Don't forget that Pato had 6 months to adapt to the city, team, style of play ... etc.
I really think he's a phenomenon though (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

About young players: what about Paloschi? He's the one who's surprised me most. We were all expecting Pato to do great things what with all the hype. The teenager from the Primavera...nobody saw that one coming.

That's very true, for me he's he big surprise of the season, I just hope he doesn't stop there and develop to a great Serie A striker (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nevertheless, it's not easy wearing a Milan shirt. Gilardino took 3 seasons and he still is cr@p. Pato, from day one showed what he could do off the ball, on the ball, and showed his prowess by scoring on his Serie A debut ... Moreover, the friendly at Kiev, Pato was 10x the player Gila was on the pitch.

Before Paloschi who was the last Primavera player to break through in similar fashion?

Its been a while right

First season in Milan.

Gila: Games 31, goals 17.
Pato: Games 15, goals 8.

Gila had a better first season than Pato. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Not only that, he was consistantly good over the whole season! Even if Pato had this kind of record over a full season, it'd still be worse than Gila's. I think people will critisice for no reason sometimes. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Gila also had a record is pretty much a goal every other game last season in the league, so I think people are being a little unfair. This is his only bad season in Milan. But when you look at the form of our midfield, what the heck else do you expect? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Apr 26 2008, 06:32 PM

No reason ?

Gilardino played the most this season ... and what has he got to show for it ?


Gilardino's first season at Milan .. he came with Serie A experience, with 2 seasons as capacionare crown and the whole Milan community know that Gilardino would be the next MVB or something ..

Pato came to Milan and everyone was pmsing about the pressure he was put under ... Bottom line is, Pato is only 18 yrs old and in his first season at a HUGE club like Milan, scoring 8 goals in less than 15 outings ... I mean that is just a phenomeno in the making !

No, not for no reason Kurt. You just want to defend Gilardino, by all means, I wasn't directing anything at you. But don't accuse me for not having a reason! My reasons are clear, as those who have followed Gilardino at Parma and later on at Milan, can clearly see he is not even close to Milan quality.

So his first two seasons were what, flukes?

What form ? Last season, Milan lifted the CL .. What did Gilardino do to help ?! Our midfield was in blistering form ... And where was Gilardino ?!


Only when a certain Ronaldo came that Milan got back in 4th place and only with a 34 yr old vert did Milan win the CL. Where does Gilardino fit in here ?!

U keep pointing towards the stats ... Have u even seen the first season ?!

Gila finished our top scorer whether you like it or not. He had a record of around 1 goal every other game, which was good and not too far off Ronaldo's goal scoring record in terms of goals per game, so it wasn't that bad.

Midfield form? Rino was okay last year, Seedorf never turned up in the league and Pirlo was terrible.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Pato: 8 / 15 = 0.53
Gila: 17 / 34 = 0.5


Gila came as one of Serie A's best strikers who had played in Serie A for couple of years and had scored a lot of goals. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Pato came as an 17-18yo boy who had barely played one season as a pro. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

There's no way you can compare their performances. Pato has done very better.

This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: Apr 26 2008, 06:48 PM

Yes, I have. Have you?

And ultimately, what counts in football? Stats or performances? Do you win the leagues and cups on how well you play or how many goals you score and how many points you win?



And you believe wiki? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

It was actually 28 starts and 3 sub appearances.

And who cares about age or whatever? You are decided a flop or not on your price. They both came at a very similar price and ha a very similar first season, so..

Anyways, some people on here see what they want to see I suppose. Pato is amazing, Milan are the number 1 club in the World, clearly.

He did at Parma .. he was capacionare for two season ... I am not saying no (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


What I am saying is he sucks in Milan ! He is cr@p ! Broochi is more useful than him.


Comapring Ronaldo to Gilardino is anti-football, it is against all the laws of reason and it is an insult to the phenomenon himself (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (Had you witnessed Ronaldo at his best, you wouldnt even draw such a comparison)

Milan's midfield was in blistering form ! In Serie A, Pirlo and Gattuso were brilliant as well as they were in the CL.

Ok well, tell me ... How many goals did Gilardino score that were decisive ? How many games did it take Gilardino to score his first goal for Milan ? and how long did it take for Gilardino to score in the CL ?