Jack Bauer
Jan 11 2011, 10:10 PM
Too bad, I wanted Xavi to win. Always liked him.
Fillipo Simone
Jan 11 2011, 11:23 PM
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jan 11 2011, 10:10 PM)

Too bad, I wanted Xavi to win. Always liked him.
Who doesn't? Hell of a player.
X-Offender
Jan 12 2011, 12:49 AM
I guess nobody saw Messi winning it. Twice in a row, quite an achievement for a 23 year old.
kurtsimonw
Jan 12 2011, 04:54 AM
Platini again trying to push through the 'no debt' thing. While his intentions are good, it'll hurt football more than help it in the long run.
At the moment, teams that have rich owners have an unfair advantage over other clubs, which is fair enough, I agree with it. But the 'no debt' thing gives an unfair advantage to CL teams and big City teams. I've heard clubs earn around £20m for making the CL, so how the hell are teams meant to compete with that? It'll just mean the same teams qualify for the CL every year, especially if those clubs are big City teams and are likely to get more fans/sell more merchandise.
I think what the higher ups need to understand is that football is a losing business, teams rarely ever make a profit, so what's he going to do? Ban everyone from Europe?
I think football somewhat needs wreckless spenders to break the status quo. Look at City and Spurs in England, due to them spending a combined total of around £800m in the last half decade or so, they've broken the regular top 4 and it at least means there's changes near the top.
Look at leagues like Scotland and Spain now, do they honestly think it'll help? Rangers/Celtic/Madrid/Barca are easily the most supported clubs with the biggest income, plus CL money to boot. It'll just ensure nobody can compete with them if nobody else in the league is allowed to spend.
kurtsimonw
Feb 4 2011, 12:12 PM
Not goodQUOTE
Broadcasters cannot stop customers using cheaper foreign satellite TV services to watch Premier League football, an EU legal adviser has said.
Not good. Easier to watch games - smaller tv deals - less money clubs - even lower attendances for clubs - very, very bad for football. Isn't the EU great? It's done nothing but destroy our country from day 1 and now it threatens to ruin our football! Yay!
acid911
Feb 4 2011, 12:25 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 4 2011, 04:12 PM)

Not good. Easier to watch games - smaller tv deals - less money clubs - even lower attendances for clubs - very, very bad for football. Isn't the EU great? It's done nothing but destroy our country from day 1 and now it threatens to ruin our football! Yay!
But then again, that's always the case with unions.

Rich and powerful countries will be at a loss one way or another most of the time. Not just England but any big country in Europe, they'll have to give much and expect less. And it is to be expected, whether it be football matters of financial.
Yes everyone is ruined... the world is ending...
kurtsimonw
Feb 4 2011, 02:01 PM
If it means the end of the EU, good.
not just good, that would be great! the moment the EU is broken up everything will be fixed.
kurtsimonw
Feb 4 2011, 02:22 PM
Does that mean Andy Murray will just disappear?
no, better, everyone will get to start their day by punching him in the face!
Fillipo Simone
Feb 4 2011, 02:46 PM
What are you two talking about? Are you serious?
kurtsimonw
Feb 4 2011, 02:47 PM
Andy Murray disappearing? Not serious, though it'd be nice.
The end of the EU? I'd struggle to think of many better things that could happen to Europe.
Fillipo Simone
Feb 4 2011, 02:51 PM
QUOTE
The end of the EU? I'd struggle to think of many better things that could happen to Europe.
Wait...you mean Britain...no...Europe...Britain...huh?
Oh, now I got it. You mean Great Britain! Like 4 centuries of world dominance wasn't enough, ha?
kurtsimonw
Feb 4 2011, 03:02 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 4 2011, 01:51 PM)

Wait...you mean Britain...no...Europe...Britain...huh?
Oh, now I got it. You mean Great Britain! Like 4 centuries of world dominance wasn't enough, ha?
Sorry, I don't follow?
I don't want Britain in the EU. I really don't see how that translates to me wanting Britain to have World domination.
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 4 2011, 04:02 PM)

Sorry, I don't follow?
I don't want Britain in the EU. I really don't see how that translates to me wanting Britain to have World domination.

Shut up man, you're obviously a megalomaniac thinking of world domination, it's clear.
and you're racist!
Milan Are Brilliant
Feb 4 2011, 03:42 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 4 2011, 11:12 AM)

Well why should any of us pay legally for the Sky TV package, I know loads of people with dodgy cards, foreign satellite, I was under the pretence that was illegal in this country.
Well there's no chance that anyone watching foreign streams should be punished anymore.
Fillipo Simone
Feb 4 2011, 11:11 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 4 2011, 03:02 PM)

Sorry, I don't follow?
I don't want Britain in the EU. I really don't see how that translates to me wanting Britain to have World domination.

Well, why wouldn't Britain pay the price once; I don't think the EU alone is a failiure. There are countries who belive in the EU, and who obviously prosper from it. Why not grant them the chance, even if it means France, Britain or Germany suffering a bit more?
One of the biggest british issues are the politicians. Ever since Ms. Thatcher there's been no qualified PM.
kurtsimonw
Feb 4 2011, 11:36 PM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 4 2011, 10:11 PM)

even if it means France, Britain or Germany suffering a bit more?
This is exactly why I don't want us in the EU. Why the heck should we suffer as a country? Madness, as before I'm just so thankful people here saw sense and voted against the Euro. At least we have a little distance from this joke.
Fillipo Simone
Feb 5 2011, 12:20 AM
Even if it helps others?
Locke Lamora
Feb 5 2011, 12:40 AM
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 5 2011, 12:20 AM)

Even if it helps others?
Does it now, really? Last time I checked the UK has quite enough problems to deal with already without having to shoulder the burdens of the rest of the continent.
Rossoneri7
Feb 5 2011, 02:17 AM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 26 2010, 01:03 PM)

It certainly means more to South American clubs. In the same way that the UEFA Super Cup means more to the UEFA Cup winner than the European Cup winner. The lesser team wants to prove something.
huh
And who said South American teams are second class ? They are not as rich as European, but they have teams oozing raw talent that could walk through any major European league.
kurtsimonw
Feb 5 2011, 02:27 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 5 2011, 01:17 AM)

huh
And who said South American teams are second class ? They are not as rich as European, but they have teams oozing raw talent that could walk through any major European league.
I can't agree. I'm not getting into this again though. I think the top European leagues are far better than any leagues in the Americas, I'm sure others disagree.
Rossoneri7
Feb 5 2011, 02:39 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 4 2011, 05:10 PM)

and you're racist!
Thank you
X-Offender
Feb 8 2011, 02:57 PM
kurtsimonw
Feb 9 2011, 03:57 AM
Thiago Motta called up for Italy and will make his debut against Germany.
I would usually go down the 'he is not Italian!' route, but that doesn't matter. He's already had 2 caps for the full Brazilian team, how can he now go and play for Italy?
The past 12 months have really begun to put me off International football in a huge way. It's just becoming a joke.
X-Offender
Feb 9 2011, 04:24 AM
I think his parents have some Italian ties, or something like that. In fact, I think he's had an Italian passport for a long time. But yeah, the guy was born and raised in Brazil, and then developed his football career in Spain, at Barcelona. I don't really count him as an Italian.
kurtsimonw
Feb 9 2011, 02:30 PM
That isn't even my main issue with it to be honest, it's the fact that he's already played International football with a different country.
Zed.D
Feb 9 2011, 03:19 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 9 2011, 06:27 AM)

I would usually go down the 'he is not Italian!' route, but that doesn't matter. He's already had 2 caps for the full Brazilian team, how can he now go and play for Italy?
Are you 100% sure about his full Brazil caps?! maybe they were unofficial friendlies or something and that doesn't count?
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 8 2011, 05:27 PM)

Wow...
kurtsimonw
Feb 9 2011, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 9 2011, 02:19 PM)

Are you 100% sure about his full Brazil caps?! maybe they were unofficial friendlies or something and that doesn't count?
I think I read they were in the North American championships where Brazil were an invited team, so they were definitely in competitive games. I presume it's the North American equivilent of the Euros/Copa America?
Fillipo Simone
Feb 9 2011, 08:33 PM
It's a complete disgrace.
TriniKing_CE
Feb 10 2011, 12:42 AM
It was in the Concacaf | Gold Cup competition.
FIFA excuse is that Brazil's entire team was 23 and under (despite the rules admitting full string NTs)
No one told Brazil to pick an U-23 side!
kurtsimonw
Feb 10 2011, 01:02 AM
That's pathetic, even for FIFA.
It's a full International competition, therefore a full International cap. FIFA just making things up as they go along, surprise, surprise.
X-Offender
Feb 10 2011, 01:14 AM
Another episode of Kurt vs. FIFA-UEFA.
Locke Lamora
Feb 10 2011, 01:16 AM
So... the logic is that a U-23 player doesn't really have a nationality? In that case I say let's fork out some of that oil money and get Müller, Khedira, özil and Agüero. EURO 2012 here we come!
Milan Are Brilliant
Feb 10 2011, 01:19 AM
Is a bit of a joke.
International football has more transfers than domestic football these days.
Rossoneri7
Feb 10 2011, 12:22 PM
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 10 2011, 03:19 AM)

Is a bit of a joke.
International football has more transfers than domestic football these days.
Yeah ... Did you know 80% of Qatar's NT players are imported
Milan Are Brilliant
Feb 14 2011, 07:39 AM
So I'm hearing Ronaldo has retired, and I'm not talking about the spice boy.
Jack Bauer
Feb 14 2011, 08:07 AM
QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Feb 14 2011, 10:39 AM)

So I'm hearing Ronaldo has retired, and I'm not talking about the spice boy.
He's going to announce it today.
acid911
Feb 14 2011, 11:59 AM
X-Offender
Mar 15 2011, 11:51 PM
Guys, I'm looking for a link with the most popular football clubs in the world. I've been searching Google but I can't find anything. Anyone can help?
acid911
Mar 16 2011, 05:19 AM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2011, 03:51 AM)

Guys, I'm looking for a link with the most popular football clubs in the world. I've been searching Google but I can't find anything. Anyone can help?
Well the reason for that is because no one has done a survey of this sorts, at least none that I know of. And whoever did this will probably pool a lot of different statistics together.

I fail to see a group/company doing a worldwide survey in hundreds of millions across the world to determine the most popular football club. Well maybe FIFA/UEFA but that too does not seem likely any time soon. One way to gauge the popularity is check out the revenue of a club, generally the higher the sales from shirts/merchandise/tickets, even sponsorships and TV rights, the more popular a club is. And then there is the techy side of things. How many visitors the club's official website pulls from across the world. This link should get you started:
Top European Football Clubs Have Global Fan BaseMost links you will find are plain old fans babbling and squabbling.

Ask any Roma fan and he will say that his club makes the cut when it comes to top 10 global fan base. When in reality it will probably find it hard to make the top 20. The big ones are given, of course, the ones at the very top (with Milan included), just check the link above to get a bit of an idea. And keep searching.
Jack Sparrow
Mar 16 2011, 06:03 AM
Newcastle.

Even the japanese are screaming our name.
X-Offender
Mar 16 2011, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the effort, acid.
acid911
Mar 16 2011, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2011, 06:47 PM)

Thanks for the effort, acid.
Thank yous on a postcard, please!

Seriously, though, don't mention it. Glad to be of help.
Zed.D
Mar 30 2011, 10:43 AM
Jack Sparrow
Mar 30 2011, 11:00 AM
Must have been his last wishes or something? Or maybe...it's just an empty coffin.
acid911
Mar 30 2011, 11:20 AM
Um, weird?
d'Arc.LP
Mar 30 2011, 02:54 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 30 2011, 11:00 AM)

Must have been his last wishes or something? Or maybe...it's just an empty coffin.

A 17-year-old fan of Colombian side Cucuta Deportivo was shot dead while playing in a neighborhood park on Saturday -- allegedly by hired assassins. So on Sunday, his fellow members of the Barra del Indio fan group took a coffin supposedly filled with his corpse to the club's match against Envigado.
CHU-LIP
Mar 30 2011, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 30 2011, 03:54 PM)

A 17-year-old fan of Colombian side Cucuta Deportivo was shot dead while playing in a neighborhood park on Saturday -- allegedly by hired assassins. So on Sunday, his fellow members of the Barra del Indio fan group took a coffin supposedly filled with his corpse to the club's match against Envigado.
Supposedly? So not necessary true?
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