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Dracoris
The younguns are doing well!!
Bluesummers
Here's a signing we made in the primavera that was not announced:

Info:
Name: Simone Calvano
Born: 1993 (16, soon 17)
Club: AC Milan
Position: Midfielder


His Career
So, Calvano started his career by playing for Atalanta. Atalanta is regarded also as having building up the best youth players in Italy. Calvano impressed on many with his box-to-box play, his good shot and his vision. He was a part of the Italian U-17 team that participated in the U-17 youth championship in Nigeria. He was even selected as one of the seven with most potential of the '93 group by the Italian media. Calvano caught the eye of many big teams around Italy and eventually joined Milan in January '10.

He joined Milan alongside two other players in January - Benedict Didic and Houwei Ka Bamba.
Calvano had to wait for a while with his debut for Milan and finally made his debut in the Viareggio Tournament for about 2 months ago. He didn't get so many minutes there, but still impressed while he was getting
the minutes.
He is currently the youngest player in the Primavera Team (3 years younger than everybody else) and is slowly getting more and more playing time. He is currently fighting for a starting place with Strasser, who is one of the more ''experienced'' in this team and is also getting call-ups to the A-team.

video



edit:

As regarding the sources, you can find him on the list on this site. As the rest of the information goes, I have a good friend in Milan who I recieved the minor details from him.
Tennie
Wikipedia isn't a trustworthy source and the wikipedia site you linked doesn't include any information on Calvano but his name. How does this friend in Milan know this stuff? Where's his information from?

Which italian media group selected him as having potential?

He's regarded as having having good build up play by whom?

Also, Strasser is more of a defensive mid. This kid from what you describe is more of a creative mid - so why would they be interchangable?

il_diavolo_mtl
this sounds like a stupid question, but is strasser a highly ranked prospect or just some import that done well with the prima?
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 12 2010, 05:03 AM) *
Wikipedia isn't a trustworthy source and the wikipedia site you linked doesn't include any information on Calvano but his name. How does this friend in Milan know this stuff? Where's his information from?

Which italian media group selected him as having potential?

He's regarded as having having good build up play by whom?

Also, Strasser is more of a defensive mid. This kid from what you describe is more of a creative mid - so why would they be interchangable?


Its a forum, not an interview. You asked me to prove he exists, I did. Also that Wiki page is 100% correct; you can search the stuff up yourself if you don't believe me.

Also on the other info; like i said I have summarized what I have heard. If you don't like it, don't read it. I thought other members would be interested in some insight on who this guy is instead of just posting his name.


Also why do you post with two different accounts on the same page...... rolleyes.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 12 2010, 09:35 AM) *
this sounds like a stupid question, but is strasser a highly ranked prospect or just some import that done well with the prima?


At this point, I wouldn't put him with highly ranked prospect tag. He's miles behind zigoni, verdi, berreta, albertazzi. He's 19 too.
Tennie
Actually, what I asked was for you to provide sources for your story. Which you didn't.

And just so you're clear, the guidelines on posting news items state the following:

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Any and all news items must have your source mentioned in it.


Yours did not. A wikipedia entry mentioning the player's name does not give any of the other detailed information you mentioned in your story (recommendation by italian media, position played, u17 call ups, appearances at viareggio, fighting strasser for spot).

If you can provide sources for the following, please do so. If not, the post will be removed per board guidelines.
Bluesummers
But how can it be sourced when its my writing??? I understand what your saying, but its not possible. The only thing I can source would be the transfer of him and that article is long gone. I can't find it anywhere...

thats why I sourced wiki
Tennie
It's actually very nicely written, Blue.

The problem is when you bring up stuff like the Italian media rating him (which media? where? when? If they did, then there's an article somewhere.), his call ups (that's easily sourced if you look), his playing at Viareggio (really? which games? who'd he come in for? one of the few series of games of the primavera where news IS available), his fighting Strasser for a starting spot (really? according to who? do they even play the same position?). All this stuff is great, but there's no source listed for any of it so there's no real way to evaluate any of it.

EDIT: And the wiki link lists his name only. None of this other stuff. Also, wiki is wholly unreliable - anyone can go in and edit stuff, and people frequently do.
Jack Sparrow
Blue piqued my curiosity..and there are plenty of discussions about him online. I found this:
Il Pallonaro
...and...
Milan News
Tennie
And actually, he was mentioned by Stroppa in an interview today (I think it was today) on acmilan.com. Apparently, he's out for the rest of the season; surgery of some sort.
Tennie
The second leg of the quarters was played today (the first leg ending Catania 1-0 Milan).

FT: Milan 3-1 Catania (goals by Verdi, Schenetti, and Gaeta)

Milan go to on to the quarterfinals. 96.gif 96.gif 96.gif
William405
Gratz for the Young Lads!Glad to see verdi on the score sheet.
X-Offender
Inter, Juve and Roma out. It looks like our youngsters are doing pretty well this season.
Tennie
Here are the primavera player ratings from milannews. Granted, their ratings tend to be a little higher (and more fanboy-ish) than Gazzetta or datasport, but still...8.5 is awfully high for someone who hasn't scored a hat trick or somesuch.

(if folks want translation, the fish could probably do it later)


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Donnarumma 6: Incolpevole sul gol del suo omonimo, non corre nessun rischio particolare vista la pochezza in attacco degli etnei.

Ghringhelli 6: Gode di ampie praterie sulla sua fascia ma, una volta arrivato sul fondo, non riesce ad essere incisivo. Sbaglia un paio di volte in fase di copertura ma gli avversari non ne approfittano.

De Vito 6: Spinge tanto e copre bene ma, come il suo collega sulla fascia destra, sbaglia troppi cross. In fase difensiva non fa passare nessuno.

Romagnoli 6,5: Il capitano ritrova al suo fianco Albertazzi e sembra che la cosa non gli dispiaccia. Autentico muro ha però sulla coscienza il gol di Donnarumma che aveva portato il Catania sull’1-1.

Albertazzi 7: Il principino torna al centro della difesa e non ne sbaglia una. Elegante quando serve, difensore vecchio stile nei momenti concitati. Sicurezza.

Strasser 7: E’ la diga che fa da protezione alla difesa rossonera. Non sbaglia un appoggio che sia uno e gli vengono fischiati contro anche un paio di falli discutibili, più per la sua irruenza che per l’intervento in se. Riuscisse a frenarsi e ad entrare un po’ più pulito sul pallone nei contrasti sarebbe da prima squadra. Mastino.

Scampini 6: E’ il compagno di merende di Strasser in mezzo al campo ma troppe volte fa cilecca. Non è nella sua miglior giornata e mister Stroppa lo toglie nella ripresa. Spaesato. (Dal 25 st, Novinic 6)

Verdi 7,5: Pronti via e Magic Box mette la sua griffe sul tabellino dei marcatori appoggiando in rete un assist al bacio di Oduamadi. Sempre frizzante, al 40 del primo tempo ubriaca mezza difesa catanese venendo fermato dall’inclemenza e dall’occhio lungo dell’assistente che valuta fuori il pallone. Esce per infortunio ma fin quando resta in campo è sempre un pericolo. Ispirato. (Dal 1 st: Palibrk 6,5)

Oduamadi 8,5. Signori se in Francia hanno il TGV mister Stroppa vanta nella sua rosa la “Freccia Nera”. Autentico mattatore della giornata, l’esterno offensivo nigeriano fa impazzire chiunque gli si piazzi davanti. E’ lui a fornire a Verdi l’assist per il gol dell’1 a 0 saltando in dribbling, neanche fosse Alberto Tomba in superG, due difensori catanesi e colpisce un palo che grida ancora vendetta. Nella ripresa, con l’uscita di Verdi, si prende la squadra sulle spalle e serve a Schenetti il passaggio giusto per il 2 a 1. Sul 3 a 1 ha la grande occasione per la gloria personale ma il terreno infimo manda all’aria i suoi sogni di gloria. Velociraptor.

Schenetti 6,5: L’ultimo del trio dietro Gaeta parte troppo lezioso facendo imbestialire mister Stroppa ed il folto pubblico presente a Solbiate Arno. Ha però il grande merito di crederci sempre e a furia di provare trova il pertugio giusto, anche grazie alla complicità del portiere catanese, per il gol del 2 a 1. Viene sostituito da Stroppa e non la prende troppo bene ma la vittoria finale lava via anche l’arrabbiatura. Decisivo. (Dal 17’st Merkel, 6)

Gaeta 6,5: Il bomber di riserva sostituisce all’ultimo minuto Zigoni e prova a non farlo rimpiangere ma il gioco del Milan non è adatto al suo stile. In compenso ci mette tanta buona volontà e alla fine i suoi sforzi vengono premiati quando viene affossato in area di rigore da Maccarone. Sul dischetto va proprio lui e realizza il gol qualificazione. Provvidenza.

Stroppa 8: il mister, davanti alle molte defezioni in attacco, riesce a tirare fuori il meglio dai suoi e li guida, a suon di urlacci, alla meritata qualificazione.
Tennie
(from acmilan.com)

The Primavera will take part in the Ruhr Tournament starting this weekend. The tournament takes place in Dortmund, Germany and includes the following youth teams: Milan, FC Schalke 04, Borussia Dortmund, Kaizer Chiefs (Sud Africa), Bayern Monaco, Werder Bremen, FC scouser and Fenerbahce.

Milan will play Bayern tomorrow, Schalke on Friday, and the baby scousers on Saturday. The finals will be on Monday.
Fishdoll
(from acmilan.com)

96.gif 96.gif 96.gif The ragazzi beat the baby Bayern team 2-1, goals by Merkel and Gaeta! They play the Schalke youth squad today.
Fishdoll
Here's an interesting snippet from tuttomercatoweb on the 4 primavera kids Fester says will be joining the main squad.

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Martedì scorso l'Amministratore Delegato del Milan Adriano Galliani ha reso noto che dalla prossima stagione saranno aggregati alla prima squadra quattro ragazzi provenienti dalla squadra Primavera: Michelangelo Albertazzi (19), Rodney Strasser (20), Nmamdi Oduamadi (19) e Simone Verdi (17). La maggior parte dei tifosi rossoneri hanno accolto la notizia con freddezza, preoccupati dal fatto che il mercato del Milan possa essere già terminato con l'acquisto di Yepes e la promozione in prima squadra dei giovani virgulti. Ma chi sono veramente questi ragazzi? Che ruolo ricoprono? Potranno essere da subito protagonisti? Proviamo a conoscerli meglio.

Albertazzi può giocare sia come centrale di difesa che come terzino sinistro. Ha fatto tutta la trafila delle nazionali di categoria risultando essere sempre uno dei punti fermi. Negli ultimi anni non è migliorato quanto ci si aspettava, e al momento ha deluso un pò le attese. Per il calcio dei grandi forse meglio come terzino sinistro che come centrale. Ricorda un Criscito meno talentuoso; deve sicuramente migliorare sotto l'aspetto tattico e mentale.

Percorso inverso, invece, per Strasser, centrocampista centrale proveniente dalla Sierra Leone. Le sue azioni hanno subito un'impennata da quando ha imparato a tenere poco la palla tra i piedi e ad alternare passaggi orizzontali a passaggi verticali. Eccelle come mediano basso davanti alla difesa, non per niente è stato paragonato a Desailly. In campo mostra una grande personalità ed il futuro tra i professionisti è assicurato. Difficile dire se è già un giocatore da Milan, però vale la pena puntarci sopra. Deve limitare le entratacce, cosa in cui peraltro è già migliorato molto.

Oduamadi può giocare come punta centrale, ma il ruolo in cui rende al meglio è quello di attaccante esterno destro. Velocissimo e con un buon fisico, il ragazzo nigeriano è dotato anche di una buona tecnica. A volte tende a specchiarsi troppo e pecca di cattiveria sotto porta. La sua prestazione contro il Catania, nel ritorno degli ottavi di finale di Campionato Primavera, è stata impressionante.

Verdi è il talento. Attaccante esterno che può svariare su tutto il fronte d'attacco è decisamente la punta di diamante della Primavera. Ambidestro, tecnico, veloce......difetta soltanto di continuità e deve mettere su un pò di muscolatura nella parte superiore del corpo, ma per il resto ci siamo. Calcia le punizioni con entrambi i piedi e non ha paura di assumersi le responsabilità. Gli americani direbbero che "il cielo è il limite!". Può diventare uno dei giocatori italiani più forti in circolazione. Starà a lui e alla società gestire in maniera intelligente questo enorme patrimonio.


They seem to think that Verdi's the star of the group.
il_diavolo_mtl
since he doesn't have a player page and i don't where what his situation is with Lille, do we still own P-E audebayang, because he has been a revelation for lille his year and is arguably the Usain bolt of Ligue 1.
Fishdoll
Yep, I'm pretty sure we do own at least half of him, mtl.
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 22 2010, 11:01 AM) *
since he doesn't have a player page and i don't where what his situation is with Lille, do we still own P-E audebayang, because he has been a revelation for lille his year and is arguably the Usain bolt of Ligue 1.

wiki says he is on loan
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ May 22 2010, 11:01 AM) *
since he doesn't have a player page and i don't where what his situation is with Lille, do we still own P-E audebayang, because he has been a revelation for lille his year and is arguably the Usain bolt of Ligue 1.

wiki says he is on loan
d'Arc.LP
Football Manager too tongue.gif
Bluesummers
you can only do co-own within Italy. You can't do it with other countries. Therefore Aubmeyang is on loan.
kapa1
Yesterday night, in the Rhur Tournament 2010 in Dortmund, Milan were beaten 3-2 by Schalke 04. Oduamadi scored a brace for Milan. This afternoon at 16.20 there will be the match against Liverpool.
il_diavolo_mtl
aubamayang has looked REALLY sharp in his time with Lille though and would Look great as a backup winger along with Adiyiah!!
Fishdoll
(from acmilan.com)

QUOTE
PRIMAVERA, TORNEO RUHR 2010: MILAN-LIVERPOOL 1-1
22/05/2010
MILANO - E' terminata con il risultato di 1-1, nel Torneo Ruhr 2010 a Dortmund, la sfida tra Milan e Liverpool. In gol per la formazione rossonera Gaeta. Il Milan conquista così la finale che giocherà contro il Borussia Dortmund. Per consultare la tabella del torneo


[At the Ruhr 2010 Tournament in Dortmund, Milan drew 1-1 with the baby scousers. Milan's goal was scored by Gaeta. Milan wins its group and will play in the cup final against the primavera from Borussia Dortmund.]
Bluesummers
The Pros And Cons Of The Fantastic 4
Posted by BlancoRossonero on May 22, 2010 | 8 Comments



[b] [/b] ADRIANO GALLIANI said that four players from the Primavera squad of Giovanni Stroppa will join the first team next season.

The youngsters in question are defender Michelangelo Albertazzi, midfielder Rodney Strasser, and forwards Nnamdi Oduamadi and Simone Verdi. They are key players of the Primavera squad who won the TIM Cup and progressed into the Final Eight of the Campionato Primavera with a great comeback victory.

Their inclusion in the first team, as mentioned by the CEO, will bring freshness to an aged squad eager in recent years of young talent.

Albertazzi, central defender or full back, will definitely bring new life to the Rossoneri defense. He has yet to make his debut for the first team, though he has been called-up to the bench a number of times by former coach Leonardo. A season spent on the bench would not be good for a guy in need of playing time as much as possible. He must therefore agree with the project next AC Milan coach, so that he won’t be used solely for Coppa Italia games.

The same applies for Verdi and Oduamadi. The Nigerian, who debuted on the Derby della Madonnina on 26 July 2009, appears ready in the physical side but, nevertheless, find himself behind superstars such as Ronaldinho and Pato. He has shown great skill and a great eye for goal in his matches for the Primavera squad, though, and will surely be given playing time in the next season.

Regarding Verdi, perhaps the most talented in Stroppa’s squad, needs to gain weight, is still a bit too thin and light for the physicality of the Serie A. He made his debut in the Coppa Italia match against Novara on 13 January 2010.

Both could be important to the coming seasons, experiencing the “bigs” and may even surprise some of the skeptics. Despite their inexperience, the pair may make Milan regret signing Amantino Mancini, who arrived on loan from arch-rivals Inter and never excelled in his time with il Diavolo. Unconsciousness and the freshness, time and again, can be absolutely critical.

Strasser, physically and mentally, is more than ready to take the big step: not only more sophisticated in interdiction, but also greatly improved in terms of vision and the assists. The midfielder from Freetown, Sierra Leone, who made his debut in the Serie A match against Udinese on 21 December 2008, can provide fresh forces in a much experienced department, like the Milan midfield.

In conclusion, however, we must reiterate that the “Fantastic 4″, while bringing new life to Milan, should not be the only reinforcement for the next recruitment drive is not enough to bring the Devil to success.

By BlancoRossonero, Rossoneri Blog
kapa1
i think that verdi should play one more season for the primavera side, he is only 17
Bluesummers
QUOTE (kapa1 @ May 23 2010, 04:47 AM) *
i think that verdi should play one more season for the primavera side, he is only 17



True but he's really good. I'd almost say he's better than Paloschi. He'll be turning 18 July 12.
d'Arc.LP
How about de Vito ?
I heard he is very good.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ May 23 2010, 04:50 AM) *
How about de Vito ?
I heard he is very good.



He's a fullback. Yeah he's pretty good but I think he'll be loaned out. Albertazzi is another class above him but De Vito is still really good. He is 18 years old.


The big surprise though is Oudamadi. I'm surprised that Zigoni didn't get picked or Baretta.
d'Arc.LP
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ May 23 2010, 11:52 AM) *
He's a fullback. Yeah he's pretty good but I think he'll be loaned out. Albertazzi is another class above him but De Vito is still really good. He is 18 years old.


The big surprise though is Oudamadi. I'm surprised that Zigoni didn't get picked or Baretta.


Yeah me too.
In my FM team , they are the first i take from Primaveras. biggrin.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ May 23 2010, 04:54 AM) *
Yeah me too.
In my FM team , they are the first i take from Primaveras. biggrin.gif



Me too lol laugh.gif



But the weird thing is that we paid 1.2m for Zigoni and he seems to have disappeered of the map. Barettta is still in a co-own but we paid 700k for him.


I hope Galliani didn't waste more money on these guys like he did with the last 3 south american we signed, Viudez/cardaccio/mattioni.
d'Arc.LP
No, IMO Zigoni is very talented , I've seen some of his games.
I don't know about Beretta.

But maybe it's good for them to stay to Primaveras team for another season knowing we have a lot of strikers like Paloschi and Adyiah waiting for their chances and we have Inzaghi who is still complaining.
Fishdoll
The ragazzi are playing Samp in the quarters of the Primavera championship. It's Milan 2-1 Samp at halftime, both of the Milan goals scored by Oduamani. If your italian's decent you can follow text commentary on milannews.

EDIT: FT 2-2. It's gone to added time.

EDIT 2: Milan 2-3 Samp a.e.t.

Well fought, ragazzi. Get 'em next year!
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 2 2010, 05:13 PM) *
Get 'em next year!


That sounds familiar.
il_diavolo_mtl
bologna are looking to get Strasser on loan (or purchase) TMW
Linkman
I thought Zigoni was already part of the first team?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Linkman @ Jun 3 2010, 01:45 AM) *
I thought Zigoni was already part of the first team?


He is.
Fishdoll
(from acmilan.com) (cross posted in transfer thread)

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A.C. MILAN COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
03/06/2010
MILANO - L’A.C. Milan comunica di aver acquisito a titolo definitivo dall’U.C. Albinoleffe l’attaccante GIACOMO BERETTA e di aver ceduto, sempre a titolo definitivo, allo stesso Club il portiere DANIEL OFFREDI.


AC Milan announces that it has bought Giacomo Berretta (nb striker born 1992, plays w/primavera) from Albinoleffe and to have sold the full rights of keeper Daniel Offredi to Leffe in return.
han2503
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 3 2010, 03:26 PM) *
(from acmilan.com) (cross posted in transfer thread)

AC Milan announces that it has bought Giacomo Berretta (nb striker born 1992, plays w/primavera) from Albinoleffe and to have sold the full rights of keeper Daniel Offredi to Leffe in return.

I thought we bought him last summer, or was it just a co-own sort of thing? unsure.gif

Anyway from the clips I've seen of him, I'd say he's the most exciting of the bunch of Primavera's we brought in last summer. I wish we would have promoted him into the first team instead of Zigoni, don't really see anything special about him.
Fishdoll
(from acmilan.com)

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GIOVANISSIMI CAMPIONI D'ITALIA! BRAVI!
17/06/2010
MILANO - Complimenti ai Giovanissimi Nazionali neo campioni di Italia! I rossoneri, allenati da Bertuzzo, hanno vinto il titolo con un grande successo sulla Roma. A Montepulciano la finalissima tricolore si è chiusa sul 3-0 per i milanisti: doppietta di Galbusera, splendido il secondo gol, e rete finale di Petagna. Il Milan si aggiudica lo scudetto di categoria meritandosi gli applausi di tutto il club. Bravi ragazzi!


The Giovanissimi Nazionali (the 15 year olds) have won the scudetto for their age group, beating Roma in the final by a score of 3-0.

Well done to them!
nuh
QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Jun 18 2010, 11:29 AM) *
The Giovanissimi Nazionali (the 15 year olds) have won the scudetto for their age group, beating Roma in the final by a score of 3-0.
Well done to them!

does maldini play for that team?
ForzaMaldini
Well Done Lads! Finally a trophy for the rossoneri smile.gif

@Nuh,
Nope smile.gif Christian plays fot Giovanissimi Regionali A (under 14) and Daniel plays for Pulcini 2001 (under 10)
Linkman
Here's hoping we become the finest team in Europe by the time this lads make it for the first squad!
il_diavolo_mtl
QUOTE (Linkman @ Jun 19 2010, 05:08 PM) *
Here's hoping we become the finest team in Europe by the time this lads make it for the first squad!

we are dwarfed by the youth developpement of Inter/Juve/udinese/parma/atalanta/udinese/fiorentina And that's just in italy...
Jack Sparrow
An interesting article from a blog I visit often.

The videos at the end are what most will be interested in watching.

Milan Primavera
Bluesummers
thanks for the link jack. We have alot of talented youth players now, i wonder if the plan next year is to promote several of them when the old guard leave.



I think thats the best idea if we don't spend money. Let the kids go out and see what happens.
Jack Sparrow
I found this story on rossoneriblog which says that Rodney Strasser is being promoted my Max Allegri to be the vice-Ambrosini.

I think Rino is leaving. cry.gif
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