what do you guys make of this considering the current selecao squad? he will be 34 by then but hey roger milla was 42 when he played in 1994

Not happening. If he couldn't make it in 2010, there's no way in hell he could make it for 2014.

At first I thought what the heck, is he still that young? But he's 36 now.

:s who is 36?

Roger Milla, who else are we talking about?

Don't know. If Ganso is all that Brazil can offer, heck, I'd take a 40 year old Ronaldinho.

Oh my mistake I thought you were talking about Ronaldo. I should have been in bed way before I posted that.

Ganso has drifted off the radar for some time though, no? I think Oscar is Brazil's starting AM right now.

A kid who's a Chelsea sub you mean? He may be a talent, but not a starter. But the point is, they're pretty thin when it comes to good and proven creative players.

I thought Oscar was a starter at Chelsea.

Anyway, yeah, compared to the past, you're absolutely right.

Don't know. Against Everton he was a sub.

hehe .. hmmm though now that you've mentioned him...

Is that a recent pic?

yep x-off posted it in his thread. he went on some reality show and lost weight

from this
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/bin/6..._2_immagine.jpg

to this


and then he did this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci-bUbKOxB4

Rafael Van Der Vaart Splitting Up With Sylvie After Admitting To Hitting Her

Respect: Gone.

Totally.

what a douche

Low standards to strike a woman really. But I am more intrigued as to what caused this reaction from him?

Well if she's anything like Rihanna they'll be back together soon. And Rihanna got beat pretty badly.

It really doesn't matter what she did. No man should ever resort to this. Just disgusting!

If she hit him first then I wouldn't say he's completely unjustified, but I doubt that's what happened.

I still don't find that as an excuse. Her maybe slapping him is bad but still would never warrant him retalliating by hitting her.

I'd never hit a woman personally, but I know a lad who says if a bloke hits him, he'd hit them back. If women want to be treated equally, it'd be sexist not to hit her back.

If a woman bitchslaps me, then I'll bitchslap her back.

That's a good argument!! I wonder what the feminists' answer to that would be.

I know a few Spurs fans. One of them happens to be a Jew and he hates it. Apparently because they had a section of Jewish fans, when fans called them Yids, they basically started to call themselves it as a "That don't insult us, we'll use it ourselves!" type of defense. Now you have tens of thousands of white fans shouting Yids and it offends both Spurs Jews and none-Spurs fans Jews (Comedian David Baddiel is very outspoken against it).

Birmingham has a fairly large South-East Asian community and there's been a few occassions "you're just a town full of Pakis" has been shouted at us by the away support. Imagine Villa fans calling themselves the Pakis? IMO there's little difference. I don't think people would look kindly because 'Paki' is seen as more of an insult than 'Yid' - mainly because there's more Asians than Jews over here, and I don't see why it's acceptable really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIvJC1_hKt8 and thats the end of that.

Racism end of story.

I didn't know the full backstory. But then I guess it's the same as 'n*gger'. Originally an insult which the target then started calling each other.

It's a very perverse direction to take; it's odd when it starts as a genuine racist or anti Semitic insult, gets adopted by whoever is being called it then is regarded as offensive if others use it again but ok if the target uses it among themselves.

How exactly do you clarify and clear THAT one up!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ny-Welbeck.html

But how? I thought only evil Russia and the backward countries of EE have a problem with racism?

Every country has a problem with racism. Usually you only hear about Russia and eastern European countries, in my opinion, because they're majority white and it's politically correct to complain about what the white man does.

Everyone plays in Barcelona or Madrid. No Pirlo though, really?

and lonley old Falcao. The shortlist was pretty horrid though..

Marcelo? Ramos? Pique? I know lot better then those.

Iniesta hasn't even been that good for Barca in 2012 and he's considered in the top 3 this year? He had a good Euros for Spain, but the end of last season for Barca he was not good at all.

Marcelo has barely even played since May.

Just goes to show what a joke these awards are nowadays.

That XI couldn't be any more biased. I think every football fan (including Madid/Barca fans) can see that. it's yet another Madrid/Barca name but Jordi Alba deserved it way more than frickin' Marcelo. he was one of the revelations of 2012 without a doubt.

Fourth consecutive Ballon d'Or for Messi. This must be killing Ronaldo.

Just FIFA marketing though really. Who the hell is Jordi Alba? He's a no name still really. VDB winning the Manager award over Jose is hilarity also.

FIFA must employ actual monkeys, clowns and donkeys to pick these award. Oddly, about the only thing I agree with is Messi this year. Though Ronaldo and Sneijder should've won the last 2. But it's all about FIFA trying to create something.

Isn't it given mostly by votes from NT coaches & captains and journalists?

Anyway, Messi is a great football player but he does need some fashion tips

Yeah, captains and NT managers have an important say in it.

Found it. Here are the votes if anyone interested:
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/ballond%27...2-bycountry.pdf
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/ballond%27...ards-byrank.pdf

Pirlo 7th
Alonso 11th

Alonso in FIFPro team, Pirlo not. Good job FIFA!

How Pirlo could be kept out of that list after his season with Juve and the Euros is beyond me.

Good god, Messi's tuxedo makes my eyes bleed. Must be the same genius that came up with Barcelona's second kit.

What do you guys think about Messi sending a signed shirt to Muller. an arrogant, condescending, patronizing, etc. gesture or a nice, classy, respectful gesture?


I don't know why some say it's arrogant. while Muller may be a legend and all that, Messi is not exactly a nobody himself.. why shouldn't he send a signed shirt with a nice massage to Muller? because he's 25, or because he hasn't won enough with Argentina? both are completely irrelevant.

I don't see anything wrong with it, Messi surpassed Muller's record. Both are great, each in his respective time.

because he never asked for it? If you're going to send a shirt out, give it to a fan, not somebody who won't care.

It can be interpreted both ways, but Messi isn't a pr!ck like Ronaldo, so I consider it an honorable gesture.

Ronaldo scores all his goals drugless. Oh yes, I went there.