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Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 4 2007, 09:58 PM)
I know what you're trying to say. But I keep saying that his scoring record is very good. Better than Weah in his first two years, better than Pippo in his first two years. But they both had striker partenrs, Gila just doesn't, which is making him look bad.

We all know Kaka's the exception that proves thw rule, he's just something else.  cool.gif
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OOooh stop it please. Now, don't get me wrong, a good partner is really something that can mean much (like Cole-Yorke). But still,...This is rediculous! Why would we search for a partner that suits Gila? Should I start now worry cause Gila does not have a partner? Naah,..

Year one, I told my self, shame on me, I'd expected too much. Year two I said, ahh shame on Sheva, he left Gila under real pressure. But from now on, IMO, Gila should be the ashamed one. If this season don't works, then I must say - it does not look him bad, he is bad. And I don't give much attention to the statistics. I give advantage to my eyes. I watch this guy on and on playing, but never, not once I the whole last season in an impertant match I said to myself thank God Gila is here. I said it for Dida, Nesta, Maldini, Rino, Ambro, Kaka, Pippo, Seedorf, Janku, even Oddo. But not once for Gilardino. And that's what counts most.

Sure, Alberto Gilardino is not a striker like Luca Saudati. He much above that level. Sure, in some segments he is very good, maybe even brilliant. But, don't miss the big picture - and the big picture.

Let's look at this stats:

Weah (1995-1997) 25 goals in 54 apps.
Inzaghi (2001-2003) 36 goals in 68 apps.
Gilardino (2005-2007) 29 goals in 64 apps.

Well, that's not better then George or Pippo.

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Weah was a proven striker in europe that use to score in big games too. The guy won the best european and best world striker awards. Gila scored just two goals in two seasons in the CL (both of them unimportant of course). Any comparison between him and Gila is just wrong.

If you want to compare players, do it when they are were in the same age. At 25 in Juve (a big club almost the same as Milan  ) Pippo was considered one of the most lethal strikres in the world scoring many goals both in serie a and CL. When he moved to Milan he was unlucky and had several big injuries. He didn't played half season in his first year in Milan so this statistic is useless considering how many games he played in these first two seasons. But when he was fully fit he was lethal (just remember the 2002-03 CL campaign. 12 goals in 16 games  ). The guy is the best Italian goalscorer in the european competitions ever and you can alway count on him when you have an important game (even at 34  ).

The point is: at Gila's age these guys were at peak. Nobody questioned them and they were scoring as much on the biggest stage - the CL, while Gila's pants is wet the minute he's hearing the words 'Champions League'. Any comparison between them and him is offensive for them.

We just keep making excuses for him. Midfield that we have is a dream for any striker. Milan can't afford to have someone just for the situations when we play with two strikers (and even then he may fail), especially when he's the one who was supposed to be our main striker. If he only can play with a partner then it's a disabillity. Sure he scored 17 goals in the league but it was mainly because of Sheva. Since Sheva left he just can't handle mentally with the 'to be the main striker' pressure and we can all see the results on the field. Plus you can't count on him at in the CL. Again, a team like Milan can't afford all this.

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Jack Sparrow
Poor poor Gila. I really like him. He's been cr@p, but he's such a nice guy. And he's got such a pretty girlfriend.

I wish Porty would sign a petition saying, Gila we have complete faith in you, but if you don't shape up, you'll be shipped out.


Maybe I should change my sig to something more polite.
Bluesummers
Allright all you gila defenders. When ronaldo gets back to form we'll see if gila can score. I say we ship him out in january and bring in huntelaar quickly.
armiss
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 5 2007, 02:29 AM)
Weah was a proven striker in europe that use to score in big games too. The guy won the best european and best world striker awards. Gila scored just two goals in two seasons in the CL (both of them unimportant of course). Any comparison between him and Gila is just wrong.

If you want to compare players, do it when they are were in the same age. At 25 in Juve (a big club almost the same as Milan wink.gif ) Pippo was considered one of the most lethal strikres in the world scoring many goals both in serie a and CL. When he moved to Milan he was unlucky and had several big injuries. He didn't played half season in his first year in Milan so this statistic is useless considering how many games he played in these first two seasons. But when he was fully fit he was lethal (just remember the 2002-03 CL campaign. 12 goals in 16 games  king.gif  king.gif ). The guy is the best Italian goalscorer in the european competitions ever and you can alway count on him when you have an important game (even at 34 king.gif ).

The point is: at Gila's age these guys were at peak. Nobody questioned them and they were scoring as much on the biggest stage - the CL, while Gila's pants is wet the minute he's hearing the words 'Champions League'. Any comparison between them and him is offensive for them.

We just keep making excuses for him. Midfield that we have is a dream for any striker. Milan can't afford to have someone just for the situations when we play with two strikers (and even then he may fail), especially when he's the one who was supposed to be our main striker. If he only can play with a partner then it's a disabillity. Sure he scored 17 goals in the league but it was mainly because of Sheva. Since Sheva left he just can't handle mentally with the 'to be the main striker' pressure and we can all see the results on the field. Plus you can't count on him at in the CL. Again, a team like Milan can't afford all this.
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kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 4 2007, 09:59 PM)
Sure he scored 17 goals in the league but it was mainly because of Sheva. Since Sheva left he just can't handle mentally with the 'to be the main striker' pressure and we can all see the results on the field. Plus you can't count on him at in the CL. Again, a team like Milan can't afford all this.
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This is my last comment on the matter, it's getting old.

Yes, he scored 17 goals with Sheva. In my opinion Gila is a second striker, expecting him to be a guy that's going to get 25 goals is silly, that's not him. You're expecting him to replace Sheva's goals! That's like expecting Bonera to come in and play like Nesta, it's just something that's not going to happen. He is a number 2 striker, and that's what he was bought as.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 5 2007, 03:31 PM)
This is my last comment on the matter, it's getting old.

Yes, he scored 17 goals with Sheva. In my opinion Gila is a second striker, expecting him to be a guy that's going to get 25 goals is silly, that's not him. You're expecting him to replace Sheva's goals! That's like expecting Bonera to come in and play like Nesta, it's just something that's not going to happen. He is a number 2 striker, and that's what he was bought as.
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I would be glad to say that I agree with you on that. But I don't. Nobody here expects Gilardino to be Sheva. But we do expect much more of him. I think he is pretty expensive for a £18m transfer. If we follow the same logic, then Pippo also was No.2 striker. At a moment Sheva too. But we expected more, and that's what we got. With Gila, I'm not sure we're gonna get that "more" part...
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 5 2007, 05:31 PM)
This is my last comment on the matter, it's getting old.

Yes, he scored 17 goals with Sheva. In my opinion Gila is a second striker, expecting him to be a guy that's going to get 25 goals is silly, that's not him. You're expecting him to replace Sheva's goals! That's like expecting Bonera to come in and play like Nesta, it's just something that's not going to happen. He is a number 2 striker, and that's what he was bought as.
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Exactly what Fillipo said.

Nobody expecting him to be a Sheva's heir. We just want a good, reliable striker that you can count on. And when I say count, I mean not only likes of Reggina but also 'big' teams and CL.

I have nothing against him personally, and I would be very glad if he can finally put his issues behind him. He has the big stage to prove that he's woth it ,and he got big credit from Carlo (that I don't think he would have get in other big teams), but he's not gonna get it for ever.
Ry4n
Gila will come through for us its just the start of the season he'll score next match smile.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Sep 8 2007, 04:25 PM)
Gila will come through for us its just the start of the season he'll score next match smile.gif
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Yeah, we'll see...
Bluesummers
unfortunately, the only thing gila is scoring is his girlfriend and not a football.
misha
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Gilardino Not Thinking About Exit

Alberto Gilardino has insisted that he will not be driven out of the club by the 'boo-boys'.

Alberto Gilardino has come under much pressure once again this season after failing to find the net often enough.

There has been plenty of criticism directed at the player since the draw against Fiorentina, and though he scored during the 2-2 draw with Dinamo Kiev, the pressure continues unabated.

With Ronaldo likely to make his return very soon, and 'Pippo' Inzaghi doing far better as well, he has been linked with an exit from the club.

However, the former Parma man is keen on staying put, and calm about his future.

"Yesterday, I spoke with president Silvio Berlusconi and Adriano Galliani," he said on Friday evening. 

"Both have reassured me that my future is at Milan, so I can be calm.

"I will try to always give everything on the field and hope to have a little more luck in front of goal."
Rossoneri7
What u need is more than luck rolleyes.gif

U need something called concentration you dumb f2ck
KillerMax
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 9 2007, 01:43 PM)
What u need is more than luck rolleyes.gif

U need something called concentration you dumb f2ck
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AND determination. Remember Marco Simone? There could be a friggin bomb exploding next to him and he would still be concentrated on the job. That's determination. Determined to do whatever it takes to find the back of the net.
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 10 2007, 02:41 AM)
Determined to do whatever it takes to find the back of the net.
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You think slashing his way through the opposition's defence with a katana is among those things Gila could do!?? It would help him... a lot!
KillerMax
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 9 2007, 05:50 PM)
You think slashing his way through the opposition's defence with a katana is among those things Gila could do!?? It would help him... a lot!
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Well, he sure as hell can't dribble past them.
Jack Sparrow
Grrr....let him who has not sinned cast the first stone... realmad.gif

Gila forever!!!
Ry4n
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 8 2007, 10:39 PM)
Yeah, we'll see...
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At the moment everyone is doubting him we all know what happens when people doubt , Gila will come through this stronger

FORZA GILARDINO devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 10 2007, 12:41 AM)
AND determination. Remember Marco Simone? There could be a friggin bomb exploding next to him and he would still be concentrated on the job. That's determination. Determined to do whatever it takes to find the back of the net.
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Marco,... wub.gif
jefri91
If he doesnt prove himself and December passes. Then that's it for me, no more Gila
Fillipo Simone
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Bonera: Gilardino Will Come Good

Daniele Bonera followed Alberto Gilardino from Parma to the San Siro at the start of last season and has in many ways eclipsed his young mentor by retaining good form heading into the 2007-08 season. The stopper, though, insists that Gilardino is still good enough, and will return to his very best...

Daniele Bonera has leapt to the defence of embattled teammate, striker Alberto Gilardino.

The AC hitman has come in for criticism after an array of poor showings that have even seen him fall out of Azzurri contention.

For defender Bonera, though, this is a minor setback.

"Alberto was excellent against [Dynamo] Kiev," he said, looking back to AC Milan's recent friendly win in Ukraine.

"He just needs to keep going down that path.

"So many people focus on his lack of goals, but he was excellent against Fiorentina, and needs credit for his unselfish teamwork."

Gilardino remains among the first-choice strikers at the San Siro; with Ronaldo injured and Pato ineligible, scope for coach Carlo Ancelotti to ring the changes is limited.

Bonera, though, thinks that the coach can still get the best out of his player.

"Ancelotti knows how to deal with this situation; last year, he did a great job of squad rotation and he knows how to handle his squad," concluded Daniele.

Bonera arrived at the San Siro from Parma in 2006 and, after a slow start, has established himself as a regular in the rossoneri lineup. The 26 year old is an Italian international.

So, too, is Gilardino. However, he was left out of the last squad, the 25 year old hitman failing to add to his 23 cap tally. He, too, joined Milan from Parma, back in 2005.
dst
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Maldini keeps Gila faith
Thursday 13 September, 2007

Milan captain Paolo Maldini has joined teammate Daniele Bonera in offering his support for stuttering striker Alberto Gilardino.

Gilardino emerged as a prolific hitman after arriving at Parma from Verona. Between 2003 and 2005 he became a talismanic figure for the Crociati as he hit 23 goals in two consecutive campaigns.

His eye for goal netted him a move to Milan worth around £18m in July 2005, but since scoring 17 times in his first term at the San Siro, he has looked ill at ease in the Rossoner’s jersey.

After suffering jeering from the Diavolo faithful this season, Gila did find the net in a friendly against Dynamo Kiev.

Now he needs to come to life and Maldini has joined fellow stopper Bonera in tipping Alberto for a renaissance.

“We are all firmly behind him because he is a striker with unique characteristics,” he told Sky Sports Italia.

“He should relax in the knowledge that he has complete support from the whole team and the club’s staff.”

Maldini also took time to compliment the signing of Brazilian starlet Alexandre Pato, who will arrive in Milan in January to challenge Gila for a place.

“He is a very important investment as he is one of the most talented players in Brazil,” the 39-year-old claimed.

“There may be a desire to bring in more players in January, but at the moment it’s tough to get top-class players from big sides.

"The secret to Milan’s success is encouraging growth from young players.”


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Everyone: Shhh! sleep.gif
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 13 2007, 07:47 PM)
Everyone: Shhh! sleep.gif
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EXACTLY what I was thinking you would say when I read this on football Italia
Rossoneri7
When this guy speaks, it's like 'you see the light' biggrin.gif
sansiro1708
he needs to get up soon ...i no he will but he must step it up cuz in january pato is going to be able to play ...so gila is going to have more competion ...
anano1214
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papa gila 
Alberto Gilardino sara' papa' a primavera. La compagna Alice Bregoli ha superato i tre mesi di gravidanza e il lieto evento è atteso per il marzo 2008. Massima riservatezza da parte dell'attaccante del Milan e della fidanzata, fresca dottoressa in Economia e Commercio e alle prese in questi giorni con il trasloco. Da un appartamento piu' piccolo e uno piu' grande, non un caso visto che la famiglia si allarghera' a breve. Gilardino va a far compagnia cosi' agli altri campioni del mondo in procinto di diventare padre. Gigi Buffon e Alena Seredova aspettano per Natale un maschietto che, stando agli ultimi orientamenti, potrebbe chiamarsi Pietro o Tomas. Stesso periodo di attesa per Alex Del Piero e Sonia Amoruso: in questo caso pero' non e' noto sapere il sesso del nascituro. I futuri genitori vogliono la sorpresa finale. Secondo bimbo in arrivo, invece, per Rino Gattuso. Sempre a dicembre, la moglie Monica dara' un fratellino alla piccola Gabriela, di tre anni. Arrivera' Francesco. Auguri a tutti!
Tennie
Wow, they're all spawning at once.

(For those who don't read Italian, the article says that Gila and Alice are expecting a baby in the spring. Other fathers-to-be are Buffon, Del Piero, and Gattuso.)
Jack Sparrow
In spring...so he's on pternity leave till then. tongue.gif
misha
So apparently Gila does have balls...
Tennie
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 20 2007, 12:17 PM)
So apparently Gila does have balls...
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Jack Sparrow
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So apparently Gila does have balls...


Burn...you're all picking on him!
misha
And we have a pretty good reason for it smile.gif Jack you are alone in this. Even han saw the light wink.gif
Jack Sparrow
kurt is with me. tongue.gif Right kurt?? unsure.gif
Tennie
Hey, I'll support Gila til my dying breath so long as he's wearing a Milan jersey.

It doesn't mean Misha's comment wasn't funny, though. smile.gif
Darunia
He better score today!

I think he will biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Darunia @ Sep 22 2007, 05:26 PM)
He better score today!

I think he will biggrin.gif
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I got the same feeling. The first time this season,..
Jack Sparrow
^^^

realmad.gif Oh so now everybody wants to be like Jack!! Yeesh!
Tennie
It's the eye makeup, Jack. Very hot. smile.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 22 2007, 05:52 AM)
kurt is with me. tongue.gif Right kurt?? unsure.gif
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Of course.

When he bags a hat-trick in the Milan derby, everybody else will be with us, too. smile.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 23 2007, 12:49 AM)
Of course.

When he bags a hat-trick in the Milan derby, everybody else will be with us, too.  smile.gif
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3? Do you remember when was the last time he scored 1 in the official match? biggrin.gif
Ry4n
AC Milan 63 (30)




The stats speak for them selves he may not be in form now , im sure he will be back in form in no time wink.gif
misha
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 23 2007, 01:25 AM)
3? Do you remember when was the last time he scored 1 in the official match?  biggrin.gif
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Anybody? I don't remember myself smile.gif
QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Sep 23 2007, 03:06 AM)
AC Milan           63 (30)

The stats speak for them selves he may not be in form now , im sure he will be back in form in no time  wink.gif
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Stats are not telling the whole story, to say the least.
Jack Sparrow
^^^ Why not...they work with Sheva tongue.gif

Second highest scorer for Milan...blah blah blah...wink.gif
Fillipo Simone
You know, stats can help someone but you must be careful not to manipulate with them. Gilardino's stats do say something, but the most important thing is what we all see,...

If we gonna tell statistical informations, let's point out the situations in which Gilardino scored crucial goals in big matches?! I bet there's enough situations the fingers of one hand.
We all should support Gilardino and hope he'll do something from time to time, but the big picture tells me he is not Milan quality. It seems we use to have double criteria. When we mention Ballack, C. Ronaldo, Drogba, Eto'o, Di Natale or whoever we (me included) are on the verge to say they are not Milan quality. But the players we really can judge are the players who already play for us. It is obvious that Brocchi is not Milan quality, never will be and never will be a persona of any use for us. Not while we play, not while we rest, even not when we have vacation. No use of him. The same cannot be applied to Giladino. But I'll have to say it: I belive he is not Milan quality, maybe he was, but right now he is not. And this "right now" is a longer period with thick history and great future. He is the only Milan player (do put aside Brocchi and the others of the useless..) that tortures me while I watch. Only he makes me feel a certain pain, and it makes me tired. He makes me feel sick.

Sure, I could feel sick about Javi Moreno or Brocchi, but first of all I did not expect that much of them and second I did not have to watch them for such a long time. You know, the statistics are telling us Gilardino is positive, but this is a illusion. In a Inter team, which is sadly maybe the strongest in Italy (results) Gilardino would not have done the same, cause of the concurention. Do you thing they would stick with him, and more important do you think Gila would have a chance to show his value and score besides Crespo, Ibra, Cruz, Suazo even Adriano? He would get 20 or 15 last minutes maybe and than he would have to score the same thing he does not score in 90 of our minutes.

So I'm gonna say it once more, yes we'll have to support Gilardino, but I think he had his chances and did not impress. He is sometimes useful, but mostly useless. That's why I'll say: the Milan-quality ticket expired for Gilardino. Let's move on.
misha
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 23 2007, 07:18 AM)
^^^ Why not...they work with Sheva tongue.gif

Second highest scorer for Milan...blah blah blah...wink.gif
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Because Sheva's stats are so overwhelming, you just can ignore them. And don't you ever put them both in the same sentence biggrin.gif

on more serious note, we have discussed this so many times. I remember writing big post about him somewhere (must be in Gilardino the flop thread smile.gif ). Like Fellipo said you can support him and believe in him, but you gotta admit he just not Milan quality (if not, you are in denial). BTW why people forgetting his european stats ? 2 goals in 23 games.
kurtsimonw
Gila: Games without a goal: ZERO cool.gif
weeeow
joker Gilardino!! king.gif
Bluesummers
If kaka does the support job properly, there might be hope for gila. He just needs to reduce the diving down and he should do fine with the help of kaka giving him magical balls.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 7 2007, 03:09 PM)
If kaka does the support job properly, there might be hope for gila.  He just needs to reduce the diving down and he should do fine with the help of kaka giving him magical balls.
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Oh he sure does like Kaka's shiny magical balls...
Tennie
Interesting news.

Donadoni has called up Gilardino for the friendly this Wednesday against South Africa. (The game is in Siena).
KillerMax
So you score two goals and you're back in the NT? That's not the best descion IMO. Gila needs to work harder and prove himself in a consistent manner, like Toni.
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