thought they were the only ones worth competing with. I look down on Inter...and find Roma delusional.

I want us to beat Juve really really bad...but for me it's a pure sporting rivalry. Their shirt is just as glorious as ours..as far as I'm concerned...calciopoli excluded.


+1.

I do like to take scornful jibes at them and beat them when they're down, but deep down, I kind of admire them. especially for how they've always been the backbone of the Azzurri. and whether we like or not, they've always been the #1 team in Italy. both fan base and success.

But at least we can take pride in that we're the #1 Italian team in the world. what can Inter take pride in? having never been relegated is the best they can come up with innocent.gif
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 9 2012, 12:40 PM) *
what can Inter take pride in? having never been relegated is the best they can come up with innocent.gif


And the triplette. I have many Inter fans, and they consider us and Juventus thieves, whilst their club is honorable and successful. I can't help but cringe every time I have debates with them.
kurtsimonw
I don't think the first Italian club to win the treble is embarassing, but they have a history of failure. Juve have a history of failure in Europe. We just do not fail.
Zed.D
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 9 2012, 06:00 PM) *
And the triplette. I have many Inter fans, and they consider us and Juventus thieves, whilst their club is honorable and successful. I can't help but cringe every time I have debates with them.


Forgot about the triple. no one can undervalue that. but hopefully someday we do the same (I know, we've never been that kind of team. we win them one by one dry.gif )
X-Offender
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 9 2012, 04:36 PM) *
I don't think the first Italian club to win the treble is embarassing, but they have a history of failure. Juve have a history of failure in Europe. We just do not fail.


For them, it's like football was invented in 2006. They fail to realize what a joke they were in the 25 years prior to Calciopoli, winning only one scudetto under Trapattoni in 1989, whilst we were collecting trophies left and right in Italy and Europe.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 9 2012, 04:39 PM) *
Forgot about the triple. no one can undervalue that.


You know, I don't really care about it. The triplette means you've been awesome for only one year. Inter fans take immense pride in that. But prior to 2010 and afterwards, they had their fair share of problems. Before the triplette, they were simply winning in Italy with zero competition from Milan and Juventus, Roma being the toughest opponent, but utterly failing in Europe against the various Villareal's and Valencia's. After the triplette, they completely crumbled apart, changing five coaches in two years. Where's the coolness in that? When we were under Sacchi's, Capello's and Ancelotti's magical spells, we used to dominate in Italy and Europe for several years.
Danny
QUOTE (acid911 @ May 8 2012, 05:42 PM) *
Why, thank you! king.gif Glad I did. I can only hope you don't run into some of them pathetic Juventus fans anytime soon, who think that not only their club is a gift to the world of football, but the whole world is against them. Italy, Europe, UEFA officials, everyone. And that's not even talking about their dirty play, pressuring referees, etc.


Unfortunately there's been a great deal of all of the above from our supporters this year as well.

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And then they've got sick little names for everyone and their grandmothers,


There are guys on this forum who have little insulting nicknames for our own players.

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they lie, cheat, steal, anything for a result. Like I said, it was a good few years when Juventus got what they had coming and stayed in the wilderness of Serie B. But now with their Scudetto, I fear they will be back and gain strength from now on. Sad.

Seriously, I abhor violence, but I'd give a good kick to the knickers to the next person who calls us Bilan.


I used to hate Juventus, but those were the days where they were just hateable. Right now I don't feel they are, although I do know one Bianconerri and he's a bit of a fanny, as us Scots would say.
Zed.D
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 9 2012, 07:20 PM) *
You know, I don't really care about it. The triplette means you've been awesome for only one year. Inter fans take immense pride in that. But prior to 2010 and afterwards, they had their fair share of problems. Before the triplette, they were simply winning in Italy with zero competition from Milan and Juventus, Roma being the toughest opponent, but utterly failing in Europe against the various Villareal's and Valencia's. After the triplette, they completely crumbled apart, changing five coaches in two years. Where's the coolness in that? When we were under Sacchi's, Capello's and Ancelotti's magical spells, we used to dominate in Italy and Europe for several years.


Well, there's the way Inter did it and the way Barca or Man U did it...


And the thing is, years from now, people won't care how Inter won the triple and what became of them after it, not even the way they approached the Barca game which wasn't even catenaccio, worse than that. all they'll remember is this: Inter were the first Italian club to win the triple. I would have liked that honor for us. it's a source of pride. but now it's too late. although not for joining the club at least.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 9 2012, 05:39 PM) *
Well, there's the way Inter did it and the way Barca or Man U did it...


And the thing is, years from now, people won't care how Inter won the triple and what became of them after it, not even the way they approached the Barca game which wasn't even catenaccio, worse than that. all they'll remember is this: Inter were the first Italian club to win the triple. I would have liked that honor for us. it's a source of pride. but now it's too late. although not for joining the club at least.


Winning the treble is a huge achievement, I'm not denying that. But it's just one season. Like I said, prior to 2010, Inter were just winning domestically with zero competition from Milan and Juventus, and afterwards they fell into complete chaos. Under Ancelotti (2002-2007), we were always fighting head to head with Juventus for the title, and at the same time dominating in Europe, with three CL finals and one semi-final in five years. Personally, I think the latter is something to be more proud of. And that's only Ancelotti's era. We also had Capello's and Sacchi's spells, the latter with arguably one of the three best teams in history (Guardiola's Barça and Cruyff's Ajax being the other two). What did Inter achieve in the last 20-25 years prior to Calciopoli? Jackshit. My point is that Inter fans should not have the guts to brag to us Milan fans about one treble, when we are clearly the most prestigious club out of the two.
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 9 2012, 10:30 AM) *
And the triplette. I have many Inter fans, and they consider us and Juventus thieves, whilst their club is honorable and successful. I can't help but cringe every time I have debates with them.

+ infinity!

More reason why I wanted them to be caught in the whole calciopoli scandal. Dirty biased delusional bastards!
kurtsimonw
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Pirlo: "From a tactical and didactic point of view, Conte is even better than Ancelotti and Lippi, who are also two great coaches."


Surely he's only saying that because he's his current coach!?
Jack Sparrow
biggrin.gif No. Conte is extremely flexible with his tactics...but I think Andy P is jumping the gun here. Carlo was never a league coach....the CL was his natural arena.So truth be told, I did find his Chelsea tenure quite surprising.

In fact Lippi also to an extent.

Managing a league and managing a tournament are quite different.

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Andrea Pirlo has revealed that he left Milan because he was no longer in the first team plans of boss Massimiliano Allegri.

The playmaker quit the Rossoneri on a Bosman last summer to join Juventus and he subsequently inspired their Scudetto success.

“Milan offered me a one-year extension, but I wanted three years because I was younger than the other players whose contracts were expiring,” he told the Gazzetta dello Sport.

“But the real reason behind why I left Milan was because Allegri wanted to use Massimo Ambrosini or Mark Van Bommel in front of the defence instead of me.

“That meant that I had to change position on the pitch. So I said ‘no thanks’ to Milan and chose Juventus.

“Milan decided that I was no longer useful to them. I understood that immediately during our meeting.”

Some were surprised by Pirlo’s decision to leave champions Milan for a team who had finished the previous two seasons in seventh place.

“When I was at Gigi Buffon’s wedding in June last year, people asked me if I was crazy because I had left,” he added.

“I then replied that when I decide to join another club, I do it because I want to win. And I also said that we would win the Italian championship.

“And now those same people thank me because they went and put money on us winning the Scudetto…”

While Juventus enjoyed the assists of Pirlo, Milan did struggle at times without his calmness and vision.

“A lot of my former teammates told me that they missed me during the campaign,” he added. “But I’m happy as I won.

“Almost all of my former teammates at Milan sent me text messages congratulating me on winning the Scudetto.”

The 32-year-old has fond memories of his time with the Diavolo, but he admits that their attempt to get him suspended for a Cup game after an alleged elbow on Van Bommel was uncalled for.

“That annoyed me,” he continued. “I played there for 10 years and they know that I don’t do certain things…”


The experienced Italian international also took advantage of the interview to praise ‘rookie’ Coach Antonio Conte.

“Conte is a great. I’ve had a lot of Coaches in my career, but never one who has been so prepared, so meticulous in his work and who explains things so well.

“We watch videos of our opponents three or four times a week and it's difficult for them to surprise us as a result.

“In terms of tactics and the way he teaches, he’s better than Carlo Ancelotti and Marcello Lippi.”


With the Scudetto won, Pirlo now believes that his side can be a force in next season’s Champions League.

“This Juve is one of the strongest ever in terms of mentality and pride,” he commented. “We can make a bid for the Champions League as we are now by playing in the same way.

“But we’ll need a few signings to complete the squad, even if we would have done well in the competition this season.”
Zed.D
What a weird interview... this guy is doing his best to undo all the good things he did for Milan. what a shame.

Two times he elbowed our players in one game and they looked very deliberate. he should have kept quiet on that one instead of accusing us of doing something very right - defending our players.

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This Juve is one of the strongest ever in terms of mentality


A crushing defeat in the CL and we'll see about that, Andy P.

I think they're getting ahead of themselves. yes they were good but they can't win the Scudetto every year with our injuries and referee's howlers giving them a helping hand.

We'll see just how good they really are next season.
Zed.D
Also, I don't think he's in a position to criticize the club or Allegri for that matter for the lack of trust. he'd been playing poorly for some years already. it'd have been less hypocritical of him to also mention his poor form in his last years at Milan. starting during Carlo's last season or two, continuing with Leonardo and ending with Max.
acid911
I have been more disappointed in a Milan player more than Pirlo these past few years. sad.gif His personal vendetta against his former club is going to do him no good. When you have a player like Huntelaar who hasn't uttered a word after leaving, you have a so-called "legend" (not that I believe him to be, Seedorf is way heard of Pirlo in this regard) bad mouthing us every time he opens his beak.

Carlo Ancelotti was the coach who made him what he is, someone hit Pirlo on his head and feed him this intel.
Zed.D
QUOTE (acid911 @ May 11 2012, 02:14 PM) *
Carlo Ancelotti was the coach who made him what he is, someone hit Pirlo on his head and feed him this intel.


True story.

I thought his "I'm #1" comment was made in the heat of the moment and there'd be no more comments like that, but he still hasn't stopped and something tells me we'll hear more from him in the future.
acid911
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 11 2012, 03:51 PM) *
I thought his "I'm #1" comment was made in the heat of the moment and there'd be no more comments like that, but he still hasn't stopped and something tells me we'll hear more from him in the future.

Very much. sad.gif I expected better from me, but maybe it were my own great expectations that let me down. Going to a rival club, and than badmouthing the previous club and coach, well that's pretty much the end of grace for me. And that's not even taking about him giving 30% for us, and then going on and giving 100% for Juventus.

Like I said, any club but Juventus. mellow.gif But anyway, Pirlo's antics only make our other legends look great!
Danny
Ok, Andrea Pirlo can go f*ck himself.
Jack Sparrow
I had no problem with the #1 comment. It was a response to the question, "Who he thinks is his replacement in the NT?" and he said at the moment he doesn't think he needs replacing.

But yes, this comment was a bit off centre. He's already proved his point to Allegri and to the club on the pitch when he became the engine of the team..he should just STFU...and if he wants to stick the knife..can always take the 'modest' route.

Not sure if the press have twisted his words and selectively printing quotes from direct questions. It would make media sense to rekindle a Juve-Milan animosity...since Serie A has been pretty sterile of late.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 11 2012, 11:12 AM) *
What a weird interview... this guy is doing his best to undo all the good things he did for Milan. what a shame.

Agreed.

It seems Pirlo wanted the team built around him, when in reality his performances of recent years wouldn't even mean he deserved assurance that he'd be a first XI player.

Milan made him a European and World Champion instead of a waster on the Inter bench. He'll do well to remember that.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (acid911 @ May 11 2012, 05:14 PM) *
Carlo Ancelotti was the coach who made him what he is, someone hit Pirlo on his head and feed him this intel.


Not to cut too fine a point..it was the other Carlo...Mazzone who did. Pirlo went up and asked Ancelotti if he could go back to playing the position that Mazzone had used him in..and I guess Carlo raised the right eyebrow. So that's how one of the best Milan mid-fields were formed.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 11 2012, 06:26 PM) *
Agreed.

It seems Pirlo wanted the team built around him, when in reality his performances of recent years wouldn't even mean he deserved assurance that he'd be a first XI player.


To be fair..the last few teams built were always exposing his lack of defensive skills. Especially the ones in the last two years. And having now got a mid-field built around him, he is performing like we know he can. I guess his reasoning was for a player in his prime, who has fully recovered from injuries, there was a tactical solution possible in the team that would have used him to the best of his ability.

For me, the concern is how more and more technical players do no seem sold on the strategy we are having.
han2503
Looks like the Juve ego is about to explode. Can't wait to see it do just that in their faces next season. Pirlo was never an arrogant person, but it looks like the Conte stench has rubbed off on him as well.
drucurl
Forza Il Maestro


Grazie for being the legend that you are
If this interview is to be trusted we know that:
  1. Reason 1 Pirlo left is that he wanted a longer contract
  2. Reason #2 is that he refused to try to adapt to $h!tlegri's tactics (can't blame him much here since $h!tlegri =$h!t)
  3. He has a vendetta for Milan's refusal to accept three years straight of complete $h!t
  4. Is SCUM (surprise surprise) for elbowing our players then talking about the roughing up that he got
  5. Thinking Conte > Ancelotti is EVIDENCE that he's a dellusional turd
kurtsimonw
I think the funniest thing is that their lack of European football over the last 5 or 6 years will have destroyed their co-efficient. I enjoy watching them as a 3rd/4th seed team with a tough group. biggrin.gif
Jack Sparrow
True. I can't wait to watch them get stuffed in CL. biggrin.gif
X-Offender
I'm on Pirlo's side in this one. I honestly don't find anything wrong with his comments. Allegri didn't treat him with respect, our medical staff kept him out for a whole year, and the club didn't offer him a 3-year deal, when he was clearly the youngest of the bunch, comprising Seedorf, Inzaghi, Ambrosini etc. His "elbowing" against van Bommel was blown out of proportions, and the way the club reacted afterwards indicating it to the media was utterly disgusting. We gifted one of the best players in the world to our direct rivals and he was one of the main reasons why they beat us to the scudetto race. Enough said.
kurtsimonw
I can't agree. His last few seasons were truly awful, for all the club knew he was finished. If he really felt he had 3 years in him, he'd have accepted a 1-year deal. Then if as he believed, he still had it and had a good season - he'd get another 1-year deal on more money. Something tells me he didn't believe it himself which is why he was very desperate for a long contract. You'd think after what we've done for him he'd show us more respect.

Inter to Milan to Juve. Get some morales, Andy. Nothing but a mercenary.
drucurl
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 11 2012, 09:42 AM) *
I can't agree. His last few seasons were truly awful, for all the club knew he was finished. If he really felt he had 3 years in him, he'd have accepted a 1-year deal. Then if as he believed, he still had it and had a good season - he'd get another 1-year deal on more money. Something tells me he didn't believe it himself which is why he was very desperate for a long contract. You'd think after what we've done for him he'd show us more respect.

Inter to Milan to Juve. Get some morales, Andy. Nothing but a mercenary.

Not to go all Myan calendar on everybody's @$$ but I totally agree with Kurt here especially the bold unsure.gif
Pirlo = mercenary SCUM
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 11 2012, 07:04 PM) *
I'm on Pirlo's side in this one. I honestly don't find anything wrong with his comments. Allegri didn't treat him with respect, our medical staff kept him out for a whole year, and the club didn't offer him a 3-year deal, when he was clearly the youngest of the bunch, comprising Seedorf, Inzaghi, Ambrosini etc. His "elbowing" against van Bommel was blown out of proportions, and the way the club reacted afterwards indicating it to the media was utterly disgusting. We gifted one of the best players in the world to our direct rivals and he was one of the main reasons why they beat us to the scudetto race. Enough said.



I'm Andy's biggest fan on here I think. I still admire the player in him...but even if all you said was true...he should have kept his mouth shut. Maybe waited for his autobiography to tell all.

@dru: Mercenary scum? Hmm...you mean like Baggio?
Zed.D
The club has a policy of no more than 1 year extensions for over 30 year olds. which part of it did Pirlo not understand?

And we didn't gift him to Juve. he chose them. what could we do when he expected special treatment (3 year contract, refusing to give the role Max would have asked him to play even a shot). he wasn't even playing well for us anymore.

But you know, none of that matters. what's done is done. he's Juve player now for whatever the reason. what bothers me is his insistence to come out every few days and talk **** about us. though I liked him he wasn't my top favorite player and when he left I didn't think of him any less. but now I am.

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was blown out of proportions

Maybe because everything that went against Juve those days was blown out of proportions by them? I remember they used to moan and ***** a lot when they were several points behind us. it was obvious the club would protest against his elbows to shut their mouths - especially after a game like that where they robbed us of a crucial win. we did the right thing.
drucurl
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 11 2012, 09:53 AM) *
@dru: Mercenary scum? Hmm...you mean like Baggio?

I'm not going to compare Pirlo to an actual football legend like Baggio.

However the facts remain that he's UTTER AND COMPLETE TRASH!!
The best part of this interview is the revelation of just how conceited he is (even if in a quiet, non confrontational way), and how utterly clueless $h!tlegri is at both tactical adaptation and man management.

We bray night and day about Flamoney's stubborn refusal to play the fullback role, a position that we desperately need....however Pirlo AGAIN gets a free pass to not play somewhere he doesn't want to

BUT THERE'S an even more concerning extrapolation of this story....$h!tlegri has up till now shown no interest in technical players of any sort...even as Inter got Poli and we had a crack at Montilivo before the charlatan left for Ladri....this means that he may be looking to stack the midfield further with goons and thugs this summer
han2503
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 11 2012, 01:16 PM) *
I think the funniest thing is that their lack of European football over the last 5 or 6 years will have destroyed their co-efficient. I enjoy watching them as a 3rd/4th seed team with a tough group. biggrin.gif

With their luck they'll get an easy group. But it would be funny as hell if they ended up in a similar group to the one Napoli ended up with this season

I think they're running their mouths off too much. They bascally had every god similing upon them this season. With CL football and maybe one or two injuries, I wonder how they'd cope. From what I saw this season when they had their only tight fixture list in February, not so well
kurtsimonw
Yeah, they had some CB injuries at once, but otherwise they got it pretty easy. Combine that with no European football, it made it easier for them.
William405
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Massimiliano Allegri prepares for next season with Riccardo Montolivo at Milan and sends a message to Andrea Pirlo. “I don’t care what he says.”

The Coach has nothing more to play for this term and takes on already-relegated Novara this afternoon.

“I must compliment Juventus, as they had an extraordinary year and deserve this Scudetto. This does not mean it was a failure for Milan, though,” said Allegri.

“We won it last season, went close this time and hope to be competitive in Europe and Serie A next year too.

“Next season Montolivo will arrive and he is a very talented player with great technique. In any case, Milan will remain competitive next year and we must continue the work we started last season. We need to begin again with great enthusiasm.”

Montolivo is a free agent, as his contract with Fiorentina expires on June 30.

There is the sensation this is the end of an era, as Alessandro Nesta, Gennaro Gattuso, Pippo Inzaghi and Mark van Bommel have all confirmed they are leaving Milan, while Clarence Seedorf and Gianluca Zambrotta are expected to follow with their contracts expiring next month.

“These are going to be difficult days, as we are saying goodbye to players and men who have written Milan history. It must be a celebration for those lads who are leaving and I thank them for giving their all. Unfortunately you cannot hold back time.

“To be here for 10 years and win so many trophies means you have a very strong mentality. We’re finishing a season and an era.”

There was already a sign of change within the Rossoneri camp last summer, when Andrea Pirlo joined Juventus on a free transfer and proved decisive in the Scudetto race. The veteran midfielder sniped at Allegri, suggesting the Coach “didn’t want” him around.

“I thank Pirlo for the hard work he put in last year. I evaluate players when I have them at my disposal. After that, I don’t care what they do or say,” replied Allegri.


Allegri strikes back
Fillipo Simone
Two things:

1) About Pirlo. I must say, all maestro's I've encountered in my life are a bit eccentric, egocentric and specific. Take Boban who did what he did here in Zagreb while fighting with the Yugoslav police - and who always remained a bit of an eccentric. I'll never understand why he decided to leave Milan for Celta Vigo. Take Rui Costa who was a gentleman for most of the time, but also had his blackouts and could crack someones bones. Take Seedorf who's at the same time a gentleman and a "heavy" personality. So I understand Pirlo's behavior. He's hurt; but on the other side, he's gone too far in a few aspects. I understand him, yet I'm not completely with him.

2) Hmh. This Allegri response gives us the direct answer: Montolivo is our new creativity man, and I don't think we're planning on anyone else.
William405
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 13 2012, 01:04 PM) *
Two things:

1) About Pirlo. I must say, all maestro's I've encountered in my life are a bit eccentric, egocentric and specific. Take Boban who did what he did here in Zagreb while fighting with the Yugoslav police - and who always remained a bit of an eccentric. I'll never understand why he decided to leave Milan for Celta Vigo. Take Rui Costa who was a gentleman for most of the time, but also had his blackouts and could crack someones bones. Take Seedorf who's at the same time a gentleman and a "heavy" personality. So I understand Pirlo's behavior. He's hurt; but on the other side, he's gone too far in a few aspects. I understand him, yet I'm not completely with him.

2) Hmh. This Allegri response gives us the direct answer: Montolivo is our new creativity man, and I don't think we're planning on anyone else.


1)The thing is he changed his words,what he said before leaving,and after he won the scudetto with Juventus is totally different.It's like he was waiting to say "I told you so".If you want to say the truth about what happened,then be a man and say it from the start.One second he didn't have any motivation,another,Allegri didn't want me...etc

2)I don't mind Montolivo being our playmaker.And,Aquilani as his backup.Not so flashy,but better than seeing Muntari there for sure.Hopefully,we buy a creative AM though,and an anchor too...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (William405 @ May 13 2012, 11:13 AM) *
One second he didn't have any motivation,another,Allegri didn't want me...etc

Pretty much. The sad part is he expected us to give him a 3 year contract apparently. He should've been playing for free after his last 3 years. He owed the club big time and acted like we owed him. **** him.
drucurl
The level of pettiness and stupidity from Pirlo and $h!tlegri is legendary king.gif

To date the $h!t one doesn't appreciate the use of a guy with the skillset of P!rlo. The level of n00bism required to be in such a condition is awe inspiring. Even a P!rlo hater like myself has always acknowledged his assets. $h!telgri shows the class that he and !Bra have imbued into our squad by engaging in a butt hurt war of words with a former player that's publicly highlighting what an incompetent moron he is cool.gif

Of course there's always our uber-legend, Il Maestro himself....oh how I bow before thee. So many GREAT players have left Milan in years gone by. Not all under the best or fairest of circumstances....but none has been as caustic in their remarks about us as he has been. But heyyy he's a Milan legend right? so he's allowed to do whatever the f**k he wants as long as he's not the evil Seedorf cool.gif Speaking of Seedorf, he stuck with us through all our seasons even the classless boos by our own fans who let's face it, many of whom were jerks. I mean there were tons of other players we had that perpetually sucked @$$ but never got booed. I don't care what anyone says his being black had a LOT to do with it.

But i digress. An interesting thought we might want to ask is....why now? Why have the majority of our senatores decided to leave? Is it a coincidence that Seedorf, Nesta and Inzaghi have all had problems with $h!tlegri? If it were a case of clearing out the dead wood, which is long overdue anyway, how come most of these players are moving to other clubs when most desired to retire here? How come Yepes has renewed? In some lights my paranoia will make me see this as a form of protest against the $h!t one.

And finally for William405.....Pirlo did leave Milan with threats that he would prove himself. In the end, $h!tlegri helped him prove his point.
Zed.D
Pirlo said he had to change position on the pitch, so he said no thanks. that means Allegri wanted to use him... in a different position. not entirely surprising given that he uses Urby as an AM...
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 13 2012, 12:04 PM) *
Hmh. This Allegri response gives us the direct answer: Montolivo is our new creativity man, and I don't think we're planning on anyone else.


Yeah, I never expected us to sign anyone else in the first place. But, like William said, if Montolivo will be our main creative force, then we also need someone to back him up. Definitely not Muntari, but either Aquilani or Merkel. One of the two must stay at all cost!

QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 13 2012, 02:11 PM) *
Pirlo said he had to change position on the pitch, so he said no thanks. that means Allegri wanted to use him... in a different position. not entirely surprising given that he uses Urby as an AM...


I hear he's trying Abbiati as CB.
Zed.D
Pirlo in a position other than DLM is not that hard to imagine. the guy didn't even bother to give it a shot. "they wanted me to change my position so I said "no thanks" and chose Juventus". too much selfishness, not enough loyalty.
X-Offender
He did play as LCM against Brescia and Bologna last season, two of our best games overall. But I guess, at 32 and considering his physique and style of play, he preferred his beloved CDM position.
Jack Sparrow
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Andrea Pirlo's peerless pass-mastery could lift even the Trentside fog

Juventus's pageant with Notts County and the title–winning form of their regista epitomise a fine moment for the Old Lady


The first time I saw Andrea Pirlo was on a cold and fog-shrouded November evening in Monza in 2000, when he was a member of the Italy Under-21 team sent out to confront Howard Wilkinson's England selection. Only 11 minutes had been played when the referee abandoned the match but since that night Pirlo's quality has illuminated every ground on which he has played, and none more so than Juventus's new stadium, where he and his team-mates celebrated the Serie A championship on Sunday.

A byword for graceful creativity, Pirlo has been the most influential midfield player in Europe this season, bar none. Last summer he left Milan, his home for 10 glittering years in which, mostly under Carlo Ancelotti, he won two European Cups, two Uefa Super Cups, one Fifa Club World Cup and two Italian league titles, and where he had intended to finish his career. But Massimiliano Allegri, Ancelotti's latest successor, wanted to install a different sort of influence in the position Pirlo had made his own, at the base of midfield: someone more physical, more aggressive, such as Mark van Bommel or Massimo Ambrosini.

A one-year extension was the best Milan could offer when Pirlo's contract expired. The player reckoned that, at 32, three more years would be about right. Milan declined his suggestion and probably no greater misjudgment has been made since Real Madrid sold Claude Makélélé to make room for David Beckham. Once it became known that Pirlo was on the market, Juventus snapped him up. Their new coach, Antonio Conte, himself a former international midfield player of great distinction, saw Pirlo as the foundation of the side he was building to go with the club's new home.

Last September the stadium was inaugurated with a stylish gala. Following the speeches and the presentation of great figures associated with the club's history, from Giampiero Boniperti to Edgar Davids, a game took place between Conte's new team and Notts County, the current representatives of the club who, back in 1903, sent Juventus a set of the black and white striped shirts in which they have played ever since.

When you think of all the famous clubs who would have happily accepted such an invitation, the Barcelonas and Manchester Uniteds and Bayern Munichs, this was a gesture of great historical sensitivity on the part of Andrea Agnelli, Juve's 36-year-old president, the fourth member of his family to hold the post. It came in response to a tentative call from Jim Rodwell, Notts's chief executive, wanting to ask Juventus to help mark this year's 150th anniversary of the world's oldest professional football club. Certainly, Agnelli responded, but why don't you join our celebrations first?

And so it came to pass that the players and officials of a club in the third tier of the English game found themselves on a private jet and in a five-star hotel, all at the expense of hosts for whom their ancestors had done a small favour more than a century earlier. For that, as much as for anything else, I reckon Juventus fully deserve their success in recapturing the Serie A title, the reward for a deed of outstanding dignity and generosity.

Others will conclude that Juve's success in remaining unbeaten throughout the entire league season was more to do with the quality of Pirlo's passing. As he did for year after year in Milan's colours, the newcomer made himself constantly available to his team-mates, always there to receive the ball and move it on in the most relevant direction. He was compass and metronome rolled into one, and he did not get injured or suspended.

As the very promising Conte showed the extent of his tactical imagination by shuffling his team's formation from an initial 4-2-4 to 4-1-4-1, then to 4-2-3-1, and finally to an alternation between 4-3-3 and 3-5-2, Pirlo remained the keystone, utterly reliable and seemingly ageless. Only the colour of the stripes had changed.

Pirlo began his career as a classic No10, an attacking midfielder in the mould of Gianni Rivera or the young Roberto Baggio. The role did not quite suit him and it was while he was on loan from Internazionale, his first big club, back to Brescia, where he had started out, that the veteran coach Carlo Mazzone identified a new, deeper position from which he could direct the play. He became what Italians call a regista. Not having a word for it, we borrow a term from American football: the quarterback. Xabi Alonso and Paul Scholes are pretty good exponents but no one in recent times has come close to Pirlo's calm mastery and next month he will be a key figure in Cesare Prandelli's Italy at the Euro 2012 finals.

And so on Wednesday, four days before their team conclude a highly successful season with an appearance in the Coppa Italia final against Napoli, Agnelli and his fellow directors will open their new club museum, located in the Juventus Stadium (which really deserves a more resonant name). Among their guests will be Ray Trew, Notts County's owner, who rescued the club from their latest flirtation with oblivion two years ago, and Jim Rodwell. With their own anniversary functions already under way, the pair will be hoping to bring back news of a return fixture with the new champions of Italy before the start of next season. Imagine it: Andrea Pirlo at Meadow Lane. Just as long as the Trentside fog holds off …


God F2ckin dammit...he's like that ex-girlfriend who you had a nasty breakup with, but can't quite forget. Damn you Andy P! You broke my heart you sonnofabitch! dry.gif
Zed.D
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Pirlo: 'Italy are like Juventus'
By Football Italia staff

Andrea Pirlo is confident Italy can shine at Euro 2012 by taking inspiration from Juventus. “At Milan they thought I was finished, but here I am...”

The midfielder’s contract with the Rossoneri was allowed to expire a year ago and he revitalised his career by becoming decisive for Scudetto winners Juventus.

At Milan they thought I was finished, but here I am...” smiled Pirlo in a press conference on international duty with Italy.

“I don’t know if I will continue my Azzurri career until the 2014 World Cup. We’ll see if I am still useful and will still be called up.”

Cesare Prandelli has pledged that Pirlo will have a crucial role in the European Championships next month.

“Our objective is to go all the way in this competition. We are not among the favourites and we know that, but I am convinced Italy can finish in the top four.

“Spain are the reigning World and European Champions, so clearly they are the favourites. Then there are great sides like Holland, Germany and France.

“Italy have great inner strength. This side resembles Juventus and can go far, as we have everything we need to go far.

“We enjoy playing our football together, have quality and hunger, so those are our strengths. We aim to reach at least the semi-finals, because we are Italy and we can do it.

“Am I crucial? There are many strong players here and it’s not always true that the one with the most touches during a game is the most important. In any case, I am happy to take my share of the responsibility.

I have no problem changing position on the field, as I’ve always happily adapted both at club and international level. ("I had to change position on the pitch. So I said ‘no thanks’ to Milan and chose Juventus"). We’re used to playing in various systems, so Coach Prandelli will decide.”


Unfuckinbelievable. blink.gif
Fillipo Simone
Way to go. He needs a few more of these, and he'll be crossed off from my list forever.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 27 2012, 08:29 PM) *
Way to go. He needs a few more of these, and he'll be crossed off from my list forever.


Can we have a player dump? and dump this guy right in?
William405
It's really sad,he was one of my favorite players.
kurtsimonw
Quickly becoming one of my least liked players in football.
han2503
Yep, looks like Conte rubbed all over him. You'd have never expected such an attitude from Pirlo. I guess he really has crossed over to the dark side.

He should remember that he made his name at Milan and won everything there is to win in football while being a Milan player.
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