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arivanjj
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 8 2007, 05:43 PM)
As Alexandre Pato cannot compete in official tournaments until January 2008, this just leaves Pippo Inzaghi, Alberto Gilardino and youth team player Willy Aubameyang.

just fantastic!
Zed.D
What the hell is going on?! we shouldn't ever totally rely on injury prone players like Inzaghi, Ronaldo, Ambrosini, etc. no matter how good they are.

That IS a big blow to play the next three or four matches without Ronaldo...
KillerMax
Oh my God, I did not see this coming... ohmy.gif

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misha
I'm not worried. We have Willy !!!
Rossoneri7
He is still schedualed to play against Siena ... Whatever happens, I think this will pay off in the long run. i.e. Moscow 08 devil.gif devil.gif

EDIT: It will be 2 weeks till he is back, still it is only better that he takes his time.
redbabies
I just want an official statement from Milan to clarify all this.

How comes MilanLab makes such mistakes, while it is considered one of the best (if not the best) club Lab's in the world.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (redbabies @ Sep 8 2007, 09:10 PM)
I just want an official statement from Milan to clarify all this.

How comes MilanLab makes such mistakes, while it is considered one of the best (if not the best) club Lab's in the world.
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Well it is the best around Europe ... I mean, look at Inzaghi rolleyes.gif

But maybe Ronaldo needed to take another advice ... It is normal. It doesn't mean MilanLab don't know what they are doing.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 8 2007, 01:48 PM)
It doesn't mean MilanLab don't know what they are doing.
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It kind of does actually...
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 9 2007, 01:40 AM)
It kind of does actually...
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How so ..
KillerMax
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 8 2007, 04:42 PM)
How so ..
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Well, I know if the same thing happened to me, I wouldn't be able to trust those guys again. I bet his furious with MilanLab right now. I know personally how annoying this issue can be. Dealt with it for 2 years.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 9 2007, 01:48 AM)
Well, I know if the same thing happened to me, I wouldn't be able to trust those guys again. I bet his furious with MilanLab right now. I know personally how annoying this issue can be. Dealt with it for 2 years.
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Well I'm sorry for that ... But my question is, how would Ronaldo taking a second opinion on his injury mean MilanLab don't know what they are doing ?! There is no correlation there my friend.

If I get an injury and one doctor says I need an operation, I wont just stick with what he said. I would get another doctor's opinion, that doesn't mean the first doctor is bad. It is something almost everyone does.

The media is the one aiming to hit at MilanLab, just to sell. I know this because MilanLab has worked wonders for many players, it has even revived careers. It is no wonder our 30+ players keep playing at the highest level.
KillerMax
I do like MilanLab, but as it turns out, they were giving Ronaldo the wrong treatment. And that's a little scary if you ask me.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 9 2007, 02:05 AM)
I do like MilanLab, but as it turns out, they were giving Ronaldo the wrong treatment. And that's a little scary if you ask me.
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Then it's good that Ronaldo decided to take a second opinion then smile.gif

One mistake out of several hundred treatment, well I think it is a one-off in my book.
armiss
what happened to Ronaldo ? what Scandal ????????????????????
Fillipo Simone
Here:

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Ronaldo Injury Chaos: Galliani Speaks As Brazilian Remains in Rio

Adriano Galliani has allowed El Fenomeno to stay on in Rio to complete his recovery, but backed Milan's medical team.

Milan superstar Ronaldo seems no closer to solving his knee-injury riddle after it was revealed that he would be remaining in Brazil for at least a couple more days.

The former Real Madrid and Internazionale striker arrived in Rio de Janeiro on Friday to meet with Jose Luiz Runco, doctor of the Brazilian national football team.

This caused controversy in Italy, after it was reported that Runco was unhappy with the course of treatment that Ronaldo had obtained from Milan medical staff.

El Fenomeno received lengthy treatment on his knee throughout Friday night and much of Saturday and now Milan doctor Massimiliano Sala has flown out to Brazil to check on the condition of the club’s star marksman.

Speaking to the Gazzetta dello Sport, Milan vice-president, Adriano Galliani expressed his trust in the Milan medical team, whilst also giving Ronaldo the green light to stay in Rio a little while longer.

“Yesterday morning Meersseman (head of Milan’s medical team) telephoned me and told me it was probably better if Ronaldo stays in Brazil for another day or so and I gave my consent,” Galliani stated.

“I have all the trust in the Milan medical team. I do not really believe that by Ronaldo staying in Brazil for another couple of days it will really make a big difference in opening up the case.

"Nevertheless I am not entirely displeased. Of course, I am a little upset but on the whole I am serene about the situation,”

Galliani added. It is speculated that there may be another reason as to why the World Cup’s all-time record goalscorer has still not returned to Italy.

As Ronaldo has a problem with his metabolism, it is believed that it would not be beneficial for the striker to have to endure two long intercontinental flights in quick succession.

Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti had confidently predicted that he expected Ronaldo to be back in action against Siena next Saturday, although this now appears highly unlikely.

The Rossoneri currently have just three fit senior strikers on their books; Champions League hero Filippo Inzaghi, the goal-shy Alberto Gilardino and rookie youngster Willie Aubameyang.
KillerMax
Ronnie recovery delayed again

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The mystery surrounding Milan hitman Ronaldo’s injury has deepened with news that he may be sidelined for another month.

When the Selecao star reported a pain in his thigh on July 31, it was expected that he would return to action in time for the start of the campaign.

However, Ronaldo’s recovery has been painfully slow, prompting him to consult the national side’s doctor in Brazil, who criticised his Milan counterparts for their treatment of his complaint.

While Italian doctors believed that Ronaldo’s injury was a mere strain, it has now been revealed to be a much more serious rupture.

The Diavolo medical team now seem willing to admit that they initially made an error in their diagnosis, but they are demanding that the ex-Inter man return to Milanello.

The saga may yet turn ugly if the 30-year-old continues to snub his club’s request and boss Carlo Ancelotti’s assertion that Ronaldo would be fit for the September 15 clash with Siena looks increasingly far-fetched.

Latest estimates suggest that the No 99 will need at least another month to get over his injury woes and could return for Week 7’s trip to the Stadio Olimpico to face Lazio.


HAHA!!! In your face Milan management! IN YOUR FACE!!
dst
This whole story has really made me sad... not that Ronaldo won't play for a month or so but the supposed (reported) anger of his towards the Milan doctors and the whole mess that seems to have been caused. These things do not happen in Milan...
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 10 2007, 01:40 PM)
This whole story has really made me sad... not that Ronaldo won't play for a month or so but the supposed (reported) anger of his towards the Milan doctors and the whole mess that seems to have been caused. These things do not happen in Milan...
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No they don't .. And ur right, it is sad!
misha
What's sad that we have just two fit strikers and one of them is Gila. What's also sad that it was expected.
Jack Sparrow
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What's sad that we have just two fit strikers and one of them is Gila. What's also sad that it was expected.


What's sad is how wrong y'all are gonna be about him. Alberto Gilardino....number 11. Remember the name!! devil.gif

Cometh the hour...cometh the man....
bigmacmtl
having three 3 serie a quality strikers was always going to be playing with fire especially when two of those we're two of the most injury prone high profile strikers of the past 3-4 years. with or without the poor decisions of the doctors which worsened the situation, theres is no doubt our management made an extremely idiotic decision which puts us in a extremely dangerous in the beginning of the season rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
I reckon this was what Ancelotti meant when he said Gourcuff would get more playing time, since Kaka would be playing second striker.
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 10 2007, 12:52 PM)
I reckon this was what Ancelotti meant when he said Gourcuff would get more playing time, since Kaka would be playing second striker.
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ya i'm kinda excited to see gourcuff start. but we do have our backs against the wall and if kaka goes down then we will be in a crisis. why thank you galliani!!
Tennie
Er. We really do have our backs against the wall. Pirlo may be hurt as well. He trained in the gym today instead of with the rest of the azzurri.
Jack Sparrow
Your stuffed fish talking again...tongue.gif

Andy P ought to be fine...though it wouldn't suprise me to see Rino-Emerson-Ambro with Gourcuff as a sub in the 78th minute. Rest of the formation unchanged.
Tennie
Hey, don't diss the fish! Or he won't send you a postcard from San Siro!

(I hope you're right about the midfield. But if Pirlo is rested for this one, Gourcuff should certainly get the start).
KillerMax
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 10 2007, 12:18 PM)
Gourcuff should certainly get the start
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Blasphemy!

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misha
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Ronaldo faces doping probe

Ronaldo’s injury saga has taken another twist after allegations from the Italian National Olympic Committee President that his treatment is a form of doping.

Milan's Brazilian hitman has been injured since July 31 and has become increasingly frustrated as his recovery date has been repeatedly pushed back.

What was initially expected to be a routine thigh strain has now been revealed to be a much more serious complaint.

Reportedly disillusioned with the efforts of Milan’s medical team, Il Fenomeno opted to travel to Brazil to consult his national side’s doctor Jose Luis Runco, much to the chagrin of the Diavolo.

Runco accused the Rossoneri of misdiagnosing Ronaldo’s condition and a new course of treatment was undertaken, but now Runco’s methods are under the spotlight.

The procedure allegedly involves injections of protein strands from healthy blood into damaged tissue to encourage growth of damaged tissue – a process that Luigi Frati believes is a form of doping.

"This kind of therapy is surely doping," he was quoted as saying when questioned by the Press yesterday.

Ronaldo is due to return to Milan within the next 48 hours, but the man in charge of anti-doping procedure in Italy Ettore Torri has suggested that there may be an inquiry into his treatment.

"I am waiting for news and there is no guarantee that we won't launch an investigation," Torri told Ansa on Monday evening
Warchant
^ read that this morning...absolutely amazing!
Rossoneri7
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Ancelotti sick of Ronaldo saga


Ronaldo is on his way back to Italy, but controversy rages over his possibly illegal treatment and Carlo Ancelotti snapped at the Milan medical staff.

The Coach had said Ronaldo would be able to start this Saturday’s Serie A match against Siena, but instead he has been ruled out for around a month after flying to Brazil for specialist gene therapy.

“How is Ronnie? Ask Professor Meersseman and the medical staff,” said a visibly irritated Ancelotti.

“I was told he would be ready on Monday September 10, then I was told Wednesday. I am still waiting…”

The Rossoneri admitted they misdiagnosed Il Fenomeno’s injury, but even the treatment he is receiving at the hands of Selecao medical staff is causing controversy.

‘Growth Factor’ involves taking out Ronaldo’s blood, treating it in the laboratory to extract the platelets and re-injecting them into the point of the muscular or ligament lesion to encourage a faster recovery process.

He has already undergone the treatment and is on a flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, where he will continue his journey to Milan in the morning.

Yet there are questions over whether or not this system constitutes doping, as it is in some ways similar to the banned EPO.

“The international rules are not yet clear on this matter,” explained Doctor Pino Capua, the President of the FIGC Anti-Doping Commission.

“As the Federation we made a specific request to Wada in 2005, but did not receive a reply, because this is a scientifically delicate situation.

“In reality the results of this type of therapy have not yet been seen. I think it is understandable that there isn’t clarity in terms of institutions around the world.”


Football Italia


Carlo sure seems pissed off, on the whole ordeal. And Carlo is the type of coach that would bench a player (no matter what status) ... I just hope this doesn't go to far.

p.s. If they ban Ronaldo, it will be a rough ride till that January window.
Bluesummers
its just not fair, we are suffering so much miss- fortune sad.gif
Zed.D
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 12 2007, 09:30 AM)
its just not fair, we are suffering so much miss- fortune sad.gif
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Let that bald headed faggot suffer, he's the one who always tried to make Milan's attack look complete, while it was not.
misha
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 12 2007, 09:00 AM)
its just not fair, we are suffering so much miss- fortune sad.gif
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That's the risk Milan took when they choose to stay with only 3 strikers, until January, while two of them are injury prone and the third can't score.
dst
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Runco denies Ronnie doping
Wednesday 12 September, 2007

Ronaldo’s long-running injury saga may have finally reached its conclusion as his doctor in Brazil has revealed no new treatment was used.

The Brazilian international has endured a frustrating spell since reporting a thigh pain at the end of July.

Initial treatment in Milan failed to inspire the desired recovery, prompting the 30-year-old to turn to his national side’s doctor Jose Luis Runco in Brazil, much to the Diavolo’s chagrin.

Runco changed the diagnosis of Ronaldo’s condition and criticised his Italian counterparts’ efforts, but a rumour spread that he was using an experimental treatment.

The method in question involves the injection of blood cells into damaged tissue, a similar technique to EPO – the stimulation of the red blood cell producing hormone.

As the technique is still in its infancy and at an experimental stage there is yet to be a definitive ruling on its legality.

Italian National Olympic Committee representatives Ettore Torri and Luigi Frati stirred controversy by speculating that such a treatment was a form of doping and should be investigated.

However, Runco has now revealed that no such method was used and Ronaldo has returned to Milanello to begin a conventional recovery.

“Ronaldo didn’t need the experimental treatment so we have opted for a more traditional and safer method,” the respected doctor told Telelombardia.

“The muscle is improving, but it will need another two or three weeks to start truly healing. I have explained the best course to Rossoneri doctor Massimiliano Sala so the recovery can take place in Italy.”

Carlo Ancelotti’s faith that Ronaldo will be fit to start against Siena this weekend has proven to be misplaced, but he should be ready for action within the next month.

While the striking star’s thigh will heal, it may take longer for the damage to his relationship with his club to recover after the public embarrassment he heaped upon the medical staff in Milan.


::channel4::
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 12 2007, 07:00 AM)
its just not fair, we are suffering so much miss- fortune sad.gif
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It's not only miss-fortune. We/our board created that (miss) fortune. Beside of scoring wonderful goals and being one of the best world footballers, Ronaldo is well known for his injuries. Now, what will happen if Pippo goes injuried as well...I see that as a possibility, no a pure fiction?? We stay on Kaka, oh and yes AG.
Fillipo Simone
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Sacchi Slams Ronaldo's Doctor Visit

Legendary ex-Milan coach Arrigo Sacchi has hit out at Rossoneri striker Ronaldo for travelling to Brazil to get treatment on his troublesome thigh injury.

The former Azzurri boss, who took Italy to the final of USA 94’, claims that the Brazilian’s actions have caused unnecessary friction within the club. 

Ronaldo flew out to Rio de Janeiro last Friday to see Brazil national team doctor Jose Luiz Runco and personal physiotherapist Bruno Mazziotti. The two medics subsequently claimed that the Milan medical team had given the star the wrong form of treatment. 

“I think that a player who goes to see his own personal doctor can obtain very little sympathy,” Sacchi explained.  “It causes friction between the club doctors and the club itself as it puts the merits of the medical staff into question.” 

The ex-Parma tactician also offered his opinion on new Brazilian signing Alexandre Pato. The 18-year-old, nicknamed ‘The Duck’, was signed from Internacional in the summer. The striker is described as a star in the making but is ineligible to play for the Rossoneri until January. 

“In January, Pato will arrive. I do not know the player personally but Carlo Ancelotti tells me he is a great player,” Sacchi concluded.
Fillipo Simone
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14/09/2007 12:58


Galliani: We Can Manage Without Ronaldo

Milan general manager Adriano Galliani has stated that the Rossoneri can cope without injured Brazilian star Ronaldo.

It is still not known for certain when the former Real Madrid striker will be able to return although latest estimates suggest that Ronnie will be out for at least another month. 

The on-going saga has led to Ronaldo travelling to Brazil last week to obtain treatment from his own personal doctor. This caused controversy in Milan as it was subsequently revealed that the Milan medical team may have been giving El Fenomeno the wrong form of treatment. 

“For now we can do without Ronaldo. We do not have any doubts over the ability of Filippo Inzaghi and Alberto Gilardino. They are very capable of replacing Ronaldo, who will be useful in the Champions League,” Galliani said. 

“Furthermore we are waiting for Alexandre Pato who will arrive in January.” 

Milan currently have just three senior strikers on their books. Filippo Inzaghi has showed he is still capable of scoring at the highest level but having just turned 34, it remains to be seen how many games a season SuperPippo can play. 

Alberto Gilardino is presently going through a crisis in confidence in front of goal and the forward was roundly booed by the Rossoneri crowd during Milan’s last match with Fiorentina. Twenty-year-old rookie Willie Aubameyang is the only other alternative Carlo Ancelotti has at his disposal.


Again, that "filled in all positions" talk,.. rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 14 2007, 03:31 PM)
Again, that "filled in all positions" talk,.. rolleyes.gif
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Well yeah ... What did u expect him to say ?! Gilardino is sh1t, we are in a fix and if he doesn't shape up he will be shipped off rolleyes.gif

C'mon, most of the time, when executives talk like that, they mean to direct the talk to the players .. To boost their confidence. They wouldn't care less what we thought about it ... Well they do care, but it ain't like he is sucking up, if u know what I mean ..
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 14 2007, 01:54 PM)
Well yeah ... What did u expect him to say ?! Gilardino is sh1t, we are in a fix and if he doesn't shape up he will be shipped off rolleyes.gif

C'mon, most of the time, when executives talk like that, they mean to direct the talk to the players .. To boost their confidence. They wouldn't care less what we thought about it ... Well they do care, but it ain't like he is sucking up, if u know what I mean ..
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Some players (cough,..Gilardino,..cough) could "overboost" I fear,.. biggrin.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 14 2007, 04:08 PM)
Some players (cough,..Gilardino,..cough) could "overboost" I fear,.. biggrin.gif
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Well IMO, it is useless giving Gila all these chances that he just keeps on wasting. I mean, the effort of Kaka', Pirlo, Seedorf, heck teh whole team .. And Gila just manages to loose the ball.

If I knew any better, I would say he is a merda at heart!
Jack Sparrow
He's a penguin...he's said so many times.
misha
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 14 2007, 04:38 PM)
He's a penguin...he's said so many times.
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That would explain a lot
Jack Sparrow
Doesn't matter....Pippo was a penguin too.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 14 2007, 06:09 PM)
Doesn't matter....Pippo was a penguin too.
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For how long?
Jack Sparrow
1 year less than the time he's been with us. Still 4 years is a lot. I mean you'd think Kaka is been with us forever right?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 15 2007, 09:16 PM)
1 year less than the time he's been with us.
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That's in penguin years or .. biggrin.gif
dst
Ronaldo's injury! rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 21 2007, 06:15 PM)


No comment.
arivanjj
sleep.gif painful to watch...
Tennie
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, RONIE!

(from acmilan.com)
BUON COMPLEANNO RONIE!
22/09/2007
MILANO - Tanti auguri di buon compleanno a Ronaldo: il Fenomeno è nato il 22 settembre 1976 a Rio De Janeiro (Brasile) e oggi festeggia un'importante ricorrenza. Per lui, al Milan dal gennaio 2007, è il primo compleanno da milanista. A Ronie i più sinceri auguri da parte di Milan Channel, acMilan.com e da parte di tutti i rossoneri. Buon compleanno Ronie!
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