It so easy to blame Gila for our situation isn't it? I blame the management not Gila, Dida or Ba if those guys are failing it's their fault, they didn't find a real replacement for Sheva, Rui Costa and Stam. Instead of buying some real talent we signed the likes of Bonera, Oliveira and Oddo (who never was Milan quality and never will!)
Gila problem is the fact that he can't be our main stiker, the one who can lift the team when it's needed and the who can lead the attack single handed, he may be give everything he has, but some times it's just not enough. However, I'm convinced that if he find a complementary partner (like sheva) he'll be good again!

Gila's problem is that he has no individual qualities that can help us. Im not talking about the goals , just his lack of ... everything !

People tend to compare gila with inzaghi. but when inzaghi gets the ball outside the box , he at least tries to create something. Gila always bounces the ball right back cause he knows he cant go past the defending player , then he runs inside the box waiting to tap it in.

Every player (defender , midfielder , etc ...) got to have some individual class to earn him a spot in a team like Milan. A player has to bring some sort of value to the team , you cant depend on others and use it as an excuse for your poor performances.

Even an inbox striker should have some technical qualities . at least when you're playing for Milan.

That's not true, he has quatilies. Actually I'm convinced that he has a better overall technique than Pippo! He tried more than once to be usefull for the team by playing a role that he doesn't know, like and never knew before.

That I doubt , and in the end he's had soooooo many chances to prove me and all of us wrong.

Haha thanks...it was a pic i got on the net from an episode of The Simpsons which Ronaldo was on (he was wearing a Brazil uniform in the pic which i edited originally tho)
I used paint on the computer and made it an Ac one!

I think the time of the episode release was around the time Milan were negotiating for him (too bad he wasn't an offical Milan player as yet, i wouldn't have had to edit it on my own) *Bcuz he was in real madrid uniform in the episode as well*

Ohh well!

3 seasons and he hasn't done a third of what us fans have expected of him.

As Tennie said, the shirt is just too heavy for him. And this is so common, many players who come to play at the big clubs fail to live up to expectation.

I persist, for me Gila has more technique and is more complete than Pippo. Does it mean that he's Milan quality? No. Does it mean that he can take mentally? No. Does it mean that he had good time at Milan? No.
But what I think is that he could be a very good and useful sub, and a good starter if we find a good partner for him, the question is, will he accept to be a bench player, until that partner comes or mature (Pato)? I don't think so.

Well, you guessed right, mate. Good on you! Pakistan it is. I like cricket, that guy alongside Bush was our own version of Bush (known here as President Musharraf). The second picture was of a 7-star hotel and landmark under construction here in Islamabad. The third was my national cricket team against the Aussies. And finally the donkey cart picture could very well be from one of our remote towns. But it was all good for a laugh. Or two.

Having said that, it feels nice to see such a diverse fanbase for our club. It's all over the world, from Eskimos to the tropical beaches of Caribbean. Plus, even better that we have members from the four corners of the planet. There have been some great members who've signed up since the registrations were re-opened, and TriniKing_CE you're one of the best!


Thanks, Blue. I didn't quite want to put these images in Gila's official player thread, but couldn't resist.


Jack, Jack. Lara was quite a player, wasn't he? Quite a worthy contender for your "Pirate of the Caribbean" title, huh?


Well to be honest the only thing I don't like about India is the explosive population growth. I mean, it's a good thing they run all those birth control and family planning ads over there, otherwise we could very well be looking at 2 billion people by 2050. Or even before. With the same (or shrinking) resources that could be quite a mouthful.

Lol, I remember that episode, Trin. Downright hilarious stuff!

Thanks for the info concerning all the pics, the sad part is i have heard ur president's name b4 just that i usually don't follow news all that much to have realised (dont feel bad tho i hardly even know all the current affairs in my own little island) not jus around the the globe. - LOL
And concerning ur other posts yess i too am glad to see the fanbase so wide globally! Also happy to know that u consider me one of the best 'new members'
Lets see what else...yess Lara is quite a well know living legend - i proud hes from trini as well.
And last last but not least i have to say this is quite an intresting Gila Forum

It wasn't me...

The population is no longer a huge worry actually. Since now, even the politicians are sick of corruption, and believe they can squeeze more out of opening up the economy than pillaging the farmers.


Most importantly the widerspread viewing of news channels mean leaders now have to be mroe transparent. So all in all, India is doing relatively well. Another 20 years to really become developed though.

I actually never saw the entire episode - only a snipet on youtube
Then i came across a picture and I thaught to my self 'hey i can use this' - LOL

Again , im not talking about his goals. Just him and his football skills. Wheter he is playing alone or with a striking partner. Just leave his lack of goals aside for a bit.

Lets talk about technique. Maybe he is more techincal gifted then Pippo , but do you see any of it on the field ? When was the last time you saw Gila making a remarkable move ?? Why was he succesfull at Parma , cause every player was playing for him. Yes he scored 25 goals , but Parma also almost got relegated. At Milan we cant do that , every player has his duty. Wheter its defence , midfield or attack. At Milan he came for a lot of money , and that brings great responsibility too. I dont like booing players that play for Milan , but when I see Gila being started ever since sheva left , and he cant do anything right. NO pass , no free kick , no dribble , no shoot , nothing !! unless its presented to him like a pig with an apple in his mouth on a big plate. And then he expect admiration for it ? NO , you play at milan , the greatest club in the world and people are fed up for him to see him lacking basic skills and then blaming it on the rest.

He is a leach , cant perform without others helping him. And even when sometimes Milan was playing great , he was screwing it up too.

If an old Pippo can take his spot , if even an 18 yr old kid can bench him from the very first second he played ... that says a lot .

I'm not talking about his goals (to me more than half of them were lucky!), and I see your point when you say he's under performing, I agree with you but I don't think he's playing like a child because he's cr@p, skill-less or just not good for Milan. I think he's having a dab season because Milan are in trouble, not playing well and in desperate need of points ans a saviour. The thing is Gila is no saviour, he's not a leading striker you can count on when it comes to be decisive, he's mentally weak and can't stand the pressure. Does that make him a bad player? Of course not, he chokes under pressure and lose all his qualities but you can't say that he's not Milan worthy. As I said before, he could be a very good sub and with the right partner a good starter. If he accepts the bench and wants to fight then he's more than welcome, but if not he better goes away, that's what I trying to say because I'm more than convinced that in a good and healthy environment he can his old self again!

I've no doubt Gila would do well if he moved to another club. He's a decent player at times, but he hasn't done enough in the Milan jersey to warrent a stay in my opinion.

It's not the managements fault either - most were delighted when his arrival was announced, and hailed him as the 'missing piece' of the Milan jigsaw.

Football is a funny old game.

I'd loan him out to Sampdoria with a possible buy option. It would be really interesting to see him pair up with Cassano. My gut tells me it would be a great partnership.

Though of course...if we're down to UEFA cup...it might be tough to get good players...and I'd rather Gila than Saviola

If we could get Sheva back...and if he were not too injury prone..we could put back that combo again. It worked well.

Basically our current system, is built around Kaka as the attacking spearhead, with Gila proving a rather clumsy foil, whose job is to keep the defenders busy.

Either you can do it the mobil striker's way, which is to use technique and ditz around like a mosquito, or you can be like Gila and run head on into a wall.

He's not as sneaky as Inzaghi, and not as sharp as Paloschi. It's tough for him to be in a passing team, as opposed to a more physical team, which relies on him getting the ball.

He would do well at Inter with Zlatan. But then since that thought is unimaginable, he ought to go to Sampdoria with Cassano.

I actually agree with this notion. Loan him to a smaller club like Sampdoria or even Reggina, and maybe his stock will go up. If he has to go, I'd much rather have Gila net in a couple of millions for Milan, to make up as much of our original acquisition cost from Parma.. It's not like he can lose much value, the only way it can go is up.

No...but what do they have to do with Gilardino. In fact, he's the only player I'm 100% sure has to go. You know what's my criteria? I never, not even once, enjoyed seeing him play for us. This may sound naive, and maybe it is, I usually don't have such arguments, but in this case...IMO it's the truth. Every other player I once admired for his deeds at Milan, or still occasionally admire, or still feel at least somthing. With Alberto I'm cold and rational. I just want him out..

Even Brocchi?!?
*Confused* - LOL

Can't say I disagree with you. with the exception of a few games, like the brace he scored against the Viola, he never really was an exciting player. I'm glad to see Carlo's finally given up on him!

Gila is a lose-lose situation for us really.

We either keep him, and he doesn't perform and he's clearly unhappy here. Or we sell him, he does very well elsewhere and it will look like Milan made a mistake selling him and that we have no clue when it comes to developing young players, which we don't, in my opinion.

How can you be sure that Gila will do well in another big club!?

Gila was 23 when he came that's not young.

We don't know how to develop young players cause it's not what we do.

off the top of my head, Maldini


Then maybe Kaka' .. though he was brilliant before he came, still he came to us when he was younger than Gilardino.

I think it's just that the shirt is too heavy for him, maybe at Parma or Fiorentina, he could be good again.

Big club? I never said he'd do well at a big club, just another club. 23 is young to me anyways.

Maldini is God... he developed himself!

Of course there are some young players Milan have developed over the years but it's not what we do, we buy players that are already developed or, as with Kaka, players that have shown they have "found their way".


No you did not but what I meant that I do not care if he does well for a smaller club. If he went to Juventus (for example) and he did well then I'd regret it but if for Fiorentina then I'd be happy for him!

23 is young but also developed... of course there's always room for improvement but it's not a critical age by any means...

It's too early to say this, but Pato and Palo too. I'm certain about Pato's success.. but Paloschi needs to play more than this.

It's obvious we're no Arsenal or Barca, but we are 'good enough' in developing young players. if Gila failed it's because of the reason many have mentioned before: he's not meant for a big club. he's mentally weak.

Well, yes obviously that is how the club has been for so long now ... But when Gilardino came in, he was top scorer for two years running, hence he was supposed to be a reliable goal scorer.

Oh yes .. It's common knowledge Zd

Gilardino just isn't meant to play for a big club .. maybe an average club.

Pato is a revelation ... I mean to score on his debut and to adapt to Milan's rhythm and style of play, then to assert himself as a first team player ... Not many players can do that. (Not even Kaka' )

Gila needs to leave Milan as much as Milan needs him to leave I think he already realized that he has no future here.

I think he would be perfect for the Viola and vice versa. Fiorentina are not an average club, but they're nowhere near a big club like Milan either.


Some would argue about the last part, but I agree with you.

Don't forget that Pato had 6 months to adapt to the city, team, style of play ... etc.
I really think he's a phenomenon though

About young players: what about Paloschi? He's the one who's surprised me most. We were all expecting Pato to do great things what with all the hype. The teenager from the Primavera...nobody saw that one coming.

That's very true, for me he's he big surprise of the season, I just hope he doesn't stop there and develop to a great Serie A striker

Nevertheless, it's not easy wearing a Milan shirt. Gilardino took 3 seasons and he still is cr@p. Pato, from day one showed what he could do off the ball, on the ball, and showed his prowess by scoring on his Serie A debut ... Moreover, the friendly at Kiev, Pato was 10x the player Gila was on the pitch.

Before Paloschi who was the last Primavera player to break through in similar fashion?

Its been a while right

First season in Milan.

Gila: Games 31, goals 17.
Pato: Games 15, goals 8.

Gila had a better first season than Pato. Not only that, he was consistantly good over the whole season! Even if Pato had this kind of record over a full season, it'd still be worse than Gila's. I think people will critisice for no reason sometimes.

Gila also had a record is pretty much a goal every other game last season in the league, so I think people are being a little unfair. This is his only bad season in Milan. But when you look at the form of our midfield, what the heck else do you expect?

No reason ?

Gilardino played the most this season ... and what has he got to show for it ?


Gilardino's first season at Milan .. he came with Serie A experience, with 2 seasons as capacionare crown and the whole Milan community know that Gilardino would be the next MVB or something ..

Pato came to Milan and everyone was pmsing about the pressure he was put under ... Bottom line is, Pato is only 18 yrs old and in his first season at a HUGE club like Milan, scoring 8 goals in less than 15 outings ... I mean that is just a phenomeno in the making !

No, not for no reason Kurt. You just want to defend Gilardino, by all means, I wasn't directing anything at you. But don't accuse me for not having a reason! My reasons are clear, as those who have followed Gilardino at Parma and later on at Milan, can clearly see he is not even close to Milan quality.

So his first two seasons were what, flukes?

What form ? Last season, Milan lifted the CL .. What did Gilardino do to help ?! Our midfield was in blistering form ... And where was Gilardino ?!


Only when a certain Ronaldo came that Milan got back in 4th place and only with a 34 yr old vert did Milan win the CL. Where does Gilardino fit in here ?!

U keep pointing towards the stats ... Have u even seen the first season ?!

Gila finished our top scorer whether you like it or not. He had a record of around 1 goal every other game, which was good and not too far off Ronaldo's goal scoring record in terms of goals per game, so it wasn't that bad.

Midfield form? Rino was okay last year, Seedorf never turned up in the league and Pirlo was terrible.

Pato: 8 / 15 = 0.53
Gila: 17 / 34 = 0.5


Gila came as one of Serie A's best strikers who had played in Serie A for couple of years and had scored a lot of goals. Pato came as an 17-18yo boy who had barely played one season as a pro.

There's no way you can compare their performances. Pato has done very better.

Yes, I have. Have you?

And ultimately, what counts in football? Stats or performances? Do you win the leagues and cups on how well you play or how many goals you score and how many points you win?



And you believe wiki?

It was actually 28 starts and 3 sub appearances.

And who cares about age or whatever? You are decided a flop or not on your price. They both came at a very similar price and ha a very similar first season, so..

Anyways, some people on here see what they want to see I suppose. Pato is amazing, Milan are the number 1 club in the World, clearly.

He did at Parma .. he was capacionare for two season ... I am not saying no


What I am saying is he sucks in Milan ! He is cr@p ! Broochi is more useful than him.


Comapring Ronaldo to Gilardino is anti-football, it is against all the laws of reason and it is an insult to the phenomenon himself (Had you witnessed Ronaldo at his best, you wouldnt even draw such a comparison)

Milan's midfield was in blistering form ! In Serie A, Pirlo and Gattuso were brilliant as well as they were in the CL.

Ok well, tell me ... How many goals did Gilardino score that were decisive ? How many games did it take Gilardino to score his first goal for Milan ? and how long did it take for Gilardino to score in the CL ?

I believe acmilan.com - Alberto Gilardino

And Kurt, accept most of Gila's goals in his first season came when Milan were leading by two or three goals. they were not really crucial.. Pato has scored the first goal(s) against Fiorentina, Genoa, Torino, Empoli and Catania...

Ronaldo at his best? Why does that even matter, he wasn't playing for Milan at his best.

Er, no they weren't. They kept using the excuse that they had no break - because of the World Cup - as the reason why they were playing poorly.



He has scored decisive goals, people like to forget them though. He's even scored decisive goals this season. People tend to forget our two 1-0 wins in which he was the only scorer. But of course, the only goals people care about when it comes to Gila are important goals against the big teams. So unless he scores the winner against Juve, Inter, Roma or Fiorentina, no-one cares.

Scoring in the CL? Some point in his 2nd season with us, like Pato will do?

I'd like to ask you something. R7, who do you blame for this poor season?

Gosh. It's been a while since you two had a fight.

I feel like I should get out my popcorn.


As for Gilardino, he's a good player but I just don't think Milan is the right fit for him. I think it'd be best for him and for Milan if he were to go to another club next year (my unrealistic hope being a trade with Fiorentina for Montolivo).

One thing at a time Kurt ... Answer me this, since you've seen his first season ..



Then we can move on to discuss anything you want

You expect me to be able to remember every one of Gila's goals, who it was against and whether it was decisive or not? Nah, you're okay, and since when did I answer to you?